i think in the end though those of us those of us who reported on the fogel the thing was fogle case of the spy contra case or in the hospital when the when the guy was rolled out with the if you remember reno with the wigs and the compass is it cetera i think you know. i think it was it was logical for people to look around and go well the question well who made the cold who said that was on the plane and how wrong word that you know and does that did that suggest that the u.s. had no visual on fogle that they didn't know where you was and what does that say about the state of u.s. intelligence on the guy and well kind of operation are they running to try and get a hold of him it seems pretty clear that they haven't gone next or near or what but that he's a he's taken a pretty clever step i think in the in cosying himself as does the condo to up to whatever protection russia can offer him in this situation. i agree except for now i get in here coming out and they cannot hear anything really if it's because i've been here with the better ok really i think it's. going to be fascinated

thing was fogle case of the spike. when the when the guy was rolled out with the if you remember really with the wigs and the compass is it's not a i think you know. i think it.

that makes us optimistic, and today robert fogle pasted away, and people thinking about hard data, we should tip our hat to him and appreciate how wealthy we are. i say this because when glenn and i approached this, we were both from relatively humble backgrounds and what makes it so amazed by the opportunities this country has given us. >> to your point about income inequality, there are two kinds. income inequality that comes from rent, seeking as opposed to the natural outcome of market forces, is deeply troubling. we talk about that in the book, and here's a case in great power decline and this massive rent-seeking can lead to that income inequality. >> another question up here. and then two more questions. >> i just want to start by referring to the famous philosopher, pogo. we have met the smiled he is if. i'm a child of the 60s and 70s. now in my 60s, and i see myself as part of a generation which grew up thinking we could have everything we wanted. he had politicians who gave it to us. we borrowed our way because of our power, and allows to us basically have everything. we hav

chris, one of the most interesting moments was in your interview, your comments last night with ben fogleand contributor who had gone because his sister was giving birth and so he actually was inside the lindo wing last night and experienced firsthand what the security was like inside. but it's also notable, anabel roberts, that last night the longer statement that the duke and duchess issued was thanks and gratitude to all of the staff and patients and sort of normal life blood of that hospital, all the people who had had been so kind to them and put up with their presence. because certainly it had to be somewhat disruptive to all the other patients and visitors at the hospital. >> that's right. yes. in fact, there's been another tweet just in the last few minutes from their office, again expressing their thanks to the staff at the hospital and saying that they've been look after incredibly well but you can imagine the disruption that they must cause to the other women in labor or going in to that wing for check-ups who are pregnant ladies going in for check-ups to have all this commotio