john: fred thompson?h. >> he came here with all of the television cameras and every person that came here has with them, if they are running for president. we walked down the street. i tried to get him to shake hands with somebody, he wanted to just walk down the middle. the story got out that chuck grassley is running for president and he had a movie star with him. john: that turned out to be true. although that tells you something about fred thompson's campaign. the big story right now is the rise of donald trump. i think of iowans as sensible, down to earth, salt of the earth. what is it that has got iowans excited about donald trump? ?hat is the appeal there sen. grassley: i think it is the outrage he expresses. that outrage fits into what you think iowans are concerned about. there is a lot of cynicism about political leaders generally. there is a lot of distrust of washington, d.c. and i think that is what has -- is being shown in a trump candidacy. it also might be shown in the doctor or a couple o

that tells you something about fred thompson's campaign.he big story right now is the rise of donald trump. i think of iowa as sensible, down to earth, salt of the earth. iowa excited about donald trump? sen. grassley: i think it is the .utrage he expresses that outrage fits into what you think iowa is concerned about. there is a lot of cynicism about political leaders generally. there is a lot of distrust of washington, d.c. and i think that is what has been shown in the candidacy. it also might be shown in the doctor or a couple of other people that are running. do you think donald trump could win the iowa caucus? a lot issley: i think unpredictable. four years ago we had michele andmann when the straw poll did very poorly. so i would not want to predict until maybe december. if you ask me that same question, i might be able to answer with more certainty. john: do you think arriving at a helicopter is a good strategy for working the fair? sen. grassley: it is a good strategy to go to the butter cap. -- cow. john: with you take a right? se

rudy giuliani and fred thompson were way away of -- way ahead of john mccain.do, we are committed townhall meetings, house parties, and other events like this in new hampshire and similar events elsewhere around the country. that when people hear about our story and that we did not just take over the unions and special interest groups in washington, we are willing to take over the establishment -- take on the establishment and our own party, we will do what it takes regardless of party to do what's right for america. >> thank you. >> jeb bush said today that he -- that he would seriously consider putting a woman on the ticket if hillary is the nominee. governor walker: i think decisions based on who you put on the ticket for vice president should not be made for political purposes. they should be made first and foremost for who is competent to be the president of the united states. the number one response ability of the vice president is a little morbid. -- responsibility if i were president and something were to happen to me, i would want somebody who is compe

fred thompson is one example. should keep our eye on des moines this week at the iowa state fair. >> don't forget fried -- >> jaken wrapped, listen to the candidates and bring your doctor. worries about the damage trump is causing the gop brand is spiring criticism of the republican national committee chairman reince priebus. he said he's confident the party will have a nominee by march or early april. a got number of strategists think that's wishful thinking anyway, even more so now that trump has upended things. priebus also downplayed trump's debate night refusal to rule out a third party run and many in the party think he should have been tougher. now much of this can be chocked up to jittery republicans looking for someone to blame. how he handles trump is now a big part of the chairman's job evaluation. that's it for "inside politics." thanks for sharing your sunday. "state of the union" with jake tapper starts right now. >>> trump on the attack. his shocking complaint about debate moderator megyn kelly. >>

charles: of course, since 2007 and the of pretty guiliani who was pulling well then fred thompson as 17% and then some of the rival say eventually substance one out. and that is why i think on thursday we will see donald trump is already talking about lower interest rates but by the same token, donald trump is saying that if he was president right now he was shut down the government not just defund planned parenthood this would have crushed the g.o.p. three years ago. >> if he does those two things he does not bad mouth everybody and he does talk about substance. we may be on the verge of something that is brand new. who is not as serious about the issues of many of the republican vin candidates. if i had to put money on it today i would not predict he is the nominee but what do i know? charles: people who said they would definitely vote it was 8 percent now it is 34%. those said never went from 59 percent down at 33% so it is conceivable at this moment he will take his momentum all the way to the white house. >> is conceivable but barely. with howard cosell he finished first as the

the fair bite hillary rodham clinton, mitt romney, joe biden, mike huckabee, rudy giuliani, and fred thompson. an hour.ust over half mr. biden: it's good to be back at the iowa state fair. i just want you all to know, in delaware -- good to see you again, buddy. agriculture is the most important in my state. in fact, to prove it -- to prove it, i brought my secretary of agriculture. [applause] about 8 billion dollars. we are only about a billion dollars. we are little bit smaller. thing i want to do is trespass on your time here, but i want to make a few points. whether youi think are democrat, republican, independent, america has dug into a further deep hole. we find ourselves were isolated in the world. we have been in more trouble, but never as isolated. never with as few country supportive of us. the lastnot know, years i have many united states senator, i have never seen a time when the middle class is as uncertain about their future as they are now. i have seen the more angry. i have seen the more in trouble. but never as uncertain as they are. whether they will be able to leave their n

fred thompson second. these polls mean nothing well hear the experts say that and the average person is saying, are you nuts? you're not paying attention to main street. >> well, i pay attention to history, and i keep getting e-mails and tweets saying, history doesn't necessarily determine the future, and that's true, but over time, patternsízo emerge. history doesn't repeat but it does rhyme, and so the truth is, this is the summer before the election year. people are not as serious about their vote as they will be right before they cast it, whether it's in the primaries or certainly in the general election in november 2016. so, am i taking the polls that seriously? i'm not. i'm thrilled other people are getting excited about politics on account of it, but i would advise you not to put down any bets you can't change later. >> what about the notion, you may not be taking it[e$li woman: as much as i sweat, i always wore black. other clinical antiperspirants didn't work. then i tried certain dri. it's differ

. >> going back eight years, rudy giuliani and former tennessee senator fred thompson were in the top two spots. at the time many observers had completely written off senator john mccain who was the eventual nominee. >> and early polls in 2007 showed hillary clinton trouncing a new candidate on the scene named barack obama. >> early polls are fun and they can teach us a whole lot. but remember, there's a long time between now and iowa. >>> you're watching "news4 today." >> a lady has a snake around her neck first. and he said, well, it's no different than having a dog service animal skitting here an i said, a little bit it is. >> a little different than a dog. a man claimed his pet snake was his service animal. he used it to deal with depression. the manager at a missouri restaurant allowed the couple to stay with that snake. he told the customers that he wasn't allowed to refuse service to a service animal. the americans with disabilities act only defines the service animal as a dog though, so technically that snake does not qualify. >> yeah. >>> glad i wasn't there. well, we know yo

he is reminded me of fred thompson entered the race with a lot of promise, it turned out he didn't have his hard in it and i looked at jeb bush and thought, fine man, and a very good governor a real policy wonk. is he running because everybody told him he's got to run, or because he really want to be president? >> ana, bill is not the first republican i've heard complain about this fire in the bell will problem that they perceive jeb bush has. what's your take? >> i think he has the fire in the belly. i don't think he's running because anybody told him to. in fact, some people told him not to run, including his mother. i think he's doing it because he field the need to serve. he's had a great life economic success, been able to spend time with his family a wonderful, normal life in the private sector. this is a sacrifice that he's taken on with a great deal of humility. i said to him, dude are you crazy? why are you doing this? this is so hard and you've been having a wonderful life. i've been impressed by his answer of the level of look people who have that level of commitment to serve

you had fred thompson and rudy giuliani. this is very early.nt venue for some people polling lower. >> that is what rick santorum said. that is what carli fiorini says. >> if they get a sound byte they will get the attention. it is how it is played after the fact. they have a chance that some minor candidates who did not get to the main debates in past year. >> maybe a chance at a 5:00 p.m. debate. there could be an interesting inter mingling. >> some have 20 years experience of policy and leadership in state or congress. hard to found one sound byte in ten minutes to try to tell the american people why you are different than 16 others on stage. >> right. >> what about donald trump? do you think fox is doing anything in particular to prepare for his presence on that stage? you know you hear reports they don't want him to overshadow the whole thing or they are excited and he had added electricity to it. >> make sure no one takes over. i think there is a conventional wisdom that trump will be the frontrunner and not do anything to mess that up. y

rudy giuliani and fred thompson were way ahead of john mccain. us, we are committed to do townhall meetings, house parties, and other events like this in new hampshire and similar events elsewhere around the country. we believe that when people hear about our story and that we did not just take over the unions and special interest groups in washington, we are willing to take on the establishment and our own party, we will do what it takes regardless of party to do what's right for america. >> thank you. >> jeb bush said today that he -- that he would seriously consider putting a woman on the ticket if hillary is the nominee. have you given any thought to that? governor walker: i think decisions based on who you put on the ticket for vice president should not be made for political purposes. they should be made first and foremost for who is competent to be the president of the united states. that is the number one responsibility of the vice president. morbid, if i were president and something were to happen to me, i would want somebody who is compe

seen other candidates that got in late, we saw rick perry, he got in relatively late years ago, fred thompsonhey didn't fair very well, they weren't prepared, they didn't have an organization in place. >> he also points out that former president bill clinton waited until october in 1991 to announce his candidacy for president in the 1992 election. >> a lot of stats for us. thank you so much. let's get into it. so is hillary's campaign in trouble? let's bring in our panel to react. christian is a vice president at advisory and kristina schaffer and forbes contributor as well. and strategist and finance director of the dnc. thank you all so much for joining us. and it seemed that can just yesterday nobody would even think about or talk about even jumping into the democratic race because everyone just right or wrongly clearly assumed that hillary had it locked up. your reaction. what happened? >> absolutely. yeah, no, i mean suddenly democrats are entering panic zone i had read earlier today. i mean part of it is that it brings back, the fact that politics is all about controlling the narrative.

back in '07, rudy giuliani led the polls for almost a year, he and fred thompson, there was some celebrityere, we may be seeing a bit of that right now, i think this is a very fluid process and it's going to change a lot. i feel they're confident in who has the executive experience, who's created jobs, i'm one of the few who have worn the uniform of the country. who the solution-oriented can't is going to be. >> in the meantime, you have to contend with donald trump, has he finally gone too far? >> we'll see about that. that's frankly up to him. any time a candidate, i don't care who it is, having been the governor of texas and had very close relationship with our men and women in uniform, as a matter of fact, marcus terrell lived with my wife and me for two years. what donald trump said about him and others who have served our country so nobly was really offensive to me. i'm not going to go quiet. i'm going to call mr. trump or anyone else for offending young people giving up their lives for us, it's not a political game with me. so, i'm going to be very strong when it comes. i'm going to

on august 20, 2007, rudy giuliani led with 28.2% of the national vote and surging fred thompson was closing in with 17%. when the dust settled giuliani didn't claim a single delegate and thompson dropped out even before giuliani did. klein points out that 75% of republican voters refuse to support trump n. this week's cnn poll, quote, respondents had an overwhelmingly unfavorable view of him. 59 to 36% in contrast to 37% never heard of scott walker meaning he has room to grow where's trump does not. when republican viewers were asked if they had a better or worse chance of winning the presidency with trump, 58% said they would have a better chance with someone else. the bottom line trump has nowhere to go but down. to consider the question has trump peaked and is he correct that he is the most under rated candidate in the field, joy reid, msnbc national correspondent, you jean robinson, and april ryan, whitehouse correspondent and washington bureau chief for american urban radio. rick tyler, i spent the last hour or so trying to come up with a trick question that gets you to say something c

celebrity in his own right at that the particular point in time was at the top of the polls, as was fred thompsonother celebrity candidate. i don't know whether that has anything to do with it or not, but i wouldn't be surprised. we'll see in the long run, this is a long, long campaign, we'll have to stand up, talk about the things we care about, put our names and our good government on the line relative to our philosophy. so, are you for single payer health care or are you for the states deciding this issues, or you for the people deciding these issues? those are questions that are all going to get asked in debate settings and there's not going to be any dodging them. >> you know, governor, again, i don't know which debate you'll be in or how it'll all sort out. i don't think not to be in the prime time debate might actually be a favor for those in the early debate and that they don't have to compete or risk getting the oxygen sucked out of the room, i don't mean to disparage you or your counterparts or donald trump, but it might be a better venue to be in the early debate because more of a chan

fred thompson was the other one. a man who spent a lot of time on that screen. i have had my issues with donald trump. i talked about donald trump from the standpoint of being an individual who was using his celebrity rather than his conservatism. how can you run for the republican nomination and be for single-payer health care? i asked that with all due respect. and nobody nobody on either one of these stages has done more than i have done and the people of the state of texas to deal with securing that border. we sent our texas ranger recon, parks and wildlife wardens, i deployed the national guard after i stood on the ramp in dallas texas, looked the president of the united states in the eye and said "mr. president, if you won't secure the border texas will." that's exactly what we did. we need a president that doesn't just talk a game. but a president that's got real results. >> one after another. governor perry, and others gramled with the trump femme nonnon. one way or another. the rest will likely do the same tonight. we will all get to see how donald trum

a celebrity in his own right at that particular point in time, was at top of the polls, as was fred thompson, another celebrity candidate. so, i don't know whether that has anything to do with it or not but i wouldn't be surprised. trish: so governor perry is out there saying it is just celebrity. guy, i think it might be something more than that. >> name recognition and celebrity is a big deal. i think we're in sort of the reality television era. there is more to it and i described it in my previous answer. there is confluence of events and phenomena that are leading to donald trump being, i mean indisputably, i'm cringing but i'm going to say it, donald trump is indisputably right now the republican frontrunner. whether he has lasting power, whether he has staying power, whether he can convince voters he is actually serious and he is truly a conservative in the all the positions he is espousing now that he rejected just a few years ago, that the conversion is authentic, he has a lot of hurdles to clear. trish: guy, why do you have to cringe when you say that? the guy is right out in front.

fred thompson was the other one, a man who spends a lot of time on that screen. i've had my issues with donald trump. i talked about donald trump from the standpoint of being an individual who was using his celebrity rather than his conservatism. how can you run for the republican nomination and be for single payer health care? i mean, i ask that with all due respect. and nobody, nobody on either one of these stages has done more than i've done and the people of the state of texas to deal with securing that border. we sent our texas ranger recon teams. we sent our parks and wildlife wardens. i deployed the national guard after i stood on the ramp in dallas, texas and looked the president of the united states in the eye and said, mr. president, if you won't secure the border, texas will. and that's exactly what we did. we need a president that doesn't just talk a game, but a president that's got real results. >> all right. i want to ask that same question, because it's true really of all of you on this stage, that like it or not donald trump is -- there's a huge d

something senator fred thompson found out the hard way.hen he arrived at the laid back fairground wearing expensive looking loafers. topps thompson insist they'd were not gucci, the damage was done. why risk it? for the hearts and mind of the iowa voters. and their lasting impression, good and bad can come from the soapbox. this is where mitt romney uttered the line that dogged him throughout the campaign. >> we can raise taxes on people! >> corporation. >> corporation. [ indiscernible ] >> reporter: follow these simple guidelines you should be fine. eat the fried goods. admire the butter cow, and mingle with the locals. and most of all just enjoy the ride. >> and only imagine what fun this weekend will bring. we'll be right back. strawberries should sing. lettuce should be dirty. dressing, clean. debates should be healthy. hatchets buried. tables should be full. and good food should be good for you. we're not saying these are the rules we should all live by. but it's a good place to start. panera. food as it should be. a new sea chance to

so watch out, fred thompson. >> you know what lindsey graham was? he was the exact opposite the polar opposite of carly fiorina. >> yes. >> you think about it. she was concise, she was there, she was focused. and i'm not sure where he was. let's move on. >> meandering. >> some of trump's other memorable responses last night. >> i don't think you heard me. you're having a hard time tonight. >> when they call i give. and you know what? when i need something from them -- with hillary clinton i said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. you know why? she had no choice because i gave. i gave to a foundation. i have never gone bankrupt by the way. i have never. but out of hundreds of deals -- >> but sir? >> excuse me. >> that's your line but your companies have gone bankrupt. >> what am i saying? out of hundreds of deals that i've done hundreds on four occasions i've taken advantage of the laws of this country. this country right now owes $19 trillion. and they need somebody like me to straighten out that mess. [ cheers and applause ] >> greg a lit

rudy giuliani and fred thompson led in 2007 at this point, and let me also add that president obama wasdown 22 points to hillary at this point. so while polls are interesting to watch and polls are interesting to report on, they're not good indicators of who the nominee's going to be. >> we've made that point over and over. we know that this force, this hurricane of donald trump continues to suck up all of the attention, but he is now being pushed more on policy and the direction he'd like this country to go specifically. in the past he's answered with trust me, multiple times, and now he's told the new york times that when you're dealing, and that's what i am, i'm a dealer, you go in with a certain flexibility, you sort of wheel and deal. that seems to be part of his policy strategy right now. but he did make very pointed comments on fox news about planned parenthood. let me play what he said. >> let's say there's two planned parenthoods in a way. you have it as an abortion clinic, now that's actually a fairly small part of what they do, but it's a brutal part, and i'm totally against

he and fred thompson. i think as americans focus in on what are the characteristics.hat do these people believe in. when they get a chance to look at mr. trumps record and see this guys for single pair healthcare they will see reality tv was interesting. but single-pair healthcare not for us. bill: we have been asking our viewers to send us questions, and man did they send us questions. would i like to know your position on illegal immigration and how you will deal with the illegals already here when you are president. >> i said, listen, that's the place that i don't think americans want to go at this particular point in time. they want to see the borders secure. all way back to ronald reagan we saw this conversation that was had that we would allow these people to come into this country and give them amnesty and we'll secure the border. now we are 30 years away from that and we still haven't secured the border. you put the personnel on that boredder in the right places. you have the strategic fencing in place. you put aviation assets in place 24/7 looking down, analy

disingenuous to suggest that bachmann had the enthusiasm and excitement that a trump has right now or fred thompsonhad, even rudy giuliani at one time polling at 35%. didn't have the beatlemania thing that donald trump has. i think it's a fault sense of the security, if you think being in first means you're not going to win? >> he started out with popularity id because of the "apprentice" prior to this. there is a ceiling to the support he'll get. we know he's coming out with the details on immigration policy, everyone supports building a wall. he's done what everyone else has done for the last 20 years, linked it to other policies trying to drag it along. he's no different from other politicians. 31% of republicans support the mass deportation, and far fewer of the voting population. the devil is in the details and donald trump is finding that out and he's going to find that out as he finds more details. i predict he'll peak in after about mid-september, he'll hill the ceiling. charles: jackie, sounds like you're in the same camp. you're saying peak real soon? >> you know i have learned over the c

well, if we go back eight years ago, rudolph giuliani was 2-1 over the next challenger who was fred thompson was john mccain in the fourth place. then it was rick perry over the next potential challenger. that was either michelle obama or mitt romney. to say things are in a mess, no, they're not. they're exactly where we hope they'll be. we're focusing on organization. we have the largest organization going, the most deep bench structure in iowa and south carolina. that's how you win a nomination. >> one of the things that's clearly helping donald trump is his strong stance on immigration. he said he wants to do away with the so-called birth right clause in the 14th amendment to the constitution that automatically grants citizenship to children born in the united states. he would like to build that wall along the border of mexico. have you had a chance to tae take a look at his immigration plan? what is your thought? >> i don't spend as much time talking about donald trump as you guys do. we have to secure the border. what do we do with all the other come opponents of immigration? one of the

fred thompson and rudy giuliani were leading in the polls, go back as far as 1991 bill clinton was inmmer of the off year. so i think there are multiple ways that jeb can really handle this in choosing to go after trump in the past. while may not take hold right away, sooner or later as the field whittles down people will look more to the substance of trump and less of the sound bite. >> give me the other perspective on this. is it worth it at this point to go after trump? or is it better to continue to let him blow and hope at some point he self-destructs? can you destruct him with attacks? >> the jeb bush campaign is off tilt here. they came in thinking they were going to be the front runner, have the most money, set the standard for really what this presidential primary was going to be. and now they're left playing catch up. so they're clearly flailing around a bit trying to find any way to improve their poll position. and this is kind of name calling and questioning of conservative bona fides is exactly that sort of desperate attempt to get back up in the polls. i don't know if it

, a celebrity in his own right at that particular time, was at the top of the polls and as was fred thompson, another celebrity candidate. i don't know if that has anything to do with it, but we'll see in the long run. we stand for what we care about and put our names and our good judgment on the line relative to our philosophy. so, are you for single payer health care? are you for the states deciding the issues? are you for the people deciding those issues? those are questions that are going to get asked in debate settings and there's not going to be any dodging. neil: you know, governor, again, i don't know which debate you'll be in or how it will sort out, i almost think not to be in the prime time debate might actually be a favor for those in the early debate in that they don't have to compete or risk getting the oxygen sucked out of the room by the donald trump, i don't mean to disparage mr. trump or you or your counterparts, but it might be a better venue for the early debates, more of a chance to focus on the issues. what do you say? >> regardless of where we are on the debate, the 5:

around to see me in 2002, one sunday afternoon with people that should i did when is the that fred thompson with a gaping. as people say the daily care for politics with embalming fluid. it doesn't take long to get the old juices running again. here i am jumping into the united states senate. of course, bill was majority leader and a terrific leader of the senate. i had a chance into his leadership to be on this committee which is the senate h.e.l.p. committee, the finance committee has a lot of the jurisdiction but we have a lot, too. so i'm delighted to be here with you and with him especially. i want to tell you one other story which will explain why i plan to speak just for a few minutes and then listen for the rest of the time. our former colleague senator john warner used to tell the story of when he was first in the senator he was sitting there wondering what to do and one of the oldest centers of overton, but is operated and said, look, don't worry about this, you get the hang of it in no time for all you have to do to be a united states senator is stand up, start talking and eventu

fred thompson held a pig, and al gore posed with a bull.r sasha while martin o'malley headed down the giant slide with his kids. and there are the awkward moments when candidates really step in it. >> preparations are people, my friend. >> reporter: that quip gave millionaire mitt romney heartburn for the rest of his campaign. not to be out down donald trump gave kids at the fair grounds free rides on his helicopter. fair organizers quickly put that idea out to pasture. steve chaggaris is the political editor at cbs news. >> why do voters care what a candidate does at a state fair? is it more style over substance? >> i think it's actually more substance than you would give it credit for. >> so, yes, we see all the pictures of them eating fried foods and walking the state fair. but at the same time, there are a lot of really substantive questions asked and issues discussed at these things. >> reporter: america has had 44 presidents. the iowa state fair has been around for 30 of them. franklin pierce was in the white house when the fair began

. >> rudy giuliani and fred thompson were our leaders.ack obama was down 22 points in august of 2007. what we see in the polls today is not indicative of what's going to happen. until votes start getting cast, we're not going to know who the republican front-runner is. karen mentioned this in her story today she wrote in "the post," a lot of voters get past celebrity and they don't know a lot about trump, so i don't see how math adds up for donald trump when -- get past immigration, you start seeing he's pro single payer health case he's pro choice, he's for higher taxes, he's anti-second amendment. where does the math get him to the number of the votes he needs in a republican primary amongst republican primary voters to get the nomination? >> i think what he's saying is i've evolved on all those issues and i don't know republican primary voters are going to punish him for having held these positions. he says ronald reagan evolved. that's true. i see what you're saying, david, but i also don't know that's going to necessarily matter. bec

eight years ago you had a combination of rudy giuliani and fred thompson. still a long way to go.al, the federal government has says hillary clinton had classified information. he is speaking the truth. people want to hear candidates taking on hillary clinton had on as the poll numbers go down. i wonder at the interview this will go down five or 10 points. it is so bad that joe biden is thinking about getting in the race. stuart: do your thing donald trump is going to say. gretchen collins doesn't think trump is going to fade. >> yes, i do think he is going to fade. right now you have 75% of the republican electorate being pulled. he's getting about 25, 24% and as other candidates drop out, are the voters are advocating to one of the other candidates. we have a bunch of debates to go. at some point people are dating right now. they are dating donald trump and the other candidates. when they want to get married they may have second thoughts. >> here's the other interesting thing. as an antiestablishment moving going on. what does he have in common with donald trump? they are not po