here with us is frank schwaber. he is a member of the german parliament for the social democratic party, and mister sh babbitt, thank you very much for being with us today. we saw a momentous turning point in german foreign policy with planned increase in military spending and arms deliveries to ukraine. why did it take a war by russia for germany to make this move? but you know, we were on the, a lot of the initial prussia because a lot of interests, including for sure your crane didn't understand why we are hesitating with this. but this was a lesson around from, from the 2nd world. what did we start was all over the world. and so it was really a very clear basis of the common basis for all parts in germany that we don't deliver weapons to, to other countries. we make less once an acceptance in the situation of isis and iraq and syria. and this is another one. and at the end to change our politics in germany, i totally, it's take some are some days, but at the end it was changed a lot. and our political approach a