but i did not look into fbi a.c.s. system without authorization.ot mismanage or mishandle any classified information. >> pelley: you pled guilty to that. >> prouty: that is correct. >> pelley: why would you do that if it wasn't true? >> prouty: i had to make a decision. i could not see our limited financial resources disappear in front of our own eyes. >> pelley: from attorney's fees? >> prouty: from attorney's fees that amounted in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> pelley: but pleading guilty wouldn't be the end of it. prosecutors didn't have the evidence to make a terrorism case in court, so they made one in the media. in a november 2007 press release, the prosecutors said, "it's hard to imagine a greater threat" than someone like nada prouty. they said she had "exploited her access to sensitive counter- terrorism intelligence." and, later, the detroit office boasted that it had uncovered "the only known case of an illegal alien infiltrating u.s. intelligence agencies with potential espionage implications," as if nada prouty had plotted fr

>>ou've worked as an fbi -- >> all the time. task forces acrosshe country. >> you probably cannot tell me which ones are union or not union? >> someare. some aren't. >> you could probably tell me would are the best officers. >> sure. >> it's irrelevant if they belonged to a bargaining union or not because that nevernters thediscussion. >> that's fair. >> i apologize. i had no interest in talng about is issue. again, as a mayor who managed public safety officers, i can tell you, again, tir nber one goal is to keep t public fe >> right. >> period. so j take little exception to the debate that just went on. lete get to ver specific alaskanssues i i can and as we talked about and one of them wa the whole issue of the twic cards and how the transportation issue, we talked a little about that. i want to make sure whave this comfort on thecord. that is the complication for people in ruralska to get those -- tha next stephere they have to get tard personally delivered to them which in some cases could be very expensive to fly to go to t

iturns out they were actively conspiringith the fbi not nearlyas effec. but they don't have as a resul of that the actual requisite connection to terrorist groups said they areort of out of bounds. so the criminal justice system has broad reach in some cases it is what you're going to need to se third inctives for cooperation, the criminal-justice system has mor reliable and developed mechanisms to help encourage cooperation to get information and intelligence rom somebody in exchange for changes to the conditns are the duratioof coinement. military commissns have borrowed the plea and sentencng agreement mechanism for the urt-martial senteed 105, and i think this y over tim witht and grows on a pretty good mecnisms but right now it really hasn't been tested and this is a market system esseially. the supreme court has talked about in that way and th kind of systems don't grow up over night. sentencing. i talked about this beore. in federal court judges impose sentencing based in large part on the sentencing guidelines and the military commissions seencing

the fbi says it is not a common thing. but in the case of a very notorious and very well-known public figure like kennedy, they obviously took a special steps to make sure that the family got at least some say. because the issue here is not the privacy of ted kennedy. he is obviously gone. it is the argument that could be made that things in their could somehow embarrass the family member's better still living. but apparently as i said, from what i understand, from rep of the kennedy family, they did not raise objections on privacy. there were others mentioned in the file that held up. host: his personal life -- anything to say there? guest: there is a lot of stuff in there about sort of rumors, unsubstantiated reports about everything from sex parties to plot by the mafia to kill ted kennedy as well as his other two brothers. yes, obviously there are some things more on the sensational side. the fbi insists that those reports were never cooperated. the whenever followed up on. but certainly conspiracy theorists and others

law enforcement, i.c.e., fbi, and nypd. finally, we have for law- enforcement -- foreign law enforcement partners. they have all travel great distances to be here today. we all know we really want to make a lasting impact. if we really want to make a difference, we will have to work hand in hand with our private sector partners. through combined efforts, we can most effectively and successfully combat not only i.p. theft, but also the organized criminal organizations that feed off those proceeds. in closing, and i do not want to take a lot of your time, i want to thank you for coming here. i want to point out two things i think you hear during the presentations. terrorist organizations are similar to any other organization. they need to earn money. way out. i.p. theft is often one of the avenues. in addition, without a partnership, -- i want to thank you all for coming to the ipr center. thank you for your partnership, not only with i.c.e., but with all of us at the ipr center. together we can make a difference. i think you

part of th move was because of the pressure from the fbi.there were agents trying to make the case against him and a variety of reasons itdidn't happen that one of them was political pressure from the muslim advocate groups in the united states. i know at that time there was concer political pressures essentially the idea thatthey are conducting an antimuslim reddi-wip taunt and to arrest this imam that would fuel so that is why he got away in part. under the pressure he moves to the u.k. and gets under way with his speaking as it were and most of these are of course online. some of them are private conferences and groups and some of them stay on youtube and remain public indefinitely. so, his talks after he becomes the imam his talks start to -- he finds he market in northern virginia and he finds an audience and this is a time collecting audiotapes was a big deal. all of the young men from the muslim community are clecting the latest tapes from this scholar, that scholar who gave the talks there is a buzz about that emergence and he's a ve

the fbi field officers and communities of every ethnic background. other components of doj are also engaged in out rich opportunity to the arab-american community -- outreach opportunity to the out-american community. -- arab-american community. the office of justice programs have sponsored events that emphasize community engagement, and u.s. attorneys across the country are actively engaging arrant and muslim communities to -- arab and muslim communities to act on the challenges facing them together. this is only a snapshot of our effort. you're working constantly to improve them and build stronger relationships -- we are working constantly to improve them and build stronger relationships with communities that we serve. i launched an advisory group with the goal of protecting our common security of preserving the values that we all share, the same values and patriotism and adc's worked inspired countless arab americans. it was a muslim-american man that first alerted police to a smoking car in times square. [applause] and the vigilance of that man t

he served as the first deputy director of the fbi national security division. he is a former national intelligence officer and join them as an analyst working in southeast asia. he has served in the white house in policy-making positions and has served on the national service -- national intelligence council for southeast asia which, at the time, was a primary focus for counter- terrorism issues. we are delighted to have a dear friend, someone i have spent an awful lot of time with in places much less friendly than washington, d.c., overseas grappling with these issues. bill will speak for about 40 minutes. -- phil will speak for 40 minutes. we will open that up for questions and answers. we believe in dialogue. critical set of issues. without further review, thank you for joining us and i look forward to it. [applause] >> let's be clear here. i resigned from the government's three months ago. it is the first time roughly i have been out of the house before 11:00 a.m. it is the second time i have had a cup of coffee. if this is a bit slow, i will decaffeinated

part of this move was because of the pressure from the fbi. there were agents trying to make a case against him. and there was -- there were a variety of reasons this did not happen, but one of them was political pressure from muslim advocate groups in the united states. i know from certain people within he fbi at that time, at there was concern that political pressures, essentially the idea that there conducting an anti muslim witchhunt, and if they were to arrest this well-known imam, that would feel that. that was why he got away, in part. under this pressure, he moves to the u.k. and then really gets under way with this speaking tour, as it were. most of these are on line. some of them are linked privately to conferences and to groups and some of them are -- stay on youtube and remain public. his talks -- he finds this market in northern virginia and find an audience so that people -- all of the young man from the muslim community are vying to collect the latest tapes from discolored or that ssholar. there is a buzz about him. he is a very

when we come back, we'll get candice delong who has had a lot of cases in her life, former fbi profiler. i wonder if she has ever seen anything like this. don't go away. and if you named your own price on car insurance, you could be picking up this tab yourself. so get allstate. [ dennis ] dollar for dollar nobody protects you from mayhem like allstate. build a car you're proud of. ♪ of course, winning's not bad either. the subaru forester. the most award-winning small suv. isn't it nice when honest virtues win ? >> larry: anderson cooper stands by in new orleans. what's our lead, anderson? >> tonight is day 70 of the disaster. sixth week of our live coverage from louisiana. tropical storm alex could soon become hurricane alex potentially driving oil deeper ashore though the cap of the spill remains in place for now. a live update on that. also more word games from bp. the company's coo telling a local new orleans newspaper that knowing how much oil is gushing out of that well is irrelevant telling the government that bp adapts their plans as learn more about how much oil is pouring out

he established the klass kids foundation in 1994 to stop crimes against children and an fbi profiler.hat's your read? >> clearly the focus of the investigation is the stepmother. she's been given two polygraphs. they've searched her house. they've interrogated her for up to six hours several time. they've seized her truck twice. and they have also issued questionnaires to parents who have kids at the school and neighbors saying did you see this woman or this truck in the area on that particular day? she's not being called a suspect or a person of interest. i can also tell you that they have called off their search essentially and they have told people in the area we do not think although we can't say 100% sure we do not think it's a stranger abduction. you don't have to be worried for your kids. so that tells you a lot right there. >> larry: the father, marc, supports the stepmother, does he not? >> as i understand it, he does. let me clarify a couple things. first of all, it's a very rural community. it's a rural school. there are about 300 people at the school. what happened that da

in this case, it would be the joint task force, the fbis thing. -- fbi's thing. as you know, they have a great ability, but it is not good enough for what we need, and i think there were some statistics that came out last year that said the amount of money being made in cyberspace is equivalent to the drug trade, and when you think about that, you could say, "good news. the drug trade is down." i do not think that is true. [laughter] i think it is the opposite. putting it from a nations perspective, -- natin's perspective -- nation' s perspective, it is what will make up the future welfare of this nation, and we have got to protect it, so i think establishing those rules of the road in cyberspace is going to be key. i do not think that is the responsibility of cyber com of defense alone. -- or defense alone. you can come from any place in the world, bounce any place in the world, and attacked with impunity, and it is a huge issue. >> thank you, and good morning, general. congratulations. some have been working on attacks. do you see some issues with converting? a

counterterrorism strategy from cia and fbi officials. we get an insight on the terrorist threat against the u.s. and ways to use intelligence to combat. this is about one hour 20 minutes. >> good morning. let me welcome everyone to george washington university on this sunny, hot day. you are in for a 3 today. this is building on a serious we have had on intelligence officers to come to share their inflections upon their career. we had charlie allen last year to come after 50 years in the intelligence community, he certainly has a lot of insight and perspective to share with us. i might note that he is also recently retired and we are fortunate enough to consider him a senior fellow. and in addition to welcoming the c-span audience, i want to welcome chesley and amanda lafferty, phil's nieces. today we will hear perspectives from phil, his role but that the cia and at the fbi. if we look at the threat landscape that we face today and how it has metastasizeddand how we can continue to see the blurring of both foreign and domestic threats,

fbi field offices and communities of everythnic background. and componen of d now reaches tohe arab-american community. the response to tension and conflict related to allegations of discriminatory treatment based by arab, muslim and sikh communities across the country. there have been events sponsored that emphasize community engagement. u.s. attorneys across the nation are actively engaging arab and muslim communities to confront the challenges of the 21st century together. this is only anapshot of our efforts and we are working constantly to improve them and to build stronger relationships wihe community that we serve. our efforts are currently being reviewed and coordinated by the arab-muslim group which i established last year. i launched that advisory group th the goal of protectg our common security while preserving the values that we all share. th same values andatriotism that died adc's work also -- adc's work. let us not forget that it was a muslim man who first alerted poce to a smoking car in times square. the visuals of -- the her

we created the national security bureau of the fbi. this was under direction of larry silberman im later report to the president. the president adopted the recommendations. the idea was that previously teh dfbihe fbi had been focused on making law enforcement cases. the feeling was that we should enhance their intelligence and analytic capabilities. that is what we did. some people have suggested that we go so far as the united intelligence agency.eal domesti- frankly, i do not know any3 proposition. i personally would be categoriially against it. i think the focus of the intelligence work should bee international in nature, into this house extend it is done domestically, it should be done by the fbi -- into the exten!!he extent it is done domestically, i think it should be done by the fbi. i think some of it is a copycat phenomenon. people watch what is going on in the world and get ideas. unless they linked up in some serious way with international terrorist, i do not think they pose much of a threat. if they do link up with internat

we created the national security bureau of the fbi. this was on the recommendation of chucc robb and others, and the president adopted the recommendations. previously, the fbi had been strictly focused on making cases to prosecution, law enforcement. while no one wants to derogate from that investigation, the feeling was we wanted to enhance their investigation capabilities. some have to just that that we -pgo so far as the united kingdm to create a united intelligence agency. i do not know of any serious advocacyyfor the proposition. i would be categorically against it. our intelligence ought to be international in nature. host: there is some concern about what is being called "home grown terrorism." guest: that is best left up to local law enforcement. to a certain extent, some of it is a copycat phennmenon. they see what is happening around the world, read the internet,,and they get these ideas. unless the day linkup with serious ideas of international3 serious threat. host: i do you believe these incidents, the christmas day bombin

it is not a proud moment for the fbi. the first exposure resulted in "you guys are kidding." a second approach resulted in the actual taking series of this. i think the president, it is reported that he was upset. it is reported that j. edgar hoover was upset over the idea that americans could be so susceptible to damage in this way. the president said, "we better move quickly as possible and resolve this issue and signal that we are not week in this respect." if that is the case, i think the president deserves at least the credit for preserving the safety and security of american freedom. the principle involved is that the way in which to deal with individuals will signal and set a standard for and provide either a disincentive to our invitation to individuals who might think that the way they are processing would provide an opportunity to disrupt the freedom of the united states. oddly enough, in the meeting, whose basic charges that they operated without uniforms and violated the laws of war -- the penalty for the violation of the law of war has traditionally been up to an

fbi field offices and communities of every ethnic background. and components of do now reaches to the arab-american community. the response to tension and conflict related to allegations of discriminatory treatment based by arab, muslim and sikh communities across the country. there have been events sponsored that emphasize community engagement. u.s. attorneys across the nation are actively engaging arab and muslim communities to confront the challenges of the 21st century together. this is only a snapshot of our efforts and we are working constantly to improve them and to build stronger relationships with the community that we serve. our efforts are currently being reviewed and coordinated by the arab-muslim group which i established last year. i launched that advisory group with the goal of protecting our common security while preserving the values that we all share. the same values and patriotism that died adc's work also -- adc's work. let us not forget that it was a muslim man who first alerted police to a smoking car in times square. the v

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that includes ice, the fbi, the atf, the internal revenue service, the postal inspection service, the state department, and the inspector general's office. we pulled these folks together and ask them to consider the threats that we had uncovered and try to come up with a strategic response that would focus law enforcement efforts on these problems. we issued the strategy that resulted from that in 2008. it emphasized several different areas that law enforcement had to improve its performance in if we were to address these areas affectively. one of them -- without going to all of them -- one of the important ones was to try to bring together the intelllgence that existed concerning organized crime activities into one centralized location so that the federal government and law enforcement could cross- indexed that information and come up with a more effective response. in following up on that recommendation, which created the international organized crime intelligence and operations center. it was started last year. the cross -- it costs indexed law enforcement and government informatio

agents from a variety of agencies that work in the federal government that are included, including the fbi. we are taking the full weight of our investigative capabilities to look at this matter so that we can resolve this as quickly as we can. we want to do so in a way that does that have a negative impact on the cleanup effort. >> is your focus more environmental? [unintelligible] >> i don't think i would want to differentiate other than the investigation we have begun is comprehensive and we would look at a wide range of things, everything from false statements to the way in which certain entities conducted themselves. there is really nothing that is off the table at this point. >> [unintelligible] >> as i said, we have begun a criminal investigation and that threshold has been passed. we have to feel there is a significant predicate for us to open a criminal investigation. that threshold has been passed. these are all u.s. attorneys from washington. we just met with the state attorneys general from mississippi, alabama, and we have the attorney general from texas, as well, and louisian

host: another story getting a lot of attention -- moscow on the hudson has the fbi now being 10 and a high-level russian spy ring. details -- the cold war is alive and well, and apparently being waged right here in new york. yesterday the fbi announced it had smoked out a nest of 10 russian spies who spent decades under a long time the cover, living as ordinary suburbanites with lawns and minivans was gathering information. and one other headline from above the new york post" -- the russian spy ring is a big apple bust. you can read more in "the new york times" as well. joining us on the republican line, good morning. what is your take? caller: i'm from brooklyn and read "the new york times." i want to know where you stand. host: jacob is joining us from alaska, up arly. caller: howdy. i like to comment on the earlier comment about republicans being hypocritical. state rights in the sense of the classical, libertarian view has to do with limited government intervention. but this ruling has more to do with the 14th amendment and incorporating the second amendment to apply to the stage

in this case it would be the joint cyber investigator, joint task force, the fbi's thing that would actually take within the domestic capability as you all know, they have a great capability but it's not good enough for what we need. and there were statistics last year that came out that said the amount of money being made in cyberspace eclipsed the drug trade. when you think about that, you can see good news the drug trade is down, i don't think that's true. i think it's just the opposite. as a consequence i think putting it from the nation's perspective, what's on those networks that we got to secure? well, it's our intellectual property, the future of our country, the future of our industry. it will make up the future wealth of this nation. we've got to protect it. so i think establishing those rules of the road in cyberspace are going to be key. i think that's not a cyber com or defense department per se's conversation. we may play a part in it but i think that's going to be state, justice and the administration and we have a supporting role, a technical role. but i do think that laying

what does the fbi do when it's a war? what we do with foreign intelligence surveillance?oth of those get into classified areas, with oversight. i think we do that very well. the hard part is we cannot go out and tell everybody exactly what we did or we give up capability. it may be extremely useful in protecting our country and our allies. that is the real, what i see, as the two things we balance. i spend a lot of time with the court and congress, explaining exactly what we're doing, where we have issues, where it there needs to be changed, what we can and cannot do. we put that up to the court and we get things back from the court. i think it is growing and getting better. we spend a lot of time on that. the hard part? we cannot tell everybody what we're doing. it would be analogous to you explaining how you defended your system, your computer system. you said, i am defending my computer system using the following steps. one, two, 3, 4. adversary would say, thank you, now i know how to get around it. that is the problem we face. i think the real key to the issue, how we

it is it anyunproud moment for unproud - is ait is an moment for the fbi. they took this serious. the president is reported that the president was upset and j. edgar hoover was upset over the idea that americans could be so vulnerable and susceptible to damage in this way that the president said, we had better move quickly here if at all possible and signal to the world that we are not week in this respect. i think the president deserves at least the credit for preserving the safety and security of american freedom as a result of moving with dispatch. the principle involved is that the way in which you deal with individuals will signal and set a standard for and provide either a disincentive to or perhaps an invitation to individuals who might think that the way in which things are undertaken for dealing with or otherwise processing these kinds of matters would provide an opportunity to disrupt the freedom of the united states of america. oddly enough, the commission was meeting regarding the innocence or guilt of these individuals whose basic charge was that it operated without u

you can ask the fbi. >> yesterday you were firm about the number. you said 12 - and - where does that come from? 3 is different than 12. >> i have my sources. i was very careful yesterday to say i was not suggesting that the 12 we were aware of were all associated with terrorism. i said i'm not going into details. just in light of the converse we've seen, i can tell you that right now we're only aware of three american citizens in custody in yemen on terrorism charges. we're can wants to seek information and ask whether or not there are additional in custody we're not aware of. [inaudible] >> i guess that indicates they've been - you know, well, not to my knowledge. i don't know. >> americans released recently in recent days in yemen that were associated with terrorism charges? >> how far do you want to go back? have people been detained and questions on a variety of issues? the answer is yes, but i couldn't tie that flow - to these three? they associated with the arrest of three individual use speak of now? >> try me again? >> i'm asking if any ame

. >> a former deputy director of the fbi and the cia offers perspectives on u.s. counterterrorism efforts. live coverage starts at 10:30 a.m. eastern it on c-span. up next on c-span, it is "q&a." after that, david cameron in the british house of commons and in a debate between the candidates in the north carolina democratic senate primary. both chambers of congress are in session this week. of the senate returns tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern for general speeches. votes start at 6:00 p.m. eastern. also, a bill to extend jobless benefits and a bill that creates a $30 billion fund to help small businesses get credit. the house is back on tuesday at 12:30 p.m. eastern and at 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. later in the week, possible consideration of a measure that would set new requirements for campaign advertising and funding from corporations and unions. expect work from a 2010 spending expect work from a 2010 spending

it might be cid for the fbi. in my case, i had a legal staff that looked at everything that we executed in terms of action that we would take against a contractor and we will have the legal staff review it and we might reach back to the army staff to leverage some of their experience and take appropriate action. each case would be difffrent. >> one last question. do you need proof of direct payment being made or is reference of a link to association and of to take action? >> you would need facts and fax me be a sworn statement or two or three different people that may collaborate. you have to have factual, fact based evidence that something had occurred that you could take action against and you would know, we uphold the federal acquisition regulations that are derived by statute and law and we also charged our contractors to uphold the government of the skin stands -- the government of afghanistan flaws -- the government of of dennis stands -- the government of afghanistan's loss. tha>> this money is a lucrative

we've seen the fbi and others that have brick-and-mortar presence in our communities, and we have relationships with them. dhs, you know, has been around for coming up on a decade. we're still in the process of establishing those relationships. but make no mistake, there's been a huge amount of effort and a lot of success that's transpired over the last several years, as we have begun to create fusion centers and other mechanisms whereby local law enforcement can get together and begin to have a face-to-face contact with our state and federal partners. so that's the key there. and the other problem, i think, for us -- and i'll conclude on this -- is that you look across the country, and in california in particular, we're cutting services, we're cutting patrol officers. i'm standing to lose about eight percent of my work force the next month here. so when you're trying to figure out where you're going to prioritize what you're doing, we really do have to get savvy and figure out how we can share information, take advantage of each other's resources. it's going to be key to success in the future,

there was a warning in 2004 from the fbi that mortgage fraud became so epidemic tt if unchecked, it would result in a crisis as big as the s and l crisis. there were many flashing lights along the way. there is a country song by don mclean wheree says when the gates are all down and t signatures are flashing and the whistles are screaming and you stay on the tracks of boarding the fax, you cannot blame the wreck on the train. was the rolef the rating agencies to be referees in a game that got out of control? you told our staff that if they had not done the ratings come up they would have been hunted at by congress. do we not expect referees to make the call even if they get booed? >> they made the wrong call. they've basically believed, as most of t public did, you cann have this as possible without overwhelming believe, it did not mean anything in 2006 to listen to henry paulson. look at me. i was wrong on it too. i recognized something dramatic was going on. i actually called a bubblette. that was wrong. it was a four-star bubble. the rating agencies missed it. you can look to the march

testimony before the congress, homeland security, international relations, foreign relations, from the cia, fbi, time and time again, they have testified that the islamic terrorist financing is coming from countries such as saudi arabia, kuwait, united arab emirates countries. what i do not understand and cannot figure of it is why do not we'd insist that the islamic arab countries send troops in, and we go after terrorism financing. all these countries thaa we go into, somalia, yemen, sudan, these countries have the most to lose because they will be the first countries that will be overthrown. i would appreciate an answer. it is nine years after the attacks of 9/11. guest: thank you. you are very prospect -- perceptive. the financing simply does not make sense. when i visited qatar, dubai, uae -- and i represent hilton head island -- i tell these people that they look like hilton head island on steroids. these people want to live in the 21st century. you are right. usama bin laden's first target was the royal family of saudi arabia. we should expect more from them and work to stop the financin

he is the only person i know in my lifetime who has been involved in every agency -- the cia, the fbi. his corruption has extended to the pentagon, the private sector with the oil businesses, with all the big corporations, ge, and others. the republicans claim that ronald reagan, the great communicator -- that was the best acting job he ever did as far as i'm concerned. as for george bush, jr., he was a thumb tack president. his father put him into office and his father's cronies' ran it. host: what do you think the president obama should do now? caller: well, what can he do? the corruption is so imbedded. george bush, a senior was involved with bringing drugs into the country. he was accused of it and then they all watched it to. the nixon administration -- the public outcry against nixon got him to resign. there is no more public outcry. the american people have become so blase. the corruption is so entrenched that the idiot from texas who apologized to bp -- that is how far it is. host: next, looking at what is going on in congress and some elections happening around the country. w

. >> would that include sending the fbi? >> i am not prepared to say what role the united states would have this point. >> p.j., this building has made it a point to condemn human right abuses worldwide. they were shipping wheelchairs' and building equipment. how essential is it that this palace -- this equipment to the palestinians? is this useful right now? >> first of all, i cannot say right now what the status of the material that was on the ship. i can in the presidential statement, there was encouragement that that material be so -- be provided to the people of gaza. the secretary said again today that we have pressed the israelis to expand the amount of humanitarian assistance to the people of gaza and we will come in due to work with them every day to try to make that happen. >> before the hotel was launched, there was some communication between the israeli government and the u.s. ambassador with regard to assistance. the israelis made no secret about what they were planning to do. they even put together a press pool

where is this fbi -- fdic funding going to go? a depository institution, is it not? we afford to start taxing banks to fund non depository institutions. that would raise a lot of concern from our local bankers. they are not suggesting that. finally, to the point in the cbo scoring, while i did appreciate and found it interesting with the senate staffers were sort of running the show as opposed to the centers themselves. we find ourselves in the same boat today. we have been here for almost an hour and 45 minutes. i am still looking for that proverbial cbo scoring to document exactly where the money is coming from. we still do not have it. [unintelligible] it is troublesome. to go back to where i began, the program name for this bill is probably the frank/dodd bill. to the constituents, can you do anything better than this? my question is the same. really? can we do better than what you are suggesting? i yield back. >> the gentlewoman from west virginia. >> thank you. i like to make two brief points. one is on the fdic increase in the percentage. having found this out

there was a warning in 2004 from the fbi that mortgage fraud became so epidemic that if unchecked, itould result in a crisis as big as the s and l crisis. there were many flashing lights along the way. there is a country song by don mclean where he says when the gates are all down and the signatures are flashing and the whistles are screaming and you stay on the tracks of boarding the fax, you cannot blame the wreck on the train. was the role of the rating agencies to be referees in a game that got out of control? you told our staff that if they had not done the ratings come up they would have been hunted at by congress. do we not expect referees to make the call even if they get booed? >> they made the wrong call. they've basically believed, as most of the public did, you cannot have this as possible without overwhelming believe, it did not mean anything in 2006 to listen to henry paulson. look at me. i was wrong on it too. i recognized something dramatic was going on. i actually called a bubblette. that was wrong. it was a four-star bubble. the rating agencies missed it. you can loo

we have investigation agencies from a variety of places that are including the fbi. we are taking the full weight of our investigative capabilities to look at this matter so that we can resolve this as quickly as we can, hold people accountable, and do so in a way that does not in any way have a negative impact on the clinic -- cleanup effort. >> going after bp for misleading the public as to the extent of this bill vote -- of this bill both before and after? >> i would not differentiate at this point is this -- except to say that this is a comprehensive investigation, looking at a wide range of things from all statements to the way in which certain entities conducted themselves. there's really nothing that is off the table at this point. >> [inaudible] >> we have begun a criminal investigation. we have to feel that there is a sufficient factual predicate for us to open a criminal investigation, and as i said, that threshold has been passed. [inaudible] these are all u.s. attorneys as well as people from washington. we just met with the state attorney general from mi

it's that unit that did the investigation of the fbi laboratory. my 2.5 days on the job has shown me there is not that kind of investigative capability in my organization, and i think it's vital to create it, it's vital to create it both to investigate internal allegations of misconduct, that is misconduct against people in my agency, but also to pursue with aggressiveness and diligence, allegations that the companies that are under the regulatory supervision of my agency are not doing what they're supposed to do, have violated the terms of their leases, and they have made false statements or engaged in other misconduct in order to acquire those. i think it's a very important capability, and i fel proud to have created it, secretary salazar, when i proposed it just the other day, immediately embraced it, and we're going to try to stand that up, absolutely as soon as possible. i realize i'm taking over this agency at a critical and challenging time. i look forward to the challenge and i look forward to working with all you as we move forward. >> tha

in setting the assessment necessary to raise the minimum target from 1.5% to 1.35%, the fbi's i shall -- the fdic sell- off offset this on depository institutions that have less than $10 million in assets. banks with under $2 billion in assets will not pay for this increase. the last time the conference met, we adopted an offset by proposing a financial crisis assessment. we've heard from another -- a number of our colleagues about concerned with that provision. and so we have proposed a strike that. -- we have proposed to strike it.

he is a graduateeof the fbi national executive institute. he has spent his life in law enforcement and policy regarding that, including as police chief for seattle washington, police commissioner for buffalo, new york, and served in the st. petersburg police department and later as police chief at port st. lucie. he also served as deputy director of the u.s. department of justice. we have been talking about the white house balanced approach, but you come to it with a law enforcement background. what most affected your views about drug use and drug policy over your career? listening to the officers and detectives that become incredibly frustrated. they are the first ones to be supportive of drug courts. they are the first ones to be supportive of treatment on demand. i have never heard my colleagues, former colleagues of police chiefs and sheriffs, call it a war. i have heard them say we cannot arrest our way out of the situation. so looking at those, not being soft on drugs but being smart on drugs probably makes a lot of sense. also, treatm

. >> former deputy director of the fbi and cia offer perspectives on u.s. counter terrorism efforts. live coverage. >> claudia right is facing jim matthiessen. this is about 20 minutes. >> this is sunday edition with bruce lindsey. >> in the sunday edition, >> i am a democrat. >> a congressman faces a challenger. >> i believe the people come first. >> a conversation with jim matthiessen and clear right in this addition. -- with jim matheson and claudia wright. >> this is not want to be a formal debate, but rather a conversation in which our guests will be able to differentiate their opinions. i have asked them to give a self introduction and i will ask jim matheson he would go first. >> you know me. you know that in my time in office i've always put utah first, and i am proud of the fact that i approach every issue with the notion of solving problems and making progress. i've listened to people in utah and they've helped guide me in how to make progress on issues. so whether it's stopping foreign radioactive waste from coming to utah or whether it's resolvi