i'm willie geist. atlanta is in turmoil after an african-american man was shot and killed during a confrontation with police. protesters taking to the streets, shutting down a busy interstate and setting on fire the wendy's where the incident began, a day after 27-year-old rayshard brooks was shot to death after taking a taser from one of the officers. one officer has been fired. the police chief has resigned. we will have a live report from atlanta in a moment. >>> later in our sunday spotlight, a look at the movement generations in the making to change policing in america, after the death of george floyd. >>> in our sunday closer, the collective scramble by hospitals to prepare for a new wave of coronavirus and the to help. >>> later, we will re-visit a s samuel l. jackson on growing up to become one of the biggest box office draws in the history hollywood after dreaming of adventure while growing up in the segregated south. >> going hang out with flynn. >> you came close. >> i got a light saber, i'm

holding joe biden responsible for the hand that he had in crime bills, which were part of the zeit geistthen. joe biden's got some agesinswer to do and so does society, because we were all in on the ideas that police needed bigger guns to be tougher. how does joe biden actually respond and address that sort of accusation? >> you know, this whole mentality of tough on crime emanates from something in the 1960s, the crime report the last time before president obama's 21st century policing report there was really that sort of national convening. the zeit geist was fear of crime and that us in the predicament with some of the highest rates of incarceration in the world. here's what democrats and republicans alike have to do. they need to acknowledge that we were wrong in the past. that's not one party, that's the national mood got this wrong. we've got to look at the data which tells us that, which shows us what the path forward is and we need to correct those mistakes. nobody likes to say that they were wrong. sometimes you just have to have that moment of honesty, that recalibration if you

williams, it's willie geist.c type of anxiety and stress and medical condition effectively what you're describing, something that takes such a toll in racism that it has medical consequences? how do you measure that exactly? >> sure. i think we measure that with standard measures. so some of the things i have described is based on drawing a blood sample and measuring the blood and looking at the amount of inflammation in the blood. we have measured mental health disorders. we have measured blood pressure. so these are based on not self reports of individuals. the mental health measures are. but the physical health measures are based on studies where we actually measured medical outcomes with the traditional measures that we use in epidemiologic studies. the important point to remember, though, is not just the stress of discrimination. it's the racism that's embedded in the policies and procedures, one that i have studied as residential segregation, which determines where you live, and that determines all the oppo

how do you read the site geist of this moment well it's been a long time coming but the actual explosion was caused by several factors coming together and not just the system getting more and more raw you know that's not really the way revolutions happen and that there is some kind of smell coming from the system and that turns people that it's time to get rid of it but there were some very important and some of the unexpected factors that made at this past 2 weeks and historic occasion one that will be noted in history. number one of course was the corona virus which was something that had never happened in modern american times followed. on the heels in the almost immediately by an economic shutdown that has created conditions that are much like the great depression all of that coming on the recently we also have the bernie sanders phenomenon and i think that there is something here that's not worthy that this bernie sanders phenomenon gave expectations among new orleans young people that some kind of fundamental change was possible in this society. and then of course you know crashed

. >> admiral mccraven, it is willie geist. great to see you.sk more about d-day in a moment, but general mattis in the memo he wrote, said it was an abuse of executive authority, to clear that square and to put some members of the national guard in the street and use them the way the president did. do you agree with the general's assessment? >> well, i don't know whether -- i'd have to go back and check the legal application of abuse of executive authority. but what i can tell you is, when you're in the military, there are three criteria for every decision we make. it has to be moral, legal, and ethical. ethical, you have to follow the rules. legal, you have to follow the law. moral, you have to follow what you know to be right. either way, that's just not right. you're not going to use, whether it's a military or the national guard or law enforcement, to clear peaceful american citizens for the president of the united states to do a photo-op. there is nothing, you know, morally right about that. >> admiral, getting back to d-day and the oss, i

beser, it's willie geist.y and the instincts of humans to be social is taking over, especially now that schools are getting out and it's summertime. people are saying, you know what? coronavirus, i gave you three years of my life. we're going to have barbecues. i think there is some sense because in those early hot spots like in new jersey and new york city that the situation has been tampered that maybe it's time for life to move on. so what is your message? what is your mussage to the people about how they should be going about their lives this summer? >> the message can't be the same for every state, for every community. in new jersey where the numbers are coming down, that is the time to start to loosen things up. we're learning. as we learn more about the virus, we're learning that outdoor activities are safer. you still want to keep that social distance. by it's much safetory be out in your backyard with the barbecue than you are to be outside cooking in a kitchen. and it's looking like there isn't as mu

gottlieb, it's willie geist.this morning in another interview that you're more concerned now than you were three weeks ago heading into the fall. what do you mean by that specifically? what are you looking at and where are your areas specifically of concern? >> well, we have well, we have persistent infection in this country. we're diagnosing 20,000 cases a day. if you figured probably one in eight to one in ten infections, that's about 150,000 infections a day the that are new infections each day. and the prevalence of covid right now and the general population is probably 1 in 200. 1 in 200 people have the infection right now. either coronavirus the infection or covid the disease. it's a lot of infection to be taken into the fall when we think there's going to be a resurgence because we're going to be bam in school, back in college campuses. when you look at what is happening in parts of florida, parts of texas, houston and the austin areas, you look at arizona, south carolina, those are outbreaks. there's no o

>> najma, it is willie geist.to have you on the show this morning. >> thank you so much for having me. >> there is the bet that -- absolutely -- that the biden campaign is making is what is the alternative? if you're outraged at the trump presidency, are you, a, voting for donald trump, or, b, stay home? the election is too important to stay home, is the case the biden campaign would make. what is the alternative? what do young voters, and in the case of young black voters, what do troy thathey want to see morm biden so they'll come out and vote? >> they need biden to listen. they feel that he has not listened. he needs to listen to what they need. we're seeing this play out this week. there's so many discrepancies in how discrimination is playing out right now in the united states. young black voters need biden to listen. listen to what the policies could be, listen to how they can get involved, and really get deeply rooted in the community. so this is not just about a presidential campaign. this is not just abou

osterholm, willie geist. good to see you this morning. you said this virus will not rest.d until it reaches 60% to 70% of the population. that's going to pop a lot of eyes by hearing you say that. what do you mean specifically by that number? >> well, willie, it's interesting because i've been saying this for months. so have a number of my colleagues. the fact that americans don't get it, you're right, i think it probably pops your eyes when you hear this. what we don't have is the battle mindset we need to take this virus on. we keep thinking we just get over the next week or the next month, if we just get things reopened up again, everything is going to be okay. i can tell you right now that's not the situation. when you think about all the pain and suffering, death and economic disruption that's occurred with 5% of this population having been infected, think what it's going to take to get to us 60% or 70%, by then enough people will be infected and hopefully have immunity that it slows down transmission in the community. we're in this thing for months. americans and the

i said i don't know how you have the zit geist to have something everybody is using >> everybody hasnown the power of photo shop. we are like, why not bring that into the device that everybody is using to take all those pictures, which is a mobile device so whether you're on android or ios, bringing that power, it's also a new form of app that we have come up with, which is two distinguishing features. the first is the amount of artificial intelligence in that application that enables you to take better pictures something a lot of us will do. and second, for the community to participate with different kinds of lenses. so expect to see some really cool lenses that are being contributed by the community that will enhance the value of that particular application. >> well, that's why -- we can go over digital media and do the arr, what i'm talking about is the creative spirit you have is what is going to get your company through this, when other companies just don't have the ability to be as creative as you are. thank you so much for coming on "mad money." >> thanks for having me, jim >>

right now back to "sunday today" with willie geist. ♪ day 32, i washed my hands ♪ day 36, you sewed aed of france >>> that's jake gyllenhaal at home like the rest of us singing "across the way," described by its writers in the theater group 24 hour plays as a love song for the age of quarantine. he has been become a celebrity for his movie roles. the 39-year-old oscar nominee is an acclaimed stage performer as well. last year, he showed that range by starring as the village in a "spiderman movie "spiderman" movie and debuting in a play with two actors performing a monologue about life and death. jake and i got together last summer at the hudson theater in new york to talk about the play and his 20 years in the spotlight. in the final days before the curtain goes up on jake g gyllenhaal's latest production, crews are hustling to get the place in shape. >> falling apart. >> literally caving in. >> we are in "money pit." >> gyllenhaal performs. what's that like to have moved this from the public to broadway? >> man, i don't know what it is. you make me cry. i feel really responsible to m

. >> congresswoman bass, willie geist.ith us this morning. >> thank you. >> you've taken a leadership role on this question of police reform on the house side, putting together this proposal, this bill. republicans in the senate have shown some willingness to do something on this. >> yes. >> obviously, they're not going as far as you would like them to go. we saw the president's executive order yesterday. there does seem to be some recognition, at least, of this moment. perhaps it's not far enough for many people. but do you see what you've proposed here making it through a republican-led senate and being signed by the president of the united states? >> well, you know, i am extremely hopeful, and i'll tell you why, because i think my republican colleagues as well as the president are mimicking our legislation. they have included a number of the same categories, but in my opinion, they've taken the teeth out of it. and i think that this moment in our country is so critical. we have protests, you know, that have been in 50 s

in the meantime back to "sunday today" with willie geist. >>> it's my point. >> you are going to havetient and wait for the officer to get here. >> almost half an hour before i got to speak to you. >> i completely understand. >> respectfully, officer, i don't think you do. >> i have kids. >> how old are they? any of them black? >> that's kerry washington in last fall's netflix film adaptation of "american son" oran originally a play whose broadway run starred washington. since the killing of george floyd in minneapolis nearly two weeks ago, "american son" has become a teaching tool for some families. it tells the story of a mixed race couple in florida whose son is missing after a traffic stop for a tense 90 minutes washington and her co-stars conflict policing, rascial profiling and what it means to be black in america. as it spited inwashington poste to spark conversation that would lead to change. we thought this would be a good week to re-visit our sitdown from november with kerry washington. kerry washington loves to put on a show. over the course of her career, she has strived t

in the meantime back to "sunday today" with willie geist. ♪ >>> that's alicia keys and john legend performingong" in a versus battle. the popular series on apple music. there are 26 grammys sitting at those pianos. like the rest of us, john has spent the last three months at home with his family. his wife and their two young children. unlike the rest of us, he spent that time putting the finishing touches on a soulful new album called "bigger love" out this week. at 41 years old, legend has joined the most exclusive club in show business. earning an emmy, grammy, oscar and a tony to become the first african-american man to achieve the elusive egot. we got together for a sunday sit-down over zoom to talk about this. his daughter had to turn off "the adams family" during our interview. i don't think she was happy with me. ♪ for john legend, life under lockdown means music is now a family affair. ♪ a piano-side concert streamed on instagram from the los angeles home he shares with wife chrhisd his children. >> hi, luna. thank you for helping me. i'm sorry to disturb your day. everyone is mad at

roy, it's willie geist. good to have you back on the show.have public health officials, including this morning the former head of the fda, saying that hospitals in texas, florida, and arizona are on a trajectory to see, as you describe, what we saw in new york a couple months ago, to have to suspend elective surgeries, to be overwhelmed, to create covid units in their hospitals. the governor of texas yesterday, without issuing a formal order, said you know what, it's probably best if everyone stays indoors, unless you have to go out. so, what do you see over the horizon in places like texas and arizona? >> well, willie, it's really concerning. you know, texas medical center, i actually, after hurricane katrina, i was a second-year med student -- we evacuated to houston. so to this day, i have such warm feelings about that entire city and that medical community. it's one of the world-class medical centers with multiple hospitals, and they are all going to be burdenedspital is ae opening up to adult beds. it's going to be really serious. but i'

>> congresswoman, it's willie geist, you're the perfect guest to have on this morning because of yourory. if this piece of intelligence, the intelligence service of russia was using taliban backed militants to attack american forces in afghanistan would that piece of information rise to the level of telling the president? >> sure. listen, you have to check this stuff out and you have to like look at the body of intelligence but if they're having a debate about it and the nsc is getting a piece of finish intelligence, a report from the cia, that means the cia has done their own internal vetting, they've looked at this and they're putting it forward. i worked at the nsc under bush and then under obama. if we got a report like that, at a minimum you would have a memo slapped on top by the national security advisor saying mr. president we're looking into this, but i wanted to make you aware. here's what we're doing to follow-up and i'm going to get back to you on it. in the meantime let's think through our options with russia right now to confirm what we're looking at here. the fact that

. >> so that point -- it's willie geist, good morning.read the opinion authored by chief justice roberts he doesn't argue against the policy, he argued that it was poorly argued, poorly explained by the trump administration and why they want to unravel it and they say let's kick this back to congress. if you want to do something, do something about it. so what do you view as the future of daca? because this doesn't necessarily protect those young people forever, in fact, it does not. what do you believe to be the future of those 700,000 or so people in our country? >> i think yesterday they breathed a huge sigh of relief, because they at least have protection for now. and i think, in all likelihood, through the end of this term and hopefully we'll have a change in administration and that will fix that issue. but really daca is just one example of why our nation's immigration laws need reformed. they just don't match up with our current economic situation and our country's values. and they really need an overhaul. >> so nina, let me ask yo

. >> it's willie geist. good to have you both on this morning.ed to anticipate my question. i want to know from both of you who are on the ground whose lives were redirected from education to working on the ground there on police violence in ferguson and all of those years since in august of 2014, what has changed since ferguson? since the point of all of this is to make things better and to get the policy changes? so as you look at the nearly six years since ferguson, have things gotten better? have things changed on the backs of all of this activism? the police have not killed any less than the 2014 number. we do see a statistically significant increase in the largest cities. in the top 100 cities we see a decrease offset in increases in suburban and rural communities in a way that erases the good work we're seeing in cities but what we know about solutions is two real buckets. the first is how do we reduce the power of the police? so when we look at use of force policies, that's about saying we want to reduce the power that we have to inflict

. >> chiney, it's willie geist. so great to have you on the show this morning.me americans are just starting to speshs. what do you think about this moment has so brought out the american public, that allows a coalition like yours to step forward and bring about a leadership role? this has been going on, as wes moore points out in his book, for generations, for hundreds of years. there's something a little different just from the outside looking in in this moment. what do you see as you look out in the streets? >> i think the time is now. and i think we're realizing this because there is way too much at stake. i was at school in stanford university in the bay area when colin kaepernick began his peaceful protest with the 49ers. he was in the wnba when maya moore announced she was leaving the league in her prime to fight for the wrongfully convicted. even for lebron james after winning a championship, my favorite game of all time as a basketball player was game seven of the 2016 final. he followed that up with his i promise school. showing athletes are passionate

sweet willie geist >> go to today.com/read if you want to join the club, read the book, get in on the joining us but first your local news. >>> good morning. 8:56. i'm marcus washington. firefighters are still at the scene of this overnight brush fire that threatened homes in contra costa county. it started around 11:00 p.m. near a mobile home park. this was on marsh creek road where clayton meets brentwood. it burned nearly ten acres and damaged a power line. 150 customers have been without power, although crews are hoping to restore that power any time now. so far no cause right now that they know of, but firefighters are not ruling out the possibility it may have started from fireworks. >>> happening now, bob rydell is there talking with firefighters about the ongoing fire danger. he'll have more during our midday newscast. also on our home page. >>> another story we're following at midday, as many expected, the united states is not on the eu's new list of countries approved for nonessential travel. the list opens holiday travel to eu nations for visitors from 15 other nations but

program today, and in the past, many of them, like myself, like you, like john lemire, like willie geistt have to think about telling their 16-year-old son or daughter, when they're going to get their driver's license, remember, kids, if you're ever pulled over by a police officer, keep both hands on the top of the wheel, in full view of the officer. 10:00 and 2:00 on the wheel. if you are asked to get out of the car, display your hands, get out showing your hands. we don't have to do that. donald trump would never understand that difference. he does not understand the country. >> how sad and how tragic, that in this country in 2020, that's where the black kids still have to give that talk to their sons. >> we've been talking about historical parallels to what we are seeing today. we want to play for you now this moment from richard nixon's presidential nomination acceptance speech in august of 1968. >> when the richest nation in the world can't manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest tradition of the rule of law nation with the greatest nation has been known for a cent

. >> ambassador rice, it's willie geist.. want representation that has as they're being taxed. but why the push right now? do you see something particularly urgent in this moment about getting statehood for d.c.? >> yes, willie. the reason it is so urgent is because we've seen, in very painful and frankly violent terms, what the lack of statehood can bring to the residents of the district of columbia. we had federal forces beating up citizens of the district of columbia in front of the white house. that could not happen without the consent of a governor if we were a state or at least there would be a very high bar to be crossed legally for that to happen. so last week with the unilateral deployment of all kinds of forces, many of them without markings, without insignia, without any clear chain of command in here doing some very disruptive and frightening things to largely peaceful protesters to me underscores the urgency and the necessity of statehood, particularly when you have someone in the white house who could care less

. >> jamaal, it's willie geist. great to have you on the show this morning.ults hold up when all the votes are counted, you will have unseated a 16-term incumbent in eliot engel. a man who has been in washington and congress since 1989. what did you hear from voters on the street during the course of this campaign that told you they might be done with congressman engel? >> well, they said just that. that they were done. they said he was absent. he was not present. he was not engaged. it was time for a change. the school that i founded in 2009 exists within the district. and while working at the school for ten years, i never seen a flyer announcing a town hall by engel's office. no assemblies organized by congressman engel's office. when you look at pockets of the district, we have poverty rates as high as 30%. you're three times more like three die of asthma in the bronx than anywhere else. we have developments that haven't received a dime from the federal government in over ten years. we need a fighter and an urgent champion and a coalition builder for these

. >> senator schumer, willie geist. good to see you. >> hi, willie. >> you mentioned the incidents in lafayette park. you came out quickly and denounced that, as did others. but yesterday, we heard from someone perhaps we didn't expect to hear from, general mattis. the former secretary of defense under president trump, who called that moment an abuse of executive authority, with troops going in and clearing that park. he also said, of the man he used to serve, president trump tries to divide us and doesn't even pretend that he is trying to unite us. what did you make of the criticism from general mattis? >> i thought it was amazing. i know general mattis. he's very reluctant to do this. but i think he was doing two things. one, he was sending a shot across the bow to the military leaders. don't let this president, who would try to be as dictatorial as he could be, use you. don't do that. because that's not the tradition of the military. the tradition of the military is to protect our freedoms. freedom of speech. free td