they now have a number of similar number of officers they have at the, if you will, u folsom street fair. are there like size consideration and number of patrons that go into it. >> the scheduling of the etc. cot there's 23 hundred and 50 thousand and more than 2 hundred and 50 attendees would be the difference in pricing. >> you said there's certain guidelines for certain parties if they feel there's a certain party that might be out of control there're more. >> i know there are discussions and is alcohol going to be served and what kind of alcohol is that a public event or paid event to determine exactly you know how many people are going to be there and how long the alcohol is going to be served and a okay. and finally. thank you very much for fielding all those questions. i'm just wondering is there an amount of time that the organization has to be novelist of when 10 b is going to, required of them >> i believe in the transportation code 6 there's a deadline in there i believe a couple of weeks prior to the event they finally lists the permitting. >> can 10 b added to that later. >>

i wasn't able to mention in my 3 minutes has to do with the doory alley fair and the folsom street fair especially the folsom it's a huge event and takes over particle all of folsom and side streets. i'm happy to say that the leadership there has licensed to the complaints about the music and etsz sound level for the music. one thing i've done is this this year folsom there were 3 music stages okay. and what that meant was like if you came from folsom and lovingly accounting street where there's lots of you loud music and a cage you heard the musk. i walked a block you away and you didn't and two blocks away i could have a conversation. you know, we find that folsom fair there's an accomodation for people who love the loud music and some of us who don't like the loud sounds from the speakers. i'm going to be bringing up this with the san francisco pride folks they're having a meeting tonight and a week from tonight and at both those meetings i'm going to bring those issues we need to not allowing the radio station in civic center to be blaring out music from the main stages or from a fe

i was wondering have you had the sheriff's office been asked to help with gay pride or folsom street fair or anything like that in the past in a large capacity >> no, when we're asked new years eve for example, this is not a 10 b matter this is what is a mutual aid that's not dpeentd so we provide weeks ago and squads depending upon on the size as we did when bart police asked us we try to be as xhomd as possible. i'm incentive to the subjective over time. so it the promoter or whoever is receiving the bill that's why it's important that the overtime we occur in assisting no question i want my deputies to get some more 10 b action because it goes to the great good of the city and a having is there ever an incidents the police department has the first right of refusal do they ever refuse >> i think they make calculated staffing decisions that's wise on their part. in lulz of is staffing they feel like they need some assistance they wisely decide that. but it's not guilty on events as large. on 49ers it was doesn't when we provided the weeks ago but america's cup what have you if there's a