indicted a third suspect in garland, texas, in that shooting incident. the attack happening last month outside of a prophet mohammed cartoon drawing con nest that dallas suburb. cnn's ed lavandera is following the story live. who is the third suspect and what is the nexus to the two who were shot dead before they could carry out their attack? >> ashleigh, even though this attack took place here in the dallas suburb of garland, texas, all of this stems back to the relationships that these two men, the two men that were shot and killed on that day and their connections back to arizona. the federal grand jury indicted a man by the name of abdul malik abdul kareem, and in this indictment which is just a few pages long, federal investigators detail his relationship with the two men, elton simpson nadir soofi who were gunned down before they could get into the building where that cartoon contest was being held in garland. but investigators say that karim was instrumental until helping them, those two men, obtain the weapons in the indictment it

first, that they drove 1,000 miles to garland thank god they picked garland and not a softer target. clearly, my events which i've had security at for the past ten years because i've studied the

of garland from what could have been a devastating situation.ould like to commend the police officer and all members of local law enforcement who stood in the face of terrorism and protected countless, innocent lives. i remain committed to working with each of my colleagues in the house local leaders and local law enforcement to uphold our duty as elected officials to protect the people who we serve. it is my sincere hope that today's hearing that we can learn positive lessons so that other cities and communities can be as prepared as garland, texas, if an event were to happen in their local community. mr. chairman, thank you very much, i yield back my time. >> i thank the gentleman from texas. other members saying that opening statements may be submitted for the record. pleased to have a distinguished panel of witnesses before us today on this important topic. but first, john mulligan joined the national counterterrorism center in march 2015, as deputy director. previously he served as associate deputy director for the counterterrorism, the nat

it seems like he mentioned the inspiration from what happened in garland, for arrests.

inspired isis attacks in ottawa copenhagen in garland, texas. they don't kill a lot of people but they certainly are relatively frequent. >> to that point, buck yesterday this warning came out from homeland security from fbi, saying extremists could launch an attack here in the united states on the fourth of july. do you agree with peter that if indeed we do see something like that they mentioned by the way there are no active plots that are known, this is just a warning, but we are looking at potentials for more one-off situations with less casualties such as what we saw attempted in garland, texas, rather than these big attacks like what we saw in tunisia? >> yes. historically that's been the case. it's much more likely just based on statistics that if there is an attack here in the homeland of course 9/11 and others notwithstanding, they tend to be lower level casualty attacks, not always the case. we tend to see individuals who self-radicalize and don't have the kind of training that was on display with this person who had some tactics and t

garland heightened people's awareness. we know that isis is doing the recruiting and we know that more are getting over the interknelt. again, we have to wait for the details to come out. they have been at a high alert for a long time. especially for the last two years. i don't think that it's necessarily causing them to focus. they have focused and bill evans are very very focused commission ers. >> do you have any idea how many people are under a 24/7 hour surveillance and the joint

on march 3 -- may 3, the courageous garland police officers swiftly acted to protect people from garland from what could've been a devastating situation. i would like to commend the police officers and all members of law enforcement who stood in the face of terrorism and protected countless innocent lives. i remain committed to working with each of my colleagues in the house local leaders, and local law enforcement. it is our duty to protect the people who we serve. this morning i will speak briefly about the recent attacks in garland, texas and the role of social media in that event and then transition to broader remarks on isil's use of social media before concluding efforts we and partners across the and federal government are pursuing to counter that avenue of threat. as has been described, last month, two u.s. citizens attacked an art exhibit and cartoon contest in garland texas. the attackers arrived on the day of the event, exited their car and opened fire with semi-automatic semi-automatic rifles injuring a guard on the or scene. they were aware of the potential violence and resp

on may 3rd, 2015 a garland police officer swiftly acted to protect the people of garland from what could have been a devastating event. i would like to thank the officers who saved countless lives. i remain committed to uphold our duty as elected officials to protect the people who we serve. it is my sincere home in today's hearing we can learn positive lessons so that other cities and communities can be as prepared as garland texas if an event were to happen in their committee. thank you. i yield back my time. >> open statements may be submitted to for the record. please today have a panel of witnesses before us today on this topic. the first is john mulligan joining the national counterterrorism as deputy director and was associate director for the terrorism at the national security agencies. francis taylor is next. secretary for intelligence and analysis at the department of homeland security since april 2014 and before that was assistant sept of state for diplomatic security and office of foreign missions. and we have michael steinbach finally who was fdi director and is the assistan

in garland one month ago. he urge others to do the same the mohammed cartoon contest that islamists have singled out as a target. the final tweet minutes before the attack, he told his followers to follow a 20-year-old british foreign fighter embedded with isis and syria and one of the top recruiters who has been linked to the sitcom twitter hack in january of this year. he was quick to praise the attack and issued a warning that same night saying the knives have been sharpened and soon will come to your streets with death and slaughter. this attack simplifies a new era in which terrorism has gone vital. to attack an event. a radicalized follower heated that call and he took steps make sure his act of violence would spread and motivate more. it has turned homegrown extremists into sleeper operatives and attackers. the proliferation of jihadists propaganda online has established a new front in our battle against islamic extremists. we are no longer hunting terrorists living in case who only to mutate through ca

garland. >> it won't end with me.sioner saying the violence driven by the pharmacies robbed. >> criminals are selling the stolen drugs. i'm submitting a request to ask for more federal agents to assist us in the battle. >> we have the power to make our country new again. >> former texas governor rick perry ready to toss his stetson into the race. >> josh has done some very bad things. >> we're victims. they can't do this to us. he's very sorry. >>> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. it is 6:00 in the east. we have new information for out the plot in boston. federal authorities now say the terror suspect was shot dead by cops when he came at them with a knife. was planning on beheading. he >> authorities say they have the suspect and the two of his associates under 24-hour surveillance. federal officials say their disturbing plot included want to behead the one who organized the cartoon contest in garland, texas. he's begin with alexander fields. she's life in boston. a lot of info

in garland texas two men turned up wearing armor and carrying assault weapons. they shot at people and the police brought them down. they discussed not only garland but rein accident similar to it in the united states and around the world and then broadened the discussion how to how these things quickly go viral. how is it that terrorism these days is promoted on the web planned on the web and celebrated on the web. they concentrate is, and i think most people really don't know a lot about it. here's mike chairman of the homeland security committee and he's talking about the so-called dark web. that bit that most of us can't see. >> do we have any idea how many communication is taking place in dark space? >> no, we don't. we're past going dark. the ability to know what they're saying in encrypted communication situations is struggling. >> that is michael steinback. he's a man who spends his entire life immersed in this sort of thing. in the course of the hearing he said that the fbi is concentrating on the dark space because they realize how important is it. >>

the gunman killed in garland, texas, last month and the man shot by law enforcement in boston tuesday all believe to have been radicalized by isis all highlighting the threat. >> what they're telling them is here's some easily readily available information online that you can exploit. in other words, they believe that they can provide them everything that they will need to undertake some kind of lone actor attack. >> reporter: isis' tremendous social media prowess gives the group an unprecedented digital presence. 2,000 core isis supporters pushing the messages out, 50,000 retweeting the message and more than 200,000 receiving the message and reading it. >> how many followers are in the united states in your estimate? >> there's hundreds, maybe thousands. it's a challenge to get a full understanding of just how many of those passive followers are taking action. >> the real challenge for law

that's what happened in garland.ey don't want that to happen again. >> you worked at the fbi, you agree? >> absolutely. this is a case where they would be looking at the metadata phone records. who have these guys been in contact by telephone, texts, phone calls, e-mails going back two or three years. what are the greater number of people involved in this conspiracy. that's why they're collecting the data so they can go back and expand the investigation. >> that's going to be more complicated now. >> it may become out and out impossible with two or three,000 phone companies in this country, they're not going to be able to issue the subpoenas or requests on weekend. all of the rhetoric about the program, it is not going to be the same if the legislation goes through that's proposed now. >> it's going to go through. the president of the united states tweeted he's anxious to sign it into law in the next few days. it's a done deal. >> don't call it an intelligence failure when the authorities can't go back aeng identify

the gunman killed in garland, texas, last month, the man shot by law enforcement in boston on tuesday, all believed to have been radicalized by isis all highlighting this threat. and isis' tremendous social media prowess gives them unprecedented digital force multiplier. 2,000 core isis supporters pushing the message out. 50,000 people retweeting that message and more than 200,000 receiving and reading that message. the numbers in the u.s. also concerning. the fbi says hundreds perhaps thousands. the challenge for law enforcement is distinguishing between lukewarm supporters and potential terrorists. what you heard from the fbi today is they're taking no chances. and this case in boston is an example of that. once they have an intercepted phone call saying they were ready to go the victim of the shooting saying he couldn't wait, that's when they moved in. that's the kind of thing they're doing more. in texas, that was a case where he was on their radar screen. they didn't act and that was potentially a tragedy. >> i keep hearing from top u.s. officials how baffled they are

the one thing that is being ignored that came from garland, texas, is that isis is here. islamic terrorism is here. now will the media realize what's at stake and their heads are next or will they continue to target me. >> geller will be back on cnn later this morning during the 8:00 hour of "new day." >>> new developments in the battle of isis against iraq. the top official says the u.s.-coalition has killed more than 10,000 isis fighters in the last nine months. deputy secretary of state tony blincon admits the isis fighters do not fear death. while that is going on the effects are felt downstream after isis shut off a major dam in ramadi. the iraqi officials say they are worried that a dry river bed and humanitarian crisis could give isis an advantage against government forces. our senior correspondent ben wedeman joins us with the latest. good morning, ben. >> reporter: good morning, john. the worry of iraqi officials regarding the dam in ramadi is they will cut off the flow of the euphrates river. that is the source of water for many iraqis downstream. so this is jus

prophet muhammad cartoon drawing contest in garland, texas. they wanted to go there and behead her as part of the plot. according to the authorities, rahim changed his mind on tuesday morning and called his friend david wright and said he did not want to wait to go to new york. he wanted to do something in boston and kill police officers. it is unclear exactly how he planned to attack. according to the documents, he said he wanted to target and go after the boys in blue. he said i'm going to be on vacation here in massachusetts. i'm just going to go after those boys in blue. according to the court documents. again, he was killed after he was approached in a parking lot by police officials and he allegedly had a military-style knife on him. officials say he lunged at him and they opened fire. we know the other suspect appeared in court and facing conspiracy charges for attempting to destroy rahim's

this led to the action taken by garland police that thwarted the at

first, that they drove 1,000 miles to garland thank god they picked garland and not a softer target. clearly, my events which i've had security at for the past ten years because i've studied the gee jihadic dock trinhtrineneden and understand. they upped surveillance on high-profile suspects perhaps even boston. >> pamela what -- >> i want to thank the boston police department. they did a superb superb job. >> what did they tell you exactly when it came to how much you were a target? >> i had heard from cnn initially, and then upon their request, multiple agencies we had a meeting, but i'm clearly not at liberty to discuss what went -- what was said. >> fair enough. pamela are you afraid for your life? >> of course there's an element of fear. you know i would be silly to say that there isn't -- it's not fearful, but to me it is -- it's scarier, jake to do nothing. because complying with the sharia leads to more demands for sharia compliance and while it is very scary that an innocuous and clever cartoon would cause or warrant me to get my head chopped off, this is the state of freedo

investigators say he's a friend who helped two men who attacked the civic center in garland last month at the cartoon drawing contest that was held there. if you might remember two suspects were shot and killed by authorities there that were protecting the civic center. well now federal investigators accuse this man, kareem -- three different charges he's been indicted on. charges of conspiracy and also providing the weaponry that was used in that attack last month in garland, texas. the indictment states that kareem went out with these two men into the desert area in arizona and practiced shooting the weapons that were used in that attack and so this was the latest development in the fallout from that high profile shooting happening in texas last month. >> ed lavandera, thanks so much and i apologize for the lousy connection there with ed's cell phone, but in case you didn't catch it federal grand jury has indicted abdul malik abdul kareem on three counts for his alleged involvement in last month's attack outside that prophet muhammad cartoon contest in garland, texas. he also alleged

the one thing that's being ignored that came out of garland, texas, is that isis is here. islamic terrorism is here. now, will the media realize what's at stake and that their heads are next? or will they continue to target me because they hate my message of freedom? that's the question. >> so pamela do you have extra security at this time? obviously the prophet muhammad cartoon contest in texas, obviously people died. there was a gun fight. do you have extra security. >> do you think they'll target you again? >> a couple of corrections. a couple of people didn't die. the jihadists who came to slaughter people were taken out as they shot at our police. that's the first thing. the second thing it was an art exhibit depicting mohammed through the past 1400 years where he's been rendered in various pieces of artwork. it didn't lead to slaughter. it's obviously being used now, modern jihadism is using these blast fa my laws and this violent intimidation to impose the sharia. yes, of course, the answer to your question is since garland, texas, i've had an army of security. this

this discussion today was really based on what happened in garland.ber there was a prophet muhammad cartoon competition held two gunmen turned up wearing body armor and shot at a security guard, and they were shot quickly by police who happened to be on the scene. so that was the starting point for this homeland security discussion today. but it turned to much broader themes. how is it that terrorism is recruited online these days? how is it that terrorist acts are planned online and then very often celebrated online once they have actually happened. and the discussion turned to a part of the internet which is a mystery, i think, quite frankly to most of us. here is the republican chairman of the homeland security committee. he is from texas and he is talking about the dark web, that bit of the internet that most of us can't see. >> do we have any idea how many communications are taking place in the dark space? >> no we don't. and that's the problem. we're past going dark in certain instances we are dark. the ability to know what they are saying in th

. >> reporter: garland texas, may 4th. two gunmen in body armour opened fire outside a competition to draw the prophet muhammad. and are shot dead by place on the scene. boston tuesday, a man shot dead by officers. he was under surveillance for a week expecting to plot to behead one individual and randomly kill police officers prays for law enforce. in both cases on capitol hill on wednesday. >> that's the way it works. unfortunately you have to get it right every time. they just have to get it right once. >> we are monitoring closely for any type much action or overstep mobilization factors. and we see those. we are not taking chance. >> reporter: the fbi telling the committee that what links garland to boston is the attack. >> this is an attack in which terrorism has gone viral. >> specials that bit of internet most don't see, the dark space. >> do we have any idea how many communications are taking place in the dark space? >> no we don't. that's the problem. we are past going dark in certain instances. we are dark. the

. >>> that was the starting point as was garland texas. >>> may the 4th, it was in garland, that two men turned especially outside a center that was holding a event be where it was a competition to draw the the prophet mohammed and they had assault weapons and they shot the security guard outside and then the police, shot both of those men. so garland and boston were the starting point. but it quickly went beyond that. to discuss how it is possible, these daystion that terrorists are recruited on line and i attacks are planned online and when they are successful, celebrated on line. and in particular, one area of the web which most of us don't know,called the dark web or dark space, and the republican, from texas, chairman, and he raised this issue, of this area that most of us have never seen. >>> do we have any idea, how many communications were taken place in the dark space? >>> no, we don't will and that's the problem. we are dark. the ability to know what they're saying, in these communications, situations, is struggling. >>> now that is michael steinbach and, he's the assistant

the one thing that is being ignored that came out of garland is that isis is here. islamic terrorism is here. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams has details on the investigation. >> reporter: investigators were back at the scene where a boston police officer and an fbi agent shot the man authorities say was plotting to kill police, 26-year-old usaamah rahim of boston, as the fbi revealed new details about the investigation. nbc news learned three weeks ago based on rahim's social media postings and messages the fbi put him under 24-hour-a-day surveillance. agents disclosed that were watching as he went online may 25th and 27th ordering three knives with long blades on amazon. they say rahim and two others met on sunday to talk about rahim's plan to behead a victim in another state, someone not named in court documents. the fbi says rahim changed his plan saying in a wiretapped phone call he wanted to attack police tuesday or wednesday adding i'm just going to go after them, those boys in blue because it's the easiest target. alarmed by the call the fbi decide

an arizona man being called quote, off the chart dangerous, arrested in relation to that attack in garland, texas. and we now know authorities say he wanted to attack during the super bowl. in new york city the college student in queens researching how to make a pressure cooker bomb. tonight we learn of a new arrest in staten island new york. the suspect lunging at officers with a butcher's knife. this evening the fbi warning, the crackdown is far from over. abc's senior justice correspondent in washington leading us off. >> reporter: fbi agents were tracking that latest suspect, that staten island man today, when things turned violent. >> reporter: the fbi says he tried to plunge this butcher's blade into an fbi agent. according to the fbi he's a fervent supporter of isis and was part of a broader plot to carry out attacks. prosecutors claim he was working with this man, a college student from queens who they say had been conducting surveillance on the george washington bridge. the fbi says muther omar suleh was studying how to build a pressure cooker bomb. >> the threat is the most signi

let's talk about garland.police department said to her, if you do this, you are going to provoke lone wolf attacks. and she decided to do it anyway. now she wants to take her loon show on the road. that's wrong. heather: we don't want to call names. why freedom. speech for some groups and not for others. >> you have should not be provokable by a cartoon. it can't be a standard that people in a free country adhere to. if you say sure, whatever someone is likely to get killed over we are going to say we are not allowed to say those things anymore. the person saying those things is the problem not the murderer. when people are offended they will go after you and they will shut up. >> like we saw in the clip there. she is a hate group. and that has no place in our country. >> offensive speech has a place in our country. >> that's not what america is about. >> now you are talking over each other. thank you for joining us. lots of people have different opinion on this. everyone is talking about it. we'll hear more -

you had the attacks in garland, texas. attacks in new york the arrests higher in new york this is not just something that happened by coincidence. >> pierre, a study by the new american foundation showed that since 9/11, nearly as twice have been killed by -- they also add a study from duke university a study, that asked sheriff and police departments nationwide to rank the three biggest threats from violent extremists. 74% listed anti-government violence. 39% al qaeda-inspired violence. >> i think they're very concerned about the isis threat, because of the violent, horrific nature of what could happen in the united states that would get expoen shl national coverage, think of a lone wolf attacking a mall and you could have a situation similar to what you saw in france a few months ago. >> i totally disregard what the "the new york times" said, i can't believe any real law enforcement looking at the potential thre the boston marathon bombing, four killed, almost 300 people injured. the fact that eric holder, kept him awake

and in the case of garland texas, was the freedom of speech.at was being attacked. with that in minds it seems to be as some have said and understanding what happened with "charlie hebdo" in paris which i was there a few weeks ago in paris, it seems to be a potential target. first question how far in advance of the event did our ic or counter terrorism know this event was happening? and how do we find that out? was there coordination with them or did this come from local law enforcement? >> we knew about it several weeks in advance. and more specifically i will say in this event the event in phoenix last friday, we do layout the threat and potential and we of course don't try to talk them out of it and if you do x, this may happen. we knew several weeks in advance. >> you know that these are coming and how much interface do you have with local law enforcement going into this? >> it's multifacetted, we put out a joint intelligence bulletin which lays out -- in garland, a week in advance laid out the events and threat to the event. in this case a

that garland police officer on the jttf should have taken it to his chief. >> is there any reason to think that these guys were activated, ordered to do this? or was it just self-inspired? >> it's a matter of semantics. what they were trying to do was activate through calls to arms over the internet. they identified an art cartoon contest of muhammad. so they had followers on twitter, and those following who they're actively communicating with, and this is a new age of terrorism now where they will just send out a directive and hope that out of those 1,000 people, on their twitter accounts, they're going to get a couple that will say, you know what? i'll sign up for that. >> we're going to go, we're about halfway through. we're going to go next to damion of the "journal" and after that paul bedard aaron kelly anna, sean and daniel. damien. >> can you tell us a little bit about your visit to iraq. you said you met with the prime minister. was he acknowledging how bad the situation there was? obviously they're very defensive about us potentially giving assistance to the kurds, to sunni

. >> garland texas may 4th. two men in. >> suspected of plotting to behead at least one individual and randomly kill police officers. praise for law enforcement in both cases on capitol hill wednesday. >> unfortunate you have to get it right every time and they have to get it right just once. >> we are monitoring for any type of overt steps any mobilization factors and when we see those we're not taking the chance. >> the fbi telling the homeland security committee what links garland to boston is the internet. >> a new era in which terrorism has gone viral. >> especially that part of the internet most people don't see the so-called dark space. >> do we have any idea how many communications are taking place in the dark space? >> no we don't. we are past going dark in certain circumstances we are dark. the ability to know what they're saying is trouble being. >> the trouble is the dark space is so encrypted even internet service providers don't have software to make sense of it. the white house is on notice, that'

it seems like he mentioned the inspiration from what happened in garland, for arrests. what's happening? >> i was just at a conference of people trying to figure out the same thing. why are so many of their young people being attracted to isis. and as near as they could figure out, it's that isis understands not only american and western culture better than a lot of these scholars and muslim leaders do. but that they also know how to tap into the anger against it. one scholar said a lot of imams in this country and the united states aren't familiar with that kim kardashian kanye west culture. they don't know to advice their young people how to square traditional principles with that culture and how to advise them to fit in. isis is telling them a very simp l message. that culture insults your beliefs, attack. >> why is isis so familiar with western culture then? where did that come from? >> a lot of people within the ranks of isis are foreign fighters who have come from other parts of europe and some from the united states. and that helps feed into this knowledge of oka

. >> this she shares a birthday with judy garland. >> nice. >> born on this date in 1922. sue, i was shocked to find out that judy garlands was just 47 years old when she passed away in 1969. i'm 47. she had such a hard life. we all love her of course as dorothy i in the wizard wizard of oz. what a great talent she was. >> well, thanks. that was hot chocolate by the way, ♪ ♪ i believe in miracles ♪ ♪ >> all right so we've got the cold front that moved off shore. thanks to the cold front and high pressure on shore little bit of comfortable morning today. enjoy it while it is here. once high pressure moves off shore, especially tonight tomorrow it will start getting stickier around here. and things will start getting hotter and the warming trend will continue. so for ultimate doppler we have nothing to show you right now, but we will be watching, first of all there is weak cold front which might touch off thunderstorm or two tomorrow. and then this moisture here, down in the southwest those are the remnants of blanca the pacific hurricane that will be moving our way probably

the issue they came across as they saw in the attack in garland, texas.d it's very difficult for them to determine when one of these guys decides they want to go from just talking about this stuff on social media or thinking about it and then going operational, and so that's the issue. they have multiple of these people under surveillance. some of them under 24-hour surveillance and the issue is they don't know the ones that they're perhaps not keeping enough close eye on whether those are the ones that are going to activate. so that's why they're acting law enforcement around the country to help keep an eye out for these types of lone wolf attacks that could take place anywhere really. >> absolutely. evan perez, thank you very much for coming on sharing your perspective on this. next hour of cnn will be talking with congressman mike mccaul about these warnings were just talking about. >>> you may remember the story of drew peterson. remember him? he was found guilty in 2012 of murdering his third wife kathleen savio, after his fourth wife stacy went miss

the one thing that came out of garland is that isis is here. >> reporter: rahim was shot and killed tuesdayboston during a confrontation with police. the fbi says he had at least two accomplices including david wright, who has been arrested and charged with conspiracy. in a recorded call with wright, rahim said that he was going to go after the boys in blue, allegedly calling them the easiest targets. police are seeking a third man in connection with the plot but have not released his name. marlie hall, cbs news. >> police are still investigating whether the shooting is justifiable. investigators say surveillance video of the incident proved the officers were acting in self-defense. but they have not released that video yet. >>> right now in long beach something on the sand is making a walk by the waves a bad idea. reporter jeff nguyen shows us what is at stake. >> reporter: this person and his family decided to have a picnic on the sands of long beach despite a four-mile closure of shoreline and reports of a sticky black substance mysteriously washing ashore. >> i have been here my whole l

hard to pick who they are. >> in garland, texas, they didn't know he was there. in boston, they apparently did, allegedly. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. jim sciutto, thank you so much. >>> any minute we're expecting baltimore police commissioner anthony batts to come out and address the crime that's been going on in baltimore. i want to bring in cnn's miguel marquez. what are we expecting commissioner batts to say? >> 43 homicides in may, the most in 40 years. and there were 300,000 more people living in baltimore back then. so may was the worst month ever. this year, 119 dead across the city, up 40%. but you really see a break in the numbers from the time -- around the time of the riots and the freddie gray situation. since then, things have gotten very bad. the fraternal order of police the police union there saying that police are not holding back or not slowing down but they are questioning themselves and restraining themselves in their work. the mayor himself saying -- talking to police officers there, that they are concerned about getting it rig

garland heightened people's awareness. we know that isis is doing the recruiting and we know that more are getting over the interknelt. again, we have to wait for the details to come out. they have been at a high alert for a long time. especially for the last two years. i don't think that it's necessarily causing them to focus. they have focused and bill evans are very very focused commission ers. >> do you have any idea how many people are under a 24/7 hour surveillance and the joint terrorism task force? that's a big deal. it uses a lot of manpower to undertake that 24/7 surveillance? >> yeah i could give you a number. yeah 24/7 takes a lot of bodies to carry out that surveillance. i do know throughout the country there are -- the fbi and jttf joint terrorism task tors are monitoring people that are with isis and it's done in ways. it's really an extra dimension to a threat that we face. >> one final question and totally unrelated and it maybe partially related. when are you going announce that you're running for the pre

this pair was stolen from the judy garland museum in grand rapids a decade ago. local rumor says they were dropped in the mine pit. maybe they got scared who knows? the search now has come up empty. another pair of the slippers are held by the smithsonian. alison: wow! jonathan: why would you steal the slippers and dump them in there. alison: i know. we have so see if they find them there. so interesting. coming up next at "abc7 news at 5:00" -- simple steps to make sure snakes don't ruin your weekend. horace: i'm horace holmes a 96-year-old woman loses her phone service because of a fight over this rotted out tree in her neighbor's yard. what "7 on your side" did to h jonathan: tonight "7 on your side" steps in to try to help a woman in district get her phone system restored. the storm brought down the lines to her house and she couldn't make a call even if she has to. "7 on your side" troubleshooter horace holmes explains why. horace: jonathan, this is a tree right here. and right here is the telephone cable that came down on one of the branches came down to cu

it was the activist behind the cartoon contest in garland texas. pam geller authorities say was the target. martha: according to officials. the knife-wielding suspect had been working on this for weeks to change the plan. he said i'll be on vacation right here in massachusetts. bill: the managing editor of the "boston herald" has been investigating this from the beginning. >> the police commissioner said one of the names he was going off was geller and was new york. bill: she was the one who organized the event in garland texas. >> it's code for the plot to behead people, but that changed. bill: there is a recording on camera on video of the actual shooting but it has not been released to the public. when will we see it? >> authorities say they need it for the case. we are also being told there is more on the case. but yesterday they showed this chilling video to community leaders, religious leaders to show he was not shot in the back, he was shot as he was coming at police. bill howpolice. bill: how did they describe the shooting? >> some say it w

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. >> reporter: the terror attack last month in garland, texas, drew greater attention to the threat from isis in america. the obama administration says elton simpson and nadir sufi acted on their own but after that, an isis member said more attacks are coming with 71 trained soldiers in 15 states. >> this event highlights the growing threat our nation faces from a new generation of terrorists often operating from afar who use social media. >> reporter: lawmakers believe there are thousands of people already in the united states following isis propaganda online who could potentially attack america if called on. >> we know that the threat from foreign and domestic terrorist groups is not going away overnight. >> reporter: on tuesday, law enforcement shot and killed a man under surveillance by terrorism investigators. officials say he posted isis propaganda online and he is fore example of individuals radicalized by social media. craig boswell, cbs news, capitol hill. >> usaama rahim was killed after police said he lunged with a knife at members of the joint terrorism task force who approac

he's 43 years old, and investigators say he helped to plan the garland attack by the other two texas men who drove there on may 3rd and began shooting guns and were shot immediately and killed. kareem met these two people at his house. they talked about the plot. they went out in the arizona desert and practiced shooting and then he gave the two men the guns they used in the attack. then the fbi agent who was involved in this case testified late yesterday in court in phoenix that kareem also considered and talked with them about some kind of attack on the 2015 super bowl in phoenix, but there is no suggestion that that ever got beyond the talking stage. now, as for this other case in new york the fbi arrested a college student yesterday, or rather over the weekend, we learned about it yesterday, accused of planning attacks there. his name is muammar asali, age 20. he was found wandering around the george washington bridge. he was acquiring information on how to build a bomb. tamron? >> thank you very much. we are learning more details this morning about that balcony collapse in berke

they had to have taken some form of transportation to get to garland.rack one or two dudes how are we going to track 37 of the worst of the worst? >> after they're released? >> yeah. >> in many instances they will never show up for the court date. that's a real problem. >> yeah. >> this is what undermines any confidence that people have, because in the immigration system because when we were working on this in the senate, we tried to put the strictest possible we could get out of democratic senate, strictest possible enforcement mechanisms. arguement people have, don't matter what you put in the law they won't do it. these kind of stories give credibility to that argument. that is one of the reasons moving forward on immigration is so difficult. >> how do you think your plan on immigration compares with your top contenders? i will throw one out there. hillary clinton. >> i don't know what her plan is. she was u.s. senator. never did anything on immigration of any means. gives speeches b. a few years ago she wasn't in favor of giving them drivers license

garland from what could have been a devastating situation.i would like to commend the police officer and all members of local law enforcement is dead in the face of terrorism and protected countless innocent lives. i remain i remain committed to working with each of my colleagues in the house local leaders and local law enforcement to uphold our duty as elected officials to protect the people we serve. it is my severe sincere hope that we can learn positive lessons so that other cities and communities can be as prepared as garland if an event were to happen and the local community. thank you very much and i yield back my time. >> i think the dillman from taxes. opening statements may be submitted for the record. the 1st joined the national counterterrorism center in march 2015 as deputy director. previously previously served as associate deputy director for counterterrorism national security agency. next mr. francis taylor assumes his post as undersecretary for intelligence and analysis in april 2014. previously he served as assistant secreta