do you think florida you think florida michigan pennsylvania and wisconsin are the key states. yeah they show up like that you might throw in arizona. maybe a council in ever that's it i agree and this is a strange thing we have now. going to have to refer to the 2000 election so al gore and i got 5 and 40000 'd more votes than george bush 'd and dick cheney we lost electoral college with 3 votes. hillary clinton got almost 3000000 more votes the tramp in 2016 i forget the numbers when he went to electoral college but 030 or 40 votes so that's the way it is that's that's the kind susan and. there are big population states in new york california which is or prove predictably democratic so that's a good head start of the numbers with those states you say are the ones that are are going to be the the the battleground states 'd and when i said before the election were held today i think joe biden would when it's based on reading polls in those states was and every one of those states to the. joe biden is ahead some are quite closely floor some like michigan is built of some one to

four key battleground states, florida, ohio, michigan, pennsylvania are where small businesses say they have been hit the hardest. one break for small businesses, the treasury department says businesses that applied for and accepted less than $2 million for the paycheck protection program will presume they acted in good faith and they won't be subject to more scrutiny. steven knew chi says that covers 78% of the money. >>> the country's largest teacher's union is responding to president trump's call to reopen schools. outrage does not begin to describe what parents and educators are feeling. it was a slap. it was ignorant at best. it was heartless at worse to ask parents to sacrifice their children so that they could get back to, would. most students across the country are home for the rest of the academic year and distance learning is taking a toll. 40,000 students haven't checked in regularly online in los angeles. one nevada school district was still trying to track down 100,000 students last month. >> some students got laptops, chrome books but they don't have the wi-fi access. it's

in 2016, president trump won michigan, pennsylvania, florida and ohio.he can get them again, with the impact of the pandemic. also, north carolina, wisconsin and arizona, trump got them last time, too. take a look at michigan. using this as an example, the kre ce census bureau says 65% of small businesses have been adversely affected by the pandemic, 13% higher than the national average. more than half of michigan's locations are temporarily closed, operating revenues for the state are down almost 80%. michigan is the automobile heartland. it was so devastated by the financial crisis and it was working on building itself back. president trump toured a ventilator assembly plant in michigan on thursday. shows you his focus is certainly there. look at pennsylvania. almost 60% of businesses are seeing a negative impact from the virus there. more than half the locations are closed and operating revenue's down 74%. biden is polling ahead in both michigan and also pennsylvania as well as florida, wisconsin and arizona right now. but what's interesting is that t

wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, north carolina, florida and arizona.those are the six states that both sides concede is where the battle is primarily being vote, six states that trump won by the slanderous of margins. based on private polling, republican private polling, trump is behind in five of those states. he's behind in arizona, in florida, all three of the mid western industrial states. the one state he's above water in is north carolina. he's losing in five of six states that he won in 2016 and then you look at the states, he's advertising like crazy, playing defense effectively, if you look at the states, his team said they were going to expand the map, he said minnesota, new mexico, he said nevada, he said new hampshire, how many states are they aeft idvertising in ri now? >> none. the ones he lost by -- again, i'm not predicting the outcome of this election. no one should do that after what we saw in 2016. it's not looking good for donald trump. >> all three of us have spent a lot of time staring looking at the maps. after the break, more on

he is really not only leading donald trump of the four key states, swing states of florida and michigan in pennsylvaniamong those crucial independence and suburban voters. that's the day. whether or not that's true in november is a very separate issue. >> harris: lets pop this up on the screen. politico has the story today, and the headline was why are you not burying him? trump allies and a rising joe biden threat and subtitle outside advisors and donors want the trump campaign to unleash more resources quickly identified in strength in the polls. and this one from real clear politics average shows biden leading trump by a bit more than five percentage points. >> the gaps are a distraction for the biden campaign. joe biden is going to be defeated in november because donald trump scored higher on who will improve the economy. whether it be trade deals, whether it be a tax policy, whether it be regulation policy, donald trump defeats joe biden. that's why it is so appropriate that joe biden spends so much time in his basement because that's where the u.s. economy will be of joe biden gets elected presid

there's a lot of voters older than 65 in key states like florida and michigan and pennsylvania, you know, a lot of white house officials have pointed this out to trump, and they're trying to highlight events and policies that he supports that will bring his older voters back into the fold. and we will see six months is long time before the election, so we will see if this is durable problem he has or just right now. but the fear of reopening the country too early could literally cause this is people their lives is making them wary. and they see joe biden who they see as a moderate san acceptable alternative to trump. so this is critical voting block because of the pandemic there's new trouble for the president in the numbers right now. >> dr. goosby, one last question before i let you go. what about a vaccine? the most optimistic estimates predict we don't have a vaccine for at least 9 months, some say 1 or a year and half. the country's largest syringe manufacturer says we need to ramp up syringes because we're going to need them very soon. >> i think tony fauci is correct in saying it'

hey include california, texas, illinois, michigan, florida, pennsylvania, new york, new jersey, and massachusetts. pat from nebraska. good morning. caller: hi, guys. i have a question about the numbers here. the united states has about 4.25% of the world's population and -- this is what i need from the expert. shouldn't we have about 4 difficulty 25% of the deaths and the cases in the world? and yet we have 25% of the world's deaths in the world and to me that's a massive fail that nobody's talking about. am i right? am i wrong? i find that really disturbing. thank you for your expertise. i appreciate it. guest: thanks so much for your question. so i think you can look at the population rate and try to determine who might be most impacted. but with a disease threat what really matters is where the disease spreads, who has the first -- where the a first cases come from. so we see lots and lots of cases in wuhan and china. then we see cases all over the world connected by air to the first places where the first cases arrive. and so where the disease begins to spread is a function not only as a popu

four years ago donald trump was way behind in wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania and florida.lering hillary clinton, so there's plenty of time and variability in the election, but it does require a strategy and it does depend upon the trump campaign recognizing that just as joe biden is trying to make this referendum on donald trump, the trump campaign must make this a contrast. a choice between two men. here's what donald trump believes and says and here's what joe biden thinks and believes and does. they have to make that a very strong case that america would be better off with trump for another four years. >> martha: i think this is going to be a fascinating six months because so far the opponent has been doing some things here and there from his basement. i saw that david axelrod is saying, it's time to get joe biden out there on the campaign trail. in order for people to make a change, even though we are in tough times, they have to be convinced that the other option is going to be safer, stronger, better for them, and better for the economy. >> unless it's a throw the bu

that includes pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, arizona, florida, north carolina.obably the six premier swing states. all six of the biggest swing states are going to allow expanse i have voting by mail this year. what's interesting is you see a little difference in terms of who runs the secretary of state office. most states, it is democrats. in florida, it is a republican. >> wow. >> what you've got, i believe that should be a republican for arizona too. but what you've got, chuck, is the question of yes, they allow no excuse absentee voting, but how is the secretary of state going to implement it. that's the controversy in michigan. do you send the applications out preemptively to all voters, do they have to request the absentee application? there's even as we saw, by the way, this is the other one, i meant to say, the other thing, states don't have a ton of experience with this. this is the percentage of votes in swing states that were cast in person in the most recent election. look at these three. north carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin. almost all votes cast

michigan. another thing we have seen from the president is that when he travels, it is all about the map. arizona, pennsylvania, michigan, floridaattlegrounds back in 2016 and again now in 2020. one of the issues for the president, he wants the reopening to accelerate and get going as fast as possible because of the economic devastation of the coronavirus. nearly 40 million americans have filed claims for unemployment in just the last nine weeks. the president insists, though, as america reopens, the comeback will be giant. >> next year we're going to have one of the strongest years we've had in a long time and that's my ambition, to get it back to not only where it was, but to beyond where it was. >> you watch what happens starting in the fourth quarter, probably starting in the third quarter a little bit, the transition quarter. we're going to be bigger and better than ever. >> within the next year, we're going to be exceeding any expectation and i have a good gut feeling about a lot of things, including running for president. and i think we're going to do better the second time. >> with us this sunday to share his insights, m

if you look at ohio, michigan, pennsylvania and florida, you are seeing the percentage of people filingersing the worse force in the high double digits. that's not a percentage. that's not a good sign for the president. that's why we are seeing him agitating to get the economy reopen and what you have been reporting all day is talking to health experts and infectious disease experts who say this is not a question whether you keep people safe or turn the economy back on. this is a question of whether you can do two things at once and that requires going slower perhaps than the president wants. looking forward to tomorrow's april unemployment report. two things i am watching. one is the headline numbers, it is not going to count those workers who are not looking for a job or they are unavailable. those workers would get on a weekly week going to work. if those factors may skew the numbers so we may see, you are talking about unemployment rate of nearly 30%, john. >> we are not at the bottom just yet. cristina alesci, thank you. >>> top scientists say do not expect a coronavirus vaccine th

in arizona and michigan and florida there is a tradition of voting by mail. people have done it. in north carolina and pennsylvania, and wisconsin. not much about one in 20. if you're up to four in ten or five in ten. there's a huge challenge and it's not clear the states are up to to. >> we'll be watching and following. appreciate it. alarming spikes in new crisis coronavirus cases hitting some states now including several in the south. what's behind the increase.

arizona, florida, michigan, carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin. remember, trump won all six of these in 2016. some of them narrowly. you've got biden in the average of the polls taken in these states in the last month or so. you've got biden up in five of them. trump hanging on by a small margin. polling is a little sporadic at the statewide level. some grains of salt here. remember, when we start talking about battle for 270, these are the states that really become important here. keep in mind with this in mind, let's take a quick look here at our road to 270 map. this is where we start. this is where it finished in 2016. remember this was clinton's number, 232. if you look back at those, you saw a comfortable lead in the average. if he got pennsylvania, michigan. he's even ahead by a smaller margin but he's ahead in wisconsin. and if he just wins those three states back and nothing else changes, that's enough right there. if you can't get wisconsin, that's a little closer. actually in the average right now, a bigger margin for biden is in arizon

michigan, to pennsylvania. even in the middle of the pandemic, he's ventured into those states. he's not doing a full-scale travel schedule. he went down to floridaant. where are they on the air? we talked previously about the fact they're on the air in all six of the core battleground states. michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, north carolina, florida, and arizona. those are the six states that donald trump won by the narrowest margin in 2016. all those states he's advertising in. none of those states -- those are all states he won last time, right? previously, he also was on the air in iowa, which is a state he won by nine points in 2016. he feels like he needs to defend himself in iowa. so the new trump ad is going up next week. you know what state they add to the list? they add ohio, another state trump won by seven or eight points in 2016. every state they're advertising in is a defense state. they're not on the air in minnesota, new hampshire, nevada, new mexico. none of those states that he lost narrowly in 2016, that they said they were foing going to t compete in and take away from democrats. he is on the air in eight states that he won i

pennsylvania, michigan, florida, wisconsin. there's the data.ithout the usual candidate tools even this summer's convention may be virtual, will he have to rethink his campaign? my next guest says yes, david axelrod you know, former advisor to president obama. in both of he's campaigns he wrote a piece in "the new york times" with david plouffe. david, thank you for being here. this was great radio fodder for me and my listeners on two days. >> glad to help you. >> by the way, give me something for next week, would you? but get came up why would the two davids, axelrod and plouffe but this in "the new york times" instead of calling up the former veep on his campaign apparatus? what, if anything, can we read into how you delivered the message? >> well, first of all, the piece was assigned to us by "the new york times." they were interested in how biden adjusts to the new reality in the covid-19 era. so, we were responding to that request. it wasn't meant as a message to the biden campaign. you know, the biden campaign has a new campaign manager j

florida and arizona, those states are so much -- trending so much better for biden than they should be at this point because of 65 and olders. up north, pennsylvania and michigan. in the sunbelt, florida and arizona. again, only may. it's not like this guy is getting better by the day. he keeps getting worse politically. >> yeah. as you've rightly said, it is a national poll. we don't vote in a national referend referendum, and it is only may. anything the last three months have taught us, everything can change in a short time. this fox news poll, a poll he used to lean on, not so much anymore, tells the story of a president in trouble, today. approaching memorial day weekend. another piece of think thought was interesting in the fox news poll, the president reluctant to wear a mask. he wore it briefly yesterday at the ford plant. the people carrying ar-15s are a small group, we know, protesting around michigan and the capitol. 84% of americans in this poll say they wear the mask, either all time or most of the time or usually. it is a small percentage, 6%, 6% say they never wear the mask. 8% say rarely they wear the mask. why do i bring that up? the reason is

michigan for biden. getting those two. if he picked off pennsylvania and michigan, that would put him on the cusp. he would be at 268. remember, other states, there were six. wisconsin, arizona, florida, north carolina. in a situation like this, if he can get pennsylvania and michigan or strongest polling in those battlegrounds, pick up one more, he crosses 270. wisconsin would do it. pick up those three. but if he doesn't, say trump holds on, how about arizona. you saw it there. polling in arizona is encouraging for democrats, too. a lot of potential paths for biden is what it is suggesting. remember, trump in the end did surprise everybody in '16. look forward to this one. >> trust a lot of people are watching that see the numbers, may be hopeful, assuming they oppose donald trump, but learned their lesson on this four years ago in arizona. martha mcsally in arizona, the republican senator there that has challenges now, up against retired astronaut mark kelly whose numbers are big as well. where are you seeing numbers that were blue in the battlegrounds, it seems as the president errs on the side of reopening the economy versus concerns about health, if you look at seniors over 65,

florida. tens of thousands. thousands more died in new jersey. thousands more died in michigan. thousands more in pennsylvania. what happened? okay, this is where we learn from the dumb ideas and the dumb policies that were made in the middle of corona, started in new york, march 25th. remember? florida went out of its way to get covid-19 patients out of nursing homes, protecting the most vulnerable and the elderly population of that state. in new york, march 25th, in new jersey, i believe they did it march 29th, pennsylvania not to be outdone, they did it on april the sixth. michigan just screwed everything up from the beginning. they all forced nursing homes and long-term care facilities to take in covid-19 patients where there were no covid-19 patients. this policy became a death sentence for many elderly people and all of the states and facilities. this was a literal death sentence. did they do it on purpose? no, i don't think they did it on purpose. did they do it because they are stupid? yeah, that's a big part of the reason. you have executive orders, all these mandates in these four states for example,

also, we will review the lessons learned from the successes of florida, texas, the failures of new york, new jersey, pennsylvania, michigan. plus we will rebuild the countdown of all countdowns. let's just say it has to do with the ever so forget the joe biden in in his basement. we will have the latest from his campaign and we will also lay new sound from that phony hypocrite barack obama. it will make your blood boil because he's really describing himself. and we start tonight with good news. we are seeing major advancements in the development of a vaccine for covid-19. this biotech company, moderna, human trials are yielding extremely positive results this early, but moderna ceos have the initial study could not have been any better appear at the trial vaccine is said to be generally safe and well tolerated among participants who responded to the vaccine by prog a high number of antibodies with a relatively low dose. we will explain. also a vaccine may not be a long way out, but it is a terrific development from the top scientists. we know they will get us out of this and any other pandemic we have. other good news, am

from a level stand point are unbelievable some of the hardest hit states, michigan, pennsylvania some of the lower states, florida, example they may not be processing claims wle we look at three separate gauges store closings, they are down. the percentage changed on a weekly basis is down we are still closing stores according to yelp data the infection rate is down as well it had been up near about 98% a week ago compared to the aver raj in the month of april. now it's down to 78% that's pretty good but it's still high again traffic not coming back almost at all just about 32% of what it normally is at rush hour yesterday in ten open cities we're trying to follow this stuff. trying to get a gauge or different ways the economy might be coming back one thing it seems right now is while some states have partial reopenings, customers, consumers and businesses haven't really made the transition yet. melissa. >> thank you >> federal borrowing may force the fed to consider rates. with us now is ken rogoff. professor, great to have you with us. >> thank you >> deeply negative meani ining u 3% walk us through the scenari

florida. losing badly to biden in pennsylvania. losing to biden in michigan. losing to biden in just about every swing state. what does biden do moving forward? what does -- i would ask, what does donald trump do moving forward? again, he doesn't seem to be able to control himself at all. i'm just wondering, here we are in may, and a lot of people would say, "tit's way too early" i remember the 2012 story you wrote about how barack obama defined mitt romney in such a way in may, romney never recovered from it. >> right. you go back and talk, joe, to smart people who have been at the core of incumbent re-election campaigns. white house political directors and campaign managers in re-elections. obama in '12. bush in '04. clinton in 1996. just the presidents in our lifetime, right? all will tell you that all three of those races in the re-elects had presidents who were struggling in various ways. they were a little below 50% or maybe a little more than below 50% in their approval ratings. all of them were deeply concerned about their boss' ability to win. all of

hey include california, texas, illinois, michigan, florida, pennsylvania, new york, new jersey, and massachusetts. pat from nebraska. good morning. caller: hi, guys. i have a question about the numbers here. the united states has about 4.25% of the world's population and -- this is what i need from the expert. shouldn't we have about 4 difficulty 25% of the deaths and the cases in the world? and yet we have 25% of the world's deaths in the world and to me that's a massive fail that nobody's talking about. am i right? am i wrong? i find that really disturbing. thank you for your expertise. i appreciate it. guest: thanks so much for your question. so i think you can look at the population rate and try to determine who might be most impacted. but with a disease threat what really matters is where the disease spreads, who has the first -- where the a first cases come from. so we see lots and lots of cases in wuhan and china. then we see cases all over the world connected by air to the first places where the first cases arrive. and so where the disease begins to spread is a function not only as a popu

job crisis has hit hardest in a number of those battleground states he needs to win, pennsylvania, michigan, floridathat joe biden has an opening on the economy if it stays as is? >> yeah, he's had an opening on this for a while. but i find of kind of ironic that trump wants to focus more on the economy and less on the pandemic, given the fact that one in seven are unemployed and we see the number growing. but joe biden has got a lot of opportunities and i think you're going to see him capitalize on those in the months ahead. >> thanks, guys. that's a wrap for me as well this hour. i'm alex witt. thank you for watching. at the top of the hour, alicia menendez will talk about transportation workers who feel more expendable than essential. that's ahead at 2:00 eastern on msnbc. snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. with nutrients to help support immune health. with nutrients to help around here, nobody ever does it. i didn't do it. so when i heard they added ultra oxi to the cleaning power of ti

agree are most likely to pick the winner in november which are michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin across the rust belt, north carolina, florida, arizona across the sunbelt, in those six states anyone can vote by mail for any reason already under current law. >> always great to get your insight and analysis. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >>> you're watching "cnn newsroom." coming up, the white house may be rolling out a second stimulus bill very soon as the unemployment rate continues to soar. we'll explain what the trump administration is considering. >>> after months of crashes on the streets of hong kong, beijing proposes a hugely controversial new security law. i got this mountain bike for only $11. dealdash.com, the fair and honest bidding site. an ipad worth $505, was sold for less than $24; a playstation 4 for less than $16; and a schultz 4k television for less than $2. i won these bluetooth headphones for $20. i got these three suitcases for less than $40. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and see how much you can save. when you say what you're in the mood for, the xfinity voice re

that would hurt you less in florida and arizona and michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania than lyingiors and trying to undersell this death count. they have felt it. they know it's true. they have seen the carnage in nursing homes. they have seen the carnage in va clinics. they'ved ha frien ehad friends, members, and loved ones dying. you can't lie that away. i know you can't do it, but if you could, you might want to just tell the truth. i know you don't have it in you, but if you did, that would help you with seniors. you could tell the truth while the country was reopening. you can't even wear a mask, so what's it -- what am i doing? >> a mask protects other people from you. president trump, joe -- >> he's around world war ii vets. >> noi know. >> he wouldn't wear a mask. whatever. >> president trump talked about carnage in his inaugural address. i guess, now, we see what he's talking about. the coronavirus appears to be spreading from cities to rural communities with a higher share of older and at-risk residents. a "wall street journal" analysis of data compiled by johns hopkins

michigan. they're nervous about pennsylvania. nervous about florida.mp is going and asking these poor senate republicans who are at risk of losing their own seats to do something that the attorney general, donald trump's own roy cohn refuses to do, and that is to pretend that they committed any crime. barr himself said i'm going to be looking at the fbi. i'm going to see if -- if people did not follow the rules, if they took short cuts inside the fbi. but no, barr said, i'm not going to be investigating obama or biden. and why did he say that? because there's nothing there. and susan rice's email that -- that -- who's the guy, the dni guy? what's his namen. >> grenell. >> grenell. >> yeah. >> he's acting. >> yeah, he releases in rice's email seriously, it's like joe friday. just like just the facts. by the book. it's like -- >> oh, my goodness. >> there is straight lace and straightforward as you can possibly be. they got nothing. and so he's going and he's trying to beat up republican senators on the hill and asking them to do something that his own r

both sides admit, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, north carolina, florida, and arizona.e've seen numbers coming out of all six of those states, whether on the metrics i laid out that have been bad for trump the course of the last three weeks, and then you plthrow in the democratic states that aren't really battlegrounds but you'd want in play if you're the biden campaign. georgia, texas. both states you pointed out have had discouraging numbers for donald trump. >> add arizona to that. >> well, i think arizona is a core battleground state a this point. not a democratic reach state. joe biden looks good in arizona, too. you think about it right now, the president's people sit around saying, "joe biden is in his basement." i'll tell ya, i don't recommend you do this, but if you watch trump tv, their youtube channel, they have an hour every night on trump tv right now, reaching a lot of people. go spend time and watch it. mcconnell was on there the other night, attacking obama. if you watch the channel and see what the messages are they're driving on joe biden, it is, he's

sun belt like arizona, texas, and georgia, along with battle disse ground states like michigan, pennsylvania and floridar says she's confident they can make a big play. >> this just gives you a little bit of a sense of how we're going to tailor our program state by state. we believe to win we must have a customized approach in each battleground state. there is no cookie cutter approach. eric: susan crabtree, senior white house and national political core spoon doesn' corl clear politics. they're looking at the polls and what do they see? >> we're in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic where some 80,000 people have died and we're at 20% unemployment, getting up to great depression levels and it's not a complete blowout against the incumbent president trump. the fact that this remains a close race, real clear politics average of polls has it nationally that biden is only ahead by 4.5%, it's really what is sort of surprising here. that's because, a, people long ago submitted their opinions about president trump and joe biden and the democratic party is so deeply divided between the mainstream and the l

arizona, florida, north carolina, wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan. we know both sides will fight for, and then they're on in iowa. right? the seventh state. so in the spring of donald trump's re-election, he's putting money into a state he won by nine points in 2016. that's a dangerous time for the trump team and then you look at those battleground states. the markets on the air, grand rapids, michigan, in the pittsburgh suburbs. in the panhandle of florida. >> oh, boy. >> joe, you tell me what it means for donald trump in may that he needs to reinforce, shore up his base in the panhandle of florida in may of 2020? >> yikes. >> that is a flashing red warning sign. not just they're in trouble but know they're in trouble. >> what it means is that they really are trying to pull everybody out in northwest florida to compensate for all the votes they're going to lose in the rest of the area. grand rapids is far different. that's obviously romney territory. they were skeptical of donald trump originally. but then went to him, but obviously, they're in gran

florida. the biggest reason these high death rates are in blue states like new york, michigan, pennsylvania, isause their leaders forced infected patients into nursing homes, something that governor desantis did not do. and we're seeing that was the right call. charles: the nursing home part of this i think is still under, really underreported. even in new jersey, half the patients or folks who passed away were in nursing homes. that is a big mistake. one thing not known that is going to be a mistake. the idea that the media had already deemed desantis a villain. you have to -- college students come down. ron desantis pointed out most of them were from new york city. you see it a lot now. when i read headlines over the last couple weeks, look out, it is going to happen to the south, any moment now trump country, i feel like sometimes they're wishing, i hate to say it, they're hoping, wishing things to happen instead of responsible reporting instead of let chips fall where they may. >> it is a little disturbing they are not celebrating how well things are going in states reopening like florida a

matter what happens on this front, the six major swing states, arizona, florida, north carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan a vote by mail. vote by mail will be a big part of the 2020 election. is it disconcerting? is it worrying? does it raise concerns? if you know the president, who already wanted to put political pressure on the postal service to punish an enemy, amazon.com and jeff bezos, is the president maybe by installing a political crony at the top of the postal service, is there anything to be concerned about when the integrity of the vote will be in stake and in the hands, in many respects of the postal service? i think there's a lot to be concerned about. you heard democrats on the left and republicans, people like are bill kristol on the right, taking steps to make sure nothing knee pharnefarious is h with the mile and a service run by trump's crony. >>> coming up -- are we losing on the economic front? a new labor report details the damage with millions of americans out of work. those new jobs numbers are straight ahead on "morning joe." ♪ ♪ severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ..

in arizona and michigan and florida there is a tradition of voting by mail. people have done it. in north carolina and pennsylvania, and wisconsin. not much about one in 20. if you're up to four in ten or five in ten. there's a huge challenge and it's not clear the states are up to to. >> we'll be watching and following. appreciate it. alarming spikes in new crisis cases hitting some states now including several in the south. what's behind the increase. next. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take

in arizona and michigan and florida there is a tradition of voting by mail. people have done it. in north carolina and pennsylvania, and wisconsin. not much about one in 20. if you're up to four in ten or five in ten. there's a huge challenge and it's not clear the states are up to to. >> we'll be watching and following. appreciate it. alarming spikes in new crisis coronavirus cases hitting some states now including several in the south. what's behind the increase. next. ♪ this virus is testing all of us. and it's testing the people on the front lines of this fight most of all. so abbott is getting new tests into their hands, delivering the critical results they need. and until this fight is over, we...will...never...quit. because they never quit. >>> troubling new numbers tonight with more states reporting an increase in coronavirus cases. 17 states now showing an increase in the number of reported cases, 12 showing a decrease. that's nearly twice as many reporting increases at the week before. although the first wave of coronavirus hammered big cities like new york, there are fears that southern states like alab

florida, texas and georgia. we learned what not to do from new york, new jersey, pennsylvania and michigan. >> well, sean, sometimes anecdotal is actually the best way figuring out what's going on here. i can tell you this. you know i'm in los angeles and when i walk around the street -- and by the way, i don't wear a mask, i walk my dog like a real rebel out there. people are coming up to me, i saw you one "hannity" last night, saw your own "tucker" last night and what they are hinting to me is they are finally going, yeah, i'm one of you guys too. i'm a freethinker or i'm a conservative or i am a libertarian or i am something besides progressive authoritarian that we have been fed here. the idea that eric garcetti, our mayor here in l.a. or gavin newsom who used to be the governor and pelosi, the idea that liberals care about us, progressives love power so they can lock people down for three more months. how about tell us why? it's beautiful outside. i can tell you another thing, partly anecdotal also but regular people are starting to break this stuff. people are now visiting each other, i said this earlier, my

his key objective is making sure he wins michigan, making sure he wins wisconsin, pennsylvania, hanging on to florida, keeping arizona. that's the way you talk to trump. you put it in very transactional terms. he is a transactional president, and he works that way. there's a transaction to be done here. we need to keep these senate seats. you need to do this, or not do this, not send out so many tweets, in order we do that. start with less ambivalence on testing there. >> by the way, not just screwing up testing, mika, but one thing after another. setting up white house guidelines, working with his doctors and settingguidelines, day, going against the guidelines. firing, for political reasons, a guy that's been with the government for years, getting the vaccine ready, firing him because he didn't like the fact that the guy didn't kowtow to him. again, just one thing after another. every day, it's the president acting more and more reckless. every day, it's the republicans going deeper under the ground. >> what is their -- >> and every day, it is more and more americans dying. again, we're over 80,000

it'll run statewide on facebook, instagram, and youtube in pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, floridanorth carolina, and arizona. it maps out the truth. take a look. >> early january, donald trump is first warned of the virus. he ignores it. >> we have it totally under control. it's going to be just fine. >> defends the chinese government instead. january 30th, trump's own cabinet secretary warns of a pandemic, raising concerns that the chinese government isn't being transparent. trump calls him an alarmist. >> we think we have it very well under control. we're working very closely with china and other countries. we think it is going to have a very good ending for us. >> the next day, the dow plummets 600 points. desperate to protect the stock market from sliding further, trump continues to deny the threat and praised the chinese government. >> we're doing great in our country. china, i spoke with president xi, and they're working very, very hard. i think it is all going to work out fine. looks like by april, in theory, when it comes a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. >> but

pennsylvania, joe biden is up 7. michigan up 6, arizona up 4, wisconsin up 3, florida up 3. now i know several of those are within what we call the par begin of error, amy, but is this a headache for donald trump at this point. and if so, i mean how much of a headache. >> well, judy from the very beginning of this reaction-- re-election campaign for the president we theu that there was going to be major question was what is president trump feeling. if you look at the polling throughout his presidency you can see that he has a pretty low ceiling. he has very rarely gotten above 45% job approval rating which suggests it will be hard for him to get above the level he got in the last election which was 46% was his popular vote total. the democrats are helping that that actually is his feeling and that democrats will win, joe biden will win because he is going to win over those candidates who didn't vote for donald trump but also didn't vote for hillary clinton. think about a place like wisconsin. 22,000 votes, a very narrow margin that donald trump won that state. the number of

it could happen in pennsylvania, michigan again and the reason why we need to be concerned is because there was something like this happening in florida as much i didn't flip the u.s. senate seat there or governors race there but president trump was tweeting, go with election night returns, don't allow the other vote to affect the results. we don't trust them. so if that affected the presidential election this november, we could have a metastasizing cancer if you will as urges lawsuit after lawsuit debating on which is the right result. it could be another bush versus gore's going to the courts but as rick pointed out the reason why bush versus gore ended the election was al gore accepted defeat after the supreme court ruling. he didn't take his fight on to congress. this year's flu losers, as rick said, might not accept defeat even a judicial defeat and says i'm still gonna keep fighting and if the dispute goes to congress, congress does not have adequate rules goes back to the 12th amendment we talked about different aspects of the 12th amendment to 12 the number doesn't tell us what to do if there is a fight over who won. this surf

michigan leads at 22%, pennsylvania at 19%. new york and california. other states are lagging because they haven't had a big effect on the economy as some of the coastal states had experienced florida with a 2% insured unemployment rate, their problem is that they can't process the flood of claims coming 64% have received benefit. a lot of americans going without the benefits they need to get by day to day reporting for cnbc business news >>> to hear more when our colleagues speak to larry kudlow, advisor to president trump. don't miss that interview at 15:00 cet. >>> the international labor organization warns nearly half of the global workforce are in immediate danger of having their work flow destroyed. >> in the second quarter of this year, we are looking at the equivalent of the loss of 305 million jobs that is an extraordinary figure. figure it more extraordinary when you figure three weeks ago that estimate was 105 million. we are going downhill still. >> adding that will not be sufficient to guide the damage caused by this outbreak. >> one of the features of this terrible pandemic is the type of international common purpose we did see in the past, we did see in the crisis of

florida among the stays going down. these states in yellow are about the same. you see across the southeast here and entire west coast and other states as well and massachusetts and michigan and pennsylvania about the same holding steady. governors there some reopening and some wants more time. georgia is about the same but it reopens. it was among the first state to do so and you can see a spike in recent days. the five days moving average is about flat, plateau. these states are going up and essentially the entire middle of the country. the state by state and day by day case count still going up. you look up northern new england is going up and tennessee still going up. these cases going up even though some of these states are reopening. you can see why the governor has it. that line is plateau at best maybe going up. if you look up here, virginia is still waiting. 50 states and 50 plans depending where you live. 15 states about the same. 15 going down the green. imagine if you live here, you are surrounded by everything that's different. maybe your state is reopening or the next state is going up. we learn this new report projecting cases that are going up. >> depends on where you come

michigan, 19.8% people have filed for unemployment. pennsylvania, 16%. florida, 9%.olina, 12.7%. wisconsin, 12% file for unemployment benefits. good luck. >> all right. still ahead on "morning joe," florida, florida, florida. it is a critical battleground in presidential politics. and we'll talk to one of the state's rising stars, congresswoman val demings. the latest on the 2020 campaign and her efforts to deal with the pandemic. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. n-n-n-no-no flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair®. we've got the retinol that gives you results in one week. not just any retinol. accelerated retinol sa. for not only smoother skin in one day, but younger-looking skin in just one week. and that's clinically proven. result