hancock clashed with then education secretary sir gavin williamson over schools dunng gavin williamsonthe covid pandemic. hancock reportedly said he was mounting rearguard action to close schools in december 2020. that's despite gavin fighting tooth and nail to keep them open. minister for schools, nick gibb told gb news, the pandemic meant making rapid and difficult decisions . those whatsapp decisions. those whatsapp messages were messages where people were saying things in the heat of the arguments. but i know gavin williamson very well. he respects teachers very highly and of course there are big decisions that were being made very rapidly during that period about whether to keep schools open and so on and but ultimately we rely on the medical evidence coming from the chief medical officer and from the department of health in making those very important decisions . the search a making those very important decisions. the search a missing babyin decisions. the search a missing baby in brighton has ended after the remains of an infant were found in woodland last night. police say the

when you think that gavin williamson was opposed to l that gavin williamson was opposed to closing schoolshat matt hancock seems to have been pushing for? i think the messages have the potential to be damaging for quite a lot of people. matt hancock appears most often because they are his messages. the problem is that what has come out suggests a focus on his media profile, if you look at the first batch. the testing target was up first batch. the testing target was up and then on schools, you can see that putsch. but at the same time, a lot of these things such as the schools debate was reported at the time. gavin williamson's role in trying to keep schools open has a bit more light shed on it now, but it was always known that matt hancock was the chief of, pushing for more caution. what these messages are doing is bringing it back to the forefront, and adding some details for the most damaging part format hancock is not so much where he stood on these issues, but where he stood on these issues, but where it looks as though this is to do with his own image, which it does in some of these

we could see at the time _ secretary gavin williamson?that _ secretary gavin williamson? we could see at the time that government - secretary gavin williamson? we could see at the time that government wasl see at the time that government was chaotic and there was not a clear direction of travel for government, but all we could do as trade unions was work alongside the department at the time and gavin williamson and give the best of our advice in terms of what was happening on the ground. we could see from the medical evidence covid was raging in schools at that time and we were desperately trying to get a grip of it because no one could explain the certainty at that point that although everyone felt children suffered the disease better, we did not know whether it was a vector of transmission into the school community and adult population as well. what is revealed in these exchanges is the political drivers of this rather than the health drivers which was always the concern at the time. any concern at the time. any communication, - concern

the telegraph says hancock had a disagreement with gavin williamson. ng a rearguard action to close schools. despite williamson fighting to keep the police searching for the missing baby of constance marten khan and mark gordon have found the remains of a baby in woodland close to where the couple were arrested. they've in custody since monday night when they were found after 53 days evading police . police say they had police. police say they had refused to divulge information on the location or the welfare of their child . the duke and of their child. the duke and duchess of sussex have been asked to vacate their uk residence, according to the couple's spokesperson. it comes just weeks after the release of harry's memoir sparked. the spokesperson said a request was made for them to give up their residence frogmore cottage in residence at frogmore cottage in windsor. claimed windsor. reports have claimed the sanctioned by the . the move was sanctioned by the. king no, if you're a fan of the tv series luther, you'll be delighted to hear the straight tal

hancock clashed with the then education secretary, gavin williamson, over schools dunng gavin williamsonncock reportedly said he was mounting a rearguard action close schools in december 2020, despite sir gavin fighting tooth and nail to keep them open . and nail to keep them open. teachers in wales and the south of england have been strike today in a dispute over pay. it's the third walkout by members of the national education union this week with previous industrial taking place in the north of england and the midlands. the education secretary had invited teaching to take part in talks on the condition the strikes suspended, but they're demanding a better pay but they're demanding a better pay offer first. further, national strikes in england and wales are planned march the 15th and 16th . those are the latest and 16th. those are the latest news headlines. i'm back in an houn back news headlines. i'm back in an hour. back to . hour. back to. patrick oke yet again. a lot to go out, ladies and gentlemen, when it comes the locked down files and the journalists responsible for revealing ma

other messages appear to show matt hancock and gavin - show matt hancock and gavin williamson discussinggavin said, some willjust want to access to ppe. sir gavin said, some will just want to say they can't so they have an excuse to avoid having to teach. later, matt hancock congratulated him on a cracking announcement on exams, adding, what announcement on exams, adding, what a bunch of absolute cars is the teaching unions are. sir gavin williamson said in the earlier exchange, he was responding regarding the unions, and has the utmost respect for teachers who work tirelessly to support students. private discussions now public, casting new light on decisions with huge consequences. jonathan blake, bbc news. 0ur education editor, branwenjeffreysjoins me from our newsroom in leeds. what more do these revelations tell us? about the decision making at a crucial time over whether schools should have shut during the pandemic?— should have shut during the andemic? ~ , , ., pandemic? well, it gives us a ersonal pandemic? well, it gives us a personal insight _ pandemic? well, it gives us a perso

gavin williamson.pathy for gavin williamson. i never thought it would happen. and somehow to hear that and yet somehow to hear that that matt hancock mocking that matt hancock was mocking him. was like him. yeah, i mean, this was like it's two mice, it's a fight between two mice, really. mean, both of really. i mean, both of them seem the versions of seem the feeble versions of humans. williamson was humans. but gavin williamson was getting it right and then had to do another u—turn. remember do another u—turn. i remember the period we were mocking the period when we were mocking him all u—turns. him for doing all the u—turns. yeah, it wasn't the source of at least one of them. no, i always think you know, although think that, you know, although it to allow it is very tempting to allow your to flood your system your anger to flood your system when government when you read about government ups. but it's not always obvious who actually to blame. it's who is actually to blame. it's not who has been not al

but i know gavin williamson very well. he respects teachers very highly and of course they're all big decisions that were being made , decisions that were being made, you know, very rapidly during that about whether to keep schools open and so on and but ultimately, we rely on the medical evidence coming from the chief medical officer and from the department of health in making very important decisions . the search. a missing baby in brighton has ended after the remains of an infant were found in woodland night. police say the body was found close to where constance martin and mark gordon were arrested on monday. they'd been evading authorities for more than seven weeks, but refused to divulge information on the location welfare of their baby. on the location welfare of their baby . they're currently being baby. they're currently being held on suspicion of child neglect, manslaughter and the home secretary has reportedly blamed political for creating what calls a blind spot for islamist extremists to operate under the rada

time at the start of 2021, but the extent to which matt hancock was trying to fight against gavin williamson'satt hancock's aides were questioning mr williamson's decision, saying he was freaking out, not being rational, the extent to which the divisions were leading to which the divisions were leading to some big rows between the ministers is really fascinating and the fact mr hancock made it clear to his team that once the decision had been made by government to keep schools open that he wanted to fight a rearguard action against it is a fascinating insight to what was going on. it matters because a lot of parents and perhaps some pupils as well will remember the start of 2021 being a bit of a shambles, frankly, where we had a situation where the government was coming on the bbc saying, schools are definitely going to stay open, then a couple of days later, some schools might have to shut. by the end of the week, all schools being shut indefinitely because of a national lockdown. we knew there had been a row, we knew it had been pretty chaotic. but the extent to which ministers were battling

gavin williamson.pathy for gavin williamson. i never thought it would happen. and somehow to hear that and yet somehow to hear that that matt hancock mocking that matt hancock was mocking him. was like him. yeah, i mean, this was like it's two mice, it's a fight between two mice, really. mean, both of really. i mean, both of them seem the versions of seem the feeble versions of humans. williamson was humans. but gavin williamson was getting it right and then had to do another u—turn. remember do another u—turn. i remember the period we were mocking the period when we were mocking him all u—turns. him for doing all the u—turns. yeah, it wasn't the source of at least one of them. no, i always think you know, although think that, you know, although it to allow it is very tempting to allow your to flood your system your anger to flood your system when government when you read about government ups. but it's not always obvious who actually to blame. it's who is actually to blame. it's not who has been not al

gavin williamson and matt hancoc are teacher gavin williamson and matt hancocare awful. teacher gavine awful. i teacher gavin williamson and matt hancocare awful. i don't er gavin williamson and matt hancocare awful. i don't want unions are awful. i don't want to work. but the other thing that annoyed me today, we saw kay on twitter post kay burley on twitter post this thing matt thing saying why did matt hancock messages to hancock give these messages to a known lockdown denier , which is known lockdown denier, which is what calling isabel what she's calling isabel oakeshott thing to say oakeshott an absurd thing to say as journalist. as a journalist. why is a lockdown denier like a holocaust denier? well, climate change is disgusting to. say, yeah, you know, we are lockdown happen . know, we are lockdown happen. exactly. and the main story is not. hancock gave them to his . not. hancock gave them to his. oakes that is oakes although that is questionable. you know, questionable. yeah. you know, if that great for him to that was a great idea for him to do the main story, the files the

other messages appear to show matt hancock and gavin williamson discussing teachers' access to ppe. e. this is the manchester arena inquiry that is wrapped up and we are getting a bit of reaction to that now. let's listen in. can we begin by thanking sirjohn saunders for his determination to find the truth. to the legal team for the countless hours gone into this inquiry. can't write qc for her many kind and kind gestures. sue curran for making sure the families at the back of court were looked after and kept safe and the staff from the resilience hub for always being there to talk to. we would also like to thank mr warner qc for the respect shown to us from that very first day, when he immediately acknowledged the failures and apologised, unlike all the other services. all we as families have asked for from day one is the truth, acknowledgement of failures. and a determination to make sure that those dahlias are fixed, so that next time, because there will be a next time, because there will be a next time, because there will be a next time, but hopefully next time there will not be

that really better fight going on between matt hancock and gavin williamson. —— bitterfights. illiamson. —— bitterfights. ultimately mr hancock still says this is a partial account which is agenda driven, we need to wait for the public inquiry to see exactly what happened in the full context and the full content. but a remarkable sense of some of the big battles that were going on in government and how bitter some of them work. . ~' , ., government and how bitter some of them work. ., ~ , ., a the duke and duchess of sussex have been asked to vacate frogmore cottage in windsor, the couple's spokesperson has confirmed. they were reportedly told to leave the property by buckingham palace injanuary, days after harry published his memoir. 0ur royal correspondent sarah campbell reports. since leaving the uk for a new life in the states, prince harry and his wife meghan have returned just to handful of times. and when they have done so, such as lastjune for the jubilee, they have stayed in frogmore cottage, the house gifted to them by the late queen. the five bedroom property is situ

then education secretary gavin williamson over schools . covid. williamson over schools. covid. r gavin fighting tooth and nail to them open tv online under be plus radio. this is stupid . thank you very much . and stupid. thank you very much. and just to update , we are expecting just to update, we are expecting another news conference from sussex police down in brighton with a post—mortem of course on the remains of that baby discovered in that inquiry. will go to brighton when that happens , but that's no reflect on that . fallout from the so—called files is whatsapp messages teaching unions now criticise what they call the contemptible comments by the then education secretary gavin williamson, who appeared to accuse staff of looking an excuse not to work dunng looking an excuse not to work during the covid pandemic. those in the latest set of leaked messages published by the daily telegraph on october the first, 2020. matt hancock had sent a message just to gavin to congratulate him rather on the decision to delay a—level exams for a few weeks . sir decision to delay a—level

sir gavin williamson has said in the earlier exchange, he was responding regarding unions, and has the to support students. private discussions — now public — casting new light on decisions with huge consequences. jonathan blake, bbc news. the senior civil servant sue grey has resigned from the civil service. it's all been reported showed to become the labour leader, circular sermons new chief of staff. sir keir starmer says he's delighted she intends to take the rope at the bbc understand she's yet to formally accept the job or understand she's yet to formally accept thejob or sign understand she's yet to formally accept the job or sign a contract. for more let's talk to david wallace lockhart at west minister. this is a tele for the books, david. it is. there are _ tele for the books, david. it is. there are very _ tele for the books, david. it is. there are very few _ tele for the books, david. it is. there are very few civil - tele for the books, david. it is. | there are very few civil servants who become household names but sue grey definitely did at one stage when party gate was

so gavin williamson , who was the gavin williamson, who was the education secretary, was absolutely opposedthe schools being closed . in the schools being closed. in the end, hancock won and the schools were closed . and actually for were closed. and actually for a lot of our youngsters, two years of normal education and two years of normal social interaction. well, lost. so i'm asking you tonight, were we right to close the schools? give me your thoughts. farage at gb news. .uk i think it was an absolute disaster. is there anyone there that we have? an increasing number of kids genuinely suffering from not just mental problems , but social just mental problems, but social problems too, and very behind in terms of academic development at schools. it was just awful in my opinion. so you know, i may not like the way all these emails have been leaked . i may not have been leaked. i may not approve of it, but it is giving us some very powerful stories. and interestingly , yesterday i and interestingly, yesterday i read out a statement that had come from matt hancock and his team defending what

so gavin williamson , who was the gavin williamson, who was the education secretary, was absolutely opposede schools being closed . in the schools being closed. in the end, hancock won and the schools were closed . and actually for were closed. and actually for a lot of our youngsters, two years of normal education and two years of normal social interaction. well, lost. so i'm asking you tonight, were we right to close the schools? give me your thoughts. farage at gb news. .uk i think it was an absolute disaster. is there anyone there that we have? an increasing number of kids genuinely suffering from not just mental problems , but social just mental problems, but social problems too, and very behind in terms of academic development at schools. it was just awful in my opinion. so you know, i may not like the way all these emails have been leaked . i may not have been leaked. i may not approve of it, but it is giving us some very powerful stories. and interestingly , yesterday i and interestingly, yesterday i read out a statement that had come from matt hancock and his team defending what ha

, who secretary, gavin williamson, who i think comes out very well from these reports, who wanted toust determined to shut down. yes. and i think that the discussion over masks was especially telling, because as there was no evidence that masks helped. well, first off, that masks helped in all the policy world wide was brought in without any evidence. and there was considerable evidence before the pandemic that masks were completely ineffective and not recommended, which is why you had the likes of anthony fauci in the us. of saying to begin with that , no, we're not going with that, no, we're not going to do that . they don't do any to do that. they don't do any good. and then there was this perfect pivot and everyone started saying the same thing, which i'm afraid is the model for the whole pandemic, because it was a chorus . there was no it was a chorus. there was no debate about anything . there was debate about anything. there was very little independent challenge. and it seems to me that before easter of 2020, when the school term ended early, that was perfectly reasonable beca

arrangement raged about whether schools should re—open after christmas, the education secretary gavin williamson a day, then closed again. sir gavin writes today that he wonders that if at that point, he should have resigned. the whatsapps also reveal a candid private attitude to the teaching unions. mr hancock calls them... sir gavin agreed, claiming... 0ne union leader described the remarks as... contemptible. chris mason, bbc news. the former prime minister boris johnson says he will find it very hard to vote for the new deal between the uk and eu are over the northern ireland protocol. in his first public comments on the windsor framework, he criticised the deal, saying northern ireland would remain under uk law. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. how important is his intervention? how well,, since that deal was unveiled at the beginning of this week, the key question is how much broad support he can get. crucial to that other northern irish the core of brexit supporting tory mps. they are both waiting for legal opinions, going through the text. it also, we hav

and also gavin williamson there.lliamson , former education secretary was approached and a bit of a chat and then decided was not for him. so whether he's smelt a rat or not but apart from the potential conflicts of interests and the rights and wrongs , and the rights and wrongs, employees having second jobs and is 82,000 to be an mp sufficient recompense? there's also sort of national security implications. where was the due diligence? this was not a real. this was set up by led by donkeys and it appears that these employees were more than happy to chat with them at some length to companies that didn't exist. so you do wonder about you certainly do wonder also if you haven't at home, if you haven't seen this video , it is it is toe seen this video, it is it is toe curling . i couldn't even watch curling. i couldn't even watch it all because was that cringe worthy thinking, oh, god, how awful ? but anyway, let's move on awful? but anyway, let's move on to law and order crime and punishment. keir starmer in stoke on t

that was may 2020 and it was an open letter to gavin williamson saying that we were very concerned that evidential basis, the decisions in that case, it was the decision to require very strict social distancing , require very strict social distancing, including for young children and decision to keep schools closed . this was during schools closed. this was during the first school closures. so what the evidential basis and have you about harms please can you tell us that someone in your government has considered harms to children because locking children out of school them of ply children out of school them of ply is going to harm them? any parent could have told you that. and actually what we've learned so far with , each of these into so far with, each of these into functions that were very harmful to children and they were treated so harshly , you know, treated so harshly, you know, there is such flippancy , the there is such flippancy, the face of such egregious and widespread harm to children. and ihave widespread harm to children. and i have to say, i've been in tears lot of the w

that's only sympathetic when that's the only sympathetic when gavin williamson and matt hancock teacherions don't want unions are awful. i don't want to work. but the other thing that annoyed me today, we saw kay twitter post this kay burley on twitter post this thing matt thing saying why did matt hancock these messages to hancock give these messages to a known lockdown denier , which is known lockdown denier, which is what isabel what she's calling isabel oakeshott to say oakeshott an absurd thing to say as journalist. is as a journalist. why is a lockdown denier like a holocaust denier? well, climate change is disgusting to . say, yeah, you disgusting to. say, yeah, you know, we are lockdown happen . know, we are lockdown happen. exactly. and the main story is not. hancock gave them to his . not. hancock gave them to his. oakes that is oakes although that is questionable. know, questionable. yeah. you know, if that a idea for him to that was a great idea for him to do main story, the files do the main story, the files themselves they show and themselves on what they show and they tha

i think you remember this week, williamson, all week, gavin williamson, all these are always these teacherse always looking an excuse be looking for an excuse to be lazy. this speculation lazy. so this this speculation feeds that kind of mentality and i think we have to be quite careful about saying the civil service partial and not service is partial and not neutral because the civil service, i think, is something we should be of as a we should be proud of as a country. i'd like to be. yeah. and i think they can. in fact, i know they can take people of all political persuasions and they their challenge their job is they challenge the labour of the 97 to labour government of the 97 to 2010. they challenge ministers to make good decisions. they test it, you know , they push test it, you know, they push them. but at the end of the day, them. but at the end of the day, the service knows they the civil service knows they have to execute the programme of the government and the elected government and i think some the blob and think some of this the blob and leftie lawyers is this government tryin

hancock clashed with the then education secretary sir gavin williamson, over schools during the coviddemic . matt hancock pandemic. matt hancock reportedly said he was mounting a rearguard action to close schools in december 2020 despite sir gavin fighting tooth and nail to keep them open . nail to keep them open. meanwhile, teachers in wales and the south of england have been on strike today in a dispute over pay. that's the third walkout by members of the national education union this week with previous industrial action taking place in the north of england and in the midlands. the education secretary had ianed the education secretary had invited ed teaching unions to take part in talks on the condition the strikes were suspended . but they are suspended. but they are demanding a pay offer that is better. first. further, national strikes in england and wales are planned for march the 15th and 16/8. that's your latest news on back in an hour. more now from. michelle thanks for that. follow along, michelle dewberry. and i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 tonight. alongsi

which the government knew about and also matt hancock and some kind of how do i put it war with gavin williamsons it all for leandra. well, i think that that's a really good question because i know within my own family there was the whole i felt very strongly that the schools should not be shut down, that we needed to protect the children as needed to the children as we needed to protect elderly and protect the elderly and vulnerable. was this vulnerable. but there was this whole the young people whole of, well, the young people are to be passing it onto the older people . how you older people. and how about, you know, mixed houses where they're written to families? but to me that just never stacked up when you look at the data that now we can see being shared , those can see being shared, those whatsapp messages, the level of risk, as renny just said, the level of risk for someone even in their 80 is there was still a really good chance that they were going to survive if they were going to survive if they were given good care and, you know, simple, simple . so the know, simple, simple. so the s

which the government knew about and also matt hancock and some kind of how do i put it war with gavin williamsons it all for leandra. well, i think that that's a really good question because i know within my own family there was the whole i felt very strongly that the schools should not be shut down, that we needed to protect the children needed to the children as we needed to protect elderly and protect the elderly and vulnerable. there was this vulnerable. but there was this whole young people whole of, well, the young people are to be passing it onto the older people . and about, you older people. and how about, you know, mixed houses where they're written to families? but to me that just never stacked up when you look at the data that now we can see being shared , those can see being shared, those whatsapp messages, the level of risk, as renny just said, the level of risk for someone even in their 80 is there was still a really good chance that they were going to survive if they were going to survive if they were given good care and, you know, simple, simple . so the know, simple, simple. so

revealing that matt hancock fought to keep schools shut for longer, even as then education secretary gavin williamsonn. it's a tough picture, isn't it, between hancock and williamson. but more on the media abuzz, though, with today's superstar panel of political commentators . tonia political commentators. tonia buxton. we've got former conservative london mayoral candidate shaun bailey and political editor at the sunday mirror all around. nice guy, guys. well, nigel now said. now, while king charles washes his hands of troublemaking harry and meghan evicting them from meghan by evicting them from frogmore cottage, it's not a cottage. they're only uk residents. it seems woke obsessed only tv is still very much in the pockets of the duke and duchess of delusion. less than two years after piers morgan quit good morning britain for refusing to apologise, for questioning meghan markle's authenticity. jeremy clarkson has become the latest big name to depart itv after his silly remarks about meghan in december. well itv boss carolyn mccall , the woman who forced out mccall, the woman who forced out piers ,

revealing that matt hancock fought to keep schools shut for longer, even as then education secretary gavin williamsonain. it's a tough picture, isn't it, between hancock and williamson. but more on the media abuzz, though, with today's superstar panel of political commentators . tonia political commentators. tonia buxton. we've got former conservative london mayoral candidate shaun bailey and political editor at the sunday mirror all around. nice guy, guys. well, nigel now said. now, while king charles washes his hands of troublemaking harry and meghan evicting them from meghan by evicting them from frogmore cottage, it's not a cottage. they're only uk residents. it seems woke obsessed only tv is still very much in the pockets of the duke and duchess of delusion. less than two years after piers morgan quit good morning britain for refusing to apologise, for questioning meghan markle's authenticity. jeremy clarkson has become the latest big name to depart itv after his silly remarks about meghan in december. well itv boss carolyn mccall , the woman who forced out mccall, the woman who forced out piers

gavin williamson bashing heads with with matt hancock going the scenes.ock going behind the scenes. he's to steer it he's gently trying to steer it towards more with towards being more human with the of course , the policy. now, of course, bashing was the bashing heads yesterday was the conservative day to parliamentary politics. we both are. i was at michael's tissue and see where he is. yes, i was in i was at a friend's funeral. of course, it was more important to be in my constituency, to be honest. any any snippets of honest. but any any snippets of gossip i gossip from the relationship, i think levido did some good think isaac levido did some good polling there, which is interesting because interesting for you because the last polling we had, the telegraph labour 500 seats. telegraph gave labour 500 seats. if an election were held tomorrow. levido who will tomorrow. isaac levido who will be running an election strategy for party the next for your party in the next election? thinks that the election? he thinks that the labour the tories would win 282

and then sir gavin williamson saying the teachers so lazy they'll do teachers are so lazy they'll dothe unions to be fair and, there is some argue the unions were desperate to keep the teachers out of school. but what worries me is that there's a general perception there. and, you know, all three of, know, this than much of, you know, this than as much as anybody. we say in as anybody. but what we say in private politics is very private as politics is very different say in different to what we say in public. this absolutely reinforces and reinforces that divide. and i can people over this can hear people over this weekend, people is what weekend, people will say is what you think of us and you really think of us and worries me. i mean, hancock is a great deal that we can actually curse and his cruelty to curse in. and his cruelty to australian aborigines, aboriginal and bodies and aboriginal parts and bodies and things. and i think we can, we can deal with that after watching a of australia this watching a bit of australia this australian body part. amanda we talked to you earlier ab

gavin williamson got sacked from or stood down from from the cabinet . he turned it down cabinet.d it down during the interview so he obviously smelt something was awry . but interesting obviously smelt something was awry. but interesting sir graham brady, kwasi kwarteng, matt hancock, all all for it, which i think was quite interesting. yeah. the man that crushed the economy and the man like kangaroo penis i live on say that. who showed that? i say no to anything. sorry, curry. yeah, i i mean mean matt i mean, i mean i mean matt hancock isn't even going to hancock who isn't even going to be a few minutes. be an mp in a few minutes. right. | it be an mp in a few minutes. right. i it is right. just i mean, it is amazing. i'm worth 10,000 a day and you think but you're worth nothing. and of course, i mean, and you think but you're worth notiandylnd of course, i mean, and you think but you're worth notiandy is! of course, i mean, and you think but you're worth notiandy is completely i mean, and you think but you're worth notiandy is completely rightan, and you think but you're worth

gavin williamson, you know it's like picking legs off daddy longlegs . like picking legs off daddy longlegseed as i say, i can think of a few other public services were tough on the sport very little nofice tough on the sport very little notice inspections go from to bottom . if they were implemented bottom. if they were implemented might improve the quality of pubuc might improve the quality of public services country. i would be tempted to agree with that mark you said that one of the problems would be that these schools might not be ready for the inspection terms of the people that available the people that are available at the school. surely because my school. but surely because my daughter she goes to school and she every time there's daughter she goes to school and she always every time there's daughter she goes to school and she always knowy time there's daughter she goes to school and she always know because 1ere's they always know because everybody's on the best behaviour school changes behaviour the school changes and it anything that they it doesn't anything that they normally do

gavin williamson coming out in the telegraph yesterday, the education secretary at the time, saying hell change policy and that never again will we be locked down or subjected to this treatment while politicians laughed and joked about locking us up in horrible hotels and charging us for the benefit. [30 locking us up in horrible hotels and charging us for the benefit.- charging us for the benefit. do you have any qualms — charging us for the benefit. do you have any qualms we _ charging us for the benefit. do you have any qualms we are _ charging us for the benefit. do you have any qualms we are seeing - charging us for the benefit. do you have any qualms we are seeing a l have any qualms we are seeing a limited side of the story with the whatsapp messages? we have the inquiry and i appreciate you say it will take too long to come to light. but the government has said we will get interim reports on the prime minister said there is a proper process, it is an independent inquiry with the resources it needs and what we should do is let them get on and do theirjob. is there any part of yo

other priorities and we've seen this with the exchanges that revealed the conflicts he had with gavin williamsonry, wanted to keep schools open. matt hancock really wanted to get his way on things . so it shows how the things. so it shows how the department of health had their priorities were very much prioritised over other departments. and matt hancock often got his way. but you see is it just is it just me? i just sort of think with this well this is a statement of the numbers, isn't it? you know. yes the department of health is going to focus on purely the health aspects of this. the treasury's going to look the financial implications, the education secretary's is going to look at impact on schools and then government . you've got to then government. you've got to come to a compromise somehow , come to a compromise somehow, keep everyone a little bit happy. there's nothing in here which strikes means anything apart you would apart from what you would expect. you're right. it expect. no, you're right. it does. makes perfect i does. it makes perfect sense. i think more , than normal, think mor

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gavin newsom is one of those names. it is normal to look at people with huge name resignation. that resonates over the voters. >> julie: mark, right now self-help author mary anne williamsonly candidate in the ring to potentially challenge biden. yesterday white house press secretary karine jean-pierre with this jab. >> is the president annoyed, frustrated with marianne williamson for jumping into the race ahead of him? >> if i had a little globe here i can tell you, but if i can feel her aura, i don't have anything to share on that >> julie: they need is superstar? most of us have never heard of her. >> she have is not it or doesn't have the it factor. michelle obama doesn't want it. the problem is joe biden. according to real clear politics average he has 38% in a democrat primary right now. that is pathetic. when 2/3 of the american people think we are going on the wrong track as a country you have a problem. the problem for the democrats is they are stuck with joe biden because i've seen a deeper bench on the bad news bears. >> julie: the president has yet to announce he is going to run again. but all signs are pointing to that he does plan on doing so. does he have i

williamson is by choice or another individual. bill in new york. and we have jt in kentucky saying he supports gavinewsom democratic governor of california. and pete to as well. no develop about whoever the democratic president is i will be voting democrat. that is the text on this if you want to add your words to the mix you can text us at (202) 748-8003. front in new york this is jim on our line for those who support president trump. go ahead. caller: yes you have your finger on the button like you do every time i call. this place is a mess and trump is the only one who can fix it. i said time and time again the single family houses are packed like sardines. the places a freaking mess. only he can fix it. host: how so? how will he fix it in your mind? caller: you hear him. look at what biden did. as soon as biden got in one of the streets over here it was not bad enough now you cannot even see when you are trying to get out on the street here. the schools marquees are in spanish. this is america not the south of the border.. host: sharon in maryland. supporter of president biden go ahead. caller: