but this is the first time that has happened, because we have gone from mercury to gemini, and gemini to apollo, and apollo to the shuttle, but nothing this time. that is what john glenn is worried about and we are all worried about. nasa is trying to move ahead and get commercial spacecraft and hoping within a couple of months to announce the heavy lift contract to puts a troe nauts for t -- astronauts out of the earth orbit called a heavy lift, and they hope to get that announced shortly, thomas. >> we will know about tomorrow, and great to see you, jay barbary, we will hope that the weather clears up. >> thank you. >>> and tamron hall will anchor the news from kennedy space center tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., and you can catch that right here on msnbc. don't go anywhere though, because we are back after this. >>> mark and jennifer bitterman were riding through france when they had a great meal and discovered it was due to a special salt that was used and they brought it back and sold it in the portland store, the meadow, and the word of mouth spread about it, and led to expansion in new

for 20 years instead of being in your late 20s in mission control for apollo 11 and worked mercury, gemini and apollo and go on to the shifting of skylab, shuttle, station. if we don't have a dynamic cycle that is more akin to the business cycle of innovation, new products, three to five years instead of 35 years that is a problem. one thing in the implementation of the vision for exploration that i did not like was one of the drivers was if we are going to go to mars in 30 years we have to design the vehicle now. if we are using the same vehicle 30 years from now to go to mars we are fundamentally doing it wrong in my view. that is part of the lack of innovation, whack of dynamic activity. we have got to get out of that. commercial crew, commercial cargo started under administrator gretchen, the commercial group program under this administration, those can change that and allow nasa to do the bigger things that take longer because that dynamic part of the sector will be there to inform it. >> let me add one point to that. started on this end of the table, one of the things that has emerge

if we go back in time, mercury gave way to gemini and gemini to the apollo and from the apollo to thehuttle missions. we don't have that kind of definition right now. we don't know what's going to come up. we know commercial companies have been given the it's tok work on getting astronauts up -- the task to get astronauts up into the international space station and low earth orbit but nothing for the next few years and nasa has been assigned to try to build another spaceship to go beyond low earth orbit so we are talking about to mars maybe or to an asteroid about 2025 or 2030. >> in the meantime we'll depend on the russians. it will be interesting to see. terrell brown at cape canaveral. >> $65 million a seat. >> not cheap. terrell brown, thanks for joining us from florida. >>> time now 6:13. some progress in the debt debate. why president obama is changing his tune. >> and soon no more naked images at the airport. the new software that is less invasive. >>> we are cleared for take-off out of sfo today. finally making it to above average temperatures all around the bay area. 77 as a

. >> y los gÉminis. >> yo tengo 4 niÑos y no quiero a ninguno gÉminis. son demasiado imprudentes.o de dios. >> ay! dios mÍo. >> muchas preguntas y pocas respuestas. vamos a una pausa y enseguida regresamos con los signos restantes. no ♪ ♪ >> tiene un hijo que sea tÍmido, que sea tremendo, los astros hoy nos acompaÑan aquÍ con carlos javier para analizar cÓmo es que influyen los signos del zodÍaco en nuestros hijos. con hijos libranos quÉ es lo que vamos a vivir en la casa? >> son niÑos muy romÁnticos y te apapachan. son un terrÓn de azÚcar pero no se equivoquen. que si los llevamos la piscina primero el dedito, despuÉs el piecito. >> esto es no solo en los adultos. >> son de un carÁcter fuertÍsimo. son niÑos que hay que llevarlos de a poco, todo lo que se les dice lo graban en el disco! todo lo graban y lo toman como personal los escorpio. tengan mucho cuidado cÓmo actuan. >> no se olvide de nada con un hijo escorpio. >> y un sagitariano? >> son aventureros, carismÁticos, lo más importante con ellos es que son arriesgados, o sea que cuando uno ve a un niÑo por ahÍ con 4 o 5 aÑos c

retire the shuttle if the next vehicle was ready, just as mercury ran its course and was replaced by geminiwas replaced by apollo, was replaced by the shuttle. if there was something next on the pipeline, would it be better -- >> absolutely, you put your finger on it. i would feel better if the next vehicle was ready to go when we took the shuttle out of commission. that would be completely different than the way we're doing this thing. right now there's a gap. if we tailored them in so the one program dove tailed and replaced the other one, i think that would be fine. but that's not the way we're doing it. >> t minus 18 seconds and counting. >> godspeed, john glenn. >> john glenn is the right stuff. >> he was one of the original mercury astronauts, the first american into orbit and he flew at a time that rockets were blowing up more often than they were flying. this last launch is just part of the overall picture. and that's 50 years in space by the american people. >> what about the american spirit? say nothing of research, say nothing of exploration, both of which i think are hardwired i

in the 196 0s when the mercury, gemini and apollo missions fascinated the world's fascination and when the moon. >> one small step for man. one giant leap for mankind. >> reporter: no place was prouder. so proud, several monuments have been built here across the river honoring not just those who went into space but also those who put them there, like city manager mark ryan's parents. >> a retired ibm-ers. my father work and the instrument for the appallee rockets and my mother in the quality control records keeping for ibm as well ngts take this board off. straight ahead. that's the launch pad. >> reporter: bobby lived here more than 40 years. >> the accomplishment, the time frame. the ingenuity of our people to accomplish what they did in such a short period of time. i'm still amazed by it. >> reporter: when tragedy struck like it did in the fire or the shuttle explosion years later, the people here mourned. >> we grieved. the whole city did. it was quite auf. awful. like a member of the family had died. the "challenger" hit us lard for three years. unemployment rate went up. people w

gemini shells is an execution i want to torturing and killing his victim his german well seeing the fullas it's going to wanted by the hague for more than fifteen years but then it's your feelings hyundai for it says and despite being quick to see prosecution of all the war criminals. cauldrons of the libyans have taken to the streets of tripoli in support of tunnel to down payment of funds of nato spaulding's and in a one day mess it's the nation that maybe you need to ask. to return to europe if the airlines continues its strikes. and international vessels with several hundred peace activists on board along with humanitarian aid. stopped in the greek ports by coast guard it was just a very good sent down to this from another contender killed by israeli forces. ok more than the fifteen minutes time right now they alternate in sports. thanks as always always great to have you with us plenty ahead including. box for the first time maria sharapova gets set to return to the wimbledon final today the russian won in london as a teenager seven years ago. ready to rumble the fight night perhaps

and surprise neutral gemini's they are willing to provide limitations greater force and libya and direct contrast to its original position of intervention and its circulation is one pressured by other members. and saving greece the country's paralyzed economies are top of christina god to do list she sets out her stall as the new chief of international monetary fund. that they are watching r t and our weekly news review welcome to the program and its latest cloak and dagger case georgia has accused three photojournalists of working for the russian secret services the group that includes president saakashvili his personal photographer was netted on thursday charged with the spying for foreign states two days later the same point. but as time barton reports many see it as a witch hunt. georgia is on a spy role and not for the first time this time the spotlight being shined on those usually behind the camera for photographers were arrested on thursday on suspicion of spying and who was their supposed muster but first georgian authorities didn't say who they thought the alleged spies were wo

it overlapped with gemini. these are three -- man crew was total of 11 successful missions, six of them land order the moon. launch vehicles used to power missions included the saturn five rockets which were the tallest, heaviest and most powerful rockets ever launched. until then the spaceships had been fairly small and rock wrets not all that big either. 30 years after the -- that you are now seeing the end of the shuttle program. this is going to be "atlantis." mission 135. it is going to be taking off here and at some point we hope that it is scheduled for tomorrow 1, 1:26. i don't know whether it is going to happen because of that weather. >> yes. 70% chance there if not they will try for saturday. if not window on sunday. it will take off. mother nature will hold all the cards. >> do you have the rocket take off next to you? here we go. there it goes. ali will be down there as well as anderson cooper who will be hosting a special. >> who are the most bankable women in hollywood? angelina jolie and sarah j

them so we have in the public opinion sorts of different countries for instance in france or you gemini something risky we can say. right some something like that again it's really it's against greek case or irish autumn or part of this so what is missing from this country is to say we try to do our best for instance we have a vote in the us there are plans and now we we are. to sell ourselves it's means that we try our best to solve this is reaching pretty sweet can't we really mean and here or maybe there is a missing girl by. the degree of the politicians and the europeans own to be induced to buy their own or really good ones i read somewhere some aside some are saying that these bailouts it's just a way really to maintain the pain professor doesn't mean i'm afraid that's all the time we have for today from the high finance institute and the university of paris thank you. but the cash strapped e.u. is giving christine legarde much to think about in her first days in charge of the i.m.f. she told reporters that she's picking up the baton from her predecessor to deal with the problems

. >> gÉminis! son personas que ellos odian o sea que ustedes los traten como tontos o torpes.e de esta semana y mes y si usted es sagitariano o geminiano y es bien volatil ellos los ponen sobre con los pies sobre la tierra. >> uno es muy lÓgico y otro es muy soÑador! >> vamos a continuar contigo >> se imagina teniendo en su casa a un william levy o a ninel conde? cÓmo tratar a nuestra pareja de acuerdo a su signo zodiacal. y por quÉ me voy a los artistas? es para que usted tenga una especie de comparaciÓn. le toca el turno a libra. >> pero la comparaciÓn es muy importante porque a veces en la relaciÓn se acaba un poco la miel. para el signo de libra a ellos usted como pareja de un libra tiene que tratar de ponerlo en sus zapatos. >> es como tener a ninel conde en la casa. >> exactamente, si usted logra eso va a tener una relaciÓn espectacular. para el escorpio... >> levanten la mano los escorpio! puro escorpiÓn en este estudio. >> este es el signo de la honestidad y sinceridad. si usted como pretendiente o pareja de un escorpio si es sincero desde el primer momento la relaciÓn

. >> young had flown twice on the gemini program and twice on apollo.alking and riding on the moon during apollo xvi. griffin was the rookie. >> it was only when we got inside of a minute that i looked at john and said i think we're really going to do it. that's when my heart rate went up. >> t minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4. we've gone from main engine start. >> the first stage, 8 1/2 minutes under thrust goes back so fast. on my first flight my eyes were like saucers. so that seemed like about 15 seconds. >> john, your heart rate hardly went up at all. but bob's went up to about 130 on ascent. >> i was excited. >> were you confident that you guys were going to get back okay? >> well, we had ejection seats if things went really south we could jump out. >> roger columbia on the nice ride. you're lofting a little bit. probably be slightly high at staging. >> we were doing lots of stuff. so we didn't really have time to concentrate too much on, hey, i finally did it. but we did take a moment every now and then to look out the window and enjoy it. >> columbia,

. >> young had flown twice on the gemini program and twice on apollo. and riding on the moon during apollo xvi. griffin was the rookie. >> it was only when we got inside of a minute that i looked at john and said i think we're really going to do it. that's when my heart rate went up. >> t minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4. we've gone from main engine start. >> the first stage, 8 1/2 minutes under thrust goes back so fast. on my first flight my eyes were like saucers. so that seemed like about 15 seconds. >> john, your heart rate hardly went up at all. but bob's went up to about 130 on ascent. >> i was excited. >> were you confident that you guys were going to get back okay? >> well, we had ejection seats if things went really south we could jump out. >> roger columbia on the nice ride. you're lofting a little bit. probably be slightly high at staging. >> we were doing lots of stuff. so we didn't really have time to concentrate too much on, hey, i finally did it. but we did take a moment every now and then to look out the window and enjoy it. >> columbia, houst

para el signo de gÉminis, los geminianos tienen la semana de la luz y del ententimiento, quÉ pasa?omÁs quÉ belleza. >> y adentro vas a encontrar poncho todas las caracterÍsticas, la posiciÓn de tu luna, el momento de tu nacimiento en quÉ se encontraba el sol. >> algo que se pueda decir en pÚblico. >> un hombre con un signo natal leo que defintivamente tiene la fuerza que nos ha demostrado aquÍ en el programa y en cada uno de sus etapas profesionales, quienes lo hemos seguido de cerca y una luna en escorpio que habla de que defintivamente este hombre es como dicen los cubanos! candela! >> candela pura. >> con mucho cariÑo y defintivamente espero que la leas y como te digo la idea de una carta astral no solo para ti, sino para todos los que la escuchan, es poder tomar informaciÓn sobre quiÉn soy yo como ser humano para crecer y aportarle lo mejor a mi familia y a la sociedad para que vivamos mucho mejor. >> un libro que nos ayuda a entender quiÉnes somos y como nos desenvolvemos en este mundo. >> tremendo regalo. >> me pongo de pie. no te vamos a despedir porque faltan 6 signos mÁs.

you were here for gemini, apollo, the space shuttle program.hat do you think the legacy is going to be? >> the legacy is it taught us how to live in space. pure and simple. to live in zero gravity for a while, to be able and concern ourselves about what you do the next day up there and in addition to that we've done many, many biological experiments to help us learn how to live in space. >> now that the shuttle program is ending, 1 they 5th mission scheduled to land on thursday. the program will be shut down. then you take into consideration you have private companies going out. what do you think the role of nasa is going to be? >> nasa's going to be have the real of beyond low earth orbit. nasa will take the difficult task of developing a technology, how to live further out in space, to go beyond and exmore the solar system. it may take us decades but -- >> sad to see the program go but you feel it's time? time's right? >> it's always sad to see something good as it was with apollo. but we also developed new things, new ideas and that's what's

. >> reporter: mercury and gemini and apollo introduced us to space, but the shuttle program got us moreit. the nation mourned the losses of two crews and heralded triumphs. and young minds began to aspire to space. >> because more people who looked like more of us and who might be like more of us, who are medical doctors or researchers and not just necessarily jet test pilots were able to fly on this vehicle. >> it seems like space is very interesting, and that could be fun. >> reporter: indeed, processes vetted by the highest minds in engineering, now familiar to those who may some day work in the program. >> we learned about all of the separations of the external tank and the solid rocket boosters and the engine cutoff and everything. >> reporter: so for some, it's as much the passing on of a favorite teacher or even a helpful friend. someone whom you're nonetheless better off for having known in the first place. >> i followed the space shuttle program from day one. and, you know, to me, it's kind of sad that, you know, we're ending it now. i mean, i think that, you know, it's become

this is pure transportation for astrona astronauts, capsules, if you think about "apollo" "gemini" thesee station for profit. nasa is counting on private industry to come up with a spacecraft they can launch in a money making venture. how that's going to work, what the business model is, if nasa is the only client remains to be seen. they're talking a taxi cab model where the company supplies the spacecraft to the pilots or rental car model where nasa rents the vehicle the company builds and launches with its own crew. all of that has yet to be defined. >> without these glamour programs for nasa like the space shuttle, like "apollo," "gemini" and "mercury," is there a danger of public support drying up for the space program? >> certainly space insiders are worried about that. the commercial thing is an up and down taxi cab sort of situation. the real concern among spash aficionados is will there be a space component, will astronauts go out into the solar system to the targets and missions that inspire the youth of the country and lead to those kind of great leaps forward in technology? t

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to orbit the earth circling three times as part of nasa's mercury program and then followed by the geminiand the first to establish it was at lhe moon. but the dawn of the apollo program brought tragedy when gus grissom, and ed white and one other astronaut were killed. but then they were returned safely to earth as conquering heroes with a ticker tape parade with the goal of beating the russians to the moon in 1975, saw the first-ever joint space effort between the two countries when the final apollo mission docked followed by the soyuz with a hand shake of american and russian, and america would not return until the first space launch which endured its tragedy, and nasa never waivered and changed space travel forever with 135 missions inspiring millions our chief astronomer at the franklin institute has watched many of them. derrick, thank you for being with us. as we watch the final landing, what is this final space shuttle mission representing for the united states? some think it is the end of the space program as we know it. what are your thoughts? >> i think that the way to characte

we had the end of several eras, mercury, gemini, apollo. the space station will go at least 2020.are focused on doing the research for the next missions. we have responsibility for several activities going out to explore mars as well as asteroids. we've got an exciting future ahead. >> it's a four member crew going up today. a 12-day mission. explain to folks what's going to happen. >> mainly the purpose of this mission is for the four members to take up food, supplies, hardware that will be needed for the next several years. we'll do other space activities. we hope soon now the commercial people will step forward and permit us to go to the space station while nasa focuses on missions beyond orbit. >> jack boyd, thank you for your time. the doors here open in about 25 minutes at 7:00, 600 people have actually preregistered to watch the live feed that nasa is going to provide. they have reached a maximum capacity so it's a popular place to be this morning. i want to leave you with this. it's breakfast time. people enjoying breakfast. the astronauts they enjoyed theirs. nasa sent ou

for the manned space program, and we have always had a program to transfer into it from apollo to gemini, to orbiters. and so if you go through with the heavy lift program, thousands can be employed so why don't we have a date on the rockets that are needed. >> we have dates and destinations. we are building the next generation of vehicles here now at the cape, and we are going to be going beyond lower orbit. unfortunately, i have to disagree that we don't have plans or support in washington. we have bipartisan legislation signed into law last year which supports these vehicles, and we are going to be utilizing the men and women of the space coast and across the country who have developed the space shuttle program in order to take that next chapter. those, the little boy you spoke of, and i have two boys, and they are going to be part of an unbelievable future for american space. we are the leaders in space. we are going to continue to do that. >> well, obviously, we hope your words ring true and that we hear more specifics on the destinations and the plans and new information on the hea

earlier the gemini and the mercury programs costing less money here. one of the questions people ask, what do we get for this? computer technology, a number of things, electronic banking advances, scheduling software out of the shuttle program. consumer home recreation, a lot of different things perfected on shuttle missions you can find around your home. tracking this last mission for us, mission control in houston, cnn's ed lavandera, how is it going? >> great, john, rather a fascinating place to catch this glimpse of this moment in history so it has been a fascinating day for us. >> what can you see right there as you are tracking mission control? give us a tour. >> reporter: sure. sure. all right. if you look behind me here, just right behind me is where the flight director sits, and that is the person that they have teams that will rotate here. this will be manned 24/47 during the course of this mission. and what's fascinating is that there are very few monitoring that actually show them video of the space shuttle. the main monitor gives them the

. >> gemini -- germany has voted to complete the shutdown their nuclear reactors. is that an overreaction? do you expect potentially other countries following suit? >> my focus is first and foremost year on the u.s. to make sure we have the appropriate reaction here to the even selling japan. ultimately, it is up to the german people and government to decide what is appropriate to them given their circumstances. >> do you think other countries might follow? >> i do not know. it is hard to say. will will be important is for here in the united states come for us to take the task force recommendations and work through them in a systematic way to make some kind of approach. ultimately, if those approaches are focused on nuclear safety, in the end, then there will be good informational with which to make a decision about the long- term prospects. >> as a scientist, as easy a country trying to juggle its energy needs, is nuclear a necessary part of that balance? >> the day i took the oath of office to be a commissioner, i stopped having an opinion about that. ultimately,

we had "gemini" and "mercury." "mercury" started 50 years ago with the launch of alan shepard.hat, they were putting up satellites, of course. the first one went up in '57, that was sputnik by the soviet union. finally america got a satellite in space 31st of january 1958. a couple months later i came here and was fortunate to get a job with a great company like nbc news and so i've been here ever since and i've been fortunate to not being sick during one of the astronaut launches. today was number 166. frankly, it will be at least four years before we have another space launch from cape canaveral with astronauts, possibly five. i hope to be here for number 167, matt. >> we hope so, too, jay. thanks for all your years of bringing this to the country and to nbc's and msnbc's viewers. >>> coming up, license to thrill. we're talking to the author behind the latest book in the bond franchise and finding out what the world's most famous spy is drinking these days. here's a hint. it's not shaken or stirred. ♪ [ female announcer ] something unexpected to the world of multigrain... tas

. >> it is sort of sad but we have gone through this sort of activity before with mercury, gemini, apollo, then the space shuttle. and i think we always have exciting things in our future. ames in particular is a research and development center which helps prepare for the next mission which i think will be unmanned mars missions, missions of the astronauts. so we still have exciting things in front of us. >> can you tell us more about your role in those projects going forward? >> some of the projects that are moving forward? we have -- ames is fortunate in that it has scientists and engineers working in both aeronautical programs to develop more efficient safer aircraft. we have science programs looking at the possibility of life in other plays. our new kepler mission which is han buy flying looking for possible habitable planets is really exciting and has some findings that i think will keep us busy for years analyzing. >> all right. very good. we know weather is going to play a huge factor in this. you don't make that decision, but what exactly are they looking at when they make the dec

the yankee stadium of man's space flight began much further back, in the 1960s, when the mercury, geminin. and when the man landed on the moon -- >> that's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. >> reporter: to place was prouder. so proud that several monuments have been built here across the river, honoring not just those who went into space, but also those who put them there. like city manager mark ryan's parents. >> they're retired ibmers. my father worked on the instrument unit for the apollo rockets and my mother was in the quality control records keeping component for ibm as well. >> reporter: bobby sox has lived here more than 40 years. >> the accomplishment, the time frame, the ingenuity of our people to have accomplished what they did in such a short period of time, i'm still amazed by it. >> reporter: when tragedy struck, as it did on apollo 1 or the shuttle years later, the entire city mourned. >> we grieved. the whole city did. it was quite awful. like some member of a family died. >> the "challenger" hit us hard for three years. the employment rate went up, peop

. >> the gemini program and finally the development phase of the apollo program. >> liftoff. first trip to the moon. >> walter became really america's expert on the space program. it was his favorite story. >> the eagle has landed. >> it was such a happy time which when those astronauts landed on the moon. >> man on the moon. phew, boy. >> we were bogged down in the vietnam war. there was the tet offensive, there was all the unrest and there was the civil rights movement. >> it's one small step for man. one giant leap for mankind. >> just a great moment for the country to be able to take a break from those very dark and difficult times. >> they got the flag up now. you can see the stars and stripes. >> it certainly gave us a lift at a time when we needed it. and it paved the way for what came later. >> america's first space shuttle. >> the launch of the first space shuttle was an amazing gamble because this machine was the most complicated machine ever built by man. >> this was a gas, the space shuttle. look at this thing. we thought rockets were cool. >> i'm not sure that ma

i remember the gemini and apollo launches and you do, too.ly was. >> gregg: so inspiring to all of us. speaking of inspiring, you're going to be at yankee stadium tonight. right? >> that's right. watching sir paul mccartney. i'm going with my sons. it's going to be a great boys night out. >> gregg: good for you. that's great. wonderful new york moment. i went to a broadway show last night with sutton foster. anything goes. she is an incredible talent. just wonderful new york experiences, aren't they? >> great weather in new york now. so enjoy time out for sure. >> gregg: good to have you. >> great to be here. >> gregg: that's going to do it for russ. rick folbaum and arthel neville taking over. have a great weekend.

. >> para los gÉminis. tienes amigos? >> no... sÉ... sÍ, sí, carmen. >> son los organizadores.. y la mÚsica los va a llevar mucho al recuerdo y un poco nostÁlgicos y finalmente, si se quieren echar un trago y estÁn en casa, tienen luz verde con eso. los libra yo creo que los libra ellos lo Único que no quieren saber es de ruido y bullicio. y ellos no quieren saber nada y si por ahÍ se les escucha al timbre de voz de la suegra o el jefe salen. ellos estÁn llamados a estar en un lugar sin mucho bullicio, tranquilos, la van a pasar bien y bien rico para los escorpios! que abandonen todos los planes para el fin de semana porque van a tener mucho trabajo. o sea de un momento a otro va a salir el trabajo, va a ser muy importante para ellos porque van a poder adelantar todo este tema laboral y va a ser muy importante porque lo van a disfrutar, en la comodidad de su sofÁ o la playa y los escorpios en la comodidad de su escritorio, sÁquele el proveche porque el fin de semana es uno. >> el trabajo es bendiciÓn. y sagitario? >> son los rumberos del fin de semana. por ahÍ, por ahí tienes q

october of last year gemini terrorist again targeted the united states homeland with ups packages containing explosives, one of the packages was bound for the philadelphia international airport, in my home state of pennsylvania. given the direct threat that aqap poses to the united states national ticket interests, and taking into account significant gains made in u.s. operations and against al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan over the past year, counterterrorism efforts in yemen must be a central focus of our national security strategy. that said, our -- closely in line with political, economic and developmental challenges as well. those challenges are those that the united states must work to address as part of a holistic approach to this challenge. first of all, just outlined three. three priorities. first, we need a better understanding of the political opposition and prospects for democratic reform. acting president, the vice president in yemen, as only a small power base in the opposition appears fractured between the so-called joint meeting parties, jmp. and other individuals such as

problems and the vietnam war, people would rally together around their tv set to pull for "mercury", "gemini," and "apollo." >> what does the end of the program mean for the space program and also for american innovation? do you think that the united states will fall behind other countries in terms of space, and where does the next great challenge lie? >> well, because as i mentioned this is the united states versus the soviet union in space, and we won the cold war, the united states, you are seeing a lot more international focus, a lot more sharing between the united states and russia, france, israel, and other countries that are interested in space. one of the problems that i think that -- >> well, right, but from now on, doug, the fact that nasa will pay russia in order to get astronauts on to the international space station. >> yeah, exactly. that is the new game. you know, when we went to the moon, and with apollo 11 and put the flag on, some people thought it should have been a u.n. flag and by putting the american flag on the moon, it was triumphantism, and particularly in an era of

instead of, you know, being in your late 20s in mission control for apollo 11 and have worked mercury, gemini and apollo and then to go on and do skylab, shuttle, station. if we don't have a dynamic cycle that is more akin to the business cycle of, you know, innovation, new product, 3 to 5-year time frame instead of 30 years that's a problem. i think one of the things on the implementation of the vision for exploration that i did not like was that one of the drivers was -- if we're going to go to mars in 30 years, we have to design that vehicle now. like if we're using the same vehicle 30 years from now to go to mars, then we're fundamentally doing it wrong, in my view. and that's part of the, you know, lack of innovation, lack of dynamic activity. and, you know, we've got to get out of that. commercial crew, commercial cargo that was started under administrator griffin and the commercial crew program now under this administration, those can change that and allow nasa to do the bigger things that take longer because that dynamic part of the sector will be there to inform it. >> let me add one

real heartbreak for those who've been involved in the space program going on way back to mercury and gemini to see where we are now in a couple of months, ending with a stream of programs that have been so important to our country is something to lament. >> can i take an alternative view? i believe we are in an exciting time, that we really aren't just at the beginning of the bright new age of humans in space. i don't disagree with the preset of the budget challenges that we face. augustine committee, for example, look the way we do this, the scientific basis of the air. we can send robots and other places further into space much more affordably and actually accomplish a lot why. there's something about u.s. leadership in space that is important. there's something about driving new technologies that lead to economic opportunity. one of the things i find incredibly exciting and the reason why i think there's a great future as i look back to 1969. two incredible governmental conscience in 1969. within the dominant, but we invented the internet. but they took two different fundamental paths. n

going forward, you know, this is the first time in our lives when there hasn't been a mercury or a gemini for an apollo for a space shuttle program but the space shuttle itself was designed back in the 1960's and 1970's. it's probably a little antiquated. we're probably ready for something new. it's just too bad we don't have a plan. >> steve, you make a good point. 1970's technology, you know, i was driving a dodge dart sport when the first space shuttle started flying and now, we got new technology. we can make the ship safer for the crew. give them a better escape system which the shuttles do lack so, you know, i agree with the decision to retire them but we don't have the follow-on successor right in place and that was the original plan but the last two presidents moved that date off into the indeterminant future. >> i thought astronauts were required to have corvettes auto. auto yeah, they didn't issue me one. i came in too late. >> we understand they're about to open the door and let the four man crew out. we'll see and keep an eye on that. tom, in the big picture, as we know the te

or whether, like gemini has in between mercury and apollo, it will become the unsung workhorse of getting us to that next step. that is now exploration beyond lower er-- orbit. >> i will go first, i can't see how the shuttle can't be recognized for the outstanding vehicle it is. it allowed us to learn and work in space. look at the eva's, we have done so many things with the shuttle that wouldn't have been done otherwise. it's what enabled us to say, all right, we have to focus beyond earth. we learned about lower orbit and we have more to learn about deep space. we have a space station there as a result of the shuttle. that has to be one of the shuttle's crowning achievements, that world class laboratory. and now we have to utilize it. and i think that the space shuttle will be recognized for that. >> and in the past too, was the shuttle worth the cost. and my response was, it was absolutely worth the cost. but not from a monetary perspective but from evolutionary perspective of the space program. what i believe we need to do as humans is go colonize elsewhere eventually. and as bob said