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libya meant gadhafi. libya meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya meant a bad place where a comical, megalomaniacal dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan capital. >> they fought like hell. >> the rebels are about to force gadhafi's complete departure. >> and they recorded the whole thing on their cell phones. >> libya! ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la ♪ sha la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ >>> it's amazing arriving here after all you see on tv these days that libya is, in fact, functioning at all. but it is. the fountains across fro
libya meant gadhafi. libya meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya meant a bad place where a comical, megalomaniacal dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan...
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and gadhafi and his whole family fled.ement in the country because it seemed like it was over. >> but it isn't over, not while gadhafi and his sons remain in hiding. until october 20th, 2011. that day, tracy shelton is with a group of militia fighters she's been profiling for months. >> that morning, some of the guys from the battalion had gone into surt, and i'd gone in with them. >> around 8:30 a.m., a heavily armored convoy of about 70 vehicles is seen leaving surt, gadhafi's hometown and his last remaining stronghold. >> there were snipers all over the city that were set up to protect the convoy. everybody knew there was somebody important in this group. >> nato forces bombed the caravan from the air. dozens are killed. >> there were a lot of survivors that had run into the bushes, into houses in this area. >> as rebel fighters prepare to head to the site of the convoy bombing, shelton asks if she can go along. but they refuse. >> that was the only time they ever said no. they told me, no, you can't come with us. it's
and gadhafi and his whole family fled.ement in the country because it seemed like it was over. >> but it isn't over, not while gadhafi and his sons remain in hiding. until october 20th, 2011. that day, tracy shelton is with a group of militia fighters she's been profiling for months. >> that morning, some of the guys from the battalion had gone into surt, and i'd gone in with them. >> around 8:30 a.m., a heavily armored convoy of about 70 vehicles is seen leaving surt,...
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when moammar gadhafi was forced out of power and killed. the son of the late libyan leader was briefly kidnapped today. hannibal gadhafi, away seen in a video that aired on lebanese tv appealing for information about that leader. his kidnappers released the young gadhafi several hours later. >>> former ties to the leader of libya, tony blair insisted he did not try the save gadhafi at the height of his 2011 conflict. al jazeera's jonah hull reports. >> questions about libya for former british prime minister tony blair. u.s. state department males revealed that mr. blair tried to save colonel gadhafi in a series of phone calms, told the libyan leader to leave for aplace of safety in order to stop the bloodshed. >> it wasn't as i say my concern was not for his safety. my concern was to get him out of the situation so that a peaceful transition could take place. >> reporter: the pair had formed a close relationship. blair famously brought gadhafi back into the international fold during a meeting in the libyan desert in 2004. gadhafi agreed ogi
when moammar gadhafi was forced out of power and killed. the son of the late libyan leader was briefly kidnapped today. hannibal gadhafi, away seen in a video that aired on lebanese tv appealing for information about that leader. his kidnappers released the young gadhafi several hours later. >>> former ties to the leader of libya, tony blair insisted he did not try the save gadhafi at the height of his 2011 conflict. al jazeera's jonah hull reports. >> questions about libya for...
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gadhafi agreed to give up his weapons of mass destruction. they also struck oil and trade deals worth hundreds of billions of dollars. at what price adjustment, the victims of libyan crimes and the murder of yvonne fletcher in london. >> we didn't set any of these aside but we believed there was a huge prize in bringing them in a position where they were sponsoring terrorism, to a position where they were cooperating this in the fight against it, and secondly creating the circumstances in which they voluntarily gave up their chemical weapons and nuclear weapons program. >> tony blair flos a thin knowsr two. >> i can tell you today, obviously, libya is a security problem actually for us here, but i don't think you can make the judgment as to whether it would be better if we hadn't intervened because then you have got to say how would that have played out as gadhafi tried to cling on to power and others tried to remove it. and syria by the weigh where we didn't intervene and it's even worse. >> jonah hull, al jazeera. . >> official issues warni
gadhafi agreed to give up his weapons of mass destruction. they also struck oil and trade deals worth hundreds of billions of dollars. at what price adjustment, the victims of libyan crimes and the murder of yvonne fletcher in london. >> we didn't set any of these aside but we believed there was a huge prize in bringing them in a position where they were sponsoring terrorism, to a position where they were cooperating this in the fight against it, and secondly creating the circumstances in...
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blare tried to save gadhafi. libyan leader to leave for a place of safety in order to stop the bloodshed. >> my concern was not for his safety. my concern was to get him out of the situation so a peaceful transition could take place. >> reporter: the pair has formed a close relationship. blair famously brought gadhafi back into the international fold in 2004. gadhafi agreed to give up his weapons of mass destruction in return for a lifting of sanctions. >> and the price for us was enormous. >> reporter: they also struck oil and trade deals worth hundreds of billions of dollars, but the mp's wonders at what price for justice for the british victims of libyan crimes. >> we didn't set any of these issues aside, but we did believe there was a huge prize in bringing them from a position where they were sponsoring terrorism, to a position where they were cooperating in the fight against it. and then secondly, creating the circumstances in which they voluntarily gave up their chemical and nuclear weapons programs. >> re
blare tried to save gadhafi. libyan leader to leave for a place of safety in order to stop the bloodshed. >> my concern was not for his safety. my concern was to get him out of the situation so a peaceful transition could take place. >> reporter: the pair has formed a close relationship. blair famously brought gadhafi back into the international fold in 2004. gadhafi agreed to give up his weapons of mass destruction in return for a lifting of sanctions. >> and the price for us...
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i know colonel gadhafi has. that was reagan here at heritage 30 years ago. challenges that ronald reagan and jeane jeane kirkpatrick faced in the times are daunting. first and foremost the threat of soviet threat that many american thought could not be beaten. we were told that on an almost daily basis by elected officials by academics, by those in the media. but when the focus a determination and an unshakable belief in the greatness in our exceptional nation president reagan won the cold war. today we are facing challenging times both at home and abroad. again we face an aggressive enemy whose goal is nothing less than the eradication of our very way of life and there are many in this country who fear once again that we cannot defeat this enemy, that to even speak its name labels them bigots. it reminds me of that line in the usual suspect. the greatest trick the devil ever played was to convince the world he didn't exist. it seems when it comes to president obama and hillary clinton radical islamic terrorism is something that just doesn't exist. but the r
i know colonel gadhafi has. that was reagan here at heritage 30 years ago. challenges that ronald reagan and jeane jeane kirkpatrick faced in the times are daunting. first and foremost the threat of soviet threat that many american thought could not be beaten. we were told that on an almost daily basis by elected officials by academics, by those in the media. but when the focus a determination and an unshakable belief in the greatness in our exceptional nation president reagan won the cold war....
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i think a lot of people have sort of, you know, talked about half at a in gadhafi times, the strong menhat somehow is going to -- >> you say he's changed or evolved in some way since that time? >> the thing is if you read his declarations, at least verbally, he's always been for the notion of creating a state, which by the way is very much what people, libyans want. there's been misanding of libyans as sort of fractioned people, tribal people, which is true to be a extent but libyans have an understanding what a state is and want one. hair at a in appealing to the people use the language of the state. it's what the people understand and what they want. >> what about fighters on the ground, there are loose alliances, militias, even the sort of factions themselves. it's not very cohesive in the way they've been in conflict with each other, will fighters on the ground abide by this agreement? >> well, again, it's difficult to say, because militias are this sort of uncontrollable entity. the thing is, libyans are tired of militias. there's been a, you know, incidents in tripoli, incident's
i think a lot of people have sort of, you know, talked about half at a in gadhafi times, the strong menhat somehow is going to -- >> you say he's changed or evolved in some way since that time? >> the thing is if you read his declarations, at least verbally, he's always been for the notion of creating a state, which by the way is very much what people, libyans want. there's been misanding of libyans as sort of fractioned people, tribal people, which is true to be a extent but...
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today, she defended the decision to go after gadhafi. >> gadhafi had american blood on his hands.er region. our european and arab friends certainly saw him as that. and as you say, he was promising to track down his own people and kill them like cockroaches. >> and my panel is back here. we got reid, michael, and kathleen. the other part that ted cruz said actually -- this goes to a larger philosophical difference in the republican party, is he said, you know, gadhafi, yes, it was bad on human rights, bad on a lot of things, but he was helping in the war against islamic terrorism. and so, so, since you didn't have a plan to do something with the country after the fact, it shouldn't have been done. that's the larger point cruz is making. is that something that can work in the republican primary? >> that's the larger point that we took away from iraq, i believe, that saddam hussein, even though he was an awful person, you know, he was holding these disparate parts, and now we have the situation that we have now. is it a winning -- you know, anytime you can link your opponent to hill
today, she defended the decision to go after gadhafi. >> gadhafi had american blood on his hands.er region. our european and arab friends certainly saw him as that. and as you say, he was promising to track down his own people and kill them like cockroaches. >> and my panel is back here. we got reid, michael, and kathleen. the other part that ted cruz said actually -- this goes to a larger philosophical difference in the republican party, is he said, you know, gadhafi, yes, it was...
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talking about her efforts to destablize president mubarak in egypt, colonel gadhafi in libya and president assad in syria. in order to bring about that destabilization, she succeeded in egypt, she succeeded in libya, she failed in syria. she as secretary of state authorized the sale of american military equipment to qatar. qatar? little tiny country, beholden to the muslim brotherhood? what business would the united states have arming qatar. ah, qatar was delivering those arms and did to rebel groups. some of the rebel groups were al qaeda. so she is responsible for getting trump's, allegation is borne out by emails in the public domain which i have seen, which anybody can see. american heavy-duty military equipment into some of america's deadliest enemies, that's a felony, provide material assistance to terrorist organization. as a result, people died. it is not unlikely that ambassador stevens himself was killed with one of those weapons. martha: could be. a lot there. judge, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> good to see you as always. bill: 17 minutes past the hour. disturbing
talking about her efforts to destablize president mubarak in egypt, colonel gadhafi in libya and president assad in syria. in order to bring about that destabilization, she succeeded in egypt, she succeeded in libya, she failed in syria. she as secretary of state authorized the sale of american military equipment to qatar. qatar? little tiny country, beholden to the muslim brotherhood? what business would the united states have arming qatar. ah, qatar was delivering those arms and did to rebel...
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at the time, it was well known, that gadhafi had abandoned his nuclear program and its real threat of military intervention, he -- it was less well-known that he had begun cooperating with the united states in the fight against those same violent terrorists. that he was actively working to apprehend radical islamic terrorists and turn them over to america. things turnedne, for the worse. once he was gone, less than 18 months, they would overrun our facilities at benghazi and murdering for americans, including our ambassador. the first american ambassador killed in the line of duty since the carter administration. today, libya is a failed state controlled by warring terrorist networks that pose a significant threat to our ally egypt and who are openly plotting attacks on our allies in europe. the intervention in libya was in a word a disaster. the argument that republicans had to support what might have been a democratic uprising against gadhafi, but the obama administration somehow botched the job. it was poor revisionist history. this took place in 2011 after the residence cairo spee
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gadhafi may be the gone. yes, he was a dictator, but in the end, he was request cooperating with the u.s., gave up his nuclear program, compensated the pan am victims. waits a blunder to get rid of gadhafi in exchange for the isis developments in northern africa right now? moammar gadhafi bombed diskco tech in west berlin, took down an airplane filled with americans. he was a terrorist. what people want stop sign politically his strength. and it's important to have experts like peter and others go through line by line, really important. but what voters do, usually for democrats that's a harder burden. for women it's a harder burden. hillary is a democratic woman who is seen as stronger on terrorism than any of the republican men. >> the criticisms leveled against her and president obama for that matter, all of those, including marco rubio who supported getting ready of ga testifify is they didn't have a game plan to follow up and make sure there's a peaceful situation in libya that would emerge in the afterma
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you supported the removal of moammar gadhafi in libya.sis is clearly growing there. senator cruz says you haven't learned your lesson. do have you any regrets for supporting president obama's intervention in libya? >> to begin with, moammar gadhafi and the revolt was not started by the united states. it was started by the libyan people t. reason i argue we need to get involved is he was going to go one way or the other. my argument for them has proven true, that is the longer that civil war took the more militias would be formed, the more unstable the country would be after the fact. as far as moammar gadhafi is concerned, he is the man that killed those people over lockerbie, scotland. she also the man that bombed that cafe in berlin and killed those marines, and you want to know why moammar gadhafi started cooperating on his nuclear program? because it got rid of saddam hussein. he got scared he would be next. that's why he started cooperating. we will have to work around the world with less than ideal governments t. government in saudi
you supported the removal of moammar gadhafi in libya.sis is clearly growing there. senator cruz says you haven't learned your lesson. do have you any regrets for supporting president obama's intervention in libya? >> to begin with, moammar gadhafi and the revolt was not started by the united states. it was started by the libyan people t. reason i argue we need to get involved is he was going to go one way or the other. my argument for them has proven true, that is the longer that civil...
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why did this not actually establish institutions in libya after gadhafi? why did it not actually keep the same institutions and try to reform them and develop them? the same thing in iraq. okay, united states is the most advanced country in the world. it's the biggest empire, the strongest empire in our history. okay. they invaded iraq. why they introduced sectarianism to iraq? you know, you are a multicultural country. you actually sit up a very good example for melting people in a pot there and establishing equality. religion aside. the most important thing, how to build that country, how to make people coexist with each other. we did not apply the same principles to iraq, and that's why we are facing a problem in iraq and in syria and all of the region. sorry. >> thank you, sir. yes. another question, please. >> my question was do, does he have any further comments to make about the role of iran? but to follow up on what he was saying, some say that the middle east is not ready for democracy, we can't import it there. could he comment on that? a very di
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the development is a major step to resolving the conflict which began in 2011 when gadhafi was forced of power. zana hoda reports from rome where more talks will be taking place. >> reporter: italy is where world leaders will meet on -- sunday to give a final push to bring about a unity government in libya. now members of the rival parliaments say it will be signed on december 16th. that follows last week's agreement in tunis, which saw the warring parties agree on the urgent need to work together. the announcement was made by the u.n. special envoy who held last-minute discussions with the two sides. but even he said the way forward won't be easy. >> many problems remain. but this has to be solved by the new government in place. that's what governments are there for. that's why the implementation phase will start with many open problems, and the united nations is already ready to support the new government. >> reporter: libya has been at war since the overthrow of gadhafi. there are armed groups who have rejected previous attempts to disarm. it is not clear if all of them are backing
the development is a major step to resolving the conflict which began in 2011 when gadhafi was forced of power. zana hoda reports from rome where more talks will be taking place. >> reporter: italy is where world leaders will meet on -- sunday to give a final push to bring about a unity government in libya. now members of the rival parliaments say it will be signed on december 16th. that follows last week's agreement in tunis, which saw the warring parties agree on the urgent need to work...
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cruz mentioned must be reck, gadhafi, hussein and said he would be against taking down assad. rubio pointed out gadhafi was responsible and admitted he had taken down the plane over scotland and the bombing of the discos that killed u.s. marines. hezbollah allowed improvised devices that killed american soldiers. >> what was said is a guy like mubarak, 30 years a dictator but pro-american running a roughly okay regime, not a murder factory is in the same league as someone like saddam hussein or assad responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. i think senator paul put his finger on something usefulle. this is a debate the republicans are having now. whoever becomes -- next year when this debate takes place with hillary the republicans are going to offer foreign policy and say what about iraq? republicans have to come up with the idea of how to intervene sensibly in the middle east without bogging us down. >> thank you all. when we come back, a split over surveillance spills onto the debate stage, setting up a showdown between two republican front runners. who had the bett
cruz mentioned must be reck, gadhafi, hussein and said he would be against taking down assad. rubio pointed out gadhafi was responsible and admitted he had taken down the plane over scotland and the bombing of the discos that killed u.s. marines. hezbollah allowed improvised devices that killed american soldiers. >> what was said is a guy like mubarak, 30 years a dictator but pro-american running a roughly okay regime, not a murder factory is in the same league as someone like saddam...
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libya meant gadhafi. meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya meant a bad place where a comical, megalomaniacal dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan capital. >> they fought like hell. >> the rebels are about to force gadhafi's complete departure.
libya meant gadhafi. meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya meant a bad place where a comical, megalomaniacal dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan capital....
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similarly, in libya, gadhafi, terrible dictator, gotten rid of.now isis is gaining ground in libya because of all the destabilization in the region and all of the turmoil. so i think what you need is coalitions, broad coalitions, to work together to create a process by which we remove people or by through democratic change. >> well, but the problem, as secretary clinton pointed out, is that isis and a lot of the people that you want in this coalition, you know, arab boots on the ground rather than u.s. boots on the ground, they're more concerned with assad than they are isis. and if our priority isn't to get rid of assad, they won't join this coalition. isn't that the catch-22 here, sir? >> look, i mean, that's a fair point, and no one denies this is a complicated issue. but here is my point -- what american leadership is about is to put as much pressure as we can and we have the leverage to do that. we have the leverage to bring countries together to demand that they overcome their differences because right now the crisis facing this world is int
similarly, in libya, gadhafi, terrible dictator, gotten rid of.now isis is gaining ground in libya because of all the destabilization in the region and all of the turmoil. so i think what you need is coalitions, broad coalitions, to work together to create a process by which we remove people or by through democratic change. >> well, but the problem, as secretary clinton pointed out, is that isis and a lot of the people that you want in this coalition, you know, arab boots on the ground...
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i mean, i know secretary clinton was gleeful when gadhafi was torn apart. and the world no doubt is a better place without him. but look, we didn't know what was happening next. and we fell into the same trap with assad, saying -- as if it's our job to say, assad must go. we have a role to play in this world. but we need to leave the cold war and that sort of antiquated thinking behind. david: but -- you criticized -- you criticized secretary clinton for what came next. what's your proposal for what comes after assad? mr. o'malley: i believe that we need to focus on destroying isil. that is the clear and present danger. and i believe that we can springboard off of this new u.n. resolution, and we should create, as secretary clinton indicated, and i agree with that, that there should be a political process. but we shouldn't be the ones declaring that assad must go. where did it ever say in the constitution, where is it written that it's the job of the united states of america or its secretary of state to determine when dictators have to go? we have a role to
i mean, i know secretary clinton was gleeful when gadhafi was torn apart. and the world no doubt is a better place without him. but look, we didn't know what was happening next. and we fell into the same trap with assad, saying -- as if it's our job to say, assad must go. we have a role to play in this world. but we need to leave the cold war and that sort of antiquated thinking behind. david: but -- you criticized -- you criticized secretary clinton for what came next. what's your proposal for...
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i mean, i know secretary clinton was gleeful when gadhafi was torn apart. when the world no doubt is a better place without him. but look, we didn't know what was happening next. and we fell into the same trap with assad, saying as if it's our job to say assad must go. we have a role to play in this world. but we need to leave the cold war and that sort of antiquated thinking behind. clinton for what came next. what's your proposal for what comes after assad? >> i believe that we need to focus on destroying isil. danger. and i believe that we can springboard off of this new u.n. resolution and we should create as secretary clinton indicated, and i agree with that, that there should be a political process. but we shouldn't be the ones declaring that assad must go. where did it ever say in the constitution, where is it written it is the job of the secretary of state to determine when dictators have to go? we have a role to play in this world. but it is not the world -- the role of traveling the world looking for new monsters to destroy. >> david. >> secretary
i mean, i know secretary clinton was gleeful when gadhafi was torn apart. when the world no doubt is a better place without him. but look, we didn't know what was happening next. and we fell into the same trap with assad, saying as if it's our job to say assad must go. we have a role to play in this world. but we need to leave the cold war and that sort of antiquated thinking behind. clinton for what came next. what's your proposal for what comes after assad? >> i believe that we need to...
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yes, we could get rid of gadhafi, a terrible dictator, but that created a vacuum for isis. yes, we could get rid of assad tomorrow, but that would create another political vacuum that would benefit isis. is easy, getting rid of dictators is easy, but before you do that you've got to think about what happens the day after. and in my view what we need to do is put together broad coalitions to understand that we're not going to have a political vacuum filled by terrorists, that in fact we are going to move steadily and maybe slowly toward democratic societies. in terms of assad, a terrible dictator, but i think in syria the primary focus now must be destroying isis and working over the years to get rid of assad. that's the secondary issue. >> that is exactly what i just said and what i just described. >> yeah, but secretary clinton -- secretary clinton -- >> because now we have a u.n. enable us to do that. with all due respect, senator, you voted for regime change with respect to libya. you joined the senate in voting to get rid of gadhafi, and you council validation of that w
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since the arab spring and the ded odebt of moammar gadhafi, thousands are taking advantage of the chaos. secretary of state john kerry is chairing a meeting in rome with representatives of united nations and 16 other countries calling for a ceasefire and backing a new unity government. as a al jazeera's zeina khodr reports they have until wednesday to sign deal. >> rome is from where the international community spoke with a united voice, to bring about a government of national accord in libya. it was also in rome where some of libya's rival factions showed their support for the international community's plan. there is still opposition to the plan. u.s. secretary of state john kerry addressed these concerns. >> there are still some inside and outside of libya. for their own selfish purposes who are uninterestin reconciliation, unwilling to compromise and who actually want this process to fail. those responsible for violence and those who obstruct and undermine libya's democratic transition need to be held strongly accountable. >> libya has two governments, the eligible national congress
since the arab spring and the ded odebt of moammar gadhafi, thousands are taking advantage of the chaos. secretary of state john kerry is chairing a meeting in rome with representatives of united nations and 16 other countries calling for a ceasefire and backing a new unity government. as a al jazeera's zeina khodr reports they have until wednesday to sign deal. >> rome is from where the international community spoke with a united voice, to bring about a government of national accord in...
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got involved, bombing gadhafi's tanks and military vehicles as they were going in. he did acknowledge that more should have been done to keep the hand on the wheel, to help a stabilization process take hold in libya. but he said, we did this because if we hadn't done this, there would have been an atrocity. he did acknowledge that more could have been done but said it's not quite as bad as syria. problem is, with every month that's passing, syria and libya are starting to be somewhat comparable. libya has completely collapsed. so the lack of international oversight has become a real problem for both syria and libya. >> with the beautiful plights of the harbor behind him, our veteran chief foreign correspondent richard engel tonight, thank you for that. and we've been talking about the edges of this next and final topic for sometime. we're fortunate to have an expert in it in our midst. sean henry, the former fbi executive assistant director and an expert on cyber crime. sean, you're the perfect man to answer this question which has come up since san bernardino and s
got involved, bombing gadhafi's tanks and military vehicles as they were going in. he did acknowledge that more should have been done to keep the hand on the wheel, to help a stabilization process take hold in libya. but he said, we did this because if we hadn't done this, there would have been an atrocity. he did acknowledge that more could have been done but said it's not quite as bad as syria. problem is, with every month that's passing, syria and libya are starting to be somewhat...
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. >> four years after the death of moammar ga gadhafi plunged the country into chaos. >> it cannot achieve the aspirations of all parties but it best represents what we can potentially achieve and it is the highest common denominator. >> reporter: members of two rival governments and civil society groups reached an agreement on the government this past week. the u.n. special representative for libya encouraged other libyans to come on board for the good of the libyan people. >> schools have to be open, the life has to start again, hospitals have to work again and peace and security should really be established over time. and this is task of the government of national unity. >> reporter: warring factions in the country have led to instability. presence of i.s.i.l. also making libya the hub of human trafficking of migrants seeking to cross to europe. threat to international peace and security. the resolution calls on countries to respond urgently, particularly in dealing with i.s.i.l. but the government has to ask first. the united kingdom which drafted the resolution says it is ready to hel
. >> four years after the death of moammar ga gadhafi plunged the country into chaos. >> it cannot achieve the aspirations of all parties but it best represents what we can potentially achieve and it is the highest common denominator. >> reporter: members of two rival governments and civil society groups reached an agreement on the government this past week. the u.n. special representative for libya encouraged other libyans to come on board for the good of the libyan people....
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the foreign minister who i got to know had arranged for me to interview gadhafi. because i had written about the reagan administration, plan to overtly overthrow him and so i went to libya and they had security people in some god-awful hotel. a couple of days and i thought i'm not doing this and the looted two handlers and security in went down to tripoli and found the university announced people what's going on here? and they said you should have been here friday. cut off aid sent security forces into the main square of the university and erected gallows. 11 gallows to hang the dead, 11 students. for their alleged crime knowing about or participating in the writing of gadhafi's slogans on the wall. and he thought, that's pretty dire and ugly and things turned and if we don't have a press and we aren't allowed to practice the first event we could to come victim of that. >> thank you bob. [applause] you are going to stay and sign some books now? >> yes, of course. thank you. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> it's all about when your life hangs in the balance,
the foreign minister who i got to know had arranged for me to interview gadhafi. because i had written about the reagan administration, plan to overtly overthrow him and so i went to libya and they had security people in some god-awful hotel. a couple of days and i thought i'm not doing this and the looted two handlers and security in went down to tripoli and found the university announced people what's going on here? and they said you should have been here friday. cut off aid sent security...
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when we toppled gadhafi, did it make the world a safer place? think it made the world more chaotic and allowed us to have a failed state in libya. now they're a nest for terrorism. i think we did have a good debate and it's an important debate. i think the first time you're really seeing a real demarcation and a separation within the republican party over what is the appropriate policy. i'm hoping this leaks a little bit into the democrat debate because frankly, hillary clinton is a big supporter of regime change. she and marco rubio are actually very similar. it would be interesting to get her into the mix and for people to ask her, is regime change a good idea. these were good republican questions. we would like to see some of them in the democrat debate. >> do you think marco rubio has the same foreign holcy as hillary clinton? >> almost identical. they both believe in regime change, they both believe in a no-fly zone. crist christie, my goodness, world war iii is around the corner if we get chris christie. we went 70 years in the korld war t
when we toppled gadhafi, did it make the world a safer place? think it made the world more chaotic and allowed us to have a failed state in libya. now they're a nest for terrorism. i think we did have a good debate and it's an important debate. i think the first time you're really seeing a real demarcation and a separation within the republican party over what is the appropriate policy. i'm hoping this leaks a little bit into the democrat debate because frankly, hillary clinton is a big...
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middle east would be more stable and obviously hillary clinton who supported getting rid of saddam and gadhafi is in a different place. >> what do you think about the rhett rinne donald trump is using around muslims saying that that's going to be used -- >> see, that's the problem. the problem is how she said that. >> she made the declaration it's already happening. there has been concern he could be doing this but he walk swood a trap on this, i think. although you'll. donald trump stands by this. i know you'll be shocked on this. but the more important question is you'll hear the answer. what if you found your rhetoric was being used in isis recruitment, would you change it? i'm sure you can predict what he might say on that but i was still a little surprised by his answer. >> wow. it sounds like you have interesting stuff. >> i promise you. i promise you. we have sanders, paul ryan, especially here in washington kind of glad that we're not still here, you know. the town's cleared out on the 20th. who knew. usually you have a standoff. that didn't make conservatives happy. paul ryan did not
middle east would be more stable and obviously hillary clinton who supported getting rid of saddam and gadhafi is in a different place. >> what do you think about the rhett rinne donald trump is using around muslims saying that that's going to be used -- >> see, that's the problem. the problem is how she said that. >> she made the declaration it's already happening. there has been concern he could be doing this but he walk swood a trap on this, i think. although you'll. donald...
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the same with gadhafi, when clinton, rubio, wanted to topple gadhafi, it created chaos. isis now pledges allegiance a third of libya pledges allegiance to isis. there should be a debate whether or not we're better with regime change or without. >> another issue you disagree with competitors on stage has to do with surveillance and the national security state here at home. right now a big discussion how tashfeen malik, applied for fiancee visa, nobody detected things she had written on social media. private messages and she was writing under a pseudonym. how much ability do you think the u.s. government should have to go into the social media accounts of noncitizens? >> you know, it's public record, i don't think it should be hardly any limits to public record. if you want to look at an intern, we look at your twitter account we don't want somebody who is saying outlandish stuff. >> what about the private messages? >> if you want to look at something you don't have access to, not part of public record, you have to get a warrant. a warrant is not proof. all you have to do
the same with gadhafi, when clinton, rubio, wanted to topple gadhafi, it created chaos. isis now pledges allegiance a third of libya pledges allegiance to isis. there should be a debate whether or not we're better with regime change or without. >> another issue you disagree with competitors on stage has to do with surveillance and the national security state here at home. right now a big discussion how tashfeen malik, applied for fiancee visa, nobody detected things she had written on...
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>> well i think the problem is in libya, the task was seen as getting rid of gadhafi.got rid of gadhafi and lo and behold the issues that had given rise to that uprising, tribalism, had very much set in and some of these tribes are allied with extremely radical elements of sunni islam. so, we do have a problem there. and i think it's prudent to start thinking about that problem as we try to address the problem in syria. >> ambassador hill, the defense secretary saying we -- if they want drops in iraq they need to say that. but you suggest there's more to this than just iraq. >> well, there is more to this than just iraq. i mean, first of all, sunni states in the region have to become more engaged on this. i think the secretary spoke of the saudis being diverted, because they have to deal with the situation in yemen. actually i think the problem is more serious. the saudis have not demonstrated the necessary resolve to deal with this movement, isis, which is very much taken off after the kind of radicalism that was originally spawned in saudi arabia. so, as the secretar
>> well i think the problem is in libya, the task was seen as getting rid of gadhafi.got rid of gadhafi and lo and behold the issues that had given rise to that uprising, tribalism, had very much set in and some of these tribes are allied with extremely radical elements of sunni islam. so, we do have a problem there. and i think it's prudent to start thinking about that problem as we try to address the problem in syria. >> ambassador hill, the defense secretary saying we -- if they...
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i think by any standard, the getting rid of gadhafi has proven to be a horrible event, increased theead of the islamic state and africa, north africa, increased access to weapons and to money, etc. it has been a terrible -- it was a terrible decision. we seem not to have learned enough from it because, you know, if i am putin and i'm worried sick -- forget about what happened in ukraine. it is terrible and i'm not defending him, but from his point of view about international terrorism, he is seen the u.s. attack one secular leader, could off the, destroy another secular leader, saddam hussein, the question he was not interested in the spread of international terrorism, bashar is the same like him always a secular state. there's a tremendous amount of freedom for all sorts of minority and sex and people don't understand -- people can only look to him for safety. they certainly can't look to the international islamic state for any sort of -- they went out to take over the country. and so if i am russia, i'm watching the destruction of three or attempted destruction of three secular sta
i think by any standard, the getting rid of gadhafi has proven to be a horrible event, increased theead of the islamic state and africa, north africa, increased access to weapons and to money, etc. it has been a terrible -- it was a terrible decision. we seem not to have learned enough from it because, you know, if i am putin and i'm worried sick -- forget about what happened in ukraine. it is terrible and i'm not defending him, but from his point of view about international terrorism, he is...
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you mentioned, you know, libya, the removal of moammar gadhafi.nders had to say. >> but i think -- and i say this with due respect, that i worry too much that secretary clinton is too much into regime change and a little built too aggressive without knowing what the unintended consequences might be. yes, we could get rid of saddam hussein, but that destabilized the entire region. yes, we could get rid of cagad i gadhafi, a terrible dictator, but that created a vacuum for isis. yes, we could get rid of assad tomorrow, but would create another political vacuum that would benefit isis. so i think, yeah, regime change is easy. getting rild d of dictators is easy. but before you do that, you have to think about what happens the day after. >> all right. general, what do voters need to hear from candidates as it per tapes to that? because already we see there's some history whether it be iraq or whether it be, you know, yemen or even libya, but then moving forward, how are voters to digest this information? what's the information theyed need to hear from
you mentioned, you know, libya, the removal of moammar gadhafi.nders had to say. >> but i think -- and i say this with due respect, that i worry too much that secretary clinton is too much into regime change and a little built too aggressive without knowing what the unintended consequences might be. yes, we could get rid of saddam hussein, but that destabilized the entire region. yes, we could get rid of cagad i gadhafi, a terrible dictator, but that created a vacuum for isis. yes, we...
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the fall of saddam, gadhafi, mubarak.as president, where would you engage for regime change and how do you strike a balance between human rights and stability in the region? >> first of all, i think it has to be in our national security interest. it can't be based simply on the brutality of the regime. it has to be based on is this the best interest for our country first and foremost and our allies. and then we need to have a clear strategy. i think the lessons learned over the last 20 years is if you don't have a clear strategy of how to get in and win with compelling force and how to get out, you got problems. so the lessons i think are libya being a good example of this. if you're serious about regime change and it's in our national security interest, you better have a policy that's not just, all right, we got rid of gadhafi and then just leaf. because then that result now is libya now has become a greater threat to the region. and perhaps ultimately over the long hall a threat to our own country. so there has to be a
the fall of saddam, gadhafi, mubarak.as president, where would you engage for regime change and how do you strike a balance between human rights and stability in the region? >> first of all, i think it has to be in our national security interest. it can't be based simply on the brutality of the regime. it has to be based on is this the best interest for our country first and foremost and our allies. and then we need to have a clear strategy. i think the lessons learned over the last 20...
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. -- of mo mark gadhafi -- of muammar gaddafi. security has fallen to dangerous levels. the than one month after deadly paris attacks, the hunt goes on for the only surviving attacker. belgian's justice minister has revealed that police may have missed an opportunity to arrest him two days after the attack. our correspondent has more. >> europe's most wanted man slipping through the fingers of belgian police. authorities say they waited to search a house in brussels on the 15th of november, where terror suspect salah abdeslam was thought to be hiding. two days after the attacks in paris, belgian police received credible information that he was staying in this house in his home district. were on standby, but please had to wait until the next morning to storm the house. belgium's justice minister said night raids were illegal in his country. >> we were told they had reason to believe that salah abdeslam was in the house, but a ban on police raids carried out between 9:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. did not help us to find him at that time. bans all police carrying out searches betw
. -- of mo mark gadhafi -- of muammar gaddafi. security has fallen to dangerous levels. the than one month after deadly paris attacks, the hunt goes on for the only surviving attacker. belgian's justice minister has revealed that police may have missed an opportunity to arrest him two days after the attack. our correspondent has more. >> europe's most wanted man slipping through the fingers of belgian police. authorities say they waited to search a house in brussels on the 15th of...
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rubio pointed out that gadhafi was responsible and admitted he took down that plane over scotland and the bombing that killed u.s. marines. he made a distinction there. assad was supporting hezbollah and allowed improvised electronic devices to be shipped into iraq which killed american soldiers. >> what's astounding by what cruz said is that mubarak running a roughly okay regime and it wasn't a murder factory is in the same league as someone like saddam hussein or assad responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. i think senator paul put his finger on something that's useful. a debate that is good that republicans are having now. whoever becomes the candidate next year when the debate takes place with hillary, the republicans are going to offer foreign policy and say what about iraq and what about iraq? republicans have to come up with an idea how to intervene in the middle east without bogging us now. >> when we come back, a split over surveillance spills onto the debate stage setting up a showdown between two republican front runners. who had the better argument when it comes
rubio pointed out that gadhafi was responsible and admitted he took down that plane over scotland and the bombing that killed u.s. marines. he made a distinction there. assad was supporting hezbollah and allowed improvised electronic devices to be shipped into iraq which killed american soldiers. >> what's astounding by what cruz said is that mubarak running a roughly okay regime and it wasn't a murder factory is in the same league as someone like saddam hussein or assad responsible for...
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. >> libya collapses into civil war after a nato-backed are volt overthrew gadhafi five years ago. >>chinese government announcing objections over the u.s.'s plan to sell arms to taiwan. it comes as tensions are rising over island building in this the south china sea. a deter for the future of transportation. california out with new rules over those self driving cars. >>> and a drug company ceo who became infamous for jacking up prices is now in fbi custody. >>> you are looks live right now at the national counter terrorism center. we're being told by the white house that the president just wrapped up his meeting with his national security team. mike viqueira is at the white house. mike, are we expecting anything different from the president? this will be his third time in recent weeks that heed a addressed the nation concerning what the white house is doing. do we expect anything new? >> reporter: i don't think so, del. this is president obama as we head into the holiday season, trying to do what he has done over the course of several public appearances over the course of the last tw
. >> libya collapses into civil war after a nato-backed are volt overthrew gadhafi five years ago. >>chinese government announcing objections over the u.s.'s plan to sell arms to taiwan. it comes as tensions are rising over island building in this the south china sea. a deter for the future of transportation. california out with new rules over those self driving cars. >>> and a drug company ceo who became infamous for jacking up prices is now in fbi custody. >>>...
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libya plunged into turmoil when government of moammar al gadhafi fell during the pro-democracy asian spring movement in 20011. chaos has allowed the islamic-based group to gain ground in the country. counterpart to promote exchanges and information-sharing. >> translator: we want to maintain and develop our relations between the two maritime organizations through various opportunities. >> maritime officials from both countries met earlier this month for talks on further cooperation. both organizations set up a liaison channel last january. chinese vessels frequently enter japanese waters around the senkaku island flts the east china sea. japan controls the islands, china and taiwan claim them. the japanese government maintains the islands are be a inherent part of japan's territory in terms of history and international law. it says there is no issue of sovereignty to be resolved over them. the japan coast guard says it wants to take time to find opportunities for mutual visits by japanese and chinese maritime officials. >>> russia's president says his country's military is prepared t
libya plunged into turmoil when government of moammar al gadhafi fell during the pro-democracy asian spring movement in 20011. chaos has allowed the islamic-based group to gain ground in the country. counterpart to promote exchanges and information-sharing. >> translator: we want to maintain and develop our relations between the two maritime organizations through various opportunities. >> maritime officials from both countries met earlier this month for talks on further cooperation....
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those who now argue in retrospect we should have left gadhafi in there, seem to forget that he had already lost control of his country, and we could have, instead of what we have in libya now, we could have had another syria in libya now. the problem with libya was the fact that there was a failure on the part of the entire international community and i think the united states has some accountability for not moving swiftly enough and underestimating the need to rebuild government there quickly. and as a consequence you now have a very bad situation. and as far as syria goes, i think it is entirely right and proper for the united states of america to speak out on behalf of its values, and when you have an authoritarian leader that is killing hundreds of thousands of his own people, the notion that we would just stand by and say nothing is contrary to who we are, and that does not serve our interests, because at that point us being in collusion with that kind of governance, would make us even more of a target for terrorist activity -- >> reporter: [ inaudible ]? >> but -- but the reason that
those who now argue in retrospect we should have left gadhafi in there, seem to forget that he had already lost control of his country, and we could have, instead of what we have in libya now, we could have had another syria in libya now. the problem with libya was the fact that there was a failure on the part of the entire international community and i think the united states has some accountability for not moving swiftly enough and underestimating the need to rebuild government there quickly....
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among those targeted were libya's muammar gadhafi . . . egypt's hosni mubarak . . . and syria's bashir al-asad. each was a brutal leader. but they generally ran secular governments. islamic extremism was kept under control. israeli officials didn't like syria's leader . . . or his father . . . the previous president . . . hafez al-asad. but they knew what they had. and they were experiencing a neighboring enemy. what worried israelis was who would follll the asads. now we know. there e e seseral reports the u-s was secretly training anan arming isis to oust asad. additional reports suggest u-s officials were in benghazi to ship libyan arms to syrian fighters.behind the headlines reported exclusively on one of the reasons for our presence in benghazi. we were reportedly there to recover thousands of shoulder-fired . . . surface-to-air-missiles . . . looted from libyan armories.now the pentagon i-g is investigating whistleblower claims by 50 intelligence analts that intel reports were a aered. ththanalysts allege their reports were changed to support the administration
among those targeted were libya's muammar gadhafi . . . egypt's hosni mubarak . . . and syria's bashir al-asad. each was a brutal leader. but they generally ran secular governments. islamic extremism was kept under control. israeli officials didn't like syria's leader . . . or his father . . . the previous president . . . hafez al-asad. but they knew what they had. and they were experiencing a neighboring enemy. what worried israelis was who would follll the asads. now we know. there e e...