frieden said, are, you know, just want to focus on science.n, in many people's eyes, they are damaged. >> you know, one of the most important powers that -- that fda and cdc have is trust. trust by the american public, that everything they do is based on the best-available public health science. and, you know, this fall, as vaccine trials continue and as those results will be coming in, it's critically important that people have faith that any kind of decision coming out of fda, in term s of approval, is based on good science. and any recommendations, in terms of who should get vaccines, by cdc, is based on good science. because you can have a vaccine that's highly effective. but if no one is willing to get it because they -- they lack trust in the science, you're not going to be able to save lives. as i talk to former colleagues at cdc, you know, they have their head down. they are doing the work. they are doing hard science. in terms of the impact in -- in -- on morale, it's devastating to feel that they don't have the protection, from on to

for me cdc director tom frieden is here with more with us.u think that a completely safe fully effective and utterly properly tested vaccine would be available in eight weeks or less? >> we are going to have to see, there are big trials being done by many different manufacturers and we will have to see what they show, i cannot say in advance, that is what science is, we have to look at the data and not just how effective they are but how safe they are. some of the vaccines have never been used in people before. we don't have any approved vaccine of this type. it is really important, vaccine is the single most important tool that we can have two stop covid but it's not going to make it go away overnight and we cannot cut any corners on safety. eric: can you explain the way it works and what the new study is and what normally would be done, how long would this normally take versus what they're trying to expedite right now. >> they have done a lot right with operation warp speed, there hedging their bets by having four different types of vaccine

frieden, dr. fauci, a man you know, a man sanjay knows well, i know him, he is quoted in bob woodward's book as telling others that president trump's leadership in his word was rudderless and he reiterated yesterday that public trust is absolutely essential to combatting this health crisis. if you are going to convince people to wear a mask, stay home, social distance, get a vaccine, all of those things, dr. frieden, require public trust and cooperation yet we now know the president has been actually misleading the american public since the very beginning of this outbreak. how damaging is that? >> well, for many months many of us in public health have been totally surprised to see the lack of concerted, focused, federal leadership in communication, in planning, in guiding the response. this is the biggest public health emergency in a hundred years. the federal government drilled for this. was ready for this. in fact, if you look at the things that the cdc was saying at that time, they were accurat

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frieden mentioning. a second way of tightening its grip on the continent.people are being tested now then when the pandemic first peaked in march, but governments also attending to slow the spread without resorting to costly lockdowns. >> what is worrying to us is an increase in hospitalizations and an increase in hospitalizations. not even two the end of september, we have not even started our flu season yet, so what we are worried about is the possibility that these trends are going in the wrong direction. reported 15,000 new cases in the past 24 hours. deathsalso confirmed 150 from the virus. authorities in hotspot madrid warning of tough weeks ahead. the u.k. reports almost 7000 on friday, a record high for the second day in a row. new restrictions have been imposed on several cities, and london could be next. russia has reported more than 7000 new infections in 24 hours. moscow has instructed hospitals to free up beds after new cases jumped almost 50% overnight. >> anger in the french city of marseille after the government ordered bars and restaurants

tom frieden is joining us. dr. frieden, thanks so much for joining us.ou heard the current cdc director that americans can't trust what's on the cdc website, in light of the changes and flip-flops on asymptomatic testing and airborne transmission. do you think that's still true? >> there's no question, wolf, that the cdc is embattled right now. and what they're being fought really is for standing up for science. what we see in this administration is a lot of energy going into fighting the science and less energy going into fighting the virus. still the cdc has the best public health professionals anywhere in the world and there's great information on the cdc website. but we need to make sure that something like what happened with asymptomatic transmission never happens again. >> did you ever get any pressure from the white house when you were the cdc director to revise or change the cdc opinions because of politics? >> never on the scientific issue. on policy matters, it's absolutely the purview of policymakers to determine what's going to be the adminis

frieden, i think former vice president biden is absolutely right. do is become numb to the idea of 200,000 people dead, which it freaks me out to read those numbers every time they tick up. but based on what you've seen happen and how we got here to 200,000 deaths, what grade would you give to the trump administration? >> i'm a scientist, not in the job of grading people. but what i can say is that the u.s. response has really failed. if you look at countries like germany, they have one-fifth the u.s. death rate. canada, about half the u.s. death rate. sure you can point to other countries that have also failed. but the u.s. shouldn't fail. the u.s. has the potential to beat this virus. it is not currently under control. it's better than it was, but nowhere near where it should be. and because of that, tens of thousands of americans have died who didn't have to die. because of that, our economy is in worse shape than it could've been. millions of jobs have been lost that didn't have to be lost. >> yeah. you ran the cdc. one of the most disturbing th

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thomas frieden, thank you for being on the show.>> as the west coast burns, much of the southern gulf coast is under hurricane and storm surge warnings as we speak because of tropical storm sally, expected to strengthen to a category 1 hurricane later today. it is set to make landfall in the new orleans area early tomorrow morning. i want to bring in morgan chesky who is there in louisiana. the state has a state of emergency, feels like we were just talking a couple of weeks ago on the show about another hurricane, feels like they can't avoid these hits that keep on coming. >> reporter: yeah, it is a weird case of deja vu here. it is because of that prior case of the hurricanes coming through this area that new orleans actually faces a unique problem. hurricane laura hit lake charles to southwest louisiana, prompting about 10,000 people to evacuate from that community to this city that are now facing another hurricane within just a few weeks. and that's cut down on some of the vital shelter space that could be given to those people

dr tom frieden former director of the centers for disease control and prevention thank you thank you. well countries around europe are recording record numbers of new coronavirus cases as we heard dr frieden mentioning there a 2nd wave now tightening its grip on the continent more people are being tested now than when the pandemic 1st peaked in late march but governments are also struggling to slow the spread of the virus without resorting to costly and disruptive lockdowns. what is worrying to us is an increase in hospitalizations and an increase in bed occupancy for hospitalizations and also in i.c.u. . we're at the end of september not even towards the end of september and we haven't even started our flu season yet so what we are worried about is the possibility you know that these trends are going in the wrong direction well france has reported 15797 new cases in the past 24 hours just down from a record 16000 infections on thursday it's also confirmed 150 deaths from the virus in the last day triple the daily levels a week ago spain reported more than 12000 cases with authorities

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let's bring in former cdc director tom frieden. thank you for being with us tonight. what is your take on what you understand dr. atlas and that part of the kabal pushing as herd immunity. >> well, in the past week we saw two very concerning things, we saw the fda have a decision on emergency use of plasma, which may have been the correct decision, but politicized in how it did it, where it did 2, what it said. and you had the white house and hhs overrule the cdc and say, no don't test people who are contacts of people with covid if they don't have symptoms, which makes absolutely no sense. that will let covid spread. this concept that young people will get covid. they won't get very sick and then we'll all be okay. ignores the fact that we're all connected. what starts in the young doesn't stay in the young. there have already been more than 215,000 excess deaths beyond baseline between march 8th and july 31st. 71% of those deaths had a doctor write on a death certificate covid caused it, the others could have been from covid that wasn't diagnosed or people who could

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. >>> joining us now, former cdc director, tom frieden. tom, i want to start with this new poll.blic trust in the cdc and our top health officials, it's evaporating. if the american people don't trust them, who can they trust? >> well, the -- it is really a reflection of the politization of science. and the sfact there are still 20,000 health professionals at cdc who work day in day out to protect people and the overwhelming majority of things on the cdc website are correct. and there have been 1.6 billion clicks on that website. but stephanie, i want to step back for a minute. it's 9/11. i'm in new york city. i was born here. this is my town. and we think about the terrible things we've been through as a society. we think about the threats that we faced together, and i think to the extent that we can be clear that we are in this together and we'll get through it best if we get through it together, i think we're going to be healthier. we're going to be more productive. we'll get our jobs and economy back. so this is a day to reflect and to think about how we can really do better,

frieden says he has some safety concerns about a potential coronavirus vaccine.hat exactly based on all your reporting is he worried about? >> i think there's a couple things. there's this idea of something known as antibody dependent enhancement. and what that basically means is you give the vaccine. now the body's got a lot of antibodies as a result of the vaccine. and those antibodies are good fighting cells. they should fight the virus should they ever see the virus. the problem is in some situations, it can have such a significant response to the virus that you start to develop a storm of inflammation in the body. and that can actually be worse than the infection itself. that's the sort of thing you are trying to avoid. and the thing is, wolf, if you see that in 0.1% of people, for example, if you vaccinate 100 million people, that still means 100,000 people could have an effect like that. so that's why you've got to look not only for these types of side effects but even things that would be considered rare. because when you start giving this vaccine at the

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tom frieden is joining us. thanks so much for joining us. as you heard yesterday more than 1,200 americans died from coronavirus, the highest one-day total since mid-august. what does that tell you about where we might be heading coming into the fall? >> well, wolf, what really concerns me is the risk that we will get hardened to these numbers, we'll just get used to them. and you have to put it into context. you heard about the seven people who died as a result of one wedding that didn't follow precautions in maine. none of them went to the wedding. that emphasizes that we're all connected. we're coming up on officially 200,000 people killed by covid. the actual number is higher because not all deaths have been identified. and this is just a horrifying number. it's more people than die from suicide or overdose or homicide or hiv. in fact, covid is on track to be the number three leading cause of death in all of the u.s. for this year. >> those seven people who died got the virus from people who did attend the wedding and then they left, the

season starts in october person trump claims the country is rounding the corner on the crisis dr tom frieden is a former director of the centers for disease control and prevention he says the focus needs to be on longer term solutions and not just a quick fix. it's clear that different parts of the united states as different parts of europe are in very different places you've got the northeast and a few other states that have relatively low rates and have kept those low for many weeks now of other states with rapid increases one thing i think we need to be clear about is that we don't know what the flu season will look like this year in the southern hemisphere there wasn't a bad flu season so it may be that you don't have this kind of double trouble of flu plus coded but we do expect to see more code spreading in colder weather that would be expected and with people coming back to schools and colleges with not having consensus around mass wearing with not having good programs to test and trace people the u.s. does not have the upper hand on the virus right now we hope there will be a vaccine

frieden, some of it scares people.these major publications saying the increases in the 100s of percent. any child it is devastating but you see there covid-19 deaths in children 0 to .3 percent. more children are getting sick and dying but still very rare for a child to die of this. is that a fair assessment? >> absolutely. there is a strong correlation between age and how severe this is. the older you are, the worse it is and the more likely you are to get very sick or die. what's really clear is kids can spread it to others. so what starts in young people doesn't stay in young people necessarily. they may be someone less likely to spread it. the scientific evidence isn't clear but they can definitely spread it and it's so important that all of us protect all of us so we can all be safer. >> trace: we are noticing the increase in colleges across the country. always good information, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> sandra: new york city mayor bill deblasio wants to raise taxes as many of the city's rich flee

tom frieden said today, it's easi easier to figure out if a vaccine actually works than to determine if it's actually safe. what exactly is he concerned about? >> so it may be that we find out about efficacy very quickly if it turns out that we have a really good vaccine, which i really hope that we do. so you give this vaccine to people -- or you give the placebo to people, you give the vaccine to people, you compare. if there is a lot of virus in the community, and if it's a very effective vaccine, you can theoretically tell pretty quickly if individuals are relatively protected against coronavirus if they get the vaccine. but you still have to look for safety as well, and it may be that there are very rare side effects, 1 in 10,000, let's say, which if you give it to hundreds of millions of people, that makes a big difference. but that 1 in 10,000 case or that 1 in 50,000 case, you may not see until you give it to a lot of individuals. that's why having base trials is so important. you need to test it on a lot of people. you're giving this vaccine to otherwise healthy individuals

tom frieden, thank you for joining us. >>> just ahead, more on the bombshell report about president trump's taxes and debt. we'll talk about that with cnn's senior legal analyst and former attorney, fareed farar. >>> we're following multiple breaking stories including president trump avoiding stories including how he avoided paying federal income taxes for years. fareed farar, thank you for doing this. in your view, did the president break any laws as he paid very little in federal income tax dating back to 2000? i can imagine people at home watching this saying it sounds like he broke the law to them. >> yeah, i think it's too early to say. i think there are a lot of questions that have been raised. a lot of questions that have been raised by the report. it is not a crime in and of itself to not pay taxes, or pay very low taxes. the system is not perfect as people understand and there are a lot of opportunities for people to take advantage of the system and game the system. it's not necessarily breaking the law. although the public is not aware of the tax returns and the information in the

frieden, thank you for joining us. we'll clearly stay in touch with you. up next, more of the fallout from bob woodward's new book and his stunning recorded conversations with the president, 19 conversations. i'll speak with a key member of the house democratic leadership. congressman hakeem jeffries. there you see him. we have lots to discuss. we will when we come back. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis, little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or

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thomas frieden writes, when extremists go all the way and moderates just go away, the system can break and it will break. what he's saying there is that if people do what the president did last night, others might get turned off and flee and then everything falls apart. there is that concern. >> i understand tom's argument there, but i think he's wrong. look, the moderate nominated for president by the democratic party. that has restored the democrats' competitiveness in a way they were not competitive with hillary clinton a few years ago that's put the rust belt states further out of reach for trump and he's losing altitude in florida and arizona and ohio as well. i don't know if joe biden can win the states, but joe biden is much more competitive. we had a poll yesterday that showed joe biden ahead by three points in the state of georgia. the point is, all of the public signs, the data that we see is going against the president and the idea that you had somebody on stage who was casting doubt on the legitimacy of the american elections, who was not condemning white supremacists that

what you said about the cdc, if this had been any other time -- and i've talked to people like tom friedenho ran the cdc and others the cdc should have been in charge of this if the cdc had been in charge and done the briefings and based on science and then the president of the united states, imagine if he'd worn a mask back in march and talked to the public as adults, tens and tens and tens of thousands of people who have since died would still be alive there is no question our economy, our schools would probably be able to open safely. all the things that could have been if this president had shown any leadership and any candor. >> and you know, by the way, if dr. fauci had been in charge, dr. fauci at one point tells others, the president is on a separate channel, is unfocus instead meetings his attention span is like a minus number, his sole purpose is to get reelected. let me let you listen to what joe biden has said about this whole mess. >> he knowingly and willingly lied about the threat imposed to the country for months he had the information he knew how dangerous it was now while

i mean, tom frieden was out there on ebola every day. rich besser was talking about h1 h1n1. for the average person, where do they get the knowledge and information? >> well, they need to get it by following the scientific data and the scientific evidence. i do that, sanjay. i have been doing that for months in the fact that i'm out there in media and one of the things that the public needs to understand is that this is an evolving situation. how can i trust anybody because things change and what changes is the fact that we are in an evolving outbreak. and the things that we did not know a few months ago allowed us to at the time use the scientific information to make recommendations that were appropriate at the time and were telling us at the same time. as we learned more, things changed. it's appropriate to make changes in recommendations based on the additional knowledge that you know. a classic example of that, sanjay, that you know very well is that back then, we were not aware that 40 to 45% of people were asymptomatic. nor were we aware that a substantial proportion of

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tom frieden, former head of the cdc.between the president and robert redfield this week. we'll hear from the vice president's chief of staff, mark short will be giving the administration point of view on all of these issues. >> trace: chris, always good to see you. thank you, sir. >> you bet. thank you, trace. >> trace: chris will also be moderating the first presidential debate. tune in for our special coverage hosted by bret baier and martha maccallum tuesday, september 29th beginning at 6:00 p.m. >> julie: fox news alert now on those devastating wildfires in oregon. a storm front is moving in. that is both good news and bad news for fire crews trying to put out the flames. we'll explain next. plus help is on the way to the heartland. what president trump plans to give farmers the pandemic has hit especially hard. >> president trump: we did many things, not only the $28 billion to our farmers. we did so much and i'm proud to announce i'm doing even more to support wisconsin farmers. starting next week -- welcome, today

tom frieden's word from panic to neglect to panic. in other words while we are in the middle of a pandemic it has gotten our attention but as soon as it's over we don't do all the things that we should do. my hope is that with any action that we take this year, we would include the three or four things that we should take to make sure that we sustain funding which is the hardest thing to do. how do you fund for more than one year for onshore manufacturing of vaccines for example, for stock piles that were depleted between vaccines, or making sure that fema and their kadlec's organization are aligned properly and operating together. dr. redfield has talked about it and mike leavitt did to art committee the former governor of utahe that we have been underfunding public health for a30 or 40 years. i think it's important we do it this year and so in the republican bill that we offered last week we did have in their sum authorization from our committee to fund onshore manufacturing and continuous funding of stockpile so they would be full.