he would not let frederick douglass tell the story of what happened. this is from douglass'1881, the life and times of frederick douglass. some 16 years later, i was standing in the crowd when douglass touched me on my shoulder, and -- mr. johnson and pointed me out to him. the first expression that came to his face, which i think was a true index of his heart, was one of bitter contempt and aversion. saying that i observed him, he tried to sue a more friendly appearance, but it was too late. it is useless to close the door when all within has been seen. his first glance with the frowned of the man, the second was the bland its ugly smile of the demagogue. i turn to mrs. dorsey, douglass'black friend, and i said, whatever andrew johnson may be, he certainly is no friend to our race. >> it is a great passage, douglass is a great writer. i am an english professor, i like the metaphor this idea of the door. sorry, let me go back, this door opening in closing showing johnson's true feelings. the thing i want to emphasize about this passage is it is retrospe

charles, and frederick, both turned against chase. douglass decided not to show up because he thought on to be on him not on the trial. charles then told him about what he missed. i am sure some of you know what happened with the impeachment trial. there were votes into the 11 articles on impeachment in may, 1968. both fell short by one vote. douglas, his son, and frances harper, many other blacks felt betrayed. historians have speculated that the public incident -- benjamin wade of ohio, speaker of the house, next in line of the president, he didn't want them to become president been part because he was a socialist. part because they want to do ulysses its grant as the next president. charles and his father both believe that johnson should have been convicted. they both thought that the supreme court justice, samuel chase, was at fault for keeping the proceedings overly focused on the tenure of office act. this is the photo of chase. a former abolitionist who was angling for the presidential nomination, knowing that grant would be the choice

and for frederick douglass to say, for lincoln to say that, impressed frederick douglass very profoundly, as well it might. it wouldn't have sounded out of place in the mouth of a presbyterian minister, say, reflecting on the nation's ordeal of the war. but for a president to say that, it's truly extraordinary. and i think that douglass's understanding of that and how radical it was and how deep it was and how much it reflected his sense of justice and his compassion for blacks, i think is truly remarkable. and therefore that paragraph deserves to be more carefully scrutinized than the more famous final paragraph that immediately follows it. >> thank you for calling our attention to it and thank you for reading it. noah feldman, the second inaugural? >> i strongly agree with michael and his emphasis on that paragraph. i would say that that paragraph amounts to what we would call the political theology of the united states. a political theology is the use of religious ideas, distinctively religious ideals, to explain political events and to give them meaning. i think that what lincoln is

and it's a kind of vision of divine reparations and the fact that frederick douglass so latched on to that passage i think is in isn't indication that he understood what what lincoln was doing there with that with that line. think thank you very much indeed for that and thanks to all of you for this parsing of these. centrally important speeches. it's so meaningful to learn with all three of you. we have just seven minutes left or only constitution center will lose to end on time, but i think that's enough time for one question to each of you and some very brief closing thoughts. so michael brougham bonnie zedek asks, how did lincoln react to the seneca falls convention in 1848 into voting rights for black women as well as white women was either friend of black woman as well as black men. and what final thoughts would you like like to share with our friends? well, we have no. direct illusion and anything that lincoln center wrote about the seneca fallscon convention, but he was i've argued in my book a kind of proto-feminist that he was opposed to the sexual double standard of a husba

johnson joins lincoln at the reception and i'm going to let frederick douglass. tell the story of what happened next. this is from douglas's 1881 life and times of frederick douglas. so it's about 16 years. later. i was standing in the crowd when mr. lincoln touched mr. johnson appointed me out to him the first expression which came to his face in which i think was the true index of his heart was one of bitter contempt and aversion. seeing that i observed him. he tried to assume a more friendly appearance, but it was too late. it is useless to close the door when all within has been seen. his first glance was the frown of the man. the second was the bland and sickly smile of the demagogue. i turned to this is dorsey douglas is cool, my friend and said whatever andrew johnson may be he certainly is no friend of our race. it's it's a great passage. douglas is a great writer. i am an english professor and i like the metaphor of this idea of a door. sorry. let me go back. oh the door opening and closing showing johnson's true feelings the thing i want to emphasize abo

frederick douglass were appalled by this, so where other blacks. lincoln in the first delegation of african americans to the white house and all this in 1862. he asked them to rally their communities, the free blacks, to leave the country. they, said mister president, we are americans. we are not going to any go anywhere. you will have to get used to us. it has been argued that lincoln was trying to temper the negative reaction that he expected the emancipation proclamation. he may have just felt that there was such a -- such terrible racism the communities could not live together. he said to that same group of, blacks no community has ever suffered worse harm than my people. he spoke of whites as my people, not americans. that might people has afflicted on you. nonetheless, frederick douglass said, despite all the ways in which, all the policies which lincoln disagreed with, he said he was a first great man, as he put it, who never made me conscious of the difference of race. for that i think we are going to open to some signings of anybody would

myself but then i discovered he had a whole cohort of people he was interacting with including frederick douglass and how complicated and sophisticated the constitutional arguments were. but i did it on a lark i didn't think it would connect up with anything as a constitutional law professor but then when we started to collaborate on the 14th amendment it was quite obvious i had a article published each and every cause and how the antecedents of the clause lie in antislavery constitutionalism what we needed to take account to the degree to which the republican party was the successor party from the liberty party and the republican party as anti- slavery had takenut on many of these arguments and then enshrined them into the text of the constitution of the 14th amendment when you think of a regionalism unfortunately that is true that we all talk about the founding of madison and morris as the text has stopped there but it didn't and then we're all familiar with the moral defects of the founding which were quitete serious but our constitutional history proceeded and night what original is a ms. tha

nonetheless frederick douglass said despite all the ways in which they or the policies in which they have lincoln said he disagreed with he said he was the first great man as he put it who never may be conscious of the difference of race. without i think we're going to open to some signings if anyone would like to get a book. thank you for coming. in roosevelt. important communication. thank you very much, and it's a great for be here

frederick douglass using them to craft the finest literature the countryy would humbly lay claim to, there is this important knowledge, some you take what you can get where you can get. >> are trying to think how to answer that, one i was like read this book. korean american writer, a lot of it is dismantling this idea of normalcy. they said they are afraid to be white in the class are you sure you are writing about white? i was like what is it? i know whiteness in the context of racism and superiority, and in the context of this but what is it? you all think you have written a but you haven't it. robert culver kind of interrupted it and was so emotional, when we write the literature of the oppressed or other people? you know those people are writing your own book. they could not figure out how it transcends. the joke remember they send in samples and where they came from. that said, there is a lot going on, it's been a game changer. there's a lot to be done and dismantled your whole purpose coming off is to be on this. it does become a matter of knowing who not to listen to. if you

frederick douglass said look, if you continue to look on in this amendment you will find in section twothat apparently seven states can continue to disenfranchise people on the basis of race so long as they're prepared to pay representation in the form of representation to congress that he considered that the limitation any other abolitionists like wendell phillips and william lloyd garrison dedicated themselves to saying we need to do better than the fourteenth amendment. we need to do better traitor if i could say one more thing that section to the addition of the word mail and the constitution. that addition is what led many feminists at the time to oppose the fourteenth amendment and the reason they did this, they did so because under the previous approach of anti-slavery constitutionalism the constitution was gender-neutral, that where it says refers to the masculine key, that i commit under conventional usage human beings in that context. it could mean jenna but it didn't mean gender in the context of sex and context of the constitution. what feminists objected to so much is that

intended to fall into the hands of any negroes and frederick douglass taking them and using them to craft some of the finest literature that this country could ever hope to lay claimm to. it's important to acknowledge that tradition. >> the korean american writer the idea that we don't have that normalcy. a student asked if there can afford to be whites in their class. what is whiteness and for the racism and superiority and in the context of i haven't read that novel. kind of interrupting it he was when are you going to write the literature of the other people, when are you going to do this and. they really couldn't figure out how to process. so it's still a lot of learning and what is going on in these classes. now there are applications. there is that said game changer in a lot of workshops. a lot of that needs to be dismantlednk and there are peope who still think your whole purpose of coming to a creative class that it still is stuff that needs to be dismantled. sometimes it's still unfortunate and comes down to that to know how to listen. one more thing i would add to that the

and there is reason to hope the title of the book comes -- is a play on frederick douglass said, i do of the almighty, let there be light has not yet spent its force. frederick douglass thought that and he helped create a climate of opinion that lincoln was also an architect of. he believed in the promise of the country, and he believed that without union, chaos resulted. because one of the criticisms of lincoln is, in fact, the abolitionists thought this, when you're preserving a union that gives the slave owners and these awful people too powerful a voice, his question was, if we just let them go, there's no way to free the enslaved. it becomes its own entity. and becomes a nation among the powers of the earth. so we have to fight. so one of the things you have to answer is what's worth fighting for. and constitutional democracy, i think, is one of them. one of th. ever wonder why they call it the american dream... and not the american goal? announcer: derek jeter ...or plan? maybe... it's because in dreams, you can do anything. in dreams... you can hold your entire world in the pal

frederick douglass said look, you continue to look on in this amendment you will find in section twohat apparently southern states can continue to disenfranchise people on the basis of race so long they are willing to pay representation to congress. consider that a limitation he and other abolitionist like wendell phillips and william lloyd garrison dedicated themselves to saying we need to do better than the 14th amendment. we need to do better. >> if i could just say one more thing about section two and the addition to the word mail in tht constitution, that in addition is what led it many feminists at the time to oppose the 14th amendment. the reason they did it instructive, they did so under the previous of approach to constitutionalist in the constitution was gender-neutral. where it refers to the masculine he, that actually meant under conventional usage human being in that context. it could mean gender but it did not mean gender or in the context of the constitution. what feminists object to so much is this was going to be the first time that sex was introduced into the consti

it's the story of abraham lincoln, frederick douglass, and the abolitionists who ended slavery. story of elizabeth cady stanton, susan b. anthony, and the suffragists who made women's rights a reality. it's the story of martin luther king, jr. who told us his dream and saw it become real at the end of segregation. and i've seen this story in my own life, and in my time as governor, when a black man named walter scott was murdered by a dirty cop. we didn't have riots. instead, we passed the first body camera bill in the country , protecting our citizens, and our good cops. when a sick and twisted man murdered nine amazing souls that mother emanuel charge, we didn't have -- mother emanuel church, we didn't have chaos. we had vigils. and as the female governor of first south carolina and the first minority female governor in the united states, i will say until my last breath, america is not a racist country. [cheers and applause] america is a blessed country. this is the story we have to tell. this is the story. we have to continue. if republicans don't, no one will. but first we'v

yeah, the only one more point that i would add to this is that frederick douglass actually campaigned against the 14th amendment because he thinks he thought that it didn't secure suffrage rights on the one hand. it was committed to citizenship which he thought entailed voting rights as most black people. who who's the who's access to whose records we have now they consistently act asked for voting rights. they consistently demanded voting rights and roger douglas said look if you continue to look on in this amendment, you'll find in section two that's apparently southern states can continue to disenfranchise people on the basis of race. so long as they're prepared to pay representation in the form of representation to congress. he considered that a limitation and he and other abolitionists like wendell phillips and william lloyd garrison dedicated themselves to saying we need to do better than the 14th amendment. we need to do better if i could just say one more thing about section two and the addition of the word male in the constitution this that edition is what led many feminists

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. >> right, like frederick douglass. >> and harriet tubman, called a six part her tubman was like i'meeling well. we don't know choose actually not feeling well. it was just, it was not very well thought out plan, arguably, but a passionate one. you know, driven by a deep sense of justice. so that's where i started in west virginia. partial because everybody was like you're going to west virginia by yourself, like a black lady, you should be afraid, right? but i went and we had this conversation. i called him bob indie book. that's not his name. but it was so interesting because part of me, i'm not going to confront him about being the confederate reenactor and i've been socialized as someone born in alabama, socialize as a southern black woman and girl that you don't start this stuff, right? because it could explode. but i was fascinated, and he, and to realize we are so similar. because his passion is to live inside history, as is mine. and yet i couldn't figure out why he wanted to live inside that part of history. >> and you couldn't ask him. >> and i couldn't ask him. but he told

. >> like frederick douglass. >> like harriet coleman call in sick. >> .come in was like i'm not feeling well, we don't know. it was not very well thought out arguably but a passionate one driven by a deep sense of justice. so that's where i started the west virginia partially because everybody was like you're going to west virginia by yourself . wand know, but i went we had this conversation. i called him bob in the book, that's his name. itwas so interesting because part of me was like , i'm not going to confront him about being a confederate reenactor and i have been socialized as baa woman born in alabama and socialized as a southern black woman and a girl that you don't start this stuff because it could explode. but i was fascinated. and i realized we are so similar because his passion is to live inside history and his mind and yet i couldn't figure out why you wanted to live in side that part of history. >> and you couldn't ask him. >> and i couldn't ask him but he still told me the story sunglasses so for a reactor if you read confederates it help me because i knew questions askin

the greatest country and they wanted to be americans and put the country back together and frederick douglassudied and that was my hope that people would care enough to pick up. ashley: the order is in, appreciate it. still had, steve hilton, jonathan morris, kim strawser, "varney and company" is next. # # >> i think the jobs report is clearly suggesting it's not slowing down at all and leaves jay powell in the position

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infected into this gallery, the sanctified all of the most famous americans throughout history frederick douglassraham lincoln, george washington and bezos along with half a dozen other people like manuel miranda are beingn conducted, the portraits will hang in the gallery and there he is at the opening ceremony and he's introduced he gives a speech surrounded by uppercrust american society politicians and media in a number of things i liked about it. one thing he said in his speech was he commended the artists, quite severe, i don't know if you have seen it but he looks scary and he commends the artist for portraying him, scars and all and said i've gathered a lot of scars in 20 years leading amazon and that is one thing the portrait shows. metaphorical scars. i like that because the book would be an account of his rise toaz power so it represented the journey i would take readers on. >> if you have to sum up this. he wrote about, it's like a sequel to your earlier book, i thinker i saw your tweet about star wars. >> the empire strikes back. >> how is this new just bezos different from the one y

this is a hollow the most famous americans throughout history frederick douglass, abraham lincoln, george washington and jeff bezos with half a dozen other people are being inducted their portraits will hang in the gallery. so at the opening ceremony his son preston introduces him but the one thing he said at the speech that the portrait is quite severe. and then the artist to portray him scars and all. and i gathered all the scars the last 20 years leaving amazon and that's what the portrait shows. metaphorical scars. i like that because the book would be an account of his rise to power. and that's the journey i was hopefully going to take the readers on. host: it's like a sequel to your earlier book i saw a tweet if it was star wars or like the empire strikes back. [laughter] >> so how is this different than the jeff bezos from the first book? >> absolutely it is different in a number of ways. the most obvious is visibly he is a different guide. that tech nerd from seattle unfashionable, the presentation that were incredibly esoteric like the introduction of the fire phone that's histor

immediately they were defeated and some people thought it was a suicide mission right like frederick douglass right was like, yeah. i'm not very good called in sick right here was like, i'm not feeling well and so, you know, we don't know if she actually was not feeling well, she was like that. it was just it was not a very well thought out plan arguably but a passionate. one, you know driven by a deep sense of justice, right? so that's where i started in west virginia partially because everybody was like you're going to west virginia by yourself like black lady. you should be afraid right and so, you know, but i went and we had this conversation. i called him bob in the book. that's not his name. but it was so interesting because part of me was like i i'm not going to confront him about being a confederate reenactor and i have been socialized. as a man born in alabama, you know socialized as a southern black woman and girl that that you don't start this stuff right because it could explode but i was fascinated. and he's and i realized we're so similar. because his passion is to live inside h

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this is the sanctified all of the history of frederick douglass, abraham the judge will bezos othersranda and the good, portraitsng are goingo hang in the gallery and there he is at the opening ceremony, his son preston introduces him and he gives a speech surrounded by american society politicians, media and there were a number of things i liked. one thing he said, he commended the artist for the portrait, i don't know if you have seen it but he looks scary in the portrait commends the artist for portraying him, scars and all. he says i've gathered scars in the last 20 years leading amazon and that's one thing portrait shows. metaphorical scars so i like that because the book would be an account of his works and all, rise to power so it represented the journey ioo would hopefully bring us on. >> if you had to sum up this. he wrote about, it's like the sequel to your earlier book, i think i saw your tweet about comparing it to star wars. >> the empire strikes back. >> so how is this new just bezos different from the one you wrote about in your first book? >> he absolutely is differen

>> am grateful because this is a state that is the state of frederick douglass and harriet tubman andrgood marshall, but it is also a state that understands that progress is not inevitable, but progress is possible, and when i think about what happened last tuesday, i'm grateful, not only did we win, it is how we win. if you look at every single demographic, the fact that we won areas of maryland that were urban, rural, and suburban, i think it was because at this time and in this moment, this state was ready. judy: and in terms of the other candidates i mention who did not make it this year, does that say something about where we are as a country right now? >> we know that the history of this country, it has been a journey but an uneven journey. you don't have to look any further than the state of maryland to understand the complications of a racial history. what i do know, though, is as a state and what we saw here in the state of maryland was that we had to be unafraid to approach it. we had to be unafraid to talk about it, but we also had to be unafraid to know that if we are goin

and frederick douglass and i don't i take that oath and become not just the 63rd governor the state,he first black governor. i know the shoulders denim standing on. and help our people had to work to include people in my own family. where -- inside this country. and he was just a toddler. the ku klux klan rent my family out of this country. and they want to jamaica. most my family always pledge today would never come back to this country, most a.. but my grandfather did. eventually, he worked in hbcu. he became a minister, like his father. this is a man who passed away when he was 87 years old. but a deep to make an accent. and was maybe the most patriotic american i've ever met. ida falls talked him about being the first because with the first black mr., and the history of the church. and it was tell me, i'm humbled but the fact of the first, that wasn't the assignment. and that is the approach i very much take this moment. where i'm humbled by the fact that the state maryland has given me the honor of being the first black government history of our state, but i also know, that is n

me start with one of our questioners suggested that perhaps james's speech was analogous to frederick douglass's speech on the fourth of july about what is the 4th of july to a slave. would you like to comment on that? >> i don't know if frank james was aware of that speech, he very mel weight of been, it's a famous speech, but here's what i can tell you, it's that when douglas delivered that oration, it was in a broader 19th century reformist millions that included native activists, including william ape is, the 1830's preacher to the wampanoags. they might have known each other is what i'm saying. they certainly had some of the same contacts. so, you know, i think there is a consolation of influences that were bearing on james's speech, and i think you might very well have hit on one of them. there is an enormous amount of overlap between reformers in the 19th century who are advocating for indigenous people, and reformers were advocating for african american people. >> now, another question is, was the sort of manufactured history what was told in the residential schools where indians were, y

paperback is now out the president and the freedom fighter updated with news about what happened to frederick douglassoln, taking his name off schools. that's part of the new information in the book. and i'm going to be this saturday i'm going to be in scranton, pennsylvania at 1:00. go to brian kilmeade.com find out dates and get tickets ahead of time speed you through the line. meanwhile, coming up straight ahead. as test scores drop, democrats are trying to down play the impact of school closures on learning loss. lieutenant governor winsome sears is not doing that prior tiding education in her campaign. she has never stopped and she's next. plus, rachel campos-duffy is catching up with voters on staten island as we march onto the mid terms. rachel? will. >> rachel: here back again in staten island at the anna dale terrace diner. jerry is a senior. he says is he thinking about getting another job. >> it's tough. it's out there and we have to figure out a ways to raise the amount of money we are making. retirement isn't going to cut it. that's for sure. >> rachel: here is his wife theresa. talk to m

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and frederick douglass. also the state where we incarcerate more african american boys between the ages of 18 and 25 than anywhere else in this country. number two is mississippi. that this is the home of some of the most affluent black town or black entrepreneurs that we have in this country. yet at the same time, the state of maryland has an 8 to 1 racial wealth gap. so i think what we are able to do and show that the ability to be able to address these issues, that has got to be everybody's assignment. and so whether from myself or other history makers, myself was the first black governor and only the third african american elected and this country's history. i understand that making history was not the assignment. the assignment is that we can address things like child poverty and the racial wealth gap, environmental injustice. if we're able to collectively do, that people would be able to push forward on it. >> yes, just achieving that position and not changing their positions of those that need the pos

out of protest what they are really saying is we need to transition out of struggle and does frederick douglass said without struggle there's no progress progress. you need that struggle to beat the kindling for the fire so create the kind of change we want to see. someone like, people have asked me a version of the question where they asked do you think jay-z's sold out and i want to be like no. he didn't sellout at all. you have to understand he's a billionaire. he's acting in accordance with the station in society and what jay-z is trying to angle toward is buying the denver bronco's predictive want to do that and become the first owner more power to him but what that does for the family of george floyd they do not know. what that does and communities that deal with police occupation i do not know. d it doesn't do a lot and meanwhile what colin kaepernick was doing was inspiring people to actualize themselves and there is so much more that comes out of that historically. then just saying well we need to have some sort of action plan to go to the police. what that tents to lead to is a group

need to transition out of protest, the releasing we need to transition out of struggle and as frederick douglass said with struggle there's no progress in. you need the struggle for the fires that the change that we want to see. someone has asked me emerging comedy thing jay-z sold out, i want to be like no, he didn't sell that at all, yet understand he's a billionaire. he is not selling, he's acting in accordance in society and a strained angle towards by the denver broncos. if he wants to do that and become the first black of the nfl, more power to him. but what that does for the family of george floyd i do not know. but that doesn't communities that deal with police occupation i do not know it does not do a lot we allow colin kaepernick was doing in inspiring people gutfeld actualized themselves. >> there is so much more that comes out of that historically then just saying we need to have an action plan that we go to to the police. that tends to lead to a group of leaders in the movement and giving the responsibility at basically negotiating the terms of people's oppression instead of having

they're going to have to put the founders in conversation with frederick douglass.ion, immigration debates, voting rights debates, that attack on january 6th, the attack on crt, quote unquote. all of this is related. all of this is related to the general panic that white folks feel like they're losing their footing, their grip on the country. they want a nation that is fundamentally, a white nation, and the rest of us should simply still not up and be grateful. >> nicole, one book folks should read besides yours? quickly? >> oh, god, how could i even answer that question? [laughter] i mean, black reconstruction. if you want to understand what we're seeing in america right now, there is a great essay, i teach it to my students. it's a final essay in the book called the propaganda of history. those words that the boys writes about the way history lies agreed upon -- >> wonderful, -- >> it's what we're seeing today. >> thank you so much. eddie gould and -- i wanted to know you are breathing. apologies for cutting you off, but we'll have you back on. thank you so much f

this is the sanctified hall of the most famous americans throughout history, frederick douglass, abraham lincoln, george washington and bezos along with half a dozen other people like lin-manuel miranda are being inducted. the portraits are going to hang in the gallery. and there he is at the opening ceremony. his son preston introduces him. he gives a speech. he surrounded by the upper crust of american society, politicians, media. and through a number of things i really liked about it. one thing he said in his speech is he committed the artist for the portrait, which is quite severe. i don't know if you've seen it, eugene, but he looks scary in this portrait and he commends the artist for kind of portraying him, you know, scars and all, he says. he says i've gathered a lot of scars in the last 20 years leading amazon, and that's one thing the portrait shows. i think metaphorical scars. i like that because the book was going to be an account of his warts and all, rise to power. so to me it really just represented the journey i was going to hopefully take readers on. >> host: so if you h

as frederick douglass said, without struggle there is no progress. you need that struggle to be the candling for the fires that we create the kind of change that we want to see. now someone like people have asked me a version of the crash with a asked me do you think jay-z sold out? i want to be like no, no, he didn't sell out at all the people have to understand he's a billionaire. he's not selling out. he's acting in accordance with the station in society and what jay-z is trying to angle towards is buying the denver broncos. if you wants to do that and become the first black owner of an nfl team, more power to him. but what that does for the family of george floyd i do not know. what that does in communities that deal with police occupations i i do not know. it doesn't do a lot. meanwhile, what colin kaepernick was doing was inspiring people to actually self-actualized himself as changemakers. there's so much more that comes out of that historically than just saying well, we need to have some sort of action plan that we go to to the police. becaus

suffrage so far fetched that they included it in their declaration only after black abolitionist frederick douglass'sminute argument. in mainstream society, however, the woman writes proclaimed at seneca falls, including equal education and employment, we considered so ludicrous that newspapers lampooned the idea simply by printing a list of women's rights. in that same year of 1848, change roiled the west. that vast territory stretching past the mississippi river. gold was discovered in california, the u.s. annexed the vast oregon erritory, and also claimed what is now are enormous southwest as spoils from the mexican american war. the rush to the new frontier began in earnest. the west differed from the rest of america in significant ways that affected women's positions, starting with demography. until the turn of the century, white men significantly outnumbered white women there, particularly in towns and cities. and women's scarcity increased their value. its the old law supply and demand. so, far less popular than in the east, the west was also home to the great majority of the country's native