frank figliuzzi is back with us. frank, what does this look like?ocal law enforcement? >> yeah, well, first, good news, i'm glad that we're looking at this bulletin to law enforcement. we've already seen reporting again from politico that says there's already been a phone call, one of these massive all-hands phone calls that dhs and fbi run out of washington to state/local agencies, sheriffs and police departments. particularly, intelligence units at those places saying, look, you got to get ready. it's everything that we recommend. monitoring, militia groups, inenhancing security around the drop boxes. you know, the not so good news is here we are, right. it's already well into voting in many states but we're already seeing allegations of intimidation. and here's the challenge faced by law enforcement. you know, getting your deputies, your officers out there, all shifts, on drop boxes, that's -- i don't think anyone ever intended that to happen. but this is where our nation is right now. and then, even from a prosecutor's standpoint. so, arizona, e

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frank figliuzzi, a former fbi assistant director and with me at the table andrew weissmann. they are all msnbc contributors. i start with you, jackie. the committee built on the conversation you and i had yesterday, they accused the united states secret service individuals who had testified before them of lying. any reporting as to whether or not they will make criminal referrals for lying to congress for those individuals? >> that is a question that i literally just asked chairman bennie thompson as we chased him on our way out after the hearing. he didn't have much answers, nor could he say who it was exactly who might have instructed bobby engel and tony arenado to edit or lie or provide answers that investigators have not seen as credible. there were multiple references to secret service witnesses throughout the hearing who did not provide answers that tracked with the evidence that the committee received. as you saw throughout the course of the hearing, particularly during congressman agular and schiff's portions, there were emails. as early as the night before january

joining me now, msnbc national security analyst frank figliuzzi. he is the former assistant director for counter intelligence at the fbi. frank, good to see you. a new calling for the l.a. times reads, quote, demonization, dehumanization, the sensitization and denial, that is the age old formula to turn a regular if the structural -- talk us through how conspiracy theories fuel the kind of extremism that we are seeing international politics. >> this is a virus, and obviously that has attacked us, and the vector for spreading and transmitting that virus is social media. and our leaders, like, they were not voted for them or, not including the former president. and so, the members of the gop for example have come out, the handful, and offered support and well wishes for paul pelosi, can do that on a friday. and then, on saturday, turn around, and actually, continue to incite the kind of demonization, they dehumanization, that allows people to treat others as less than human. and once you jumped and that, once you've jumped that gap from to inhuman, vi

joining me is congressman eric swalwell of california and former fbi official frank figliuzzi, msnbc national security analyst. i want to go to you first, congressman, because the threats against lawmakers have skyrocketed. and january 6th seems to have only made it worse. up 144% from 2017 when donald trump was inaugurated, to 2021. it's become almost epidemic. you yourself have faced them. what do you make of what's going on in california? >> yeah, it was always inevitable -- >> i should say what went on. >> yeah. it was always inevitable this was going to happen. i want to first wish paul pelosi a swift recovery, and for your viewers to know, you know, this man is a generous, kind, charitable soul. someone who loves his wife dearly and his children, but i remember talking to paul on january 6th, once we were allowed back in the capitol. i went to the speaker's office to see how the staff was doing and i saw powell consoling the staff because he was at the capitol as this all had gone down, and he is such a sweet and kind man and so for this to happen to him, as inevitable as it wa

ryan, also with us, frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi.is also an msnbc national security analyst. ryan, what do we know and not know about the attack at this hour? >> reporter: well, the biggest open question right now, jose, is motive. there doesn't appear to be a lot of clear answers right now as to why paul pelosi was targeted inside his san francisco home early this morning. we do know that the attack was violent, and it was enough for him to be rushed to the hospital. he is in the hospital now and the spokesperson for pelosi's office says that he is receiving excellent care and is expected to make a full recovery. the speaker herself, though, was not in san francisco at the time. and of course, jose, this comes against the backdrop of an increasing number of threats directed at members of congress and their families. capitol police put out a report over the summer that said there's been a 144% increase in these type of threats, and it has made the job of capitol police keeping these families safe one of their highest priorities. now,

frank figliuzzi is back with us. first, frank, tell me how real this threat is.oss our fingers and hope for best in the midterms. i'm here to tell you the threat and risk picture has already developed. in key precincts, states, counties, from local county, state, secretary of state, they've put people in place for the express purpose of fulfilling a strategy. what's the strategy? look at steve bannon, who has said we don't need to win. we simply need to make you doubt the outcome. look at roger stone who has said on video, we just claim victory. that's all we have to do. >> rudy said it too on election day. >> exactly. i don't want anybody to feel surprised when we have near violence or actual violence around the midterms in certain places. and it's not hard to figure out where that's going to be. you develop a matrix. one line in the matrix would be where have the people been elected where they're placed there surely to intervene in the vote. particularly focus on secretaries of state who are there for one purpose only, intervene in the vote. then look at the ke

kimberly, it is a pleasure to see you and hear from you and frank figliuzzi, thank you for scaring use national leaders in the efforts to zpand the right to vote and push back against all of this, stacy abrams will be our guest to discuss her own race for governor in georgia. her advice on how to defeat election deniers and what she makes for the silence from republicans over the herschel walker scandal. and an outpour of aid to the ukrainian people to help them prepare for the winter ahead. our friend and colleague cal perry is back in kyiv with new reporting on that front and igor will be our guest as ukraine's stunning grains on the battlefield have prompted some of vladimir putin's battlefield successes and the dangers that still lie ahead for them. "deadline white house" comes back after a quick break. don't go anywhere. don't go anywhere. until i finally found new downy rinse and refresh! unlike many other products, downy rinse & refresh doesn't cover odors or leave residues... it helps remove them. it's safe on all fabrics and gentle on skin -- just add to your fabric softener

journey, brian barber, justice correspondent for insider and msnbc national security analyst frank figliuzzie author of the fbi way, inside the bureau's code of excellence. frank, your thoughts on the addition of raskin to this investigation tells you,. >> this is significant, to be clear here, david raskin is one of the most experienced national security prosecutors within the doj umbrella. and why is it significant? he is not assigned to washington d.c.. he's not assigned to the attorney's office in washington d.c., but to the department of justice headquarters in washington. he is from kansas city, missouri. that's where he prosecutes now in the u.s. attorney's office. they are bringing him in because he has been there and done that. he has prosecuted successfully, not only with terrorists and spies, but most recently with the fbi intelligence analyst, who brought hundreds of classified documents home with them. he got the win in that case. he has done it, it has been there, this is a sign that they are seriously considering prosecution. you don't bring david raskin in unless you are dead

from julia's posting, she also quotes frank figliuzzi, former fbi. he says, it's common prior to events, which is what the secret service said to her today. but for law enforcement to talk to potential protest groups, with acting groups, that's one thing, but regular contact with a militia group raises a lot of concerns, which mirrors what you are saying. let me bring in paul butler. we have seen how the criminal referrals for steve bannon and mark meadows played out. do you expect similar referrals of key trump allies now? it would subject there would be possible obstruction looked at from the hearing itself. are we in a different phase of the process? >> i think with some key witnesses, the house panel has to figure out very quickly what it wants to do. with donald trump on the other hand, he is never going to appear before that panel and answer questions. the only real suspense is whether trump will dis congress by ignoring the subpoena or whether he will try to fight it in court. ignoring it is consistent with the disrespect for the legal process

. >> frank figliuzzi, how long has it been since you have been in the studio?closed down. >>> moments ago the herschel walker campaign event in georgia, we showed you that, we mentioned that, it finally got under way. he's now speaking to voters. if he takes questions from reporters there, we'll go to it live. >>> on the front lines, ukrainian volunteer soldiers who liberated the kharkiv region from russia are recounting harrowing stories of battle. stay tuned for this next. >> when you see this, how are you feeling? >> angry. angry. angry angry. whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪ ever leave your clothes in the dryer and find a wrinkled mess? try downy wrinkle guard fabric softener! wrinkle guard penetrates deep into fibers, leaving clothes so soft, wrinkles don't want to stick around. make mornings smoother with downy wrinkle guard fabric softener. ♪♪ here goes nothing. hey greg. um...hello? it's me, your heart! really? yes! recording an ekg in 30 seconds. tada! wow that was fast! good ne

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frank figliuzzi, fbi for counterintelligence.nes will try to make more money off of this for. but do you buy? it is nikki's really gonna raise more money, do you think he's not scared, or z really crying in his beer somewhere tonight? >> he's got to be a least a little bit spooked here. he's probably in debt for the rest of his life. i don't know if he doesn't understand what's going on here, but the thing is here to for he has found his way out of it. his shell companies. he has found ways out of paying up last lawsuits. the loss slaw suit was $50 million, ghana captain about $55 million. i don't understand he understands the gravity of the situation. this is it. the money that he's raising saw vitamins on his website that will probably end up in the pockets of sandy hook parents. his fans should be aware of that, because eventually they will come after his assets, because he lost this fight. he basically forfeited this lawsuit and now they're fighting over damages. the damages and up being about a billion dollars. >> frank, let

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i mean, that conversation you had with frank figliuzzi yesterday was deeply unsettling on so many differents to fight for democracy because there are those in our country right now who are committed to the idea if they don't win, the country will not -- the country will not survive. and i'm not being hyperbolic. i think that much is at stake. and the reasons why that's the case go all the way back to the moment when we left 600,000 people dead on the battlefield. it's a long-standing crisis, nicole, that we've never resolved. >> you know, matthew, because there is so much that has led to this moment, unprocessed trauma, the increasingly callus nature of our politics without the laws of gravity bringing down the people that practice it, the elevation of trump and the enabling of him, it's all connected. so trump begets herschel walker and moore, frankly the difference may be one reveals where we are and it's a worse place. what is the most crystallizing way to talk about that if you're a democratic candidate or you're liz cheney and you think a democratic candidate should win or if you're in

also frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counter intelligence as well as msnbc national security josh, take us through not just your reporting, but take us through what's happening. what are you trying to gain access to? >> well, we're trying to gain access to the back and forth, nicolle, that's gone on behind closed doors in the federal courthouse. you know, it sounds like maybe it only played out for weeks. but when you look at the records, this has been going on since june in some form or another. it looks like various white house witnesses went in and gave some testimony, but then were stopped from or perhaps decided not to testify on other specific issues about january 6th. and then you had a series of battles in front of chief judge beryl howell who oversees the grand juries at u.s. district court in washington. and all that's gone on behind closed doors with only very limited glimpses of what's happening through some court dockets. and even today, nicolle, we saw lawyers for the former president going into the courthouse and coming out of the courthouse for another one of

frank figliuzzi, i know you as a former fbi man wrote the book on the fbi and how the fbi works.ms and there are those who follow their political instincts rather than their duty. >> indeed, that's true. my last column for msnbc daily addressed this issue of so-called fbi whistle-blowers. i say so-called because they seem to be running to members of congress that are really in the trump camp. jim jordan, ron jones, et cetera. instead of perhaps going through the proper reporting, this email is marked external. so it came from outside the fbi, yet, someone claiming they had access broadly across fbi field officers so running through that in my mind, it's possible. it's possible that this is coming from the retired agent's association or it's coming from the active agent's association and that's interesting but smacks of having a political agenda. if they don't understand black lives matter violence and an attempt to over throw the government and stop a valid election, then they need to find another job. that's the way that goes. there is about 36, 38,000 employees in the fbi. if a