which are quite crucial in any successful, you know, crime intelligence as well as the general administration of justice. >> david, let me ask you, since he was elected what kind of steps has the president take ton sideline supporters of the former president? >> well, he certainly -- he certainly hoed his own path. there are a range of policy measures that have been taken. for example, the nuclear, the -- zuma's desire to build a whole bunch of nuclear power plant -south africa has been taken off the agenda. that was to be a very big payday for zuma and the -- and his supporters. i think in tackling corruption he's parted company with zuma and he has riled zuma. in appointing generally competent and honest people to be on the boards and in the executive suites of our state-owned enterprises, to put in competent and independent people in charge of the prosecuting authority in most of the important policing agency, he set up a special unit of the national prosecuting authority whose remit is focused on state capture cases emanating from the state capture era, the era of the zuma administration. he's done

you know, crime intelligence as well as the general administration of justice. david, let me ask you since he was elected, what kind of steps has president obama opposed to taken to sideline supporters of former president zuma? well, he certainly, he certainly howard's own poff. you know, there are, you know, there are a range of policy measures that have been taken. you know, for example, the new, clear, the xoom is a desire to build a whole bunch of nuclear power plants in south africa has been taken off the agenda . and that has to be a very big payday for the zoom and the and the gupta's. but you know, in tackling corruption, i think he's, he's parted company with zuma and he has his riled xoom that in appointing, a generally competent and oddest people to be there on the boards and in the executive suites of our state owned enterprises. to putting competent and independent people in charge of the prosecuting authority and most of the important policing agency, he set up a special unit of the national prosecuting authority whose remit is, is focused on state

of law enforcement interference in our elections and almost immediately attorney general bars decision prompted the chief of the justice department's election branch to resign in protest. the government services administrator, gsa, has still not signed the paperwork necessary for the biden transition team to begin its work and here in the senate the republik and leader in several republican members are trying to give their president air cover. yesterday in the same breathre that leader mcconnell celebrated the reelection of said republik and senators he c declined to congratulate the winner of the presidential election because the election results have not been officially certified. the political right is eagle to celebrate the right while delaying judgment and casting doubt on the results. indeed the republican leader cannot even mention two words joe biden who regardless of what were public and senators may think will be the next president of the united states. to republican members of this chamber have called on their own secretary of state, fellow republican to resign for no other apparent reason than the fact that president trump did not win their state. they allege the secretary of state did not deli

general. they were security and appellate court advocates that served as the fourth highest ranking official at the department of justice. former obama administration attorney general eric holder is also part of the effort. while team biden takes on team trump in court, the transition team is pulling together. the former vice president is preparing to become the president-elect. >> what i'm focused on is getting these final votes done. we're very focused on making sure the counting goes on, the vice president is continuing to do the things that he's been doing every step of the way, not losing sight of the fact that covid cases are rising day after day in this country as well and making sure that he's briefing on that. >> part of biden's day was getting a briefing on the coronavirus from his advisers. in terms of the vote, the campaign is saying they're going to hit the 270 number. might be today or tomorrow. they're comfortable in arizona and nevada, neil. >> neil: thanks very much. speaking of arizona, trump campaign folks are commenting on that. a state that they argue is theirs. it's in the congress column here. >> there were hundreds and thous

of law enforcement interference in our elections. while most immediately attorney general barr's decision prompted the chief of the justice department's elections branch to resign in protest. the government -- the government services administrator, g.s.a., has still not signed the paperwork necessary for the biden transition team to begin its work. and here in the senate the republican leader and several republican members are trying to give their president air cover. yesterday in the same breath that leader mcconnell celebrated the reelection of certain republican senators, he declined to congratulate the winner of the presidential election because the election results have not been efficiently certified. the political right seems eager to celebrate the rights it approves of and casting doubt on the results it doesn't. the republican leader could not even mention two word, joe biden who regardless of what republican senators may think will be the next president of the united states. two republican members of this chamber have called on their own secretary of state, a fellow republican to resign for no other apparent reason than the fact that president trump did not win their state. they alleged the secretary of state did not d

attorney general and talked about who the appointment of the attorney general could be and where he may go where it comes to criminal justice, the system in general and how the biden administration is focusing a lot there and could be sally yates, a close confidant of the president-elect. but sally yates will not be liked by a lot of republicans because she didn't enforce the travel ban under the trump presidency. what do you make of that pick? >> i think for starters you see that biden cabinet selection and transition is a polar opposite of what we saw with president trump four years ago. right? president trump narrowed the pool of applicants by ruling out anybody like tim that didn't stand for him in the election of 2016. wiped out a class of republican talent, some of them wanted to out of belief to support him if they didn't vote for him and yet the president narrowed the pool to almost a very small band of people he considered loyal enough. in biden you have the opposite. you have a wide coalition in the left, middle and even some people advocating republicans to name to significant positions to fulfill a broader coalition of this vice president and this president-elect is

of the by the administration on any deportations. leon fresca that former deputy assistant attorney general who went to the u.s. department of justice. thanks so much for joining us from mount. is there any? thank you. now, brazil's president, by abol sanaa, is facing his fast political test since coming to power to yes, the country is facing a municipal elections which could prove to be a kind of referendum on his tenure often are, has been criticized for his response to this pandemic mechanic. have reports from rio de janeiro, even brazilians have a difficult time keeping track of so many means 19000 candidates are running for mayor and half a 1000000 for city council in more than 5000 cities. that's why some have adopted monikers to help them stand out. like john bailey, some pena, in admirer of u.s. president donald trump, in brazil's president jade balsam nando. he took on both their names. well, i'll sort of drop both a lot of that. the walsall and ira trump and bill sonando defend the values that i believe in church, family, and country. for the 1st time in history, more than half of the candidates are black. more than 30 per

and neil katyal, veteran of the justice department, former acting solicitor-general during the obama administration who's argued dozens of cases before the u.s. supreme court. indeed, counselor, given the urgency of the real stuff going on, much of it for naught, do you concur with mr. krebs today's press conference was the most dangerous hour and 45 minutes of television in recent memory? and secondly, can you assure the folks watching tonight that none of this will result in states not certifying, that none of this will result in actual electors lying and changing their votes when it comes to cast their votes? >> i can assure you that i think today was really the storm before the calm. that is i know there's a lot of anxiety now with trump like potentially trying to interfere with these michigan electors and all the things, brian, that you're referencing. but it's going nowhere in the end. maybe makes him feel good to tear the country apart, but it's going to fail. and your viewers shouldn't tear themselves up about it. the fact is trump has lost far too much in far too many states for this to ma

of the trump administration. the attorney general is going to be somebody overseeing a justice department that would very well potentially handle that. biden has been very clear according to advisers about not wanting to necessarily have his administration be consumed by investigations of his predecessor. but in sally yates you see somebody who was aware of investigations into president trump when she was the deputy attorney general but also would be a target on the right. there's pressure on biden according to sources we're hearing from to make sure there's diversity among the big four cabinet positions, secretary of state, secretary of defense, treasury and a.g. this might affect who is the choice ultimately for attorney general, deval patrick, former governor of massachusetts is considered a leading choice for that. biden has no shortage of options for defense and a.g., two of those positions in the big four still left untilled at this point. >> thank you, guys. good to see you this afternoon. >>> coronavirus cases here, they are surging at nursing homes across this country. according to the centers for medicare and m

general. the biden administration has a real opportunity to do something about this. cannabis specifically and drug policy generally must be part of a comprehensive conversation about criminal justicen the united states. host: john hudak, senior fellow of studiesof -- area at the brookings institute. thank you for your time this morning and all the insight into this issue. guest: thank you. host: we have about an hour and a quarter left. it is small business saturday in the united states. we will spend the rest of the program on that topic. we will have a guest from the main street alliance coming up in half an hour. once we take a short break we will return to your calls on small business issues. what are the conditions for small business in your area? we look forward to talking to you. ♪ >> >> the u.s. supreme court hears oral argument in trump v new york. the car while here whether president trump has the authority to exclude undocumented individuals from the census. listen to the oral arguments live on c-span or on the c-span radio app. >>

of republican attorneys general and governors. states led8 of those by texas. two individuals that serve as consultants in texas and lived there. you have the department of justice representing the trump administration in this case all on one side arguing that the mandate is unconstitutional and that the entire rest of the aca should be invalid. host: i want to remind viewers that we will be covering the oral arguments at 10:00 a.m. eastern with live coverage on c-span and c-span radio. our guest is katie keith to talk about the aca. here is how we are setting aside the phone lines for this segment. if you are uninsured, that line is (202) 748-8001. for those that get employers insurance, (202) 748-8002. for all others, (202) 748-8003. by the, thatvered number is (202) 748-8000. publishedh was yesterday, a preview. , one of theith things that you talked about, the issues to listen for, do the challengers, a coalition of states, have standing to challenge the aca? tell us what standing is and if the court will make that decision? is one of these bedrock legal principles. you don't get to go to court for any reason. you can't file any lawsuit you want because you don't like something the government ha

attorney general william barr instructed the justice department to pursue allegations of voting irregularities, even though no evidence of that has emerged. the general services administrationtransition resources from the biden camp, but the president-elect is moving forward and is planning to meet with advisers today. >>> as the biden/harris transition unfolds, they are hopeful that president-elect joe biden will focus on privacy, immigration policy which impacts the ability to attract top talent from overseas. the silicon valley leadership group looks at vice president-elect kamala harris as an ally. she could tackle the lack of black people and women in leadership roles. >> it's about innovation and market share that is lost when our leadership teams don't reflect the communities that we serve. i know she gets it. i know she leads from a place of authentici authenticity. >> the group hopes that biden's belief in science will lead to a shift of climate change policy. >>> san jose state university will honor one of the nation's top scientists. the university sent out this tweet saying this year's william randolph hersearst award goes t dr. anthony fauci. dr. fauci is being

attorney general william barr instructed the justice department to pursue allegations of voting irregularities, even though there is no evidence of that emerging. the general services administrationsition resources from the biden camp, but the president-elect is moving forward and is planning to meet with advisers today. >>> san jose state university will be honoring one of the nation's top scientists. the university sent out this tweet saying this year's william randolph hearst award goes to dr. anthony fauci. the school says that dr. fauci is being recognized as the most trusted voice during the covid-19 pandemic. san jose state is going to host a virtual ceremony to honor him next week. >>> we're back with a new recall alert on those popular ring cameras. some of them catching fire. >>> and new details on the murder hornet hunt. we are learning what experts say they are finding inside their nest and you are not going to like it. >>> before we get to that, a live look at the big board. right now we're up about 45 points. another update on how the markets are doing next. plus -- >> right up there, me and three other guys, there's only two of us left. he's 90, i'm pushing 88 hard

administration. >> reporter: at the trump justice department, a shake up. the director of the elections crimes branch quit immediately after attorney general william barr authorized federal prosecutors to investigate. if they find substantial allegations of fraud. unlike the president, the attorney general did not suggest any such evidence has been uncovered. and while republicans tried again today to overturn obamacare at the supreme court, president-elect biden spoke extensively about his health care plans and said he wants to build on that landmark law. janelle, back to you. >> thanks so much, alice. speaking of obamacare, the supreme court appeared to signal they'll leave most of it intact. it is before the high court. at the center of the argument was the individual mandate. it requires americans to buy health insurance or pay a penalty. the court seemed heading for a ruling saying if part of the law is no longer valid, the rest of it can be left intact. >> i think it's hard for you to argue that congress intended the entire act to fall if the mandate were struck down when the same congress that lowered the penalty to zero did not even try to repeal the rest

of justice is alexion crimes branch boss has resigned . and also, at the same time, the general services administration boss or administrator emily murphy says there will be no immediate help for any biden transition till at least the middle of november, maybe not the not even then. what exactly is going on as compared to what you were going through back in 2000, when i can only speak to what's going on out while i am nonpartisan, in my representation of candidates in public officials. but i can tell you the difference between now and 2000 is that in 2000, as i mentioned, everybody acknowledged the problem. there was no question that there were defective ballots. the only issue was how we got them only challenged to determine who the real, the where was the other little differences. both candidates at that time were committed to letting the courts do their job and to accept in the results and supporting whoever the winner by richard. thank you. well, while mainstream media speculates about a biden presidency and celebrate a covert vaccine from share price rocketing scandal, hit drugs make a phase a. is there something more profound that we a

administration. >> overnight attorney general william barr in a justice department memo authorizing u.s. attorneys to pursue substantial allegations offind them. >> trevor: oh, maga fans rejoice because bill barr is on the case, yes! the same bill barr who investigated obama and found nothing, with the same department of justice that investigated hillary and found nothing. so if you're looking to find nothing you know the man to call. looks like mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham are also partnering with trump to undermine the election, which is a terrible idea, but i would love to see these three together in a heist movie. okay, guys! you steal the votes, and eni'll parking lot! which four seasons? mrrr! here we go again... now, look, i don't know if donald trump genuinely believes that he's the real winner of this election. i mean, keep in mind, he's actually the person who actually thinks he looks good. he does his hair in the morning and walks away from the mirror thinking, yeah, i nailed it. so who knows what he thinks. but the truth of the matter is most of the republicans know that joe biden will be the next president, and rig

administration. >> at the justice department a shake up. director of the election crimes branch quit. immediately after attorney generald federal prosecutors to investigate if they find substantial allegations of fraud. the attorney general didn't suggest any such evidence has been uncovered. >> a lot of attention on the supreme court today. key justices appear to signal the leave most of obamacare in tact. for the third tile it's before the high court. the center of the argument today was individual mandate. requiring americans to buy health insurance or pay a penalty. the court seemed to be heading for a ruling that said even if part of the law is no longer valtd, the rest of it can be left in tact. >> it's hard for you to argue that congress intend the entire act to fall if mandate were struck down. when the same congress that lowered the penalty to zero didn't everyone try to repeal the rest of the act. >> that's interesting. kavanaugh echoed a similar sentiment. if the spire law is over turned, more than 20 million americans could lose health insurance. in a pandemic. the court will deliver an opinion by next spri

of the democrat washington establishment and those who are not in the criminal justice system. clearly flynn got caught up in that. as a general he was coming into the transition between the obama administration the fbi went out of their way, they wanted to entrap him. they wanted to see if they could get him fired. they could gum up the works. they used this antiquated logan act, i have a bill i have to repeal the logan act to go after flynn. now they think they won the upcoming election, ben rhodes says they're talking to foreign parties doing the same exact thing they used to go after general flynn on. so the hypocrisy is rampant, liz. elizabeth: all right. let's watch senator ted cruz really take it to former fbi official andrew mccabe who was fired for lying to government investigators about his media leaks over the clinton foundation probe at the fbi. let's watch senator ted cruz here. >> all right, you're a lawyer. have you ever answered a hypothetical in court? if it is correct that i am actually quoting it, something the department of justice frequently did wrong in this investigation, if that is what ben rhodes said if joe biden is talking with foreign leaders right nows does it vio

one of the big questions for the in coming administration who will lead the justice department? tonight the possible contenders for attorney general president-elect has yet to name the nation's next top law enforcement officer. >> i will not do what this president does and use the justice department as my vehicle to insist that something happen. >> to make those changes, fox news learned president-elect biden has a long list and is considering names from california attorney general to former acting attorney general sally yates to former supreme court nominee merick garland. some of the names getting the most attention are the former homeland security advisor and yates. yates served as attorney general for the first 10 days of the trump administration was fired for refusing to enforce the president's travel ban on muslim majority country. she signed a 2016 fisa application to surveil carter pa page. yates is no fan of the current doj. said bill barr moved to drop the case against michael flynn was highly irregular. >> she was miffed at jim comey for doing an end run around her. >> flynn is a free man as the president pardoned him.

administration is on a collision course with president-elect biden. president trump's attorney general mobilizes the justice department over claims of voter fraud. biden's team considers legal action over delays in the transition. how the unfolding drama could impact national security. >>> 1 million new covid cases in ten days. hospitals and morgues are overrun in some areas. but there is new hope for a vaccine. we'll talk to hhs secretary alex azar and a member of mr. biden's

about this, but he said he'd get the justice department -- the attorney general prior to this administration a pretty free hand. i don't know politically the outcome of this, but i think this train is leaving the station and i think these investigations are vigorous and serious. and i think that trump knows that, and i don't think it can be stopped, brian, i really don't. >> train may be leaving the station but we've asked both of these gentlemen to stay right where they are for another two minutes. >>> coming up, with the transition officially under way what to watch for in the waning days of this administration when we come back. g daysf othis administration when we come back ♪ upbeat music transitions light under control. ♪ upbeat music transitions signature gen 8, available now in 4 new style colors. transitions. >>> just a little christmas with melania moment as put together by the folks over at the recount. james carville and mike murphy remain with us. mike, i have an amalgam of questions for you. they're all about the lion in winter. talk about trump dangling running for another term what that does to the republican field, what you think -- h

with us for more, neal katyal, a veteran of the justice department, acting solicitor general, the top lawyer before the supreme court during the obama administration. he has argued 42 cases before the u.s. supreme court. counselor, i know i've asked you this before, but with each new day, there seems to be a new lawsuit. do any of these cases you've seen bring any merit? do any of them make you sit back and examine the argument? and please tell your audience why a justice of the supreme court was involved tonight. >> well, earlier tonight, brian, i said to ari melber, i gave the scholarly legal term for what trump's value is, it's an arcane term, it's butkus. there's nothing here. i mean, you started the show tonight by saying trump is flooding the zone with lawsuits and you're absolutely right. there's a lot of lawsuits he's filed. he's filed seven since election day. he's gone 0 for 7 in the lawsuits. and that trend is going to continue. it's not going to get better for him. the best chance he's had, and this is what you're asking about, is pennsylvania, where basically pennsylvania's legislature has said that ballots have to arrive by election

the case where we have the trump administration and these attorneys general aiming to eliminate the law on pre-existing conditions. the justices seem very skeptical of this argument. this argument to do that, putting even aside the wisdom and the compassion, are very weak. so, what president-elect biden needs to do is he needs -- ideally in health care he needs to pick up two senate seats in georgia. that would make his slate a little easier. there's a lot he can do from an administrative standpoint. i think he has to start with getting rid of some of the executive orders that took rights away from transgendered americans, women, people of color, made it easier to discriminate. and then reversing the sabotage that's gone over the last eight years, which has made the law more challenging. you can start with that and he can get a congress -- there's plenty to build from. >> chris, andy and kristen, hold on, because i do want to get into the gsa and the transition, that's really important but i want to bring in democratic governor of new jersey phil murphy now. he joins us. we want to squeeze you in before we have to go to biden as well. governor, than

about this, but he said he'd get the justice department -- the attorney general prior to this administration a pretty free hand. i don't know politically the outcome of this, but i think this train is leaving the station and i think these investigations are vigorous and serious. and i think that trump knows that, and i don't think it can be stopped, brian, i really don't. >> train may be leaving the station but we've asked both of these gentlemen to stay right where they are for another two minutes. >>> coming up, with the transition officially under way what to watch for in the waning days of this administration when we come back. we're helping change the future of heart failure. understanding how to talk to your doctor about treatment options is key. today, we are redefining how we do things. we find new ways of speaking, so you're never out of touch. it's seeing someone's face that comforts us, no matter where. when those around us know us, they can show us just how much they care. the first steps of checking in, the smallest moments can end up being everything. there's resources that can inform us, and that spark can make a difference. when we us

administration official indulging the president's beautiful dark, twisted fantasies. so is attorney general and jackass-o'-lantern, bill barr. yesterday, barr broke with decades of justicetment policies intended to keep law enforcement from affecting the outcome of an election, when he sent a memo instructing federal prosecutors that they could investigate "specific allegations" of voter fraud before the results of the presidential race are certified. so federal officials are now planning to intervene in our election at the request of their leader. that also has a bit of an international feel, doesn't it? during covid, this is the closest we're getting to a vacation. ( as tourist ) "such a fascinating country! i'm going to drink coffee in little cups, order a croissant, poop standing up, and just enjoy the coup d'etat." barr's move was so egregious, it led the justice department official who oversees investigations of voter fraud, richard pilger, a career prosecutor in the d.o.j.'s public integrity section, to step down from the post within hours. you know it's bad when the guy from the "public integrity section" quit. it's like managing a restaurant and getting a lette

the administration of justice and protect a deeply corrupt president and deeply compromised president. history will not be kind to bill bar. lest we forget some 30 years ago he was the attorney general, tomac under president bush the elder and he managed to get the criminal convictions and criminal investigations and indictments of the senior bush administration officials up to and including the secretary of defense on christmas, 1992 as he was about to leave office and that was the final cover of the iran contra cover of investigatioupinvestigation andr did that, so he knows what he's doing. >> i think we've got time for one or two more questions. if you want to drop one or two more questions, please do so one of the questions i think a lot of people are struggling with and deborah asked about this how do you play this against someone who has upended the board and strewn the pieces all over the room and what i mean is how does joe biden take on donald trump, what are your sort of thoughts and predictions about the debate and how you think he should tackle debating donald trump? >> i'm not sure there is much he can do at this point. we are now into what they call the authoritarian a

of the justice department's election crimes branch resigned in protest. today, there was still no indication that the general services administration will formally acknowledge biden victory and free up funding for transition work. at the state department, secretary mike pompeo was questioned about whether he is ready to engage with the biden transition team. >> there will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. we're ready. the world is watching what's taking place. we're going to count all the votes. >> alcindor: on another front, democratic committee chairs in the house released a statement today directing the white house and more than 50 other federal agencies to preserve documents related to congressional subpoenas and investigations. meanwhile, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell dismissed concerns that most g.o.p. lawmakers are refusing to publicly acknowledge joe biden as president-elect. >> at some point here, we'll find out, finally, who was certified in each of these states, and the electoral college will determine the winner, and that person will be sworn in on january 20. no reason for alarm. >> alcindor: on the senate floor,

one of the big questions for the incoming administration is who will be the justice department. here is a look at the possible contenders for attorney generalod evening. >> reporter: president-elect joe biden is yet to name the top law enforcement officer but he wants to run his department of justice, the complete opposite of the current one. >> i will not do what this president doesn't use the justice department as my vehicle to insist that something happen. >> reporter: to make those changes fox news has learned president-elect biden as a long list and is considering names from california attorney general xavier becerra to sally yates to former supreme court nominee merrick garland who fox news has learned some of the names gaining most attention are former homeland security adviser lisa monaco and yates, yates who served as attorney general for the first ten days of the trump administration was fired for refusing to enforce the president's travel ban on muslim majority countries, and may face opposition from republicans for signing the 2016 f isaf to surveilled trump campaign aide carter page. >> the department of justice submitted with

thinking about her role at the justice department in the early days of the trump administration as an obama hold over, and the questions about the collusion madness and generaln et cetera. that could be controversial. if joe biden is certified as the president i think it's reasonable that he's allowed to pick his team. especially among white house staff t never mind cabinet secretaries and so forth. and i think it would be nice if he sent a message as ed in the campaign that he wants to be the president for all americans. if he is sworn in, i think his staff showing at least some key iation from the far left would help send that message. just to be clear these are not conservatives. these are liberals he's appointing on. but they're not marks ifrts. >> harris: i wonder what the staffing choices, what happens inside the party with these sometimes verbally threatening, plaolitically threatening progressives versus loosdzing control of a chamber in 2022 and giving the other side a lot of political ammunition. thank you. new york governor cuomo is facing pressure from religious groups right now. they claim they're getting unfairly targeted with coronavirus restr

of republican attorneys general and governors. states led8 of those by texas. two individuals that serve as consultants in texas and lived there. you have the department of justice representing the trump administrationn this case all on one side arguing that the mandate is unconstitutional and that the entire rest of the aca should be invalid. host: i want to remind viewers that we will be covering the oral arguments at 10:00 a.m. eastern with live coverage on c-span and c-span radio. our guest is katie keith to talk about the aca. here is how we are setting aside the phone lines for this segment. if you are uninsured, that line is (202) 748-8001. for those that get employers insurance, (202) 748-8002. for all others, (202) 748-8003. by the, thatvered number is (202) 748-8000. publishedh was yesterday, a preview. , one of theith things that you talked about, the issues to listen for, do the challengers, a coalition of states, have standing to challenge the aca? tell us what standing is and if the court will make that decision? is one of these bedrock legal principles. you don't get to go to court for any reason. you can't file any lawsuit you want because you don't like something the government has

and from a criminal justice reform perspective as well as generally chicago police killing and terrorizing black and brown folks perspective over the eight years of his administrationthat would be a terrible insult to black folks to include rahm emanuel in a biden cabinet. but other than that, that would be a glaring mistake, but other than that i think that with president-elect biden and kamala harris' leadership, i expect the cabinet to look like america and that's an encouraging thing. >> anthony, briefly, we heard about this case being thrown out in pennsylvania with a scathing opinion from the judge that came down tonight basically just throwing deep, dark shade on the trump campaign. how much longer do you think that this is going to go on? this is a legal game. i don't know about you. i'm tired of playing. there's no factual basis for this. how much longer is this going to go on? >> they're running out of states to challenge in court. they only have 50 states to work with, so they're running out. hopefully it will be over soon. the one thing i will say bfrabo these conspiracy theories is they're all being shot down . if they weren't being vetted in court, th

administration's budget proposal for next year. you have attorney general bill barr setting up an interestingly-worded but really quite disquieting note about the department of justice stepping into an election before results are certified to look into voter fraud. that led to the resignation of the director of the election crimes branch who was a decorated justice department veteran. and then perhaps most worryingly, a day after firing defense secretary mark esper, trump has moved a series of loyalists into critical positions throughout the pentagon. as nbc news political editor benji sarlin pointed out the emerging argument of, yes, the president and his allies want to overturn an election and would do so in a heartbeat if at all possible but not sure they can is not reassuring for the future of democracy. at a certain point if you're trollingly pretending to be in a ko coup? when do you actually try a coup? >> the ability for the administration in any way by failure to recognize this -- our win does not change the dynamic at all in what we're able to -- i just think it's an embarrassment, quite frankly. the only thing that -- how can i say this tactfully? i think

administration. >> jimmy: can you say that again without breathing so heavily this time? attorney general bill barr has ordered the justice department to look into allegations of voter fraud. to be clear, there have been no credible allegations of fraud that would affect the outcome of the election in any of the states. none. this is happening at out of purchase spite. trump is like the guy who plays 20 plays of "achy breaky heart" on the juke house before he leaves the diner. ignore the biden transition team, they won't even sign the paperwork to get it going. there's a trump appointee who has to sign off, and so far, she's refusing to do so. her name is emily murphy. that's emily. you can call her karen if you like. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i have to say, put emily back up there for a second. i love when it we meet a new character in the last season of a show, you know? [ laughter ] this is just ridiculous. i think i have a solution to make everyone happy. all right. here's the deal. president trump, we're going to let you be president again. we're going to let you stay for another term. but you have to do it in yoga pants, okay? all four years. not under t

of state. do you think that justice will be same for both? prof. hult: that's a good question. biden notn about mr. being officially declared a president-elect by the general services administration is that biden does not have the assistance of the state department to facilitate those calls with heads of state. clearly heads of state have been issuing statements and trying to reach out to mr. biden. administration would prefer is they have the facilitation of the state department, that does not seem to be happening. the: from massachusetts on democrats line, russell, good morning. caller: good morning, how are you? know if this is so much under the criminality of the lady who is supposed to approve all this or if it's in the constitution. my question would be, what authority would be taken next to force her to sign this over? what it have to go to the courts? i don't see anything in the constitution requiring the gsa lady to sign over this to president biden. i worry about it because when we dysfunctionality in this society, i can tell you as a taxpayer and a voter, from what i have seen with this whole process played out i can tell you it put a lot of doubt in my the as far as n

obama administration kept an eye on state attorney general harris, her name had been mentioned for possible positions as the u.s. attorney general or even supreme court justice after the sudden death of antonin scalia, she declined interest in both and while a g and 2014 her close knit family expanded she married los angeles attorney douglas emhoff. she has made a lot of noise as california's junior senator on the high-profile judiciary and intelligence committees she has stood out in hearings using her skills as a prosecutor attorney general barr has the president or anyone at the white house ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone. >>i wouldn't i wouldn't. yes santa. trick could you repeat that question i would put it in a chamber dominated by republicans she has helped lead the fight for national police reform and the federal anti-lynching bill they're not marching in the streets for water down proposals been vocal on the need for more relief and critical of the white house handling of covid-19 i think there's been a other vacuum of leadership at this white house and supported impeachment of president trump i am in favor of beginning impeachment proceeding

obama administration kept an eye on state attorney general harris, her name had been mentioned for possible positions as the u.s. attorney general or even supreme court justice after the sudden death of antonin scalia, she declined interest in both and while a g and 2014 her close knit family expanded she married los angeles attorney to douglas emhoff. she has made a lot of noise as california's junior senator on the high-profile judiciary and intelligence committees she has stood out in hearings using her skills as a prosecutor attorney general barr has the president or anyone at the white house ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone. >>i wouldn't i wouldn't. yes santa. trick could you repeat that question i would put it in a chamber dominated by republicans she has helped lead the fight for national police reform and the federal anti-lynching bill they're not marching in the streets for water down proposals been vocal on the need for more relief and critical of the white house handling of covid-19 i think there's been a other vacuum of leadership at this white house and supported impeachment of president trump i am in favor of beginning impeachment proceed

administration of justice, to protect a deeply corrupt president. deeply compromised president. and history will not be kind to william barr. lest we forget some 30 years ago william barr was in attorney general two. under president bush the elder. and he managed the criminal convictions in criminal investigations and indictments of the senior bush administration it up including the secretary of defense. on missions pardon desk and christmas 1992 as he was about to leave office and bush pardoned them all. >> that was the final cover-up of the iran-contra investigation. and william barr did that. so he knows what he is doing. we have time for one or two more questions into the chat, please do so. one of the questions, that a think a lot of people are struggling with, deborah asked about this in the chat right no now. how do you play chess against someone who has upended strewn the pieces all over. and what i mean is, how does joe biden take on donald trump. what are your sort of thoughts and predictions about the debate tonight, and how do you think biden should tackle debating donald trump. swishy item that there's much to biden can do at this point. we deep into what the soviet author calls

point in an administration, yasmin, everyone and anyone who thinks they have a shot at a pardon will get a lawyer who believe this have the ear of the justice department, the attorney generalthe white house, this is the time to make your case. now from this point on until inauguration day when obviously president trump leaves his power to pardon. i would think all of the above would be on the table. the really quirky part of the process here is that president trump has never used a streamlined uniform pardon process. the pardon seems to be almost whimsical. he picks up seemingly random people who either come to his attention because famous people show up at the white house and suggest them. or in the case of flynn, perhaps, pardons a more sinister twist, pardons that seem to benefit the president personally. >> all right. so, let's talk about this possibility, and i actually spoke with congressman raja christian yesterday. who is on the committee. i wanted talk about the possibility of trump pardoning himself and what danny laid out the possibilities going forth. first, this idea of a federal pardon for himself that wouldn't eliminate cy vance, a manhattan d.a., still purs