so was that the reason that he was trying to bring firemen in? we don't know. it is still the early stages. hopefully right now they're able to get the negotiators in place to try to talk to him. but there again, you have firefighters that deal with folks who are under stress every single day. and, you know, they're inside there and trying to create a rapport. we don't know what is going on inside there. very, very tenuous situation right now in the early staged. >> all right. i want to add tom fuentes into the conversation. what is your assessment of the situation right now? this hasn't been going on that long but it's been a couple hours now. is it getting more and more dangerous for the firefighters every minute this is not resolved? >> normally the longer it goes, the safer it is based in this period of time. it means the situation is stable and whatever was going on in the mind of the hostagetaker. the gives the authorities time to assess and try to establish and enhance the communications with them and find out what's behind this. what are the motivations

all four firemen are in good condition.inor injuries from some of the explosive devices used in this operation. the man holding the gun on them was killed in the operation. we don't know if he was shot by officers or if he took his own life. but he also exchanged fire, shooting one of the officers in the hand. that is not a life-threatening injury. i spoke to someone who lives in this neighborhood, someone who actually knew that man who lived in the house. we're not releasing his name at this point, because the officials are not doing so either. he was saying that he lived there by himself, that the house was in bad shape, it was very dirty inside. he said there was a lot of junk in the yard and he knew this because he cut the man's grass for three years. he said, though, in spite of the problems he seemed to be having, he never expected anything like this to happen. anderson? >> david, thanks very much. very busy nice. isha is here with the 360 news and business bulletin. >> reporter: at least people were injured in strong

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but you attached not a formula but the death of a firemen vs. the death of a top wall streeter has nothing to do with how you view either but the earning potential that was robbed from the death of both, and the broker presumably, or his relatives, loved ones, would get more than the firemen. that got you in a lot of heat because it was not even steven across the board. >> that's because, you'll recall in the 9/11 fund, anybody who took public taxpayer money had to waive their right to go to court. so you had to pay the stockbroker more than the firemen or the bus boy. boston is quite different. boston, like aurora and like virginia tech, is a gift. it's found momentum. it's not money that requires any release of lawsuits or any precondition or restriction. so, it's likely that all lives are equal. they were in aurora and virginia tech in terms of death. >> neil: what if -- i seem contracts so forgive me. if some of the victims of the case in boston, some are richer than others, do you still say to those four victims, including the m.i.t. police

and i don't know about you guys have good firemen like us, but our firemen like to kick the crap out of people that do things like that. they've helped me a lot. they actually chased this kid down, got him arrested for the criminal damage on the firehouse, but for some unknown reason we didn't get a call out on it. when i get something like that, i know who he is. i put a file stop on him. for some reason they didn't call me so i didn't get to interview him that day. i had to find them again. once he was released from jail he he was back out tagging again. his tags started moving north and west of our valley. where is he going? so, then, using facebook i found out where his girlfriend was and she lives in glendale. so, they take pictures and it goes on facebook and you do the longitude-latitude and you can get kind of close to where it was. well, just so happened that he tagged at 27th avenue in glendale, right on the glendale and phoenix border, we start today set up on him and found out where his girlfriend lived. we sat on the house and caught him, okay. after we arrested mod, bro

firemen, fire trucks, police cars, filled the town. >> and they -- what did you hear? and what did you smell? tell me about the senses. >> just the smell just -- you know, that ammonia. it was fertilizer. you could smell that in the air. black smoke. and a horrible scene. >> an eyewitness account there. you saw his t-shirt. it looked to be bloodied. at least based on the pictures we saw there, or soiled in some fashion. that from hours earlier. hour six has been mentioned. post the explosion in texas. at the moment, we have no confirmed number of injuries or f fatalities. but we have confirmed reports there are fatalities and injuries. we'll talk about that as they determine -- the amount of damage there in the town of west, in texas. just about 20 miles right outside there of waco. we'll also get an understanding of what local authorities are doing at this moment. we had a report about 45 minutes ago. we'll update you on msnbc on this breaking news, coming out of texas. that's easy to digest so you can fully enjoy the dairy you love. lactaid®. for 25 years, easy to di

firemen have to walk on these. >> more firemen have been killed because of building collapses than ever documented before. there are buildings engineered strong under normal conditions. add the fire component to it, and the fire -- the line is for a firefighter, the building is your enemy. know your enemy. if you know how it is put together you know how it will come apart. now you add this product -- >> a new unknown. i am not saying this is going to effect the building, but what is the offgassing right now. >> i read the test reports. there are issues. we have to look at the issues together. >> the second building finally caught. the material is available. it is not, i believe intended to be used as an exterior -- you have to overpaint it because it doesn't have a uv protective barrier in it yet. if you put it up and overpaint it or put it between two buildings where there is no sunshining, it is okay. here is the guy that invented this stuff. this is a dramatic exhibition, are you satisfied. >> if we had more wind the other building would have flashed over sooner. it is still, to see

thus, we have not been able to locate those firemen yet. >> reporter: how many firemen? >> five from the west volunteer fire department, another one dom the dallas fire department that was just helping out, and a couple of other ones. >> reporter: and how many civilians missing? >> we don't know just yet. we're getting them spotted now. what we've been doing for the last 24 hours is clearing out the stuff, searching and rescuing and now recovering, trying to find the bodies and trying to find the fatalities. >> reporter: have you absorbed any of this? >> no. i have lost this very, vvery good friends. >> reporter: the mayor says he would like to help some residents back into their homes tomorrow but the decision will be up to the bureau of alcohol, tabacco, and firearms, which is investigating. >> pelley: a long way to go, manuel, thank you very much. the families of sandy hook victims vow to keep fighting for onugher gun laws. and boston shows its courage and compassion when the cbs evening news continues. who's that? that there's the guy who gets his salsa from new york

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what the firemen do.said that, when you read in your local newspaper that in your state, california, firemen retire in their 40s making between a hundred and $# -- $2 # 00,000 a year, and you struggle to make ends meet, that's a tough pill to swallow. liz: thank you for your time, appreciate it. next up, you're making money, fannie, may we have the money back? the judge on why after rebailed it out, fannie may is taking the taxpayer money and running. welcome to the new new york state. what's the "new" in the new new? a new property tax cap... and the lowest middle class income tax rate in 60 years... and a billion dollars in tax breaks and incentives. new opportunities for business. over 250,000 new private sector jobs were created over the last two years. and 17 straight months of job growth. with the most private sector jobs ever. lower taxes, new incentives, new jobs, now that's news. to grow or start your business in the new new york visit thenewny.com if you have high cholesterol, here's some inform

people have been coming to us, telling us stories of the incredible bravery, volunteer firemen, volunteer ems personnel who went to the blast, went to do whatever they could. in a minute i'm going to talk to a paramedic who is on his way to recover bodies of his friends just minutes ago. he'll tell you it to you himself as he wants to. there's a lot to talk about tonight. this is a town in mourning and supporting one another. first, let's see how we got to this terrible point. 7:29 p.m., first reports of a fire. the flames are visible for miles away and the plant burns for 20 minutes before this. >> it like picked you up, it took your breath away, and it dropped you and exploded everything around you. gusts of wind. it was like a suction and then just blew it all out. >> this man and his two young daughters are 300 yards from the plant when he stops to take video of the flames. >> dad? i can't hear. get out of here. get out of here. >> the father and his girls are unharmed. the explosion is so powerful it registers as a 2.1 magnitude event, the rumblings felt as far as 50 miles away. >> f

what the firemen do.id that, when you read in your local newspaper that in your state, california, firemen retire in their 40s making between a hundred and $# -- $2 # 00,000 a year, and you struggle to make ends meet, that's a tough pill to swallow. liz: thank you for your time, appreciate it. next up, you're making money, fannie, may we have the money back? the judge on why after rebailed it out, fannie may is taking the taxpayer money and running. liz: bailed it out, and now it is making out. fannie mae with the biggest profit in history last year, and this is the same company that taxpayers bailed out to the tune of $116 billion. it still owes u.s. taxpayers 81 billion of the sum. the judge says good luck getting the money back. judge, you don't think we'll get it back? >> the taxpayers absorbed the losses from fannie and freddie, and taxpayers enjoy the profits. if you combine the two of them, the number is larger, close to $200 billion that the federal government invested in these, the investment con

it all started when the firemen were responding to what appeared to be a routine medical call. >> itbeing hailed as a breakthrough: two u-s senators -- a democrat and a republican -- announced a compromise that could possibly lead to expanded background checks on gun purchases. but, as joe johns reports, critics of the deal say, it fails to address the core issues of gun violence. a debate continues over how to prevent the mentally ill. who are dangerous, from getting access to guns. the latest gun control proposal in the senate. does not change the legal standard for red- flagging dangerous people who are mentally ill and seeking to purchase a gun. the u-s and its allies are bracing for a north korean missle test launch. that's the assessment of the north korea threats. from u-s defense secretary chuck hagel. south korean officials now say, the north has finished preparations for a test launch. the missile in question is an untested weapon. it is believed it could reach as far as guam - which is home to u-s naval and air bases. secretary hagel said today, north korea is quote - 'ska

recognize all of these special elements that come together modernization, this brand new station, and the firemen and women who will be here and take care of this city as you always have. thank you for making this happen. appreciate it. [ applause ] >> thank you, mr. mayor for your leadership and unwavering support. the next speaker has also been very supportive. our district supervisor, jane kim. [ applause ] >> the mayor said it but i think we have a ribbon cutting almost twice a day now in district 6. this is an exciting one. the first constructed fire station in san francisco since 1950. it's pretty amazing considering when the fact that the mayor brought up is the busiest station in san francisco. in my time at the distribution, unfortunately i got to know a lot about the fire department. we have had 13 working fires, several which were very significant and displaced or injured our residents. i learned how hard the fire department works, how important their speedy response is in terms of saving lives and of course our possessions but also how they build relationships with their constituents

firemen put out fires, homeless people are crazy, and you feel strongly about everything.specially gay marriage. you used to. [laughter] >> if you ok gay marriage, then you have to do plural marriage. you would let everybody get married who want to get married. you want to marry a turtle, you can. anybody could have gotten married. you could have married a duck. and 10 years, this is gonna be a totally different country than it is right now. laws that you think are in stone -- they're gonna evaporate, man. you'll be able to marry a goat. you mark my words! >> stephen: i did mark your words! i recorded them. [laughter] and bill has very strong feelings about other peoples opinions of gay marriage. this is what he said about clinton signing the defense of marriage act in '96 but coming out in favor of gay marriage now. >> when he signed it, it wasn't a big deal. now it's a big deal. he changes. you know, i'm sorry. bill clinton -- you're a phony, bill clinton. you're a phony. >> stephen: yeah, what a phony. but bill o'reilly's no phony, and that's what's shaken me to my core

some of the firemen who responded bravely were killed in the explosion as well. right now authorities don't believe it is intentional at all, and that's amazing. i want to bring everybody back in here. right after the boston bombings, as well, you know, when i first heard the story i thought oh my--there are no coincidences is what i normally think but it looks like this is a coincidence, an amazing and horrible coincidence. michael, it's interesting that more people are killed, more people are injured in texas but it gets a lot less attention because it's not intentional. >> of course, it's a tragedy. april is the cruelest month thing is really rearing it's head. it does not sound surprising that that would happen. it's an absolute tragedy. i think we're all--our jaws dropped when we saw that explosion and heard that little girl or that little boy talking to her father. this is perpetrated in boston by people against people. these are innocent victims the same thing but there was a perpetrator there. >> cenk: let me flow this out out--throw this out to you guys.

we've got a lot of firemen down. >> firefighters down. again, there is an explosion, there are firefighters down. >> rest home has been seriously damaged. we have many people down. please respond. >> we're getting you everybody i can. you have deputyies. you have fire and ems. i'm sending everybody i got. >> brian: firefighters that are down, we still are not accounted for. the sun will come up when the fire dissipates, they can get a little closer and find out their fate. but they went right in when the fire happened and then the explosion can't be totally unexpected. but the goal was to stop the fire before the explosion and that didn't happen. we're joined on the phone by crystal anthony who lives in west, texas who witnessed and i imagine heard it. where were you when it happened? >> i was across the street by the nursing home. >> brian: were you helping evacuate? >> yes. i ended up helping evacuate. i live in the 1500 block of davis. my daughter was outside playing basketball and she was telling me that there was a fire. and i looked

the fire trucks went there, we sent the ems unit to back the firemen up. saw how bad it was, i went to the nursing home, to the medical director and called all the personnel and said get people evacuated to the far side of the building. luckily we had most everybody out then. but then there was just a major, major explosion. the windows came in on me, the roof came in on me, the ceiling came in. i worked my way out to go get some more help. of course we lost all communication because the power went out. the anhydrous station is badly damage. the whole 1,500 block of still meadow, my son lives there, it would have fall i don't know on him, that whole street is kbon. >> reporter: where were you at when -- >> i was in the nursing home. >>. >> reporter: what is this like? explain. how are you feeling right this second? >> exhausted. trying to get everybody where they need to, trying to do my job. i can't communicate with anybody. we didn't have cell service. finally got enough information i went to the helicopter because they have different kind of radio syste

kwaeg that's occurring tonight and i'd like to know whether that same aggressive questioning when the firemen and police men talk their salary and we won't have to be here to late >> any other members of the public? public comment is closed. >> mr. chair i'd like to recommend or move the recommendation of the budget. >> we have a motion to easement the budget analysis recommendation and we can do that without opposition anything else? and to me this is i'd like to move this item forward with the remedies from this committee. >> ongoing colleagues if there aren't any other motions i'm going to request a role call on this motion and on this motion alters amended? >> (calling names). the motion passes. okay. the motion passes. mr. clerk do we have any other items? okay. we are adjourned after 7 and a half >> there are kids and families ever were. it is really an extraordinary playground. it has got a little something for everyone. it is aesthetically billion. it is completely accessible. you can see how excited people are for this playground. it is very special. >> on opening day in the brand- n

but rescue workers, firemen, no one has arrived on scene yet.e's trying to move away from the smoke. he's trying to make his way to safety. but eventually he can hold on no longer. >> oh, wow. you see him fall five stories down to the ground. now the shocking thing about this video is the person behind the camera moves in to get a better shot of this man and everyone in this entire crowd, no one goes to this man's aid, including a man who looks like he's dressed in a police uniform. this man did survive the fall with nonlife threatening injurieses. but watch how much time passes with no one going to this man's aid. >> they're too busy with their camera phones taking picture of this and never occurred to them to run at him and help him. >> at the same time, you know, if you're not a medical professional you're not necessarily supposed to move somebody around who was just involved in a fall like this. >> even if it is running over to comfort him. he did survive this fall and probably very scared at this point. >> this video is nearly 20 minutes lo

i can't say enough about the brave -- our brave first responders and our firemen and our police.plan. they implemented the plan. and the it is qui was evacuated last night. they're coming back in right now. there is no water. no power. but i've got to take my hat off to them. these are brave, brave people. >> amazing what they did. as we see the first responders doing going into the fire to try to save lives. sir, let me ask you, we have been reporting that people are treating this as an industrial accident. you just heard our miguel martez talking about how the plant was fined last year had, issued with the risk management in 2006 and said that the tanks had pose d o risk of fire which is an aggressive thing to say for ammonia. are you sure at this point that this was an accident? >> right now, erin, frankly, we don't know. we're not going to be able to know for several more weeks. but we're still -- right now we have all of our resources focused on trying to find people. so we're in a search and rescue. we may be in a search and recovery. i promise you, erin, that as soon as th

. >> we've got a lot of firemen down. >> reporter: among those who never made it out, dallas fire rescuewasn't even his jurisdiction. he just wanted to help. neighbors say that's just how folks from these parts are. >> it's just about a second family. and you hear all these people how they make it. it's just heart breaking. the only thing you've got to do is pray. it's so sad. it's just very terrible here. i mean, i have friends here. i have relatives just down the road. and i want to get in touch with them. that's why i'm here just to see if they're even alive. >> the bandages are still fresh. he heard about the fire and immediately raced to the nursing home across the street from the plant. he and his fellow first responders rushed into the building. >> next thing i knew, i heard a big explosion. i fell on my face and the windows and everything fell in on me. i had to dig myself out. i feel blessed that there's some people alive now that wouldn't be. >> in all, more than 160 injured. as many as 15 dead. more than 35 still missing. investigators still aren't sure what caused the explosi

thus, we have not been able to locate those firemen yet. >> reporter: kenny harris was killed.was off duty at the time but volunteered to help fight the fire. it's not yet clear what sparked the fire, but the company that operates the fertilizer plant has been cited for safety and violations. for residents in west, the immediate task is picking up the pieces. april's house is still standing with glass shards embedded in the walls. >> some of my closest friends have had their whole destroyed. and we're gonna try to pull together and recover from this. that's all we can do. th very large task. community randal pinkston, cbs news, west texas. >> incredibly, there's one man who because an eyewitness to both tragedies. a runner crossed the finish line in boston before the first bomb went off in boston. his wife was hit by shrapnel, but she's okay. two days later, he was home in texas when the explosion happened. it was so powerful, it shook his car. but he wasn't hurt, he says. it was a miracle. >>> coming up, the latest on a chaotic situation unfolding in boston. gunfire. explosion

. >> shepard: what we now know why the firemen became targets. what may be a new and extremely disturbing revelation about north korea came today. and it wasn't supposed to. the word is north korea probably has nuclear weapons that it can launch on a ballistic missile. that's from a new pentagon report, which a congressman read outloud today on capitol hill. he was not supposed to read it at all. because that report was classified. but the pentagon says somebody inadvertently marked it unclassified. quite a mistake. and this finding is a very big deal. because the analysts have long said for years now that the north koreans have not yet figured out a way to stick a nuke on an intercontinental missile. if they can do it now, it is an enormous threat to american interests around the world. jennifer griffin on fox top story live at the pentagon tonight. stunning, jennifer. >> it's a pretty big revelation, shep. until now, the defense secretary and other pentagon officials had always said that the north koreans had not yet miniaturized device allowin

overnight, soldiers and firemen and local volunteers combed the site, removing bodies and bits of rubblehand, but specialist tools and equipment were in short supply. still, there were survivors and some were angry, claiming they'd been forced to work by factory bosses, despite the appearance of cracks in the building earlier in the week. >> reporter: t.v. broadcast the day before the building collapsed, does show cracks in the walls, and today the police said factory bosses ignored them when they ordered an evacuation of rana plaza disaster site. this disaster raises serious questions about the commitment of factory owners, governments and fashion brands to ensure safe working conditions. this afternoon in dhaka, workers made their own demands in front of the garment industry's offices. the call for better conditions and their anger boiled over. skirmishes with the police broke out and three factories were vandalized. >> sreenivasan: in iraq, more than 40 people died today in the city of mosul as sunni militants battled police. elsewhere, gunmen seized control of a sunni town north of b