open prisons in finland are like a holiday camp, but they seem to work. what is holiday camp like with the prisoners that you've, what tempe, why would people say that and, and why does finland have a different approach to incarcerating prisoners? a. so in sin and we have sort of bulls are close to prisons and the so called open prisms. so the idea is that once the prisoner has been in the close prison and has gotten rehabilitation, ah, he or she is ready to inter mall open prison environment. and it's very important to go in this way, step by step closer to the norm of society, to the practices and activities of the normal society. so in open prison, prisoners can study and work outside of the prison and they come back to the prison at then in the evening. so, but during the day time, they are supposed to participate in activities outside the prison, the i'm, i'm going to give, outweigh, as an example of what that looks like. so this video comes from finance, criminal sanctions agency. and what you see here is a prison has an appointment at i see no boss

and we see that the leaders of finland and sweden are aware of all of that for a mattress and aspects of cloth you through the situation. and we are sure that their contribution will remain resolute, splitting place that i did. ok, saying shackleton from a good afternoon, good sputnik agency, mr. oliver, on the 10th of january, the new york times reported to promise that there had over the battery, the e. u. diplomacy issues that beryl has sent a letter in was deal it's obstinate today. heads of the you policy that has like europe, needs to come up with its own security proposals and he supported a direct dialogue with you personally. so a few brief questions. have you received a letter that we got for that? i and our is russia prepared? it a to awesome is a past, this is conduct a direct dialogue on security with the e you separate from nato and the u. s. and how could you comment on the statement made by just that barrel? boy bogan, over the last 2 days with regards to the outcomes are happening, go, she, shes back on security between russia, the u. s. and nato. and then do you beli

if they work closely with them and finland and sweden our closest partners we work together and we haveability of forces and we can operate together, even though finland and sweden are not nato members and i spoke recently with the finnish president and with the swedish prime minister and they convey that clear the message they're not applying for message, but for them it's acceptable while russia now demands that nato should close the door forever or every potential member because then finlands and sweden lose the freedom at a later stage to choose nato membership if they want. this is the sovereign right for every nation. if they decide to apply and that's 100% finnish and swedish decision, then i think it's possible to make a decision very quickly and for them to join quickly. at the end of the day, this has to be a political decision, but when you see the high level of interoperability between nato and finlands and sweden, when you see to what degree they already meet nato standards, it should be possible to allow them into our alliance quite quickly. >> we have time for just one mo

that's a popular summertime delicacy in finland. but big nylon nets like these pose a danger to seal pups which easily get tangled up in them to protect them when they are very small. there's a moratorium on fishing with nets between april and june every year. but in summer time, the ban is lifted because thousands of tourists, one to go fishing. environmental activists have launched a public awareness campaign, encouraging people to take an interest in the seals welfare. these fishing enthusiasts are signing a pledge that they will cease fishing with nance. in return they're given fish traps they've been designed so as not to pose a threat to the seal pups. amy said, are we thinking more about well, there's a very strong desire among people across finland and in sinai, especially to protect the ceiling. and as the amount of information has increased, in recent years, more people know about it to the been a lot been and there's only a ha line place as well. but that is also meant that more people want to come to the region to see th

tom: we will speak to finland's foreign minister. pekka haavisto, finding themselves in the center of tensions with ukraine. francine: later we will speak with the blackrock vice-chairman . will get his view on central banks. he will have some great thoughts on that. this is bloomberg. ♪ francine: welcome back. it will not be a dealt markets today. it not feel like we have had a dole market stay for quite a long time. this is as traders say that the fed could are -- up for a supersize rate hike. that is filtering through some of the european stocks. overall, unchanged. we look out for tech stocks. the rising yields could hurt that sector even further. tom: the key market story. russia and that ukraine. finland has been dragged into the ongoing tensions. president biden discuss the troop buildup there ukraine with the country's president this week. the finish leader mentioned the need for closer union. he said "the ultimatums russia gave to that u.s. and nato... are in conflict with the order." it has reignited the debate on whether t

a trip to finland wouldn't _ life, at least here.ithout going to a sauna and it's here where it becomes apparent why ava chooses to live somewhere so rural. she has figured out the conundrum that asks citydwellers have been mulling overfor years. how to stop time. been mulling over for years. how to stop time.— been mulling over for years. how to stop time. when we're sittin: in how to stop time. when we're sitting in a _ how to stop time. when we're sitting in a 100 _ how to stop time. when we're sitting in a 100 years - how to stop time. when we're sitting in a 100 years old i sitting in a 100 years old sauna, it is going to be a memory that we are going to remember like all our lives. i remember like all our lives. i remember every time i have been into this sauna and i remember every adventure that i've had in these fields around us. i even remember the walks that we have with our dog and sometimes of course i might have a little memory of that with my camera. i remember all the things that i remember all the things that i saw, a

before i head back to london, there is one more memory i want to make here in finland.use, but like in the old story, what i've learned from my trip is to slow down and to find peace in a busy world. i've been wanting to do a snow angel all day. and i'm told that this is the traditional finnish way. here we go! oh my god! ok, that's a memory i definitely won't forget! oh my god, it actually feels really nice. coming up next week: we are with one woman emerging from a hard lockdown as she battles her own anxiety on the road. this is it, i've made it to the mediterranean sea. i've been waiting for this feeling for so long, it feels like forever. unbelievable. and find out the tips, tricks and long—term solutions to make your travels a lot calmer. don't forget, you can catch up with more of our recent trips on the bbc iplayer. and we're on social media too. just search bbc travel show on facebook and instagram. but for now, from all of us here in tokyo, it's goodbye. the normal pattern of january temperatures was turned upside down on saturday, 12 degrees in northern scotl

annmarie: what comes to mind for me is finland.t north of estonia, we spent time there together in helsinki during the trump-putin summit. if you remember, finland in 2014, there was a lot of debate within the country following the annexation of crimea. should finland finally make the plunge and join nato? this is something president vladimir putin categorically does not want. the president, interestingly enough, mentioned finland in eight recent press conference, and what did finland do following this escalation at the end of last year on the border of ukraine? in the new year's address, he says we maintain the option to join nato when we want to. right now in helsinki, there's a lot of support for that given the measures and the aggressiveness russia is taking, and not just on the border of ukraine. we are talking about russia talking about wargames in belarus, as well as off the coast of ireland. lisa: first several years we have been talking about the u.s. taking a more isolationist and nationalist approach. right now, presiden

but in finland and russia. and that is why there is a perception amongst all the analysts that we've been talking to about this story. over the past couple of weeks here on al jazeera, that russia has been quietly, almost off the radar, growling at the governor in helsinki and in sweden. because finland and sweden, who all ready, cher, defense planning and defense strategy, have been signaling to nato that they would be quite interested in joining nature. which would be a highly significant step for those 2 governments, ukrainian soldiers and citizens living near the border in the east of the country have welcomed america's support. they say it strengthens their position and that any u. s. intervention could ease tensions for ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha much. so i think now when we're faced with this really tense situation, this visit of foreign guests is very important for our country. it shows that we're not alone, that we have support. and in the case of threat, we can count on our for

i spoke with the prime minister of finland and we were talking about concern on the part of finland and sweden on what russia is doing. the last thing they need is for finland to say they will change the status. i didn't say they were going to do that but they are talking about what's going on and how outrageous russia is being. we are finding ourselves in the position where i believe you are seeing there will be severe economic consequences. for example, anything involving dollar denominations, if they invade, they are going to pay. their banks will not be able to deal in dollars. a lot's going to happen. but here's the thing. how can we say this, we have no problem understanding one another. he has no problem understanding me or me him. the direct conversation was, i pointed out. i said you have occupied before, other countries. but the price has been extremely high. how long? you can go in at great costs over time, economic loss, go in and occupy you rain. but how many years? 1, 3, 5, 10? what, what is that going to take? the toll, what toll is a going to take? this isn't just a cake

we've also had in the last few days that possibly finland and sweden are open. now to negotiations if joining also why is this such a red flag for russia? now, the question of sweden and finland is not as stark as it might seem to have at 1st glance. in fact, both countries have memorandums of understanding with nato, which makes them a very close to natal members. they are prepared to provide their territory and their material and men in support of any activity that nato takes. ah, in the, in the theatre, meaning activity against russia. so the m, the formal accession of these countries to nato, would not change much in the military sense. and i'd say there's a parallel here between what's been discussed about about sweden and finland, and what is going on from the russian perspective on the territory of ukraine. and none of these countries is a member of nato. however, defacto, the nato has been seeking to obtain the um, the military advantages by putting men and material and training in place in these countries. all with the intent of weakening rushes, strate

finland and sweden are our closest partners. we can operate together, even though they are not nato members. i spoke with the swedish prime minister and then made it clear they are not applying for membership but for them it is absolutely unacceptable what russia now demands that nato should close the door forever for every potential member. the freedom to choose nato membership if they so want. every nation can choose its own path. if they decide to apply, then i think it is possible to make a decision quickly and for them to join quickly. at the end of the day, this has to be a political decision, but when you see the high level between -- when you see to the degree the nato standards, it should be possible to allow them into our alliance quite quickly. >> we have time for just one more question. there is speculation that russia will disrupt the olympics in china. can you explain how nato sees the relationship between russia and china? >> first of all, we have intelligence about what is going up in ukraine. we also see the tra

you ha, cocaine and is considered the architects of finland. new housing policy, hisco got from a be changed the whole system on homelessness in independent by hitting a goal that we want to end to long term homelessness, the growing homelessness 1st. and to do that, we need to start providing permanent housing. and we started the national policy that we called the housing 1st. we have had several common elements and all have a crate to continue to work towards ending homelessness because we see it asher. human rights. you saw housing 1st is the success in finland. it's helped 4 out of 5 . people find their way back to a more structured life to the fins. this is a sustainable investment. since is no longer a need to finance comprehensive housing assistance, the country saves $15000.00 euros annually per homeless person. former emergency shelter, such as this one have been converted to housing. some of the money issue, it's always cheaper to provide ferment, follow forth, permanent coaching than to keep people to manage. try commanded formulas i

you saw housing 1st is the success in finland. it's helped 4 out of 5 . people find their way back to a more structured life to the fins. this is a sustainable investment. since is no longer a need to finance comprehensive housing assistance, the country saves $15000.00 euros annually per homeless person for emergency shelter such as this one have been converted to housing from the money issue. it's almost cheaper to provide berman, fellows of permanent coaching than to keep people to manage. cry commanded formula 5th by providing only on liquor, temporary accommodation in felt of had host gulf. so basically, i think that the big, big question is, is the political oil in germany, it's difficult to get into a housing 1st program, chiefly because of the shortage of flats. so far, only a few 100 people nationwide have been able to assign a tenancy agreement in cologne to have been 5 so far, the 6 person was housed by the city in this rundown hotel for the past 2 months to residence, sharing 12 square meters. now joe was moving out a cologne, non profit has f

let me stress _ to sweden, finland and nato. let me stress how— to sweden, finland and nato.irm. european and trans—atlantic unity is key. partners have made it clear to russia _ key. partners have made it clear to russia there is no place for an armed — russia there is no place for an armed conflict in europe and that any further acts of aggression would be met— any further acts of aggression would be met with massive consequences. sweden _ be met with massive consequences. sweden has had intense contacts with us and _ sweden has had intense contacts with us and european colleagues within the eu _ us and european colleagues within the eu and with nato on this issue. many— the eu and with nato on this issue. many visit— the eu and with nato on this issue. many visit here today is one such opportunity to share information and discuss _ opportunity to share information and discuss the _ opportunity to share information and discuss the current very serious situation — discuss the current very serious situation i_ discuss the current very serious situation. i want to thank the se

. >> you said today that nato's door is open for finland and sweden.ey decide to join nato, is that going to cause more concerns for russia? >> well, the main message is that it is a right for every nation to choose their own path. whether they want to be part of a alliance nato or not. we expect finland and sweden when they decide not to apply for membership, but if they decide to ask for membership, then it's for sweden and finland and the third nato allies to decide. it's not something russia can veto or ask for a guarantee that these countries will never join nato. and, of course, it's not against nato. the enlargement of nato the last decades have helped to spread democracy, freedom across europe in a way we have not seen before in history. and what we still believe in is the right for every nation to decide itself. >> ukraine is advocating the u.s. and eu impose sanctions on russia before russia invades just because of the troop deployment there, the amassing of troops. given moscow has not withdrawn despite the warnings, why wait and not impose

you also can, can cut off access to finland, a partner of nato. so this is a really crucial geo strategic location. and so i thought i needed to go to got, lend the swedish island and see for myself just tell vulnerable. it might be in normal times, the only large groups of foreigners coming to got land or the $1000000.00 tourists who flocked to the swedish island every year. but now the swedish government is preparing for the possibility of unwelcome visitors as russian president vladimir putin's military maneuvers spread concern far beyond ukraine. we cannot exclude an armed attack against sweden. and what we want to do, yas, now is to be very clear that we are ready to turn sweden and the course of that. we are also doing what for doing owned island. mclaughlin. kirkland is a do strategic prize jewel in the baltic sea, a central for nato's access to its baltic allies and its swedish and finish partners. from this island you cannot control both of the air and sea waste in the region. garland was a key military asset for sweden, for centuries, un

feeling a strain, you know, although finland shares a huge border and, and sweden has an island not far from kalynne and grad. they're not normally. countries that feel rattled by this, but this build up on the border with ukraine has really shaken countries far beyond ukraine. and that's why i decided to go to the swedish island of gauntlet, which is in a really geo strategic position from got lind. if you were to seize that island, you would be able to control the air space. you would be able to control the waterways leading to the baltic states, and that's why the swedish government has begun reinforcing with military units that island. let's take a look at what i found in normal times, the only large groups of foreigners coming to got land, or the $1000000.00 tourists who flocked to the swedish island every year. but now the swedish government is preparing for the possibility of unwelcome visitors as russian president vladimir putin's military maneuvers spread concern far beyond ukraine. we cannot exclude an armed attack against sweden. and what we want to do, yas, now is to be

he's bringing countries like finland and sweden -- there's a joke in finland where they say they're oneoining nato. you know, because they make all their decisions in saunas. but it's always easy to make it out like the dictator is somehow some kind of a mastermind. look, he's calculated the odds. he's pushing. we're pushing back. it's not so clear to me that he's going to win this at all. and at the end of the day biden is balancing between being tough and finding some off-ramp. to just say we're going to go to war guns blazing and to be sure that that's the right solution, you know, we've tried stuff like that in iraq and afghanistan. it didn't work out so well. and i think it's worth having a slightly more nuanced, slightly more sophisticated policy that the biden people are having. and it's plenty tough. they have supported the ukrainians more than any previous administration has done. but they're also trying to see if there's a way to resolve this crisis without a showdown and with some kind of diplomatic off-ramp. >> yeah. nuanced and sophisticated, that is new with this administr

we'll game the process with finland and see how he reacts.o, the way he's gone about this? >> reporter: it's definitely one of the most ironic parts of all of this. basically russia has fallen into this standard play. the talking point is set at the top. everyone down below has to go out and keep repeating the message. stay on message, keep hitting the message. this is all in their minds, what they're telling the russian public. this is all western provocation. everything going on now is all part of a grand u.s. conspiracy against russia. probably finland and sweden, if they joined nato, it would be explained to the russian people in the same way. russia has a bias as it approaches the situation. it simply assumes that everyone west of russia is somehow completely under u.s. control. that's just how they see it. so that's why they want to talk directly to the u.s. they don't really want to talk to anyone else. it's very much a bilateral game in their minds. >> i'm sure the u.s. is trying to figure out how they control as much of europe as rus

we had the example of finland ization of finland. i mean, these are not new ideas. charles and everybody could win. why don't not? they can't, can't they even conceive of this? because he's at a called appeasement. it's munich all over again. why are they stuck in this mind? said go ahead. charles. on eli long, i alluded to this. hopefully. the fact that behind the scenes negotiation to taking place that a lot of this is in public, which as we've discussed, is one of the main problems here because it encourages brinkman's ship and also means that people attend to repeat themselves and see a cone is that funded and the funding difficult to extricate themselves from this and this is particularly so on the west side, when we say largely because as we've discussed the road of the mainstream media and in exacerbating those tensions. but really, i think the public comes where people then put forward positions publicly, that then become red lines that can't be negotiated away. because often women to negotiation people are always going to put forward. presumably more than t

you could see a very quick move where finland and sweden say, and they have threatened this, you theato. so this is one of these stories where i say it about the middle east, what's really important what happens the morning after, the morning after he goes in, you know, they all celebrate. everyone says biden is an idiot. the morning after the morning after, he could have some real problem there is. this is the center of europe. >> sweden and finland is watching this, china is also watching, as is taiwan. >> no question, they're watching how we respond to this. look, i appreciate it, the american people, we have threat fatigue. we're just exhausted. i've been watching your show, and i am worried about american democracy right now. then you have to worry about taiwan and ukraine. there's only so much. but at the same time, you know, these countries, they're not welcome. taiwan does not want to be part of china. ukraine does not want to be part of russia. it wants to be part of the european union. i don't see this as a cake walk for putin at all. he's not going to get killed by social

>> well, if finland and sweden want to join nato, there is little doubt that nato -- the instrument he'sn to try to get what he wants, a threat of a military invasion in europe is likely to strengthen nato, to make it more likely that nato is -- gets closer to the borders, has more military equipment there and bring in more members, finland and sweden, and perhaps break the debt log even on the question of whether ukraine at some point should be a member of nato, which at the moment nato is divided on, but if russia acts in the way that it is threatening to act, even that question comes on the table. so the very thing he's trying to avoid may come about by the action he's taking and i hope he thinks about those consequences before deciding to take military action against ukraine. >> except i would say this a dark way at least what he's gaining is the attention of the world, and a time when at least the united states had been hoping to move to other areas, particularly to china. ambassador, thank you for your expertise. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> sobering read there. coming up,

we had the example of finland ization of finland. i mean that these are not new ideas. charles and everybody could win. why don't not? they can't, can't they even conceive of this? because his ada called appeasement. it's munich all over again. why are they stuck in this mind? said, go ahead charles on it on i looted to this. hopefully, the fact that behind the scenes negotiation to taking place it, a lot of this is in public, which as we've discussed is one of the main problems here because it encourages brinkman's ship. and also means that people tend to paint themselves into a colon. is that funded and funded difficult to extricate themselves from this, and this is particular so on the west side, when we say largely because as we discussed the road of the mainstream media and in exacerbating those tensions. but really, i think the problem comes where people then put forward positions publicly that and then become red line. santa can't be negotiated away because after when we're in a negotiation, people are always going to put forward presumably more than they might e

i mentioned finland and norway has never contemplated charging the euro and partly because it's economy is so different, so dependent on oil and it's neat so, so, so different give island is an example of a country that was overheating in 2006, 2017 would have tightened monetary policy raced interest rates, depreciates currency, it still had a currency, but it had to put up with the currency the, with the interest rate that was shut in frankfurt. and conversely, after 2010, ireland, you did it in a lower interest rate. but couldn't, couldn't have it. so, kennedy illustrates and not just for greece. the thing is that the freedom to, to set your monetary policy that countries gave out, was there a points in the run up stay economic bubble bursting o 8 into 9. and that economic convulsion, that we're now discussing, run about 20102011, where the euro could really have taken on the u. s. dollar. and would now be better place to take on the coming economy and the currency of china because that's a thing around the corner. next 3 full 5 years or so. if gordon brown, who was then chancellor at

i spoke with the prime minister of finland. we are talking about concern on the part of finland and sweden about what russia is doing. the last thing that russia needs is finland deciding to change its status. they didn't say they're going to do that, but they're talking about what, in fact, is going on and how outrageous russia is being. we're finding ourselves in a position where i believe you'll see that there will be severe economic consequences. for example, anything that involves dollar denominations if they invade, they're going to pay. they're not -- their banks will not be able to deal in dollars. so there's a lot going to happen. here's the thing. my conversation with putin, and we've been -- how can we say it. we have no problem understanding one another. no problem understanding me. nor me him. and the direct conversations were, i pointed out, i said you've occupied before other countries but the price has been extremely high. how long? you can go in and over time at great loss and economic loss go in and occupy ukr

don't hold it in london, finland, unsweetened or not, needs to members. and they have always walked a careful line between the alliance and russia. but that could be about to change. joining us now from kiev is petro macowski, a senior fellow at the democratic initiatives foundation petro macowski, are welcome to the news. how much of a departure is this for helsinki and stock home to move away apparently, from their settled positions, positions they've maintained since what? 19461947 ish. well, just recently, the top military commanders handed you for us on security demands. met in the rest and balls to the russian pressure that would destroy the foundation of the swedish national defense and security. and that would change, that would change that would influence the swedish calculation and swedish military operations. and would force sweden to increase the banding military attendant and in greece military capabilities in order to defend herself against possible rush on at the same reasons, the same concert also waste in a different manner in a political