irs bill, financial services bill? >> so that's one of the most immediate impacts that people noticed. the trump administration -- president trump's administration has already tried to rearrange funds, so they say that these w-2s and tax refunds can still start to be kind of -- they can least issue out the w-2s, because this is going to affect irs refunds. but, again, that's only a matter of how long extra funds kind of lying around in these agencies' coffers carry over balances. other small amounts of money in various programs. they can somehow use their authority to move that money to keep things open. but, again, so we're going to first go with this financial services bill, funding irs, treasury. this is going to be on wednesday, the house is going to vote on a rule, which contains four appropriations bills. the first one they're then going to vote on separately, send over to the senate as financial services, then on thursday we have agriculture. then interior environment, and then on friday, the expectation is consideration and passage of the transportation hud bill. so in addition to those legislative vehicles you announced -- or you mentioned earlier, which are spending bills

wednesday they passed a bill to fund irs operations. here is a look at the hour-long debates. mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentle

shutdown when i look at how it is affecting federal work, followed by house debates on a bill to fund irs operations and financial services as part of an effort by democrats to reopen parts of the federal government. later, congressional leaders talk about negotiations with the president after a closed-door meeting yesterday at the white house. and house minority leader and other democratic lawmakers held a news conference wednesday to talk about the government shutdowns impact on federal spirit they also called on president drumm -- trump to support legislation reopening the federal government. from outside the u.s. capitol, this is 40 minutes. >> we are going to go ahead and get started. the government, as all of you know, is shutdown.

irs bill? kellie: that is one of the most immediate impact that people notice. the trump administration has already tried to rearrange funds, so they say that these w-2's and tax refunds, they can at least issue the w-2's, because this is going to affect irs refunds. that is only a matter of how long extra funds are lying around in these agencies' coffers. they can somehow use their authority to move that money to keep things open. we are going to first go with the financial services bill. this is going to be on wednesday. the house is going to vote on a rule which contains four appropriations bills. the first one gets sent over to the senate and financial services. on thursday, we have agriculture, interior environment, and on friday, consideration and passage of the transportation hud bill. in addition to those legislative vehicles you mentioned earlier, spending bills they did at the very beginning of the 116th congress, the house is now launching four other spending bills to the senate this week. if nothing else, the house have been saying that this is just messaging -- if nothing else, this is providing the senate leg

fund. the wall with irs funding may be the biggest crack yet in the wall. we've got to stop talking about the wall as if that is some kind of a metaphor. let's look at what in fact we're talking about. the sides are nowhere near far apart. when i taught as a tenured professor of law, if i asked some first year law students, they would see all of the elements on the table for a compromise. the democrats and the republicans aren't far away at all, and the president himself has stopped using the word "wall" and he is saying essentially call it what you may. with the irs funding, i think we're going to begin to see the president do what he is doing tonight, and that is to try to shore up even his own base and certainly the american people who have long left him on the question of the wall. >> congresswoman, the president said that he can understand the plight of federal workers that aren't going to be receiving paychecks come january 11th, these people who are living paycheck to paycheck, some who are getting $500 every time they see that paycheck. and now they

california pizza kitchen is participating in an all day fund raise ir. denating 20% of the diners check to corporal sing. he was gunned down in a traffic stop in december. we stopped in at one restaurant in san francisco at lunchtime. where customers were already participating. >> we have had several already. we just opened. we have a couple police officers that came in and ordered take out. they're doing it as well. it's really good to see the community coming out and expressing interest in raising money for fallen heros. >> the program runs through dinner until closing tonight. at all local california pizza kitchens. >> tonight a community meeting to figure out how to reduce the traffic on the crooked part of lombard street. within proposal charges drivers a fee to drive down the street. they would need a reservation to do so. the community meeting will be held at the elementary school on jones and lombard at 6:00 p.m. tonight. >> all right. if you have kids you know this. it can be a challenge to get them to eat healthy. when the advice comes from a g

wednesday they passed a bill to fund irs operations. here is a look at the hour-long debates. mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. quigley: now that democrats have taken the majority in the house, we have shown our intention to govern responsibly and have already illustrated real leadership at every turn. a welcome change after fighting through two years of chaos and obstruction, which culminated in a reckless shutdown. at the end of the day, the president's beloved border wall is the issue solely responsible for this irresponsible shutdown, and it is an absolute disgrace and a disservice to all americans to allow this broken campaign promise to hold all of the key funding bills hostage. from delays in the processing of federal loan assistance, applications for small businesses and the uncertainty created for taxpayers during tax season to regulatory agencies like the f.t.c. not being able to pursue the vast majority of consumer protection investigations. i've seen first hand how this shutdown is impactin

so if the democrats are going to put up a bill that funds the irs or an agriculture bill that f d fundsp benefits that is different from the homeland appropriations bill where wall funding would be, there are a lot of republicans i think that are going to say, i don't want to vote against a clean bill for the irs or for agriculture or any other number of different bills and that's what's going to be asked of them and that's responsive to senator graham's question over whether that's not backing up the president or not. i think a lot of members are going to look at that and say this has nothing to do with supporting the president or not and it's a vote separate and apart from a border wall. >> former congressman ryan costello, congressman, always appreciate your insight. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. and ss you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but at fidelity, we help you prepare for the unexpected with retirement planning and advice for what you need today and tomorrow. because when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear, there's nothin

government agencies reopened amid the shutdown with eight republicans joining with democrats to fund the irs, treasury department and other financial services. the house will vote on national parks, housing, transportation and food stamps as well. the president is threatening to veto the bills and mitch mcconnell says he will not bring any vote to the floor without the support of the president. >>> the familiar face reportedly getting closer to the 2020 presidential run on the democratic ticket. the word is that senator kamala harris will make a final decision on martin luther king jr. day later this month according to the political insider. harris was asked about the rumors and while she did not say yes, she did not shoot down the speculation. >> sources close to senator harris say that the freshman senator will likely make an announcement with the campaign rally in oakland before becoming senator, the attorney general of california, and a san francisco district attorney before that. >>> the high school football player from belmont will be laid to rest. the police are searching for the kill

government agents these reopened amid the sat down with eight republicans joining with democrats to fund the irs, treasury department and other financial services. each day this week they will vote on bills for the various agencies but unlikely to be taken up in the senate. mitch mcconnell said he will not bring any vote to the floor that does not have the support of the president. >>> i am anne makovec at the live desk and we have eyes on texas with the second suspect is about to make his initial court appearance. you remember the seven-year-old girl killed while riding in the car with her mom last month when she was shot in the head and died. there was a massive hot for her murderer and they thought originally could be racially motivated. it turns out it could be a case of mistaken identity. the driver in this case allegedly was arrested on saturday. we have a second suspect, larry woodruffe, and the anonymous tipster said that the first suspect in an and -- man named lw were responsible for the shooting and of course larry woodruffe matching those initials and expect to make the first court a

security, hoping republican members will say, well, i have to vote for, this i'm in favor of funding the irs during tax season and other nonrelated border security ish oos. so they're clearly hoping that will force republicans to lose some leverage. >> shepard: mike emanuel, live on capitol hill. we expect to hear from republicans and democratic leader in washington in a moment. our coverage continues on fox news channel after this. if you're a veteran homeowner and need money for your family, call newday usa. a newday va home loan lets you refinance your home and take out 54,000 dollars or more to pay credit card debt, or just put money in the bank. it even lowers your payments by over 600 dollars a month. as a veteran, you've earned the powerful va home loan benefit that lets you refinance up to 100 percent of your home's value. and with home values rising, that can mean a lot more money for you and your family. and because newday usa has been granted automatic authority by the va, they can say yes when banks say no. and they'll do all the va paperwork for you. we all know some of life's m

. >> even the trump administration realized that when they helped fund the irs refund checks. we're talking already about 3 to billion worth of damage to the overall economy. that's just in the first couple of weeks. if people don't get their paychecks in the weeks ahead, that's going to multiply and it's going to effect air travel. it's going to effectagreculture and there's still a lot of government that we need to make things work and what people are really upset about is this is probably the most glaring example of a phony issue that resulted in real pain. in other words, the balance between the reality and the pain is completely out of whack. this is completely manufactured crisis as you pointed out at the top. >> have to get to another guest but michael, briefly. >> howard just nailed it. that just summed it upright there. this is a phony crisis. one that you can clearly delay and people are paying for it. in a real way and i'm hoping that members of congress and others put pressure on the administration to get off the dime here. >> maybe that's a little bit happening be

yesterday the house approved the first bill to fund the irs and other financial agencies which the whitee has threatened to veto. during that vote, eight house republicans broke ranks and voted with the democrats on that bill. joining us now is one of them. republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois. congressman, thank you so much for being with us. why did you cast your vote to reopen or fund at least part of the government? >> i think shutdowns are stupid. i think it's the dumbest way do government and the world and people laugh at us when we can't get our act together and we use shutdown as a way for leverage. this goes to both sides. this isn't an attack on the president or just the democrats. i voted for this because i said i want to build a border wall, i support it, i voted for the money, i think the president is right to say that if we're going to have a negotiation, nancy pelosi's got 0 get off her absolutely no wall position because from that position it's untenable. but my view is when we can open parts of government and in essence kind of release host ables hostages in

president to say hey -- >> house republicans, many are not going to vote against the clean funding for the irs or fda or other items. it is going to be if the president is going to sign it, if the senate is not going to take it up, me being against it is being practical so we can get to the final vote. i would say this, the best advice i got when i started in congress, never say what you won't ever do because you don't want to box yourself in a corner. for as much as the president has boxed himself into a corner, i think democrats have boxed themselves in the corner by saying i won't give one penny. if there is a way to fashion this, it was used houfor howevee chose. as it continues, people may blame the president and republicans in congress. i do think the pendulum shifted a little bit. what are democrats are going to be on? >> you said the president will declare a national emergency in order to get out of this. is that the end game here, why had he not done it already? >> everything he had done the past several days is to tee it up. that's the cleanest way out. more importantly, this is a se

the house passed a spending bill which would include funding for the irs, how the shutdown will impacts, the timeline on getting refunds. >> refunds are delayed, you only had 12% of the irs working, if you bring back for load workers who weren't going to get paid, they will start using sick time, in spite of the fact, and they are paid out of the people to them. who is going to do the work? the irises then on resources to start with. this shutdown is devastating. heather: even with democratic promises they can make the promises they want but they don't have to follow through with it. >> a question of the legality because tax refunds are considered nonessential. from a governmental standpoint, can you go back and have the irs go back to work for nonessential services. heather: a double whammy for all those federal workers already working without pay who may be waiting for that tax return. >> absolutely. heather: eight minutes until the top of the our. look at this terrifying moment caught on camera. a car slamming into a police cruiser bursting into flames. what led to all this. >> hits

the first measure funding the treasury department and irs so americans can get their tax refunds on time, but no sign that the senate will take up those measures or the white house would support them. white house correspondent boris sanchez with more. >> reporter: christine and dave, as we have seen during other meetings between top officials and lawmakers, we're hearing two different sides as to what happened during these negotiations to reopen the federal government. and potentially fund some sort of barrier between the united states and mexico. president trump on one hand tweeting out that this was a productive meeting on sunday afternoon. people inside the room though are giving different accounts. according to sources this meeting was not very productive, one democratic source explaining that republicans presented to democrats a specific outline, an official justification for spending $5.7 billion on the president's long promised border wall, that democratic source feeling that the republican presentation was incomplete in their words. on the other hand, democrats have continued to

. >> now, democrats use their new house majority to pass a bill, funding the treasury department and the irs. but it's not likely to get a vote in the senate. and president trump has said he will not sign any legislation that does not include funding to build a border wall. >>> well, the government shutdown is causing the food and drug administration to halt most of its routine food safety inspections. the agency is working to bring back 150 employees to inspect facilities deemed high risk. now, that includes seafood, soft cheeses and vegetables. inspectors who handle meat and poultry are not being paid during the shutdown. but those meat inspections are still ongoing. >>> marin county is dipping into its own funds to pay for the cleaning and upkeep of rest rooms at point reyes national seashore. county officials tell the marin journal that limited conditions have left unsanitary conditions in the park. they agreed to a stop gap agreement with the federal government. it's expected to cost the county $1,000. >>> federal employees impacted by the shutdown and their supporters, will be holding

federal courts and in a few short months the irs can issue funds that our vital to so many families yesterday inviting congressional leaders to the white house speaker pelosi and i sought to have a sensible discussion about how to reopen the government. we propose to bills that separate the wall from the government shutdown. let me repeat that. the two bills we proposed separate the wall fight in the government shutdown. you don't have to have one even if you cannot resolve the other. and provide appropriations for every cabinet department except homeland security and second, a 30 day continuing resolution for homeland security. the six bills are not democratic bills as i heard some of the commentators say. the six bills are the same a bills that republicans , including leader mcconnell supported in the senate appropriations committee. the continuing resolution passed unanimously through the house last year. and four out of the six came to the floor and passed 92 / six the vast majority republicans and democrats for it so these are not democratic bills they were crafted in a bipartisan wayer

democrats are putting individual funding bills on the floor starting with finance today to fund, for example, the irs. tomorrow they are planning to vote on funding for agriculture and housing and urban development. democrats say after passing those bills while makers can continue discussions about border security. >> the obvious exit here at the white house, they will come to the table and be responsible. to reopen the government, pass funding bills, as the republican senate has. >> the republicans concern is that if you pass all those bills, democrats still won't be interested in border security money. harris? >> harris: mike emanuel, thank you very much. republican foxman louie gohmert of texas is here with me now. president trump will tour tomorrow in your state, but is coming to the capital in next few minutes. you and i may inherit that breaking news together and we will handle it as it comes. first of all, your comments on where we are after the president 's address last night with being able to make a deal to open the government and get a wall. >> its next ordinary time. historically speaking

funds. >>> meanwhile, the irs is calling back 46,000 workers to handle tax returns and refunds.s more than half the agency's staff. they won't be paid either. this will be the first tax filing season under the new tax laws. other federal workers called back without pay will oversee flight safety and food inspections. >>> britain's prime minister faces another critical vote today, a day after lawmakers defeated her brexit deal. today theresa may faces a no confidence vote in parliament which she's expected to survive. she also faces a deadline of next monday to offer a new brexit plan, and time is starting to run out. britain is due to leave the european union at the end of march. >>> in los angeles the teachers strike is entering its third day with no new talks between the teachers and the school district's schedule. despite schools being open, student attendance is way off. just 144,000 out of more than 600,000 were in class monday. slightly more kids went to school yesterday. >>> speaking of kids, we know attorney general william barr had at least one person in the hearing roo

the bill would fund the treasury department, irs and other agencies ahead of tax season. nate republicans said they would vote to re-open the government without funding for the border wall. despite the obvious breaks within the republican ranks here's what the president told nbc's kasie hunt before leaving capitol hill yesterday. >> the fake news, i just want to tell you that the republicans are unified. >> back with us now reporter for "the washington post," eugene scott. you saw the president there claiming a united front with his fellow republicans. clearly that not the case. what is motivating these lawmakers to break from the president's demands and are we going to see more republicans jump ship as we, as more days get tacked on to this government shutdown? >> from my reporting many lawmakers are hearing from their constituents and seeing the ramifications of having a government shutdown. so these americans are having their lives significantly changed and they want their lawmakers to know that they have the power to make things easier for them. >> so let me get your t

the measure would fund agencies like the treasury department and the irs. if passed by the senate and signed by the president, that is a big if, the vote was 240-188, significant to note eight republicans joined democrat zs in voting in favor, up from seven republicans who supported a similar measure last week. >> each day the house plans to vote on individual appropriations bills to reopen national parks, housing an agricultural departments, but mitch mcconnell insists that he will not take up any measure without president trump's blessing. so the bills appear to be going nowhere. >>> we're getting new details about the time line for the upcoming departure of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. jessica schneider reports the man who oversees the russia probe may have to be flexible about the date of miss final hi in office. >> reporter: donees out rod rosenstein has long been planning his departure when he was satisfied that mueller's investigation was either complete or close enough to complete that it was protected. so with rosenstein's upcoming possi

despite no deal, democrats use their new house majority wednesday to pass a bill funding the treasury department and the irs. it is unlikely to go any further. meanwhile furloughed workers were on capitol hill ahead of what could be their first missed heyday of the shutdown. >> to use them as hostages threw a temper tantrum by the president is just so wrong. so when fair. so mean-spirited. >> reporter: president trump was also on the hill for lunch with republican senators. >> i would say we have a very very unified party. >> reporter: both parties are unified publicly but hairline fractures maybe forming. some lawmakers expecting tougher elections in 2020 are calling for a short-term deal soon. >> we need to open this government and that we need to make sure that we have some serious discussions about border security. >> reporter: president trump will continue trying to build public support for border security thursday when he visits mcallen, texas. >>> the government shutdown has caused the fda to halt most of its routine food safety inspections. but the agency is working to bring back about 150 employees

irs tax refunds will be delayed. house speaker nancy pelosi says this week lawmakers will start passing funding measures beginning withhose tax refunds on schedule jennifer johnson, nbc news, washington >>> we're joined by christopher smart head of barings joins us on the line from boston. thanks for getting up so early this morning, mr. smart. >> good morning. >> the fed chair faced oval office criticism over the last few months do you think that jerome powell has been given a fair shake by market participants when it comes to his communication strategy >> well, there's fair and there's fair in some sense we do expect a lot of fed chair to solve all of the problems that are confronting the market if you look at the macro economic data coming out of the u.s. particularly retail sales at christmas the jobs number last week, it's very hard to argue that there are economic textbooks that would lead you to believe that the central banks should be supportive of the economy at this stage. i also think that, you know, he and his colleagues really only have a couple blunt instruments at their disposal. and the jitters in the

. >> today the house approved a bill to fund the treasury department and the irs and other agencies for next year but keep in mind the bill is not likely to move federal in the republican-controlled senate. >>> the shutdon has made things especially confusing for travelers. with questions about whether millions could fly with a real i.d. and amid questions over compliance. >> late today a reprieve. melanie woodrow is live at the san francisco dmv with the story. melanie? >> reporter: well here is something. if you are confused, you are not alone. people here at the dmv in san francisco that has been waiting to get their real i.d. are also confused and those appointments ar difficult to come by. at the 11th hour, the department of homeland security extended california's federal real i.d. extension to april 1st, 2019. the existing extension granted to the department of motor vehicles was set to expire tomorrow. the expiration would have meant that anyone flying -- domestically would need a government i.d. to fly in the united states. a driver's license would not have been enough. people h

democrats use their new house majority to pass a bill, funding the treasury department in the irs, but is unlikely to get a vote in the senate. president trump has said he will not sign any legislation that does not include funding for the wall. and we just learned that during governor newsom's budget press conference, he announced that california federal workers can apply for unemployment through the state, while they are not receiving those paychecks. >>> happening now, federal workers impacted by the ongoing shutdown and their supporters are holding rallies across the country. this is the scene. a minute ago, we showed you what was happening in san francisco. engineers and scientists who worked for the environmental protection agency, holding this rally at the epa region 9 offices on hawthorne street between folsom and howard. federal furloughed employees will talk about how the shutdown is impacting them. >>> the partial government shutdown has reached the bay area. a help room has been set up in mountain view. to help nasa ames employees. to help some of the costs associated with

that means the irs now lacks funding.ason approaches, that means your calls, taxpayer calls go unanswered and a prolonged shutdown could delay your tax refund. there is the census bureau. they provide critical reports on the economy. in the middle of a trade war, we are losing those updates. usda is shutdown. it is important on crop production, prices and sales. that goes dark in the middle of, again, a trade war that affects american agriculture. also food stamps will be funded. there is still meat inspections. but the federal trade commission is shuttered. consumers can't file complaints or get help with identity theft. the labor department is funded through september. also, no changes to passports for now. those are paid for with fees, so passport offices remain open. i was in boston last weekend and you wouldn't go to the jfk presidential library because that partners with the national archives. but you could go to the "uss constitution." so you really have to pick and choose. that's tourism. you can delay a trip, rig

. >> democrats use their new majority in the house to pass a bill, funding the treasury department and the irs. but it's not likely to get a vote in the senate. president trump has said he will not sign any legislation that does not include funding for the border wall. >> the government shutdown is causing the food and drug administration to halt most of its routine food safety inspections. the agency is working to bring back about 150 employees to inspect facilities deemed high risk. that includes seafoods, soft cheeses and vegetables. inspectors at the agriculture department that inspect meat and poultry are not being shut down. but those still ongoing. >>> point reyes national seashore. county officials tell the marin independent journal that limited rest rooms have caused unsanitary conditions in the park. on tuesday, the board of supervisors voted to approve a two-week stop-gap agreement with the federal government. that's expected to cost the county $1,000. >>> federal workers affected by the shutdown, and their supporters will be holding rallies today. outside of the white house and aro

just a short time ago the house did approve an appropriations bill that would fund the treasury and the irs. >> eight republicans voted with democrats, but had already threatened to veto bills that already deal with individual agencies. >> late thifternoon a meeting between the president and congressional leaders went nowhere. >> they demanded once again that before any negotiations could begin that we would have to agree to reopen the rngont. >> and when leader pelosi said she didn't agree with the wall, kehe just w out and said we have nothing to discuss. >> president trump said once again this afternoon that he is considering bypassing congress by declaring a national emergency. >>> meanwhile, a pair of sisters who also happen to be furloughed federal employees had a sweetid to raise some dough during this government shutdown. >> and how they're using dessert to earn some cash. cory? >> reporter: well, like many furloughed employees those sisters are hurting financially. government is closed brings about more stress. so what do you do when you're stressed? well, you tend to comfort eat.

protection agency, forest service, deep arbitration including the irs, the judiciary, , executive office of the president. we're trying to fund the executive office of the president. the district of columbia, deep robin of agriculture including the food stamp program, fda, deep robin of transportation, department of housing and urban development, department of commerce, department of justice including thef fbi, science related agencies including nasa, department of state and several related and independent agencies. that was the motion i made was objected to by the majority leader, three items quickly. there are three levels of just surreal illogic to the position that we are in. the first is we are having a legitimate debate between congress and the president with border security and immigration reform. that's a very legitimate debate on which they are intellectually respectful differences of opinion. but if were having a debate about that, why would we punish the workers that are charged with administering the food stamp program? why would we punish workers international forest of the national parks? why would we punish the

>> i would say some of the most basic things the irs is not able to do because of the funding drop offh one area is people who do not file any tax return at all. it is hard for the irs to find those people and to tell them you owe this money and track him down and make them pay. they basically just stopped doing it. soif you don't file taxes, they're not opening investigations. they're saying, we don't have people that need to be -- to do things that we need done, other things take more resources that take a lot of time, we just don't have the people to do it so we're not going to do it. amy: i want to thank you very much for being with us, paul kiel, reporter for propublica recovers business and the economy. contributor to the recent series headlined "gutting the irs." the subtitle, a multiyear campaign to slash the irs budget has lifted understaffed and on the defensive. that is been good news for tax cheats, the rich, and the corporations, but not for the poor." that does it for our program. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-m

the day, democrats say i don't know how you can do that because, you know, they are not funded right now at the irs. you could see that starting to make a dent in the economy and perhaps have reverberations on wall street. david: we should mention by the way the last three government shutdowns, the markets were up during the course of that shutdown. >> right. david: we will see what happens. chad, great stuff. thank you very much for being here. >> my pleasure. david: we are keeping a close eye on capitol hill. vice president pence and the head of homeland securities are meeting now with republican lawmakers. when a if those folks come -- when and if those folks come out to speak, we will take you back there live. keep it right here on fox business for full coverage and analysis of the president's address tonight. i'm going to be here along with trish regan to tee it up followed by reaction with neil cavuto and kennedy. meanwhile, stocks up for a third straight day today on news we could be inching closer to clinching a trade deal with china. investors are optimistic. so should you be as well? so i

despite no deal, democrats used their new house majority wednesday to pass a bill funding the treasury department and the irs. it's unlikely to go any further. meanwhile, furloughed workers were on capitol hill ahead of what could be their first missed payday of the shutdown. >> to use them as hostages through a temper tantrum by the president is so unfair, so mean spirited. >> reporter: president trump was also on the hill for lunch with republican senators. >> i would say that we have a very, very unified party. >> reporter: both unified parties are unified practically, but hairline fractures may are forming. some of calling for a short-term deal soon. >> we need to opened the government and make sure we have serious discussions about border security. >> now senator lindsey graham has been meeting with a lot of those senators we were just talking about for some kind of behind the scenes sidebar negotiations. one of the things he's talked about is the idea of a deal for daca in exchange for president trump's border wall money. while it's certainly not a definite, it's certainly something to follow. ktvu fox

to what has happened from 2010 to the present, the irs has lost 23,000 employees as a result, you know what we also added has lost $715 million in funding. they were in a vulnerable position. then you have the situation with the new tax reform legislation, and i think the irs didn't have the funding to really carry out everything that was going to be required as effectively as they otherwise would have been. you've got to have a lot of training. the biggest tax reform legislation i might add, and i've already heard from the members of those antiquated it wasn't sufficient and then we have to shut down the shuts dowe training stops. whatever folks were trained in advance of the shuts down, many of them are out of work for almost a month so they have to be retrained so it really creates a difficult situation and i think it delays a lot of things and so as a citizen, i would certainly be concerned about whether or not the tax season, which is supposed to start on january 28, you know, is the irs really ready to carry out the tax season. and as a result, what does that mean for tax refunds? i don't personally know the answer to that, but i

fund the treasury. up,ave tax refunds coming the irs under a lot of strain. we have a debt limit coming up that needs to be extended. are they not going to fund the treasury? it puts moderate republicans in a tough position. ame of your voters may want wall, but if you are up for reelection in a swing district, you may vote to reopen the treasury. pelosi is going to see how many people she can peel off this week. this is going to be a contest. can speaker pelosi figure out a way to break republicans down? can trump come up with a way to convince the country there is a crisis? one of those sides is going to make more progress than the other. hank, south carolina, republican line. go ahead. do you remember the pbs documentary, 15 or 20 years ago, court of shame, a certain section of south carolina. i live in that corridor. a bunch of schools, some only have 200 or 300 students. hasy school in this county two or more second-language teachers. get are so bad, they cannot spanish teachers in the united states. they have to get them from other countries. ,aybe you c

house democrats, meanwhile, increased pressure late today to fund the treasury department and the irs, although that bill is dead on arrival in the senate. five republican senators, susan collins, north carolina -- and alaska's lisa murkowski. have all spoken out in favor of ending this shutdown. after today's lunch with senate republicans, president trump insisted republicans remain solid and united. >> any republicans today tell you that they want you to pursue a different track? >> we talked about a couple talked about -- a couple. talked about strategy, but they're with us all the way. the republicans are totally unified. >> well, senator mccokousky said she did in fact challenge the president. >> i did suggest that there was some separation in terms of how long the shutdown would continue. the meeting with the president? um, i wish that we had a little more clear direction as to how we're going to get there. >> this is a tough one for your former party, david, because the way i set it up and peter, agree with me. you have a guy who says if you don't have a wall, you're not a repu

. >> this hour house lawmakers are debating the bill to fund financial services such as the irs, during tax season, bottom line leading house democrat made this appeal for republicans to get onboard. >> yes, we are going to be able to work together on a lot of good legislation. but why don't you join with us and talk to the president, and tell him to open up government. that we cannot continue to have the american people suffer. >> majority leader mitch mcconnell said the individual bills would be dead on arrival in the senate. key republican says he thinks president trump is not about to budge either. >> i see no indication that he is faltering in his belief, which i happen to share, and that is that we need to seal our southern border. i just don't, i don't see him giving an inch on this. >> a senator close to the white house talked about president trump's focus at lunch with republican senators. the message was hang together. to make sure we get the border security package, the president thinks and believes we need to secure the border. against multiple threats. there's a lot of unit

the measure would fund agencies like the treasury department, irs. the vote because 240-188, and it is significant to note eight republicans joined democrats voting in favor, that is up from accept republicans who supported a similar measure last week. >>> each day this week, the house plans to votes on individual appropriate yapgss bills to reopen national parks as well as housing, transportation and agricultural departments. but mitch mcconnell insists that he will not take up any measure without president's blessing. so the bills appear to be headed nowhere. >>> we're getting new details about the time line for the updoiup doi coming departure of rod rosenstein. he may have to be flexible about the date of his final day in office. >> reporter: dave and christine, it turns out rod rosenstein has long been planning his departure. we know that the deputy attorney general has been signaling that he would leave the justice department when he was satisfied that mueller's investigation was either complete or close enough to complete that it was protected

shutdown over border wall funding with congress planning to skip next week's scheduled recess if it continues. in the meantime, the trump administration is calling some 46,000 furloughed irs employees back to work without pay for tax filing season. this morning house speaker nancy pelosi released a letter to president trump that due to the lack of funds the secret service and homeland security can't handle the security needs of the stated of the union speech. the house is working on an emergency spending package which includes funding for the government for the next three weeks. follow live coverage of the house on c-span. >>> sunday on q&a, author and journalist patricia miller and her book "bringing down the colonel" on a late 19th century sex scandal involving the kentucky congressman who was sued by his former mistress. >> the number of middle names should signify he was in the southern elite, respected colonel, in the confederate cavalry. at the time in lawsuit he's in his fifth term in congress. she was nobody, she was literally a poor girl from kentucky with literary aspirations hungry for an education. she was this hungry young woman who ran into breckenridge at a

. >> pelosi says the house will begin funding measure next week starting with the irs to keep tax refundsn schedule. the certainty of tax returns of hard-working families should no longer be held hostage to the president's demands. >> the president is apart of a marketing team. he has been tweeting his view of the border wall including a picture himself "the wall is coming." we said he's going to camp david today, we hope to have a chance to talk to him when he departs the white house. >> debate over building materials, concrete or steel. kelly o'donell at the white house. thank you so much. for more, we turn to chuck todd and kristen welker and the moderator of "meet the press". good morning, chuck, i will start with you in washington. we are trying to figure out how this fever breaks. democrats say we'll give you $1.3 billion, how is that? >> how do we break this? where is the moving point here? >> i don't know. at this point, thhere is a grou of folks that i am watching. they're the ones, the president dug in and the democrats are united on this. they're not having any fracturing. who'

irs has lost 23,000 employees. as a result, you know -- and let me also add, has lost $715 million in funding. i believe even going into the shutdown the irs was in a very vulnerable position. ten you had the situation with the new tax reform legislation and i think the irs didn't have enough people, didn't have the funding to really carry out everything that was going to be required for that as effectively as they otherwise would is been. got to have a lot of training to train the irs employees to deal with all of the questions, the millions of questions that are going to come in about the tax reform legislation, new tax laws, biggest tax reform legislation in 30 years i might add, and that training i already -- i heard from our members was antiquated, it wasn't sufficient and then we have the shutdown. so the training stops. the -- whatever folks were trained in advance of the shutdown, they've -- many of them were out of work almost a month. they have to be retrained. so it really creates a difficult situation and i think delays a lot of things and so as a citizen, i would certainly be conce

. >> reporter: please says the house will begin passion funding measures next week starting with the irs to keep tax refunds on schedule. the certainty of the tax returns of hard working families should no longer be held hostage to the president's reckless demands. and the president has not personally been involved in negotiations this weekend, but he is apparently part of the marketing team. the president has been tweeting his views orthe bor wall, including a picture of himself with sort of a movie-like logo, the wall is coming, and at the bottom of the screen you see what appeared to be steel slats, e revised updated view of what ths president thi he could sell as part of the wall. we hope to is there a chance to talk him. now a debate over building materials, concrete or steel. for more let's turn to nbc news white house director kristen of "meet and moderat the press" chucked to. thanks for joining us. we're trying to figure out f ho ther breaks. the president wants $5.7 billion for some kind of structure, steel or concrete, democrats say we'll give you $1.3 billion. how is that. ho

same for native american tribes who rely on federal funding for essential services like health care and law enforcement. with most of the irsutdown may -- may -- mean a delay in tax refunds. that will get everybody's attention. federal courts run out of funding next week but not the russia investigation. funding for the special counsel continues. so does government money helping the people of california. those still recovering from the devastating wildfires last month, hundreds of fema workers are still getting paid on the ground running badly needed relief centers, helping people find shelter and providing loans to them. and where public safety is keshed let's not forget that the tsa agents and air traffic controllers working despite not getting paid. it's a lot to consider. >>> coming up, paul ryan, back home in wisconsin. no doubt enjoying his freedom while now having to earn a living, may be interested in learn how another former speaker is making money. that story when we come back. hey, darryl! hey, thomas. if you were choosing a network, would you want the one the experts at rootmetrics say is number one in the natio

if it's worth about the border and not 2020, we would have a funding bill that funded every agency, irs ones that are closer now, that would put all of them back up. we would be dealing with the one agency that would deal with his border security. we are not doing that. they have to have all of the agencies shutdown to keep the pressure on. hold on just a second, juan. what he has to do to keep himself level 42020 is do something on health care to help him with the suburbs. this is not a base problem for him. the as to whether republicans right now, we need to make sure that we do something. >> sandra: what republicans unite behind the president if he did go with declaring a national emergency? >> it may be the only option that we have. are we going to have everybody on board? well, nothing is 100% in america. >> bill: if you declare a national emergency, probably a court case in a matter of 5 minutes, which freezes the order. three years down the road. now you have an issue in 2020. that the president runs on. >> he has tweeted. if you look at at this, very interesting, eight congressi

and candidly, the irs wasn't ready for that. lack of funding, lack of personnel. en we come to a shutdown. >>> now, what was supposed to happen, of course, in advance of the shutdown and through where we've been in the shutdown, is training. for irs employees, so that they are ready to deal with the millions of calls that are going to invariably come in, right, and they're not going to have the training. the training i've heard is antiquated. it's not what it should be. and so there are a lot of problems and i think we have a lot of concerns about whether or not the tax season is going to happen the way it's supposed to. >> so when you talk to your members, what are they saying? >> they are angry. they feel helpless. and i will tell you, stephanie, i think it's an excellent question because we have a large number of our members, that they literally cannot afford the bus fare, the gas, the ability to pay for child care in order to go in to work. so, you know, what is happening here is absolutely incredible. and i'll tell you this. here's what is mystifying to me. th

they should fund the department of interior, agriculture, the irs, that has nothing to do with borderake care of that and confine the fight to the homeland security appropriations bill, and then once the government has reopened, i would just have a serious negotiation between the house and the senate and the president on this $5 billion for border security. and if i were the democrats, i would simply demand that you take care of the dreamers, the tps population, i would also maybe insist on a mueller protection bill and force the president to make a decision. but this can be easily resolved. republicans are not doing well in this fight, in my view. look, the president owns this shutdown. he pretty much admitted as much. so, really, right now, the answer is getting the government reopened. and i recommended doing just what the democrats proposed before christmas. this is an easy way out. >> julie, how hard is it for congressional republicans in the white house who says the president will accept a certain deal, only for the president to then say he won't, sometimes just hours later? >>