so, fran, let me go back. a child that is within one of these families, they're dealing with a problem many of them themselves in order to adapt, either develop a mental or a substance use pattern themselves. how-what happens in that dynamic? i think kim described it very well with the total dysfunction of the family and the family, if we don't intervene and find ways to go in and bring services to help them, the child can then get so confused and so frustrated from trying to be a parent and being a child at the same time, they separate themselves from their peers. and then they become frustrated and depressed and look for other outlets to get attention. as for the parents, they go through a similar issue: they get frustrated and they have a guilt ridden inner core that then possibly brings them closer to having-becoming a depressed state or possibly medicating themselves to make them feel better. so we have to get services in there. we have to get education so that we can begin to link the services and begin

fran tarkenton joins me to tell me what is going on. police clash with protesters and fire rubber bullets into the crowd. the protests seem to worry investors here as stocks slid late in the day the dow well 101 points. media jumped all over romney's remark. you hear very little when his opponent makes the gaff. is obama giving him a free ride? ann coulter is going to weigh in. the candidates are laying out their vision of the economy and the world. >> good evening. >> good evening, larry, foreign policy took front stage in the national campaign today as both candidates were in new york today making their arguments around the world starting with president obama addressing the general assembly today. >> there are no words that excuse the killing of innocence. there is no video that justifies an attack on an embassy. there is no slander that provides an excuse for people to burn a restaurant or cause death and destruction in pakistan. >> meanwhile, mitt romney was over at the clinton initiative where he talked about how he would handle fo

fran townsend broke this story moments ago. also on the phone johnny isakson and michael turner, republican from ohio. senator isakson, your reaction to this information? >> well, this thing mystifies me. we have an administration apparently without a policy. we're looking the other way, we're referring to the tragic death of an ambassador as a bump in the road. i do not understand the continuance of the president to look the other way and not admit this was obviously a terrorist attack. i cannot believe the fbi is not on the ground yet an there's not enough cooperation to get them there. >> congressman turner, if the fbi investigators have yet to step foot in benghazi, how is the investigation supposed to be credible? >> obviously it can't be. this goes right to the failure of this administration's policies in libya. we have to put it in context of a year ago. the president spent nearly a billion u.s. dollars with warships off the coast of libya attacking the moammar gadhafi regime for the purposes of transitioning libya witho

. >> fran toungzen who worked in the bush administration, told us she was meeting with the ambassador recently at a hotel in tripoli, although he arrived with a armored vehicle, he had no security at all with him, and that surprised her at the time. i mean, it seems that i have never seen an ambassador who does not have in a war zone and a place like libya with threats who does not have a larger entourage of security. is this an intelligence failure? i mean, what do you attribute this to? >> i attribute it partially to the courage of chris stevens. he lived in a hotel in benghazi during the fighting, but it is also clear that the security people should have given him more security, particularly in benghazi. as you know, that country is divided very badly, and there's significant competition, and there's far more islamic influence in that part of libya than in tripoli. >> previously as you mention, people from the obama administration said they felt this was not a planned attack, sort of an offshoot of this video. but the director of the counterterrorism center said that it did appear

also on the phone is fran townsend, cnn national security contribute for. last week, fran visited libya. ian, you saw hundreds storming the u.s. embassy there in cairo. who are these protesters exactly? how widespread is this ageer? and what is the situation with the americans in that embassy right now since the ambassador live there is and a group of marines are there? >> reporter: the marines who are there are part of the diplomatic mission and it's one of the large els contingents of marines protecting a u.s. embassy in the world. but these protesters, they were predominantly islamists, people angry about a film that came out which they say depicts muhammad in a bad light, which they say insults the prophet. they say it calls him a womanizer, a homosexual, someone who molests children, things that muslims find offensive. so there was roughly a thousand people out there, we saw a handful of people storm the embassy perimeter. they tore down the american flag. security forces were off on the side. they did show up to separate the protesters in the embassy.

cnn national security correspondent fran townsend joins us now. as we often mention, fran is a former white house homeland security adviser and a member of the security adviser committee and was recently in libya with her xworm, mccann drew & forbes. also with us, bob bear and we have the daily beast. you have new reporting. >> so you understand when this happens and the fbi opens the investigation one of the first thing is go to the state department and say, please request permission for to us enter the country, get to the crime scene, benghazi, and please request that we will have the security and the ability to do that, that we will have access to the crime scene, that we will have access to any individuals that the libyans take into custody. none of that has -- while the fbi has made that request, we found out from senior law enforcement officials, while the fbi has made it to tripoli, they never made it to benghazi. >> haven't been on the ground in benghazi? >> no, they have no. the fbi has finally made it to tripoli, they haven't been on the

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fran, appreciate it. bob baer. and jomana, stay safe. >>> senator john mccain is a long-time supporter of freedom for libya. he supported president obama's action to remove gadhafi. he's been critical of how the administration has handled the benghazi aftermath. we spoke earlier today. take a look. what do you make of the response by the administration in the early days, ambassador rice, and now what they're saying now, they're now saying it was a terrorist attack. the president diuse the word terror early on in the rose garden, but we heard from ambassador rice, who is saying link this to the video that's been released. what do you see as going on? >> i see a fundamental misunderstanding in the larger picture and then on the smaller picture. on the smaller picture, they were either incredibly naive or willfully deceiving the american people. i don't know which, but to think an attack of this nature with heavy weapons, mortars, and a very sophisticated direct fire and indirect fire, that somehow that could be the r

fran? final thoughts? i'll build off of what nancy said. i think for me, it's the knowing where to look for help and i think you can-the formal system for me is the states. everyone lives-states, the head of a territory or a tribal elder and we have to remember that the states and the communities must work together in collaboration. and that but at the same time, we have to keep focused on the level of care each individual needs in a family. not everyone needs the same services, but if we work together both outside the home and inside the home and the last thought is we've done a lot of talking about addiction. addiction has been learning very quickly from the consumers of mental health and i think people who have been living or are living with mental health disorders they call themselves consumers and this movement is teaching us a lot about bringing these resources together. kim? recovery is a process, it is not an event. it unfolds over time and it changes over time, and so the services and the supports that are needed will change over t

>> fran, what was his security detail like? and i'm not sure you can comment on that. i remember when i was going in the early days of iraq, he had a huge security detail with him, blackwater folks. did the ambassador have that? >> anderson it's funny you should ask me this what was striking to me and i commented to him when he arrived. he arrived in an armored car and obviously with a driver. i didn't -- his security did not come in to the hotel with him to meet me. he had no visible security presence when he met me in tripoli. . he walked in he was greeted by other libyans who clearly recognized him at the hotel and came up to him very warmly and thanked him for u.s. assistance. but he had no visible security presence with him when he walked in. >> bob baer does that surprise you? >> absolutely. there's no way that man should have been without security, without western security. there is no libyan security to provide it and he should've had it. there were so many attacks, so many threats hanging over libya. frankly, there's no excuse for it. >> people say, though abo

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fran, thank you very much. on wednesday we reported that a source familiar with ambassador stevens' thinking said in the months bore his death, ambassador stevens talked about being worried about what he called the never-ending security threats in benghazi. we also reported that the ambassador specifically mentioned the rise in islamic extremism, the growing al qaeda presence in libya and said he was on an al qaeda hit list. the information for that report like all of cnn's reporting was carefully vetted. some of that information was found in a personal journal of ambassador stevens in his handwriting. we came upon the journal through our reporting and notified the family. at their request, we returned that journal to them. we reported what we found newsworthy in the ambassador's writings. a reporter followed up on what we found newsworthy in the ambassador's writings. let us know what you think. we're on facebook, follow me on twitter. i'm tweeting tonight. >>> up next, the attack's political fallout here at h

a senior law enforcement official telling fran townsend the fbi wanted the u.s. military to provide perimeter support in benghazi, protection, in other words, but that request was not granted. fran's a former white house homeland security advisor. she served in the george w. bush administration, currently she sits on the cia external advisory panel and recently visited libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. also joining us, former fbi assistant director, tom fuentes, who has extensive experience investigating attacks on americans overseas, and former cia officer, bob baer. so fran, so the fbi sought military protection to go into benghazi. why didn't they get it? >> well, the answer to that question, i think, is not really clear. so it's not unusual, when you want to set up a security perimeter, you may look to the host country. if the host country is unable or unwilling to provide it, we don't know what the answer to that is, you may ask if you think you need it for u.s. military support, but that's got to go through a process. it needs state department

i completely agree with fran. look, that consulate was overrun and we don't even begin to understand what was lost there. we've lost crypto, files, money, personal documents. we don't even know, this administration is not telling us. the fact that the diary was found in the consulate, and the fact that there wasn't -- i've heard that there's a quick reaction force tried to get to the consulate but was attacked at the airport, benghazi airport. this hasn't been confirmed, but what's happened in libya, we've lost complete control of this. every investigation i've been involved in, whether assassination or blown-up embassy, there's always been a local force or marines to secure the site, otherwise the fbi can't do its work. it just can't. if it's completely wrecked like it was in benghazi, and i think the reason that the state department is so sensitive about your finding the journal is because they've lost control. >> pivoting now, the actual attack, particularly destruction of the so-called annex where u.s. officia