senator feinstein. senator feinstein: thanks very much, mr. chairman. and thank you very much for calling this hearing. i think it's a very important topic and i think it goes to one of our core values as a country. and that's religious freedom and tolerance. we pride ourselves on being a unique and diverse society. which means we have to accept many differences, different creeds, different colors, different ethnicities. that's important to the concept of america to be a united country that respects these differences. into this creeps this suspicion and creeps hate. so the topic today is religious hate crimes. and i think it doesn't matter if it's a hate crime based on one's religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, or any other element of our shared values in humanity as a country. we've got to condemn every form of it, no matter who is targeted. i believe that to the death of my being. i'm hopeful this committee can begin and continue to work on this. even as we focus on one part of it, which is religious hate today. while the federal gov

senator graham: senator feinstein. senator feinstein: i will be very brief. we have prepared for the committee and i would like to ask the staff to distribute it, a background and time line on lieutenant general michael flynn and some of the key dates involved, which may be of help to the subcommittee and i would like to take this opportunity to thank the subcommittee. chairman graham and ranking member whitehouse, you have done a good job and your whole subcommittee has and i thank you very much. i would like to make a fewments comments, if i might and put all the remarks in the record. i think it is a foregone conclusion about russia's involvement and we see it replicated even in the french election, perhaps not to the extent or in the way, but ertainly replicated. on february 9, 2017, the washington "washington post" reported that either flynn had misled the vice president or the vice president misspoken. he resigned his post. there are still many unanswered questions about general flynn, including who knew what and when. for example, the press is now repo

those members were mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, chuck grassley, chuck schumer, senator feinstein, senator graham, kevin mccarthy, nancy pelosi, and bob goodlatte. later in the evening he spoke to bob corker, chairman of the senate committee on foreign relations. in addition to all the big news happening at the white house today, it is also my daughter, scarlet's fifth birthday. since you guys are here and i'm not, my first birthday wish to her is that you guys are credibly nice. -- incredibly nice. now i will take your questions. alex? >> i have a couple of broader questions for you. yes or no, did the president direct rob rosenstein to write the letter? sec. huckabee sanders: no, the president had lost confidence in director comey and had frankly been considering letting the director go since the day he was elected. but he did have a conversation with the deputy attorney general on monday where they had come to him to express their concerns, the president has to that they put the concerns and the recommendation in writing, which is the letter that you guys ever seen. -- have received. >>

let's get more on all of this with democratic senator dianne feinstein with california. ranking member of the senate judiciary committee and member of the intelligence committee. senator, thanks for joining us. >> you're welcome, wolf. >> you have confidence in the fbi director, james comey? >> i do. in this case, it is really off the line. trs i re i read the department policy about announcing something very controversial shortly before an election. and the department's policy says not to do that. president clinton's assent into loretta lynch's plane i think was four months before. probably not at all relevant. should he have done it? probably not. but knowing him, it was on the spur of the moment and he just did it. with respect to this thing, here's the point. there was no new information in the weiner computer. what do i mean by that? there were 3,000 e-mails. 12 of which were classified. and all of which were part of the earlier investigation. so 11 days before the election, a real october surprise. the fbi director announces an investigation. why didn't he just go

quite how do you explain what -- >> how do you explain what dianne feinstein said, that the president told her that he was concerned with the fbi and the justice department? sec. huckabee sanders: i can't speak for senator feinstein, but i spoke directly to the president and heard directly from him that he had been considering letting director comey go pretty much since the day that he took office, but that there was no request by him to have a review at the department of justice. >> was the reason for the firing what was written by the deputy attorney general? is that why he did it? sec. huckabee sanders: that was the final piece. it moved the president to make that quick and decisive action. letter he wrote in forming comey that he was being fired? on three separate occasions, comey told him that i am not under investigation. were those communications the fbi director told the president he was under investigation? sec. huckabee sanders: i won't get into the specifics. going to go to the specifics of their conversation. >> he made the decision to make that public. are there concerns

senator feinstein, members of the committee. thank you for having this annual oversight hearing about the fbi. i know that sounds a little bit like someone saying they're looking forward to going to dentist, but i really do mean it. i think oversight of the fbi, of all parts of government but especially the one i'm lucky to lead is essential. the way you guard against it is having people ask hard questions and i promise you i'll give you that kind of answer today. i also appreciate the conversation i know we're going to have today and over the next few months about reauthorizing section 702 of the foreign intelligence surveillance act that you mentioned, mr. chairman. this is a tool that is essential to the safety of this country. i did not say the same thing about the collection of telephone dialing information by the nsa. that's a useful tool. 702 is an essential tool and if it goes away we will be less safe as a country. i mean that and happy to talk more about that. thank you for engaging on that so we can tell the american

i have to start with diane feinstein here a little bit.rustrated with director comey, but not enough to say he's not qualified to run the fbi. but, wow, is she upset. >> sanctimonious. you can see why there are frustrations. he treated the clinton investigation differently than the investigation into russian meddling in the election that could have impacted the trump campaign in a negative way. you hear the director talking about we were very mindful of politics. we try to make every decision separate in this vacuum that's a political, not influenced by politics. he was so hypersensitive in the election. both can't be true. he was thinking about politics. he was thinking about it today when he was folksy. he was trying to rehabilitate his own image. >> it's sort of like -- it should be a good warning to anybody that's in one of these jobs. the minute you open the door a little bit, you're never going to be able to close it again and that's what happened. he opened it in july and he's been trying to -- he's tied himself in knots. >> and he

. >> california senator dianne feinstein spoke about president trump's decision to fire james comey and made comments during a senate judiciary committee hearing on the nominations of noel francisco, and other officials. she renewed her call for an independent special prosecutor to investigate russia's interference in the u.s. election. >> normally i do not start until a ranking member or members get here. sen. grassley: in this particular instance, i can start, but i'm going to stop wherever we are when the ranking member gets here, so she can make an opening statement. good morning. i am pleased that we can hold this nomination hearing for three very well-qualified nominees to three important positions in our government. noel francisco, nominated solicitor general. he will be the first ever asian-american senate-confirmed solicitor general after confirmation. steven engel, assistant attorney general for the office of legal counsel, an office that functions as legal advisor to executive branch agencies and the president. makan delrahim, nominee to be assistant attorney general for anti

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senator feinstein joins me here in washington.y yates testimony tomorrow. but first, let's talk about health care. they passed it without reading it. but there are legitimate problems -- big problems with obamacare. the fact that some of the insurers, aetna and others are pulling out. virginia is now going to be affected. iowa doesn't have choice. don't they have a point? >> well, there is a point, yes. but i want to say something. 20 million more people are insured post the beginning of obamacare today. this bill which looks like this and is complicated to read. i have been rye thing to read it over the weekend. and this is the manager's package that has the series of amendments. this is just come over to the senate. it has no score. it's probably one of the biggest bills that the senate will ever consider. we don't know its breadth and depth as analyzed professionally. we don't know its cost as analyzed professionally. and there are a lot of major changes which are going to have a dramatic impact on the health care marketplace w

feinstein on james comey. and♪ ♪ ♪ i'm dr. be calling me an energy farmer. ♪ energy lives here. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ what we do every night is like something out of a strange dream. except that the next morning... it all makes sense. fedex powers global e-commerce... with networks built over 40 years... that are massive... far-reaching... and, yes... maybe a bit magical. ♪ visit fedex.com slash dream >>> welcome back. when fbi director comey testified before the senate judiciary committee this week, he defended his decision to announce days before the 2016 election that the bureau had discovered new clinton e-mails and had reopened its investigation. >> if i were not to speak about that it would be a disastrous, catastrophic concealment. it was incredibly painful choice, but actually not all that hard between very bad and catastrophic. i had to tell congress that we were taking these additional steps. i prayed to find a third door, i couldn't find it. >> senator dianne feinstein is not at all convinced that there was no third door. and she

i asked senator feinstein if she was making the case it was hastily written.e wasn't willing to go that far but those are among the questions that we are hearing asked today on capitol hill as they try to get to the bottom of what specifically happened. this is a real problem for the white house because of its messaging, but because you have so many republicans who are breaking ranks with the president and saying they want answers, that something doesn't seem quite right about how this was handled and the timing of when all of this came down, andrea. >> and rejoining us is michael berb losh as well. the firing, the entire sequence that kristen was describing, upsetting capitol hill. you get a sense you have leaders at the key committees, dianne feinstein, senator warner, senator burr, there is a bipartisanship emerging on the senate side. they're looking for a way to approach this and to be constructive but they are determined not to let the russia hearing, the russia investigation, be compromised. >> that's exactly right. and i think most people have said the

outside senator dianne feinstein's office at one post street in the financial district , the drumbeat of calls asking for the impeachment of president donald trump grew louder in the wake of the firing of fbi director james comey. 3000 miles away on capitol hill, senator feinstein herself spoke out on the subject. in a judiciary confirmation hearing. >> as i reflect on the decision to dismiss director comey, i become incredulous thinking about the ongoing f the eye investigation -- fbi investigation into russia's interference into the election. >> the senior senator from california spoke obliquely about two classified break-ins on the russian investigation tampering she received from then director comey on march 15 and may 3. >> i can't go into the specifics but you and i know that it was rather comprehensive for this kind of briefing. the fbi director was precise and he presented us with substantial information. it was clear the fbi was taking its job seriously and that a substantial investigation was underway. >> reporter: the senator's statements on the hill echo the calls outside

what we discovered today is that grassley as well as senator feinstein validated this. there are so many myths out there, lou, that are not reality, and i think that's what's happening with this is that people want these myths and these rumors to go away that trump somehow, president trump was in collusion with the russians or any of his top aids. lou: let me put it forward here just as straight as i possibly can. the president of the united states right now is a target. but he is a target of the largest, most expansive, venomous, disinformation campaign i have ever seen conducted against any political official, let alone any president in our history. >> this is -- yes, this is an intensification of targeting president trump when we saw it today that a number of stories yesterday were not accurate. those stories were not accurate. they were debunked by mcabe, and they were debunked by others. so i think what the president here is we've got to look at this. if the president is not under an investigation, if what they both say is true, then his firing of comey has nothing

feinstein: thank you very much, senator grassley, and i very much appreciate this courtesy. to the nominees, i want to apologize, because this is going to be a bit aside from your nominations, and also extend apology to the families as well. last night at approximately 5:30 called toident trump say he would be removing director comey from his leadership position at the fbi. president trump specifically stated that the recommendation was provided by deputy attorney general rosenstein and attorney general sessions. he said the reason was because the department is a mess. i was obviously surprised and taken aback. then when the official announcement was released, the white house provided three documents. one, a letter from the president firing director comey. two, a letter from attorney general sessions recommending comey on the basis of his personal evaluation that "a fresh start is needed at the leadership of the fbi." and three, a memo from deputy attorney general rosenstein outlining serious concerns about director comey's handling of secretary clinton's e-mail investigatio

here is senator feinstein. p.m.,ight at 5:30 president trump called saying he would remove director comey from his leadership position at the fbi. president trump specifically stated that the recommendation was provided by deputy attorney general rosenstein and attorney general sessions. he said the reason was because the department is a mess. i was obviously surprised and taken aback. the official announcement was released, the white house provided three documents. one a lttetter from the presidet firing director comey, two a letter from director sessions recommending comey be removed on the basis of his personal evaluation that "a fresh start is needed at the leadership of the fbi." deputyee, a memo from attorney general rosenstein outlining serious concerns about director comey's handling of secretary clinton's email investigation. memo, raisesa n and additional questions. why did the president make reference to the russia investigation in his letter, dismissing director comey? was the reason for his dismiss

senator feinstein has been on the intelligence committee for a long time and used to be the chairwoman. she clearly knows what is going on there. how much involvement are you having with that or how much are you kept in the loop on what they are doing? sen. grassley: i have conversations with her, what she can tell. there are some things that intelligence committee members know that other senators should not know because it is highly secret. but i am mostly attune to what i get from the news. you can say that is not a very good place to get it. i talked to some of my colleague on the committee. but most often, the thing that i would have directly that they have would be the one secure briefing that senator feinstein and i have had. that is the same thing that they would get. and we have her quest from both republicans and democrats to move forward with all of the stuff that comey told us that he cannot tell us in an open setting. we will have a secure briefing on that but we would know -- we will dovetail that in with the white house and graham subcommittee with gates and clapper there

and the democrats response with senator diane feinstein. democrats lost the house, after voting for obamacare, and what happens to those who kill it? why u.s. intel believes the russians are at it again. joining me for inside and analysis, rich lowry of the national review. christian welker, nbc news white house correspondent. and matt bai, and e liana johnson. >> this is "meet the press." >> good sunday morning. it subject often you see the passage of a bill that merely made it through the house. after their health care win, president trump, and house speaker paul ryan were happy to spike the football. even if there is a lot of green grass between them and the end zone. the house handed a bill, not read by most of those who voted for it. and counts among the winners, those with high incomes, wealthy people without pre-existing conditions. the young and large employers. oldser americans, those with pre-existing conditions, those counting on obamacare's benefits. the president as he has done so many times before, proved people wrong. >> thea

also ahead this wednesday, one-on-one with senator dianne feinstein. a key member of the intelligence committee weighs in on the state of the russia investigations. and comey's records. >> one way or another, they're going to be turned over. it's just a question of time. his documents are fundamental to the issue of his firing. >> woodruff: then, we are in rome for president trump's first meeting with the pope. plus: ♪ ♪ celebrating the intersection between music and technology. jeffrey brown takes us to a festival pushing the bounds of sound. >> there's something to be said about all music being some translation of our language and our way of communicating. it's a language. this is a new language. >> woodruff: all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the world's most pressing problems-- skollfoundation.org. >> the lemelson foundation. committed to improving l

before the confirmation hearings on capitol hill, senator feinstein also repeated her call for a special prosecutor to be named. >>> a new poll shows president trump's approval rating is nearing a record low according to quinnipiac university. 36% of those polled approve of the job he is doing. 58% disapprove. >>> the department of homeland security could expand its carry-on electronics ban. officials are expected to meet with airlines today because of a reported terror threat. currently the ban applies to people traveling from 10 airports in eight countries in the middle east and north africa. cbs news reports the ban could soon include all incoming flights from europe to the u.s. the department of homeland security spokesman tweeted: the ban went into effect.. after a suspect brought a laptop bomb onto a somali airliner last year. now, officials say: >> the ban went into effect after a suspect brought a laptop bomb on a somali airliner last year. and now officials say some terror groups are reportedly testing another bomb that could get past airport scanners. it's unclear if the depart

how >> do you explain what diane feinstein says that the president told her that he was concerned withbi -- forsanders: i cannot speak dianne feinstein, but i did speak to the president that he again had been considering sinceg director comey go the day he took office, but there was no request by him to have a review at the department of justice. >> was the reason for the firing written by the attorney general, with that why he did it? ms. sanders: i think that was the final please that moved -- moved thee that president to take action. >> he said on three separate i amsions comey told him " not under investigation." what wereinvestigation? i'm not going to get into specifics but i can tell you comey related that information to the president. has the president asked her director comey whether he was under investigation during national and >> -- >> again, i won't go

kate, people are rallying outside senator diane feinstein's office. >> reporter: that's right. senator feinstein says she is 100% opposed to the bill and it is outrageous that house republicans passed it given the fact nobody fully understands how the bill will affect americans or how much it costs. people came from all over the bay area to rally outside senator diane feinstein's san francisco office. after the house narrowly passed the gop's health care bill, president trump saying this about obama's affordable care act after today's vote. >> it's dead. it's essentially dead. >> reporter: kendrick is one of many americans concerned the new american health care act will strip protections from millions of people like he and his mother who have preexisting conditions. and until the aca was passed could not get health insurance. >> i lost my health care because of my preexisting condition. and i'm very emotional about this. my mother almost died from cancer, and it wasn't for obamacare, she wouldn't be here today. >> there is no standard definition to what a preexisting could not

>> i cannot speak for senator feinstein, but i did speak directly to the president. directly from him, i heard that he again had been pretty much since the day he took office. there was no request by him to have a review at the department of justice. >> was the reason for the firing what was written by the deputy attorney general? is that why he did it? >> i think that was the final piece that moved the president to make that quick and decisive action yesterday. >> what did he mean in the letter that he wrote informing comey that he was being fired? he said on three separate occasions comey had told him that i am not under investigation. what were those three occasions that fbi director told the president that he wasn't under investigation? >> i'm not going to get into the specifics of their conversations but i can tell you director comey relaid that information to the president. jeff >> following up on that, did the president ask director comey whether he was under investigation when they had these meetings? >> again, i'm not going into the specifics of their conver

senator feinstein and i heard nothing that contradicted the president's statement. >> yesterday the white house dismissed the fbi's russia investigation as "probably one of the smallest things they've got going." appearing before the senate intelligence committee today the acting director of the fbi andrew mccabe directly contradicted that. >> investigation in relation to all the other work you're doing. >> we consider it a highly significant investigation. >> there was talk the president might visit the fbi building tomorrow as a show of his commitment to the agency. that has been shelved for the time being. >> bret: one president trump was candidate trump, he and others talked about the tarmac meeting between then attorney general loretta lynch and former president bill clinton. >> i think what they fbi did and what the department of justice did, including meeting with her husband the attorney general in the back of an airplane on the tarmac in arizona, i think it's disgraceful. i think it's a disgrace. >> bret: lynch and clinton denied they talked about the email investigation but the

but i know he's been contemplating it for a while. >> how do you explain what dianne feinstein says, that the president told her he was concerned with the mess at the fbi and asked the justice department to look into it? >> i can't speak for senator feinstein but i did speak directly to the president, and heard directly from him that he, again, had been considering letting director comey go pretty much since the day he took office, but that -- there was no request by him to have a review at the department of justice. >> is the reason for the firing what was written by the deputy attorney general? is that why he did it? >> that was, i think, the final piece that moved the president to make that quick and decisive action yesterday. >> what did he mean, in the letter that he wrote -- informing comey he was being fired? he said, on three separate occasions comey had told him that i am not under investigation. what were those three occasions that the fbi director told the president he wasn't under investigation? i'm not going to get into the specifics of their conversations, but i can tel

today senator dianne feinstein is saying at a minimum comey firing -- >> four months ago every democrat would tell you they lost trust with comey. >> reporter: while outside senator feinstein's demonstration office, they protested comey's firing. >> reporter: janet reno made a report about fbi director and he decided to change the fib. >>> and this comes whether mr. trufmr. mr. trump's associates colluded with russia. kamala harris we cannot wait any longer to have a special investigation. >>> the committees are in the senate, the house. this doesn't effect anything about it. >> reporter: mr. comey has been invited to testify before the senate intelligence committee in front of closed session. well, nbc news has learned there's a man with strong connections on the left. graduated from san francisco state, got a law degree in pleasant hill, even worked for the d.a.'s office, a possibility. >> terry, thank you. this is a pivotal time for the trump administration. president trump's former national security advisor has been subpoenaed. this is a live look at the capitol where they demanded

grassley: senator feinstein? feinstein: i have one question regarding my opening comment. i view it as a most important question and i hope you will answer it. why was it necessary to announce 11 days before a presidential election that you are opening an investigation on a new computer without any knowledge of what was in that computer? why didn't you just do the investigation as you would normally, with no public announcement? dir. comey: great question, senator. thank you. october 27, the investigative team that finished the investigation in july focused on secretary clinton's emails asked to meet with me. i know them at late morning in my conference room. >> but they weren't there? >> can i finish my answer? there were thousands of females, including many from the clinton blackberry domain. they said we think we need to get a search warrant. the department of justice agreed. i authorize the search warrant and faced the choice. i have lived my entire career by the tradition that if you can avoid it come you avoid any action in the run-up to an election. i sat there up t

rob: we did play dianne feinstein, have you seen evidence of this?ouldn't get a good answer out. some tough questions goes to the soundbite. democrats don't have a lot but are hoping for some evidence. heather: i know there is something there. what is there? it is just something, people don't know what it is. rob: donald trump thought the decision to fire comey would be something everyone would like. >> director comey was very unpopular with most people. i actually thought when i made that decision, i made a very strong recommendation from deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, when i made that decision i thought it would be a bipartisan decision. >> scathing along the middle, honest and authentic, what they said is they like to hear directly from the president what he was thinking so sharing this insight, i thought this was a bipartisan thing, did resonate with them and pull them over but democrats just aren't buying anything sitting down. this is really extreme right now, almost nothing he can say to win them over. rob: you can't even have a conve

senators feinstein, or grassley, then feinstein talked about that in a round about way, and senator warnersked about it today. take a listen. >> on tuesday the president's letter said that director comey told him he was not under investigation. senator feinstein and i heard nothing that contradicted the president's statement. >> i very much appreciate what you said, and it's very accurate, and we were briefed. >> did comey ever tell you as he apparently told senators grassley and feinstein that i'm not -- >> i'm not going to get into the specifics of what director comey has talked with me about. >> if you had been told he is not a target of the investigation for the good of the country, shouldn't you tell us this? >> i believe for the good of the country it's important they keep classified information classified. bret: what to you think about that? >> well, you know, we've known for a long time that there's a lot of smoke here. there's never been any evidence of fire, but we know that president trump has, from the beginning of this investigation, even when it wasn't officially announced la

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this is sky fox over senator diane feinstein's office in san francisco. we have live team coverage tonight and reaction from california lawmakers. we are in oakland where another protest is taking place, first we go to the nation's capitol and lauren. >> reporter: good evening, the white house is pushing back hard on the idea that former fbi director james comey was let go because of the russia investigation, they are saying that the president lost confidence in a man many on both sides of the political aisle wanted to see gone. >> he was not doing a good job. >> reporter: today president donald trump offered little insight into his decision to fire former fbi director james comey, the optics of sitting next to henny kissinger seemed a strange choice to some considering the comparisons to water gate. >> you will hear calls for a new investigation. >> reporter: the democrats on the senate floor this morning made a plea to ron rosenstein to appoint a special prosecutor which would take the investigation out of reach of the executive branch. >> the special p

diane feinstein last week walked the line. frankly, democrats would have been more -- over the last two weeks, would have called for his resignation if they felt comfortable that donald trump would appoint somebody that they thought they would feel comfortable with at the fbi. so that is -- you thought comey's job was safe because politically no one felt comfortable calling for his removal because of where he was at that moment. but now, look, it's clear, president trump did this in a way that was a bit -- i would say harried is -- he knew -- it was something he wanted to do. it was something he's been thinking about a while. i don't think he sought a lot of internal advice. >> yeah, i was going to say a lot of folks were walking and shell shocked yesterday. >> if you've spent time talking with donald trump the last week, whether a reporter or a supporter and you talk to folks, he's been pondering this in the way he does those things. but i don't think staff took it as seriously perhaps as suddenly there it went. >> now, a mor

dianne feinstein not having any of that. judge napolitano, your initial thoughts on that? >> i have harshly criticized director comey notwithstanding what was a stellar reputation both for respecting the constitution and for enforcing federal law. not easy to have a reputation good in both of those camps prior to the involvement with mrs. clinton but i obviously agree on sentiment that two of you have been expressing and on senator feinstein's argument. regulations of the department of justice could not be clearer and regulations of the federal bureau of investigation could not be clearer. if he had this dilemma he just testified about, one door says reveal and the other door says conceal, he should have remained silent. or, he could have informed congress in a classified setting rather than in a public way. now that we know, of course we have hindsight -- charles: sure, sure. >> this goes to your question. why did you do anything before you knew what was in the laptop? look and see what is in there? turned out what was in i