i believe fda needs more personnel. i fda needs more money. but in the climate around here i doubt that will happen. on the one hand we want more safety. we want to level the playing field. so you have offices right now, fda has offices in china and india and places like that. i don't know how well they are staffed. i know the offices are there. but speak to this, about inspections being delayed, about inspections, what good is it it if you have to announce it two, three weeks in advance. and the ability of your office is overseas to conduct on-site inspection unannounced. is that the kind of authority you need from congress? >> senator harkin, you mention one authority in particular which would be very useful which ch is the ability of the fda to refuse import of product of foreign facilities that refuse to let fda in to inspect. it seems common sensical that if a company is not a good enough players to actually let the age sin in to see how it is operating, those are not the products we want to come to the american consumers. but at the mome

i believe fda needs more personnel. i fda needs more money. but in the climate around here i doubt that will happen. on the one hand we want more safety. we want to level the playing field. so you have offices right now, fda has offices in china and india and places like that. i don't know how well they are staffed. i know the offices are there. but speak to this, about inspections being delayed, about inspections, what good is it it if you have to announce it two, three weeks in advance. and the ability of your office is overseas to conduct on-site inspection unannounced. is that the kind of authority you need from congress? >> senator harkin, you mention one authority in particular which would be very useful which ch is the ability of the fda to refuse import of product of foreign facilities that refuse to let fda in to inspect. it seems common sensical that if a company is not a good enough players to actually let the age sin in to see how it is operating, those are not the products we want to come to the american consumers. but at the mome

crosse, what's wrong with the fda's drug supply chain information systems and what does the fda need to do to fix them? >> well, there are several problems. they had a long history of poor information technology systems and they're in a process now of trying to upgrade those systems across the board, across the entire agency. that's taking several years, and it's encountered many difficulties in trying to integrate what had been a number of different freestanding systems that were compatible. i mentioned just a moment ago one of the problems is that some of the key information they get comes from another agency, from customs and border protection which is not providing accurate information in many instances, because of the way certain identifiers are generated in that system. fda has been taking some steps to try to verify information that they have, they've actually hired contractors to go now and look at certain suspect facilities to see if they're actually located where they've told the fda that they are. and they've found a number of facilities that are are not at the locations t

fda has to ensure drugs from abroad meet fda quality standards.o discuss these and other possible solutions, the fda will be hosting a public meeting next month, september 26th, and this is held to gain additional insight of the causes and impacts of this challenge and possible strategies for solutions. then on friday, september 30th, the fda is conducting a webinar for the public, and this is an opportunity for people to learn more about what the fda is doing to address this challenge, and it will be a venue for citizens to ask questions 20 experts working on this topic every day. although i focused my comments until now on the fda, i should stress that the entire department of health department and human services has been fully engaged on this topic for quite some time. we view this as a pressing public health challenge, and we want to resolve this on behalf of the department and indeed the entire country. this past summer, i convened a series of meetings with representatives from fda, national cancer institute, the cvv, center fer disease contr

koh within the fda. just as it relates to resolving and mitigating these challenges. i can speak to a couple different references. one come a discussion earlier in testimony around court nation of importation of product to alleviate critical troop shortages. there was a specific instance in which we worked with the fda to bring a new product called leucovorin that's used in combination with chemotherapy to enhance the effect is said that treatment does so as to mitigate side effects. we brought it in and had a significant resources to work collaboratively with that and were able to help mitigate that problem. the solution that we are looking at recognizing as the multi-stakeholder issue. i do need to comment as it exists today, there is tremendous cooperation within the truck shortage crippen manufacturing community. as referenced earlier, there is no formal process. it's an informal process and i can speak on behalf of teva and other manufacturers in the state that we too will collaborate with the fds testified earlier in the take that very seriously. we are respondi

we support the fda's role in production drug's safety. they need the power and jurisdiction to enforce early reporting of drug shortages. the other thing that was most important is get the word to everybody at the same time. it is beyond me that others have drug product when i don't. when drugs come to the market there are only certain places you get them from and not your normal supply chain. i think we need regulation in order to solve the problems we have at hand. >> mr. alkire, we heard end users of drugs have little advance warning when the going to shortage. a surgeon may find out the preferred drug is not available after the patient is prepped and on the operating room table. how does this happen? how do hospitals give warning to their own doctors? >> i have not heard that but very strong communication occurs that hospitals and doctors are made aware of especially with these procedures. they have to figure out the potential clinical alternatives to assure patients the getting the highest quality care. >> dr. penley, how many drugs

fda has to ensure drugs from abroad meet fda quality standards. to discuss these and other possible solutions, the fda will be hosting a public meeting next month, september 26th, and this is held t gain additional insight of the causes and impacts of this challenge and possible strategies for solutions. then on friday, september 30th, the fda is conducting a webinar for the public, and this is an opportunity for people to learn more about what the fda is doing to address this challenge, and it wil be a venue for citizens to ask queions 20 experts working on this topic every day. although i focused my comments until now on the fda, i should stress that the entire department of health department and human services has been fully engaged on this topic for quite some time. we view this as a pressing public health challenge, and we want to resove this on behalf of the department and indeed the entire country. this past summer, i convened a series of meetings with representatives from fda, national cancer institute, the cvv, center fer disease control

the fda has been without a fullrs worely on the fda to permanent . >> i see i've >> absolutely.120,000 workers. it's it's an extremely important agency. do you think it's unconchenable our legislature has not solved that problem? >> we have to understand that there is some really good career civil servants who probably are making sure that agencyre >>> are drug manufacturers raising the price in the very clutch at the end? >> we do see some raising the price in the 6-9 months before the patent expires. >> does that defeat the alleged massive savings to the consumer from ger nark drugs? >> not at all. the opportunity is enormous. we know that if the country used anti-inflammatoriy drugs the way doctors and kaiser did rather than celebrex and vioxx, the country would have saved 5 billion dollars. >> i'm sorry we are out of time dr. sharon levine. if. for such a small word it packs a wallop. if i live to a hundred. if social security isn't enough. if my heart gets broken. if she says yes. we believe if should never hold you back. if should be managed with a plan that builds on what you al

host: explain to us the fda's pursuit of this. what resources does the fda have? guest: the short answer is not enough. the fda has to respect domestic manufacturing facilities every two beers. they do it pretty well. the fda will come in and expect the premises every two to three years. if you are manufacturing in china for the u.s. market, the fda on average will get there every nine years, is thought. -- if that. host: what are china and india doing to make sure the ingredients are safe? guest: both countries have been increasing their quality standards. there regulators have been getting more serious about the issue. in china they take the position that the manufacturing in china for china is the principal focus of their regulator. if the u.s. is buying from manufacturers not accredited by them that is not their concern. host: how has congress addressed this particular part of the drug issue? guest: there is bipartisan recognition of the problem in the house and senate. we have had a house democratic bills -- house democratic bills. in the senate, the chair of

if there's participator shortage, our contact is fda. as testified, i think the point was made they do not immediately post that information because that can trigger additional behavior where the shortage leads to purchasing of another generic product or even another comparative therapy that can drain those supplies as well. we coordinate directly with the drug shortage group and with our hospital partners and distribution partners. >> how have you worked with the fda? >> extremely well. there's many instances in which we collaborated. through the drug shortage groups they have been playing quarterback on this. it's not a formal process, but they do a fantastic job. there's been at least three occasions where we had submitted a prior approval supplement, and by definition of that, that's an extensive review indicating there's been sighted changes to a process that would take long, but they expedite reviews and get those approved in about a three month period that allowed us to get the critical products to market. >> thank you. mr. gray,

host: explain to us the fda's pursuit of this. what resources does the fda have?guest: the short answer is not enough. the fda has to respect domestic manufacturing facilities every two beers. they do it pretty well. the fda will come in and expect the premises every two to three years. if you are manufacturing in china for the u.s. market, the fda on average will get there every nine years, is thought. -- if that. host: what are china and india doing to make sure the ingredients are safe? guest: both countries have been increasing their quality standards. there regulators have been getting more serious about the issue. in china, they take the position that the manufacturing in china for china is the principal focus of their regulator. if the u.s. is buying from manufacturers not accredited by them, that is not their concern. host: how has congress addressed this particular part of the drug issue? guest: there is bipartisan recognition of the problem in the house and senate. we have had a house democratic bills -- house democratic bills. in the senate, the chair o

fda must also ensure that drugs imported are from a manufacturing facility that meets fda qualificationso discuss these and other possible solutions the fda will be hosting a public meeting next monday, said number 26, and this meeting is being held to you in additional insight of causes and impacts of this challenge and possible strategies for solutions. then on friday september 30 the fda is conducting a webinar for the general public and this is an opportunity for people to learn more about what the fda is doing to address this challenge. there will also be a venue for citizens to ask questions strictly to fda experts who are working on this topic every day. although i focus my comments until now on the fda i should stress the entire department of health and human services has been fully engaged on this topic for quite some time. we view this as a pressing public health challenge and we want to resolve this on behalf of the department and indeed the entire country. this past summer i personally convened a series of meetings with representatives from fda, and sierra national cancer ins

john lafook with how the fda is trying to figure out what to do about it. >> reporter: today an fda panelhow frustrated doctors are about the shortage of drugs. >> pharmaceutical representatives spend bazillions of dollars trying to influence me to buy these drugs. on most of these drugs i'm sold. i'll buy them, you know. i'll use them, okay? just make them. >> reporter: drugs used by hospitals make up the bulk of the more than 200 medications in critical short supply. 87% are generic, not brand name. according to the fda, in the past five years drug shortages have tripled. valerie jensen has been studying the problem for the fda. >> many of them had involved oncology drugs, cancer drugs, as well as anesthesia drugs and other critical care drugs. so this has had a large impact on patients. >> reporter: that's what happened to 56-year-old marsha goodman. we visited her last month as she was getting ready to be treated with ovarian cancer with the chemotherapy drug doxil, but her clinic had run out of it. >> i had started to feel hopeful this drug was going to work and so my heart sank. >>

finally, i would replace the qana fpa with -- current fda with a 20% three food and drug administration whose specific jobs -- 21st century food and drug administration with specific job is fundamentally opposite of the current fda. if you want to create jobs, help the biggest economy in the world. if people want to get healthy, they will live longer. we will dominate the health market in the world and if we can do so, those are very high- value jobs that pay very well and produce a lot of capital for the united states. it is thes most logical area if you are trying to promote a high income economy. we have more total energy,

that's what the fda looks at and the epa initially. in addition, your assumption that organic arsenic is s fe is not true. organic arsenic has been looked at in fish. in those species, it does seem to be safe. but there's been a lot of debate. over the safety of organic arsenic, and the body converts inorganic arsenic into some types of organic arsenic that are very toxic. it's misleading to claim that organic arsenic is safe. the american people need to know that there's been a shift in our food supply for apple juice. i'm a big supporter of apple juice. i talked about it on my show. i continue to give it to my kids. i want to be clear about this. nobody is dying from acute toxicity of arsenic. the levels we're talking about are much lower than that. my concern is long-term effects over years of kids getting arsenic levels higher than we can tolerate. the fda and epa have been continually reducing the amount of arsenic we think is safe for us. >> mehmet, you're still implying that drinking apple juice is exposing children to toxic ars

now the fda is investigating.a hughes. >> reporter: 56 y50er8d-year-old marsha goodman was supposed be treated with the drug doxil, but the drugstore ran out. goodman had to take an alternative drug and eventually found more doxil. health care providers told the fda on monday it's a medication crisis. more than 200 drugs are in short supply, most of them used by hospitals. the medicine is mostly generic and the fda says drug shortageses have tripled in the past five years. >> we've had much more consolidation of manufacturers of generic drugs. we've had much more reimbursement pressure on generic drugs. and we've had the emergence of many more gray market vendors for both participants and causes of the drug shortage problem. >> more than half of the hospitals respond to go a drug shortage survey admit using so-called gray market vendors for companies other than normal wholesalers. in one case, a high pressure drug normally priced at $25 was being offered by gray market vendors for $1,200 a dose. fda officials worr

according to the fda, the lab methods were not appropriate.da says it's been testing apple juice for years and no evidence of any public health risk from driing it. >>> a marine received the medal of honor from obama. he was just 21 years old two years ago when his team was ambushed. against orders he and another marine drove into the line of fire rescuing 36 marine soldiers. mayer went back to retrieve the bodies of the fallen. >>> four men were killed that day including 22-year-old james layton. at a cemetery, family and friends gathered to honor him. found his body draped over another marine whom he tried to save. requested each have their own ceremony today. >>> renewable energy in the bay area took a step forward as pg&e dedicated another giant wind farm. tom vacar has the story and he's going to show us how truly big, big really is. >> reporter: utility scale generations is enormous here in the hills. this generator tips the scales at more than 70 tons. twice that of a fully loaded semi truck. builders of the project says this blade set

establish an early warning point of contact at the fda. i think the committee -- i thank the committee for the opportunity to share what we have learned about drug charges and the impact it has on the safety and health of our community as well as our health care costs. we stand ready to assist congress in finding ways to insure a safe and reliable drug supply. guest: thank you. we appreciate your patience. we've got five minutes left for a vote. i think we will break here and come back. as soon as the last vote is over. we'll continue the testimony then. >> i want to ask a minute -- consent to submit the record of congressman matheson. >> the subcommittee stands in recess. until after the last vote. you have a long time where you can go eat. host: caller: [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] [no audio] >> thank you for your patience and a thoughtful testimony. we will resume the testimony with dr. pindley? >> good afternoon. at to you and the remainder of the subco

shortage is coming somewhat we are doing everything we can within our authority. >> reporter: the fda'srity is limited when a company's profits are at stake. >> one thing that really helps us is when companies let us know. they let us know we can help fix that problem. >> the fda does not have the authority to compel a pharmaceutical company to make a drug. what they try to do in a situation like this is play matchmaker. if one company decides to stop making a drug they can help another drug ramp up production to take up the slack. cbs news, new york. >>> l you can forget angry birds. turns out that most of our fishing friends are ticked off as well. a new scientific study found most fish in the united states become aggressive due to boring, cramped surroundings. with more than 182 million pets swimming in aquariums all around the country that is a lot of feisty fish. experts suggest adding obstacles such as rocks and plants to their environments to keep the family goldfish a lot happier. >> is anyone surprised at that, really? just look at them. they look angry. >> i do whatever i can

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the fda is warning consumers to throw away any rocky ford brand cantaloupe you may have. >> couches, mattresses and refrigerators all have a place, but not in the middle of the road. but that's where much of it ends up. but it's illegal and up safe. vicky nguyen takes us in depth tonight. every bay area highway. >> some days are just one call after the next. >> reporter: day or night. >> heavy and slow. >> all the sections of the

we've given to it the fda. i want a conversation.'t want folks decide on their own oh, it's too complicated for me to figure out. american apples don't have arsenic. why do we ban arsenic on apples and still taking apples from other countries into this nation. once in while we need to figure we're getting what we're supposed to. some companies don't have arsenic others do in their apple juice. >> so, what's the takeaway then? should we feel comfortable with grabbing that bottle of apple juice from concentrate or fresh or otherwise? >> i've been to enough medical conferences when a doctor has been called out and now he begins the tap dance. it's albio gus and no one should be afraid to drink apple juice. fda has done a wonderful job in protecting the sources of food we enjoy. everyone should enjoy their apple juice and not be concerned. >> something told me you were take a sip. all right thank you. cheers. >> we'll talk again soon. >> thank you. >>> how does jennifer hudson feel about losing 80 pounds. she says she's prouder of that t

the fda says there are lower numbers of levels. the dispute is around inorganic arsenic and organ beganic arsenic believed to be harmless. >> this fear mongering reminds me of yelling "fire" in a movie theater. >> we did our home work on this and spent a lot of time making sure we got numbers right. >> how are you ku go on the air and publish arsenic result was out breaking it down into inorganic or organic. >> we looked at what the epa looks at and your assumption is not true. >> and fda says it warned airing the episode would be misleading and irresponsible. the fda is recalling cantaloupes from a colorado farm after investigators found a melon contaminated with lift yeara. -- listeria. they've stopped harvesting the cantaloupes. and the cdc says more testing is needed to determine if it's the same strain responsible for a recent and deadly outbreak. >> net flix continues to disappoint and groupon could be back in the ipo game. >> and there is research in motion can't seem to get past black berry blues. they missed big on sails o

but the fda did their own testing and found much lower levels. they insist apple juice is safe. still, dr. oz stood by his findings. >> other groups, independent of ours, over the last three years have been publishing reports about this. >> reporter: he cited this 2009 university of arizona study. so we looked at it. researchers there found one of the five samples they tested with nearly triple the level of arsenic allowed in drinking water. >> the fda should not allow more arsenic in our apple juice than we allow in our drinking water. >> reporter: the limit for arsenic in water is 10 parts per billion. for fruit juice, 23 parts per billion. but the fda says they set a lower limit for the amount of arsenic allowed in water because people consume more water than juice. and so much water is used in processing food. the problem may be where our apples are coming from. some 60% of the juice concentrate comes from china, where arsenic is still used in pesticides. the bottom line, though? most doctors we spoke to today say parents should be more worried about the sugar in that juice

maybe the fda has to go back and say, you know what? dr.ncentrations he will grade. it was inorganic at the end of the day, and is that still safer. that's the question the government has to answer. look at your books and tell the american public we'll look into this and we'll get back to you. >> he didn't do the right test, that's the problem. megyn: i have got to go back to the panelists. i want to say because dr. oz has been accused of manufacturing a crisis here, and scaring a lot of parents, he compared the arsenic in apple juice to the amounts per miss nibble water. we drink a lot more water than apple juice. so you can't put as much --th can't be as much arsenic in water. so it's comparing andals to oranges. >> that's why we see there is a problem. >> the fda ruled based on regulations its is safer for consumption. if dr. manny and everyone else wants to lower the regulations and the amount put forth a study that shows its's' harmful to humans. and you chug your apple juice. i think you misunderstood your assignment. >> i'm defending

it's true for some brands, but we'll tell you why the fda isn't worried, but dr. oz is. let's start in nevada. federal investigators are on their way, in particular to reno. they're trying to pinpoint the cause of a deadly plane crash at an air raid. these r terrifying moments caught on tape. >> at least three people killed, dozens more hurt when that plane slammed into the crowd. it barely missed a grand stand that was packed with spectators. witnesses say they thought they were going to die and they are now calling the pilot of that plane a hero. >> i think that that pilot, in the last two seconds, pulled up because he saw the bleachers and i would guess he probably saved 200 to 300 other people. and i don't mean any disrespect to the injured, but i would consider him to be a hero because he pulled up and did what i think was his best job to hit the target. >> our dan simon is there for us in reno. dan, good morning again. have we learned any indication what possibly could have caused this? >> we really don't know at this point. what we know is that the aircraft picked

the fda can now do that.ng more inspections at various plants, various facilities, that's also been amped up as well. that's where this comes into play. now, not everyone thinks this is a good idea. for example, the american meat industry, they released a statement saying, look, we think this is going to cost a lot of money, those costs will be passed on to the consumer and we don't think there's significant public health benefit by keeping this additional food out of the food supply. again, food that has these additional strains of e. coli. this is obviously how it it is going to be for now. you know, talking about food and food safety, something people are paying attention to is listeria, as well. different than e. coli but potentially deadly bacteria. 16 people have become sick. they've been able to trace this particular bacteria back to the rocky ford region in colorado and in cantaloupes specifically. a fascinating process the way they do this inspection, unravel the mystery for where this food came. but

oz and that will clear it right up. >> the fda sent a letter to the oz show five days before the show was to air, warning them airing the show would be irresponsible and misleading. >> irresponsible and misleading? it must be sweeps week. some have even accused the doctor of fearmongering. >> i am not fearmongering. i'm a big supporter of apple juice. i talked about it on my show, i continue to give it to my kids. >> i love apples. some of my best friends are apples. didn't you see my pictures from six flags? obviously dr. oz is drumming up a false controversy. but there are real threats to our nation's children. >> the uproar over one of the new contestants on dancing with the stars. >> it is fair to say there has never been this much controversy on dancing with the stars, before the season began. >> i think it's fair to say i have never given a [bleep] (applause) (cheers and applause) >> which one of this season's contestants could possibly incite so much hatred and disgust. there's only one candidate. >> i'm nancy grace. >> known as hln's most fearless prosecutor. >> i just want to

. >> the fda has no idea of the cantaloupe got contaminated. they are especially worried about seniors, pregnant women, and people with chronic illnesses. >> it can lead to serious infections throughout your bloodstream and death. >> bottom line, check your refrigerator. >> of people have that canelo, they should throw it out. if they do not know where it came from, they should not eat it. >> there have been at least a dozen cantaloupe of bricks on the last decade. the fda is working with local authorities to make sure these melons get out of stores. but their biggest concern is whether or not they may be in your home. tracie potts, nbc news, washington. >> still to come, she's no stranger to prime time. maria bello returns to the 10:00 spots as the star of the new police drama. >> the mild air continues across the east coast. cool air over the great lakes. even cooler air will follow that. that is coming for the weekend. that is coming up in the seven day forecast to a 74 at the airport. 76 at the inner harbor. >> and the doctors here to answe

the fda permitted bpa in food packaging. breast cancer researcher says to be safe, we need to take the chemical out of the food supply. >> you want to avoid bpa for your children, you're going to be eating organic food and you're going to be paying premium prices for things and that shouldn't be the way it is. >> the fda is reviewing safely levels. until then, here are inexpensive alternatives. dried pasta and jarred sauce. boxed macaroni and cheese, soups packed, and for something sweet, fresh fruit. i'm dr. kim, cbs 5 health watch. >>> and now to something else that might upset your stomach. the government bought hundreds of muffins at $16 each. oh, and that's not all. tonight, a serving. >>> tonight, a flight bound for the bay area lands with more passengers than it took off with. >> triple digits tonight, we are still in the mid 70s. the cooldown and the day to xfect it as eyewitness news continues on the cw. [ screaming ] [ zapping ] there goes dwayne's car. oh, man. there goes dwayne's house. whoa! whoa! and there goes

oz this week about his study and the fda response.im and the controversy he has stirred up. >> i think folks have a right to know that there's arsenic in our apple juice. the amount that's appropriate we need to talk about. i've had open invitation, i'll say it again, fda, apple industry, trade groups are welcome on the show. what i don't want to do is have the american public quibble. >> you are the one who has doctor in front of your name. organic, is there not a difference between organic and inorganic. >> organic arsenic our body copes with as well. the inorganic is the stuff we are worried about. i'm on base with that. the question i need to found out and i asked for this information a couple weeks ago and i was told to fill out a freedom of information act to get it. it's not like we haven't been trying it. we reran because we were told the arsenic levels aren't overstating. we had a washington affiliate saying 30 more samples from the area found the exact same thing, 10 out 306 had elevated levels of arsenic in the sampling. >>

. >> reporter: the fda doesn't offer any clear definitions either. >> in some cases, you need a panel of rabbis to determine whether it's natural or not natural. >> reporter: the fda says the all natural phrase is accurate as long as there's no added color, artificial flavors or synthetic substances. but what about something like high fructose corn syrup, something that's commonly referred to as a natural sweetener? the sugar companies would say it's not. in fact, they've taken it to court. corn syrup companies disagree. still, overall there have been a host of lawsuits that have claimed that the use of the all natural phrase is deceiving customers into paying more for something that really isn't there. >> it's going to take a lot of private lawsuits, or the government saying, hey, enough is enough. here's the definition, stick with it or we're going to get your products off the market. >> reporter: but in the last few years there's just been more and more, the number of new all natural products on store shelves has jumped nearly 70% since 2005. >> you have to try to understand what t

the fda is getting hit with a 10% bite. john hendren, abc news. >>> for the most up-to-date information on food contaminations and recalls, which now include chopped romaine lettuce, grape tomatoes, ground beef and cantaloupe, go to abcnews.com. >>> to politics now. and major changes in the republican race for president. the latest poll finds rick perry is no longer at the front of the pack. abc's karen travers has more from washington. >> reporter: as rick perry meets with republican donors. a new fox news poll shows him in second place behind mitt romney. is romney the front-runner again? maybe not. perry has dropped ten points since august. but romney's support is basically unchanged. he hasn't seemed to benefit from perry's recent stumble. campaign ads from the perry campaign slams romney as a flip-flopper. romney responded. >> if you don't change your view, you get fired for being suborn and stupid. >> reporter: republicans who were hoping for a chris christie campaign may have to keep holding their breath. but the win

the fda has the new egg roll. there have been a lot of efforts made in terms of driving down contaminations of food products in the production environment. we have somnolent it's going in the wrong direction. i think everybody is collectively trying to scratch their heads and figure that out. arkansas be not looking in the right place? is it not poultry and is it something of? are we looking or sampling in the wrong place to be able to determine what is going on? this is something that food and that has been very interested in try to dig into the salmonella data. one of the things we have been doing is we have a chicken parts and baseline knowing that more people are buying chicken parts these days. we are interested to see what that data tells us if there is a higher rate of contamination and chicken parts and the whole bird. might that incentivize us to do something differently. finally, certainly in the wake of the recent large outbreak and recall of poultry, we have been looking at it before that. we need to l

from the industry to the fda, fda to the industry? i think they should genetically modify politicians so they are not corrupt, if you think it is so great to genetically modify stuff. why can we not genetically modify these politicians? host: we will leave it there. guest: people have the idea that there was never any genetic modification. all of our foods, except for wild caught fish, truffles, blueberries, they are all genetically modified. we have been busy genetically modifying foods 4 10,000 years. in the 20th-century, we used much cruder techniques than we use now. this method of genetic modification is more benign than any others that came before it. this is the tragedy of people's misunderstanding of what we're doing now. to force people to put people in jail for genetically modifying foods when what they're doing is improving and making them safer , and making genetic modifications that make it possible to use less chemicals, less toxic chemicals that are better for the environment, people have really set themselves against t

the fda spotted the list here in one bank of chopped lettuce -- one bag. about 90 cards have been recalled. the ceo is working with the fda -- about 90 carton's have been recalled. >> some time is like finding a needle in the head stack. >> listeria really shows up in produce. >> it is a bit of a puzzle for us as to where and the whole process of growing and packaging and distribution it might have been contaminated. been people have sickened. at least 16 have died. >> it has been pure hell. >> tamis palmer is suing. husband is clinging to life. there are fears the operate could get worse. >> we might see the illnesses and fatalities for the next month up into october. >> health officials do not know how the lettuce or cantaloupe got contaminated. kate amara, wbal-tv 11 news. >> millions of americans lost their jobs in this economy and no one mother has turned her job loss into a great escape. a profile of a woman and the unconventional job she took on to say for family by becoming an escape artist. that is on the today show today. interesting. 57 degrees.

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michael taylor of the fda. we have a lot of interest and you do as well. thank you for coming. if you have questions please identify yourself and your organization. if you are tweeting our tag is ogilvieexchange. we would love you too week. i will turn it over to dr. hagen. >> thank you and good morning to everybody. it is nice to see you in the front row, tony. am i supposed to talk into this mike or step back? we will do some slides this morning which is fun because i don't normally do slides but when we looked at the attendee list it was a mixed group in terms of perspective and food safety regulation. i hope this isn't too simplistic for all of you or any of you but i thought we would walk through the basics and see where the conversation takes us. since i don't normally do slides i do this at the same time. the first question is why do we care about this? why do we have a number of agencies in the regulation of food in this country? this is serious business. we estimated last year that forty-eight million americans get sick from food borne illness. forty-eight million peop

michael taylor from the fda. this is something we have interest in and you do as well.hank you, all, for coming. again, if you have questions, identify yourself and your organization, and if you're tweeting from this event, our tash tack is ogilvy exchange. i'll turn it over. >> thank you. it's nice to see you, tony, right up in the front row. [laughter] do i talk into the mic or step back? okay. we'll do slides this morning. this is fun because i don't normally do slides when i'm out doing speeches, but when we looked at the attendance, it's a mixed group of attendees in terms of perspectives and understanding of food safety regulation here in the united states, so i hope this is not too simplistic for all of you or really for any of you, but i hoped to walk through the basics and see where the conversations takes us if that's okay with everybody. okay, so, i don't normally do slides, i have to figure out how to do this at the same time. all right. good. so the first question is why do we care about this? why do we have a number of agencies involved in the regulation o

michael taylor from the fda. this is something we have interest in and you do as well. thank you, all, for coming. again, if you have questions, identify yourself and your organization, and if you're tweeting from this event, our tash tack is ogilvy exchange. i'll turn it over. >> thank you. it's nice to see you, tony, right up in the front row. [laughter] do i talk into the mic or step back? okay. we'll do slides this morning. this is fun because i don't normally do slides when i'm out doing speeches, but when we looked at the attendance, it's a mixed group of attendees in terms of perspectives and understanding of food safety regulation here in the united states, so i hope this is not too simplistic for all of you or really for any of you, but i hoped to walk through the basics and see where the conversations takes us if that's okay with everybody. okay, so, i don't normally do slides, i have to figure out how to do this at the same time. all right. good. so the first question is why do we care about this? why do we have a number of agencies involved in the regulation

. >> the fda should not have advisory powers? >> i should have a right. when people are struggling with aids and other governments were approving drugs before we were, they were importing them illegally and they allowed it happen legally. looking at switzerland and other countries where they allow heroin addicts to go to the clinic, that is the right policy. the scientific evidence is there. >> you would do away what drug certifications by the dea. >> i don't think the d.a. should be certified in drugs. -- the dea should decertifying drugs. >> i'll like to see the institute of medicine at assessing the quality of trucks. i like to see them give a warning about these things. but i do not think people should be arrested and incarcerated for putting a substance in their body that they think is helping them. >> by all standards, if someone is taking marijuana instead of more famer something like that, it is far more mild than the very strong and addictive products. something milder like marijuana works, it is far less-health consequences far l-- far less nega

that's what the fda looks at.nd i'm sure the stroller is stolen too. and we know what you are doing. and at that point the guy just denied it and walked off. >> reporter: she thinks the crook will be scared off for a while but wants to warn other parents with bobs or those looking to buy a used one. in portland, abc news. >>> the terrible drought in texas almost cost a puppy his life. this little fellow disappeared down a crack in the earth caused by dry weather. that's when heroes from animal services in dallas went to work. had to be careful to keep the dirt from caving in on top of the puppy. listen to his cries. after 20 minutes and whimpering the dog was pulled free. so happy to see that. >> nice work by the guys. nice work. all right, here is your friday forecast, everybody. showers from wilmington, north carolina, down to tampa. light rain across much of texas. thunderstorms from albuquerque to salt lake city. cooler, drier along the pacific coast. morning lows in the 30s believe it or not, minnesota to mai

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. >> the fda spotted the listeria in one bag of chopped romaine lettuce from true leaf farms, leading the california company to recall about 90 cartons for possible contamination. the ceo says he's working with the fda. >> we grow all our product outside and sometimes it's like finding a needle in a haystack. >> health officials say listeria rarely shows up in produce, but this does come amid an ongoing outbreak linked to cantaloupe from a colorado farm. >> it is a bit of a puzzle for us as to where and the whole process of growing and packaging and distribution it might have been contaminated. >> so far the contamination has sickened more than 70 people in 18 states. at least 16 have died. it is the deadliest outbreak in a decade. >> it has just been pure hell. devastating, unreal. >> tammy palmer is suing, her husband clinging to life in the hospital. because listeria can take weeks, even months to make someone sick, there are fears the outbreak could get worse. >> we might still see illnesses and even fatalities for the next month up into october. >> health officials do not know ho