i mean, what's controversial about that child marriage, fgm, throwing gay people off buildings? think they're valid, are they? >> i mean, i think i share her sentiments here. i think it's incredible that people feel offended about that. you know, culture in germany in the 1930s wasn't valid when it sort of terrorising jewish people. i mean, it's obvious that cultures evolve and hopefully for the better . you rarely see cultures better. you rarely see cultures trying to regress and going back to the days of like child sacrifice, for example. but i think, i think the, the, the fact that the optics of that was quite interesting that you have this black british woman explaining that to a white female journalist and on some level you were thinking, okay, if i were, if i was in issues, you're a woman. there are some cultures that would have forced you to get married at 15. is that a culture that you would think is valid? i mean, i think the optics of that was quite interesting because you wouldn't expect for her to ask such a naive question, like, what do you mean by that? >> that spe