fleischmann: i can only tell you what i know. spoke with my good friend, congressman jeff duncan, who left the practice earlier than i did. he said he spoke with the gunman and the gunman asked him a simple question -- who is practicing today? are these republicans? obviously, the answer was in the affirmative. it is common for people to come out and want just play. it has always been very safe. so that is a rather innocuous question most of the time. in this case, sadly it is someone with a vendetta of some sort against republicans. sadly, he did attempt and carry it out. we know senator sanders said he was a volunteer in some way in the campaign. although no one remembers him, he was a volunteer in bernie sanders' campaign. i think he posted that on his facebook. rep. fleischmann: we believe this person had an ideology of hatred. i do not want to blame democrats or anyone else other than the shooter. it is a very important sign that the rhetoric in this country, sometimes it gets so volatile and vile on both sides. sometimes it

fleischmann: we were very fortunate. as a matter of fact, 2 of these heroes were injured in the gunfight. what happened was we played baseball with our majority whip steve scalise, who sadly wasn't and is inly was shot surgery right now. i pray for his quick and speedy recovery. his security detail is omnipresent. they are with us because he is in leadership. but for the fact that they are there and they are armed, this gunmen would have been able to shoot us all at will. jane: obviously, an investigation into the motives of this attack is ongoing, but do you think you are targeted? rep. fleischmann: me personally, no, because of this gun man wanted to target me, i would have been a dead man, because i was probably the closest person to him standing where i was. thank god he chose not to shoot me. i don't know how close bullets came to me. i spoke to one of my members, who i was facing and speaking with, just moments before the shooting, and he actually told me bullets were flying as he was running across the infield. fo

looks like fleischmann is that fleischmann on the back of that jersey there?. >> bishop in his second term. >> 3-1 count to bishop. runner at second takes the lead. 3-1 pitch outside. ball four. richmond walks his second batter of the inning. > thomas rooney now. first pitch over for a strike, 0-1. >> we've seen a big, looping breaking ball in for a strike. >> and another one. > another one. > 0-2, two outs, 1-0 lead. pitch in the dirt. >> maybe an error. >> to the left field. runner going to score. safe at third. fleischmann scores on the fastball then it was bishop all the way to third. they try to tag him out, they collided, but he's safe at third. >> that was a pretty good collision at third base. you see it on the board here. richmond came in with his left arm hurricanes nonpitching arm, jammed it pretty good. both bodies went flying off the bag. ball came out of his mitt. takes a step back off the rubber here. >> he's going to go for the wind-up on the 1-2, two outs. swing and a miss, strike three. inning over. republicans get two on the board in the top

we talk to congressman chuck fleischmann of tennessee who was at the field when the shoot og kurd. >> as i got in and i walked and i approached the batting cage, close to home plate but on the third base side, large crack. i didn't realize at that time that that was a gunshot. there s really no since of alarm at that point in time until about 10 seconds later when the shooter opened up with literally a barrage of gunfire. >> rose: we continue with acer sam elliott, his new film is called "the hero." >> i'm riding the peak right now. it's all peaks and valleys. have i had a wonderful career, it's been almost 49 years now and to still be at it doing something i loved as a kid and always aspired to do, you know, i'm a lucky man. >> rose: and we conclude with dexter filkins the writer and reporter for "the new yorker" magazine, his latest piece in the magazine was a profile of defense secretary james mattis. >> even then all the marines were kind of whispering and looking on him with some a-we, there is general mattis. and-- . >> rose: but he. >> he was, if you remember that time the enti

a little earlier tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann spoke to our casey hunt. let's listen to their conversation. >> he and i decided to make a run to the dugout. that's where a lot of the members got hurt like myself trying to dive into the dugout to find a safe place. unfortunately when we got to the dugout we realized we were still under attack, the shots were still coming. the capitol police fortunately were there because of our chip, steve scalise. they returned fire and they saved our lives and the lives of other people because bewwe werel sitting ducks. a lot of people were bleeding. one gentleman was shot in the leg. one local law enforcement arrived and subdued the shooter, we were realized to get up and then we regularized the magnitude of the carnage, our members who had been shot, staff members who had been severely wondered. one young gentleman got shot in the chest. it was horrible. he was just in my office yesterday. >> reporter: who is the young man. his name is mica. he plays with us every day. a lot of the hill staffers and folks come out and

>> we are waiting to talk to congressman fleischmann. he was at the practice when the shooting occurred and he will join us in not too long here, but as we await that. i just want to tell you what we've been hearing from some of the members of congress who were at the practice when this happened or even just before it happened. we heard from rodney davis still very shaken. he came here to the capitol and this, mind you, it's not that far from alexandria where this happened. it could have been a 20-minute drive and came still dressed in his baseball uniform and we're hearing from him as well as other members from congress even as we wait to see what the details are of the shooting and what the motive might have been as the shooter has been identified james hodgkinson, they're talking about political rhetoric and wanting to reduce some -- i want to bring in the congressman. we are live right now. thank you for joining us, congressman fleischmann from tennessee. tell me about where you were when this happened and just describe how this unfo

[applause] >> chuck fleischmann. [applause] >> matt gaetz. bill johnson. [applause] trent kelly. darren lahood. doug lamalfa. [applause] barry loudermilk. [applause] roger marshall. pat meehan. [applause] john moolenaar. gary palmer. paul. [applause] erik paulsen. steve pearce. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [applause] >> and now for the democrats. [cheers and applause] [applause] joe crowley. >> [applause] joe donnelly. >> [applause] mike doyle. jared huffman. >> [applause] hakeem jeffries. >> [applause] >> daniel kildee. >> [applause] [cheers and applause] >> bill pascrell. >> ed perlmutter. polis. >> [applause] >> cedric richmond. >> [applause] raul ruiz. >> [applause] >> tim ryan. >> linda sanchez. >> [applause] marc veasey. >> [applause] >> eric swalwell. >> [applause] >> ladies and gentleman, please rise. [applause] >> please rise for "the star spangled banner" and "god bless america." >> oh say can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming whose broad stripes and bright stars through the p

you heard congressman fleischmann talk about that. whether they need to consider increasing their security when they're in large groups but this overwhelming sense that congressmen and congress wwomen enjoy going out in public. if it were not for the security that leader scalise had, this would be a very different conversation we were having here today. so the conversation going forward is about how to strike that middle ground. you saw the congressman here getting emotional, speaking choking back tears about how he feels it's important to have that relationship with the american people, to speak with his constituents without feeling that he's being somehow shielded by a lot of security. but that's the real conversation here going forward at least but a lot hof shocked members and members coming back up still in their baseball uniforms trying to really understand what they have just gone through george. >> mary, thanks. i want to go to pierre thomas. we now can identify the shooter? >> yes george. we're told he's been identified as a

. >> congressman fleischmann, the reason there were capitol hill police were, we're told is steve scalise is the majority whip and he's always accompanied by a protected detail, is that right? >> that is absolutely correct, sir. >> the speaker, the leader and the whip on the republican side have 24/7 security with the capitol police. no one else does, but for the fact that they were there it could have been a lot worse. as a matter of fact, when the gun fire -- by the time we made it into the dugout -- and there were children there, too. this is what's so sad about it. children who come out to watch their parents play and their relatives play, we were all huddled in the dugout. others were trying to run for cover, but there was a real fear when the shots were continuing on, wolf, that this gunman was going to come in the dugout, we would have been sitting ducks. >> if the capitol hill police detail had been there, there would have been no police, no security and this shooter with the rifle, it could have been so much worse, right? >> absolutely. absolutely. and the fear factor was horrifi

chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were sitting ducks in that dugout." "you have a baseball bat. they have a rifle. you're defenseless."< rep. chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were literally just crying for help and help did finally arrive more nattwo capitol police officers were injured as they traded fire, they were taking on a guy with a rifle from 90 to 120 feet away. they had pistols, he had a rifle had they not been there i think it would be a massacre.president trump: "many lives would have been lost if not for the heroic actions of the two capitol police officers who took down the gunman despite sustaining gunshot wounds during a very very brutal assault."president trump: "authorities are continuing to investigate the crime and the assailant has now died from his injuries"66-year-old james hodgkinson lived in this house in belleville, illinois."i just want to let people know that he wasn't evil, that we was tired of some of the politics going on."senator b

tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann and others sprinted to the dugout where he says they felt likeitting ducks. >> today i experienced the carnage of actual gunshots being fired first hand. it was horrific. >> reporter: witnesses say it soon became a gun battle between the shooter and police. congressman joe barton, who manages the team, was there with his 10 year old son jack, who took cover under a nearby suv. >> dozens, if not hundreds of shots fired. it was scary. >> reporter: rodney davis was taking batting practice when the attack began. >> i heard a loud noise. i thought it was a construction site dropping a large piece of metal. and the next thing i heard was, run, he's got a gun. >> reporter: the gunman approached a fence along the third-base line but never got on the field. steve scalise standing on second base was shot first. other law makers took cover in the first base scalise dragged himself across the field, leaving a trail of blood. after the attack was over, jeff flake and others ran to his aid. >> he was just laying on the field, been shot in the hip. so we applie

. >> tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann was there and he also dove for cover. he saw bloodied elbows, bloody hands from trying to shield themselves. i spoke with fleischmann a short time ago. >> well, this was a routine day of practice for our republican baseball team and it was at the conclusion of practice so i was doing my stretching like i always do after practice. i'm 54 now so i stretch after practice. i was walking in. >> reporter: where were you? >> i was in left field. and i was walking in on the third base side. i saw my dear friend trent kelly and we were bantering back and forth about how well we had done. i didn't realize it at that point but at that time the shooter had to be at my back. i walked forward and then we heard a single gunshot. i heard a pop. i did not recognize it as a gunshot at that time so i didn't do anything. i stood there and i was with my friend larry huearty. within a few seconds, there were multiple gunshots being fired and larry and i both went down. the shots were coming from the third base side. by this time, i was behind

congressman fleischmann with us just moments ago. the shooting sending shock waves through the capitol right here behind me. we saw security tighter than ever here today. tourists kept away for a time. and in the hallways and in meeting rooms today, members of congress asking, has the rhetoric gone too far? where are we now as a nation? abc's mary bruce also here on capitol hill. >> reporter: congressman steve scalise was looking forward to the big game. >> i couldn't even make my high school team. but, you know, kind of bloomed later in life. >> reporter: the louisiana lawmaker, a proud ragin' cajuns fan, calling his wife before heading into surgery. also hit, zack barth, a congressional aide from texas. posting that he was in the hospital but "okay." and lobbyist matt mika, one of the team's coaches, shot in the chest. tonight in critical condition. and those two heroic officers, crystal griner, shot in the ankle. and david bailey, a nine-year veteran of the capitol police, suffering minor injuries. both there to protect scalise, b

chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were sitting ducks in that dugout." "you have a baseball bat. they have a rifle. you're defenseless."< rep. chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were literally just crying for help and help did finally arrive more nattwo capitol police officers were injured as they traded fire, they were taking on a guy with a rifle from 90 to 120 feet away. they had pistols, he had a rifle had they not been there i think it would be a massacre.president trump: "many lives would have been lost if not for the heroic actions of the two capitol police officers who took down the gunman despite sustaining gunshot wounds during a very very brutal assault."president trump: "authorities are continuing to investigate the crime and the assailant has now died from his injuries"66-year-old james hodgkinson lived in this house in belleville, illinois."i just want to let people know that he wasn't evil, that we was tired of some of the politics going on."senator be

a little earlier tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann spoke to our casey hunt. let's listen to their conversation. >> he and i decided to make a run to the dugout. that's where a lot of the members got hurt like myself trying to dive into the dugout to find a safe place. unfortunately when we got to the dugout we realized we were still under attack, the shots were still coming. the capitol police fortunately were there because of our chip, steve scalise. they returned fire and they saved our lives and the lives of other people because bewwe werel sitting ducks. a lot of people were bleeding. one gentleman was shot in the leg. one local law enforcement arrived and subdued the shooter, we were realized to get up and then we regularized the magnitude of the carnage, our members who had been shot, staff members who had been severely wondered. one young gentleman got shot in the chest. it was horrible. he was just in my office yesterday. >> reporter: who is the young man. his name is mica. he plays with us every day. a lot of the hill staffers and folks come out and

here to discuss is tennessee congressman and baseball team member chuck fleischmann. did you do last night? >> i did pretty well. i scored a run. my manager told me i'm still the fastest man on the team, so at almost 55 i will take that before we start i want to say hi to my dear friend steve scalise. steve, i love you, i miss you. we were thinking about you last night. all of america was with you and the other folks who were injured and shot america began its healing process last night and you led the way. steve: indeed. well put, congressman, thank you very much. you know what? as people look in on this friday morning they are going okay, that was a great night in national park and great to see nancy pelosi and speaker ryan and pich an and mitch and k together last night. where do we go from here? is anything going to change? >> i hope. so let's face it, america is the greatest nation in the world because of our diversity. i'm a conservative republican. and i represent a wonderful district in east tennessee with people with good, strong conservative values i realize

took his belt off and made a turn kit around zack's leg to stop the you know, i remember chuck fleischmann screaming to hurry up and get here. jack barton was in the dugout with us. just trying to take care of each other. there was a lot of heros today among my friends. it's something i will not forget. it seemed like it went forever. the police say they got here in about three or four minutes and i'm sure that's the case, but it's a long time. they say 60 shots were fired but without our capitol police who took literally took a step forward when they didn't have to. they could've stepped backwards. they stepped forward. they saved all of us out there. there is no question about it. we had no arms. all we had and the shooter. but i'm praying for whip scalise, the policeman, mika and then my young man that works for us in our office, zack, who will be fine. so with that i'll be glad to take some questions. >> reporter: that right there is zach barth's boss and the staffer who got injured and got a huge assist from arizona senator flake today when he tied a turnaket around his wound. he is e

>> chuck fleischmann, the congressman from tennessee, said, how am i supposed to feel safe on a ball field? how am i supposed to feel safe out in the open and this is something that brought people together and it was such an event that they have it at nats park. >> it's big. >> people donate it to come see it. it's something that the media pays attention to. it's not just inside baseball, it's actually something that the public gets to enjoy. it was scheduled for tomorrow night. >> and more than a million dollars -- excuse me, $600,000 is one of the last numbers that i heard for the fund-raiser that was collected last year for local charities. something that they can all get behind. >> and families go he was in the capitol and wearing a baseball cap. at least one or two kids were at the park. they go there for a safe, secure, family time and across the country, it's such a terrible message. >> and we've been monitoring social media and we're also now seeing from one of the producers, the congressional producers for nbc news but a posting from one of the victims in this incident today

. >> joining us now is the republican congressman from tennessee, chuck fleischmann, on the field at the time of the shooting. representative, thanks for being here with us. and i know it was a tough time for you. have you spoken with representative scalise and how are you doing now that those -- these days have passed since that incident? >> richard, thank you. i have not had an opportunity to speak with my dear friend, steve scalise, but i want to wish my friend steve scalise a very happy father's day. along with all the other dads in the united states of america. i am doing much better, it was a very horrific day. i never experienced anything like that, but i wish steve, mr. mika, all those shot and injured a full and speedy recovery. >> representative, i'm so glad to hear that you're doing better and that you heard the good news about steve scalise doing better too from mike vicar a. we have that ad that came out in georgia and both sides -- both parties are saying not good stuff, this ad that is attacking ossoff in that runoff. your reaction to that ad. >> well, i have not seen

fleischmann. >> thank you mr. chairman. mr. secretary, let mess start by saying thank you for your tremendous service to the country and the united states machine corps, for stepping up now and being secretary at this most difficult time. in our nation's history. you're a great american and i'm infinitely grateful for the job you're doing, sir. i'll limit my time to the one question. cpb faces a tight budget environment. much of congress and the administration's focus rightly on physical infrastructure, staffing needs and emerging technologies like aerial drones. dhs should not ignore proven effective technologies that facilitate the safe and efficient flow of legitimate trade and travel across the border. what is dhs' plan, sir, to incorporate effective port of entry technology baase the border security plan? >> one of the things -- i'm on. one of the things mr. trump said to me early on when we discussed what his thoughts were relative to the southwest border, he said, you know, kelly, the one thing we can't stop, in fact, if

i'll speak to congressman chuck fleischmann of tennessee, he's a republican and he was there on the scene and joining us on the phone. congressman, first of all, tell us how you're doing? >> wolf, i'm shook up. thank god. i'm a little bit bloodied from jumping in the dugout when we were under fire, but there were several other people shot and heart a lot worse. just a horrible, horrible morning for us all and a sad day for america. >> are you still there at the baseball field? >> no, sir. they kept us in an area that was blocked off until everybody was interviewed and then the capitol police put us on a bus any brought us back to capitol hill. so all of us who were able are now back on capitol hill in our offices. so walk us through what happened. where were you when the first -- when you heard that first shot? >> yes, sir. we were close to the conclusion of the practice. we practice every day. the republicans and democrat dechls both have a baseball team and i play on the republican team, this is my seventh year and i was walking from left field down the third base side and said hello to

you know, i remember and chuck fleischmann was on the phone to 911 screaming to hurry up and get here. jack barton, joe barton's son was in the dugout with us, and we were all taking care of him. just trying to take care of each other. there were a lot of heros today among my friends. it's something i will not forget. it seemed like it went forever. the police say they got there in about three or four minutes, and i'm sure that that's the case but it's a long time. they say 60 shots were fired. but without our capitol police who took -- literally took a step forward when they didn't have to. they could have stepped backwards. they stepped forward. they saved all of us out there. there is no question about it. we had no arms. all we had was bats, and the shooter. but i'm praying for whip scalise, the policemen, mika, and then my young man that works for us in our office zack who will be fine. so with that i'll be glad to take some questions, if you have any. yes, ma'am. >> what can you tell us about steve scalise's condition. have you talked to him? >> i have not talked to him but i un

one thing that i was just told by chuck fleischmann, he said they've decided on the republican side thatgo out are going to be the people who were at that shooting yesterday. normally they have a regular starting lineup, but this one is going to be adjusted in memorial -- memory of what happened and in honor of steve scalise, you're going to see a lot of lsu hats. that's his alma mater. when you see somebody wearing an alabama shirt and an lsu hat, you know this isn't a regular game. >> chris, thank you very much. enjoy the game. thank you for watching. see you back here tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. "hardball" with chris matthews starts right now. >>> is the veep in deep? let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight, there are new indications the trump/russia probe could reach deeper into the white house. vice president mike pence has retained outside counsel now to represent him for the course of the investigation. it comes as nbc news today confirmed "the washington post" scoop that president trump is under criminal investigation by the special c

. >> chuck fleischmann, marty, the photographer was there. i think mo brooks came in. during that time you'd see more and more pile in. i think there were about 12. some staff, some members, six, eight members in the dugout. like i said, there were people hiding behind trees. there's a dog park over there, always people over there. i think they were running the wrong direction. >> ten minutes to get the gunman down but you had security details. what took so long? >> he had a lot of ammo. i think he must have been secured behind the third base dugout for a while. so it was tough to get to him. >> from a tactical standpoint. >> seemed so. eventually he was out in the open. marty, our photographer saw him the first time raise the rifle. he thought, why in the world is somebody bird hunting out here at this time. looked like 40s, maybe 50, dark hair, white, with a blue shirt on, i think jeans. my view of him was quick behind the dugout. when i realized he had a line of sight into the dugout with all the members there, then we obviously went back down quickly. >> reports of

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