g. terry ma madona from the f and m college poll. rene and -- rene amoore, let's talk about the movement to change policing, outrage has grown in ferguson and new york city and cleveland two resulting grand jury decisions, protests have taken place in philadelphia and across the country. president obama has asked the philadelphia police commissioner, charles ramsey to head the task force on 21st century policing to seek ways to build trust between police and minorities communities while at the same time reducing crime. so much to talk about, i think i want to start by can asking thir maybe interject. police need to be able to tell their families they will come home at night safe. they need to protect themselves, right? at the same time citizens need to feel they are not going to be wrongfully abused or killed by police. two very simple suggestions here, how do you balance that? >> it's hard to reconcile, the 180-degree difference of point of view between the black community and the white community in the united states. there's a vari