president, ihe was at theited to some event white house and president bush introduced me to his son, george w. bush, a businessman and baseball owner at the white house. that is how long i go back with the bushes. host: you wrote this piece for the national journal, why george w. bush will not go to the gop convention. you write that the entire bush family has a strong dislike for donald trump. describe that. thet: this reminds me of relationship between the bush family and ross perot. he does not like them and they do not like him. ideological,l, temperamental, whatever you want to call it. relationshipe between donald trump and the bushes, it is much the same way. ofy do not have a history good relations. in this context, the bush family feels very strongly about a few things. the senior bush and barbara bush, all of them feel trump belittled their son and brother, teb bush, calling him jeb ligh and energy impaired, low energy jeb. understandably -- the bush's are understandably not. feel donald trump is probably a little too far out of the republican mainstream. it is just a lot of things. good

both living former republican presidents george bush 41 and george bush 43 revealing they have no plans to back trump this fall. we'll have george w. bush's former chief of star andy card on this show later this hour. you'll want to stay tuned for that. also on the agejengendagenda, t stakes. >> he wants somebody with washington experience and somebody who can help him in deal with the issues with foreign policy and defense policy. >> trump says that john kasich is rapidly rising on his list of potential running mates. what kasich is saying about that and who else is and isn't in the mix to join the trump ticket. that's also ahead. >>> and hillary clinton with a new ad taking dead aim at her likely general election foe. >> i'd like to punch him in the face. everything i say and do folks, i do. >> we'll have exclusive new details on hillary's plan to defeat the donald from kristen welker. >>> we begin with our top story. republicans grappling with the reality of trump. party leaders all over the map yesterday sending some very mixed signals about how they'll deal with their party's likely nominee. in new hampshire, for instance, se

under president george w. bush, even ambassador jobs got way more embarrassing than they usually are. >> to the 16 ambassadors bush has named so far, none is a career diplomat. ten are big contributors. donating more than $2 million total to the bush campaign. the inaugural and the florida recount. getting the plum paris embassy, san francisco investor howard leach. $389,000 to the bush campaign and inaugural. more than $1 million to the gop over the last ten years. doesn't even speak french. >> if you go to a country and don't have the language, you're really starting way behind. >> he doesn't even speak french. when george w. bush was elected president in 2000, he appointed as his ambassador to france a man who does not speak french. but who had given him a lot of money. his name is howard leach. howard leach has also just been named a presidential trustee of the trump victory fund of the republican national committee. this is not a long list but this is an amazing list. you want one more? here is donald trump sp

george w. bush were three presidents i worked for. i was a witness to how hard it is to be president of the united states and the tough decisions that have to be made. i want him to demonstrate a little sympathy, find some empathy and have the courage to be a leader that requires you to be the leader of all the people all the time without trying to be the most popular leader all the time. >> you are very familiar with george w. bush. does donald trump need to do that? could he do that? would it make a difference if he did that? >> there is room to run away from george w. bush because george w. bush still remains -- republicans are very divided about his candidacy. and -- his presidency. and one thing that made trump strong was the ambivalence that a lot of republicans feel about the bush presidency. a lot of unresolved issues. and there was -- another thing that made trump strong was the bush policy formula didn't work the way republicans wanted it to. lots of spending. big tax cuts. lots of migrati

>> in 2004 they came around to george w. bushver john kerry on issues of national security. if donald trump wants to focus in. he's more of a scatter shot candidate, but if she wanted to focus in on an issue set, focus in on national security. there's the greater potential to forge some agreement with the leader paul ryan around national security than there is around trade and entitlement reform. if they wanted to walk out of there with a couple of issues they could work on it's paul ryan's poverty agenda and the larger gop views on national security. it's the moment before this meeting starts they're still miles apart on both issues sets. >> if it truly is the g.o.t., the grand old trump party, then you'd say ryan has no choice but to get in line. >> it's an interesting conversation today. trump is talking about 2016 but ryan is thinking about 2020. and how close they can get on two differing viewpoints is going to tell the tale of whether they'll stand shoulder to shoulder but they'll not like it. >> joe in the first -- >> cert

we had never seen a photo of george w. bushaddress to the nation, which he gave from that elementary school. we'll move on here to 10:00 a.m. you'll remember the secret service wanting to the president back in the air, wanting him to be on air force one. there he is watching the video of the actual planes hitting those towers. most of those people are used to that michael moore video. there's the first look of the president watching that attack. we move on now to barksdale air force base in louisiana. they kept moving the president. there he is with his chief of staff, andrew card. it was shortly after this photo was taken, steve, where they decided to dump the press corps and leave them in louisiana for security reasons. the next one will be in the air on the way to nebraska. this is going to be an iconic photo. this is lieutenant colonel cindy wright, a member of the white house military office which is in charge of taking care of the president really as he travels around the country. we move on to 8:30 p.m. that night, the p

george w. bush. every president walks into office with this arrogance thinking i'm the smartest guy that's ever been here and the system always grinds him down. can you explain how james madison and hamilton were pretty smart guys and nobody is going to walk into washington, d.c., and take over. >> yeah, look. you're absolutely right, joe. madison divided the power and nobody can do everything they want to. and every president is sobered by the reality. all kinds of impediments. in today's politics when people are legitimately unhappy, the average person is about $3,000 or $4,000 a year worse off today than when president obama came to office, you can understand the anxiety and the desire for a kind of quick turn around. what i think and the reason i don't have any trouble supporting donald trump is i don't want four more years justice like the last eight. n i don't want hillary clinton -- >> but isn't hillary clinton somebody who has played the long game? isn't she should be that like trent would co

decriminalized marijuana in 2014. >>> newly released photos are giving us a new glimpse at president george w. bushn the minutes and hours after the september 11th terror attacks. president bush was visiting a florida elementary school when he learn of the attacks. the fot tos show him at a child's size table writing a speech he would give to the world moments later. the president then spent several hours crisscrossing the country on air force one, stopping at air bases in louisiana and neb be in before returning to the white house to give another address to the nation. >>> today ferguson, missouri will get a new police chief. moss will be sworn in as the new chief. he's seen here in his days with the miami police force. moss takes the helm of the troubled ferguson department. it's been a target of criticism and unrest following the shooting death of unarmed teenager michael brown in 2014. >>> the premiere of alberta, canada, will be in the fire ravaged town of ft. mcmurray to look at the damage. >> the evacuations are finally over. firefighters are getting the upper hand as the massive blaze shift

in 1999 george w. bushnd others started articulating a message that attracted conservative democrats and independents to me to become republicans. and h was proactive on immigration, education reform, things that really got my interest and millions of other to cross the bridge and support george w. bush. whatever trump's ideology is going to be formulated in this campaign and at the convention speech. a lot of things are getting attention. he's do-to-the left of republicans on trade. >> how about him saying that hillary is more likely to take us to war than he is. >> left of hillary on trade, left of hillary on foreign intervention. he's going to be the head of the republican party. >> there's two arguments you can make. you can make the intellectual argument which you've done beautifully. and i could make the argument. and there's the emotional argument. he's like the kid playing football or basketball. give me the ball, coach, i'm going to score. and that's what he's done since the beginning of this campa

brian: what is the motive if you are george w. bush? do you really want to go to war? you want to see americans killed over there? what's the reason? amy: it's a very good question why president george w. bush, why vice president cheney, why secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, why they committed so many innocent lives in this country. think about the soldiers who went to iraq, deeply committed to securing the united states, why were they sent to iraq? that is a very serious question. interestingly, one of the people who signed up to be in the military who wasn't ultimately, was edward snowden. one the great whistleblowers of our time. he ended up having -- his leg broken in training. he didn't go into the military. ended up working for the nsa. had a deep commitment to the united states and ended up showing it in a different way. brian: from your perspective, why do you think -- was don rumsfeld and george w. bush, were they evil people? amy: when you look at the actions they engaged in, were they evil actions, committing so many lives leading to loss of not only amer

history at the end of the george w. bush administration where these guys were fighting over who would be the next president while the american financial system decided to stop dumping buckets of kerosene and gasoline on their own head and instead move on to the fun part after that where they started playing with matches. and when indy mac exploded, it was one of the largest bank failures in u.s. history. it was actually the third largest bank failure in u.s. history. and indy mac did not collapse in a tidy way. it was really messy and chaotic, drug all those customers, people who had bank accounts and had been making deposits of their own money into their own accounts, those people were lining up to get their money out before their bank collapsed. at one point indy mac customers were withdrawing $100 million a day of cash. right up until the moment when the bank went kaput. and this is -- this was not one of those banks that was just collateral damage in the larger financial collapse. one of the reasons that indy mac went ea

23% is a far cry from 44% that supported george w. bush. the latino evangelical vote was instrumental in george w. bush because of commitment to life, commitment to marriage and ledge just liberty and immigration reform. the problem with donald j. trump is he engaged in rhetorical hyperbole and demagoguery that humiliated hispanic conservatives that may have embraced him otherwise. >> does that mean those on the fence before evangelical hispanics are now moving over to the democratic side of the ledger and that now that secretary clinton have those votes or can donald trump still get those votes. >> again, all things are possible, right? there is great angst. even on the other side there is great angst with hispanic evangelicals and what is perceived as a democratic party that is becoming more and more anti-christian and more and more secular. and not defending religious liberty. but in favor of immigration reform. so, can donald trump redeem the narrative with the hispanic community? i'm a pastor, do i believe in miracles but boy, this woul

george w. bush did and ronald reagan did, you can't be a counter puncher in the white house and there's a lot of times you have to wait. >> or you can't punch at all. you're annoyed at the media who say things about you that may not be true but you can't come after them for a year in every case. >> that's right but i think a lot of people will have seen that interviewed and be reassured that there's a loss combative trudonald trump thered more presidential. >> he didn't apologize. i mean here he said these things about you, about others. he should have 99 out of 100 people would have said this went out of control and i didn't want it to go like this and he set it up and he could have said i've learned from this, which is another thing you didn't hear, he said i'm sorry, i've learned from there and it shouldn't have happened. i think he's problematic as a candidate and a president because one thing about presidents is they all make mistakes and it's your ability to admit it's a mistake. >> he wouldn'

george h.w. bush to go to war against iraq without congressional consent. a decade later he would become a , leading critic of the george w. bush administration filing lawsuits related to guantanamo, torture, domestic surveillance and the 2003 invasion of iraq. , he also helped launch the group palestine legal to defend the rights of protesters in the u.s. calling for palestinian human rights. in recent years he was the chief , attorney for wikileaks founder julian assange and became a leading critic of the u.s. crackdown on whistleblowers including chelsea manning and , edward snowden. he also served as democracy now!'s attorney for many years and was the husband of karen ranucci, a longtime member of the democracy now! family. today we will spend the hour looking at the life and legacy of michael ratner. later we will be joined by three lawyers who worked closely with michael over the years but we begin with a speech he gave in 2007 when he was awarded the puffin/nation prize for creative citizenship. ver the st few yrs, i've beco a coin with a mana fren held syrn in his 80's -- aerian anhis 80's who wa war tortur, or i

host: one of those defining moments for george w. bush's was, of course, september 11, 2001. the george w. bush library has recently released 60 new images of president bush on the day of the attacks. so, if you are interested in that, you can go to the website. there it is on your screen. you can see these images that were released by the library. george h.w. bush -- you were with their family back in february. how is his health? guest: it is difficult. i should have brought a picture. nothing wrong with his mind, that's for certain. is sharp -- he is sharp mentally and intellectually, as he has ever been, but everybody knows the family has said many times he has parkinson's, which affects his legs. he really cannot walk without assistance. he is in a wheelchair most of the time. he has a little bit of trouble speaking in long, drawnout sentences, but he is hanging in there. i think he will be 92 in another month or so. and he was cheerful. he was gracious. he was incredibly generous in spirit. but his health is not what he would like it t

and so the people who are part of that decision, i mean george w. bushvited seven times. >> larry: yes. it's true. and ex-president. in fact, we have-- can we show that? i know we will-- yes, here are some of-- george w. bush, seven times, an ex-president for goodness sakes, ann coulter i understand. but john mccain, john mccain say war hero. >> i honestly want to know who is paying ann coulter to speak anywhere? other than-- . >> this is a bubble. this is a bubble. college has become a bubble. a lot of these schools, georgetown, boston college, this isn't happening at nas awe community college and-- . >> larry: john mccain was disinnighted with gnaw saw community college? >> yes, they would be so hyped. >> the point here is that they were invited. >> larry: yes. >> if they were not invited, of course, it's no issue. and if i was in charge, they would never have been invited. >> larry: it's clear, arianna, if you were running a college, it's clear. it's clear who is going to get invited. >> larry, would you have gotten invited. i don't know if you would

in the white house counsel's office under george w. bush. other appeals court judges, tom griffith of the d.c. circuit. some of those names were on the heritage foundation list that came out earlier this year that trump's people said they looked at. mark: there is a range of ages here, but it seems to me some of the people he left off are on the younger end of names that people consider. is that a big issue for conservatives, that they want the next republican president to nominate younger justices so they can stay on the bench for a longer time? pete: absolutely. i would say this is really not a federalist society list -- that has been one of their things, to put younger people, get them nominated to the courts of appeals. if you look at recent democratic nominees, they are all pretty young. of course, john roberts was young when he was nominated as well. that has been the trend -- to try to get younger justices on so they can serve longer. one surprising name on this list, one of the state supreme court justices on the list -- maybe he is

john: you don't have any doubt in his heart of hearts that george w. bush supported gay marriage?i think it was an evolution or him. he came to discover there were a lot of staffers around him and people who worked for him that were gay and he got enlightened about it over time. said the vice president thing matters a lot. if trump says i can get anyone i want to say yes, who should i pick? guest: i think the latest rumor i saw about bob corker is a sensible approach. but he could get anybody. magically, anyone i want will a yes. colin powell. mark: more than condoleezza rice? -- guest: that would be great too. mark: same thing with hillary clinton, she says i can get whoever i want, whose should she eschew mark -- who should she pick? guest: colin powell. the conventional route is to shore up your week this and do something that gives you geographic and ethnic diversity, ideological diversity, whatever it might be. in trump's case, there is value to the notion that going on conventional, which means going the bill clinton route and finding somebody who is a , ierick and unconvent

so, those were the over arching reasons that led the george w. bush administration after 911 to say, yes, we need to invade iraq, not because they pose a danger. it didn't pose a danger, but because a rock appeared to be a source of enormous opportunity to bring history to its intended destination. >> one of the things that continues to surprise me and concern me is how the american public really seems to be asleep , the fact that we are making such a major investment and escalation now in iraq as well afghanistan, syria and the only thing we seem to be really paying attention to is isis. are we putting too much emphasis on that and it does isis in your estimation represent a real extensional threat to the united states? >> no, it does not. i mean, what is isis? it's a movement at this point that-- around 25 thousand fighters. they are vile. they are vicious. they don't have a air force. they don't have a navy. they don't have math-- weapons of mass destruction. they don't have any significant resource base on which to draw up your good on the allies

ari fleischer, press secretary to president george w. bush. what would george w. bush say?hrough this on veterans day 2001 after 9/11, the plane took off from jfk and immediately crashed. it took five long hours, longest hours of my life because the press corps demanded, terrorism is terrorism. i wanted to address the press when i had the fact. donald trump and hillary clinton said this appeared to be terrorism, jumped the gun. we don't know yet and when you are running for president you should wait until the facts are in before you reach the conclusion especially one that says this is terrorism. martha: donald trump is resonating with the american public who are sick and tired of people pussyfooting around this issue. regardless whether or not this particular crash turns out to be terrorism, they are saying we need to call this what it is, islamic extremism. in other cases in the rest of the world, wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be mechanical and donald trump says not that time. >> too late. he said the plane was blown up and saying it was terrorism. if anybody d

. >> the two most recent republican presidents, george w. bush and george h. w. bush are also distancing themselves from donald trump. a spokesperson for bush 43 says has no plans to attend the party's national convention in july. a spokesperson for bush 41 says that age 91, president bush is retired from politics. 2012 gop nominee mitt romney also says he will not attend the con vehicles. romney has been an aggressive critic of donald trump. >> there are still some primary contests yet to be decided including ours here in california but donald trump and hillary clinton are acting as though they are already the nominees. fox correspondent joel waldman with the tough talk from campaign trail. >> reporter: the dog days of summer are still weeks away but the presidential dog fight has already be gun, hillary clinton calling donald trump everything from a las canon to a bully. the democratic front runner also unleashing on twitter. republicans agree donald trump is reckless, dangerous, and divisive. trump, the presumptive republican nominee for less than 48 hours retu

a 6-year-old, ellen degenres -- today, she took her venn tril quest george w. bush> there it goes. ♪ >> george w. bush. >> he can talk. just try to hide your mouth behind his head. >> all right. >> you want to try? >> sure. i have been trying to do this forever. >> i love mrs. bush's answer. that was really fun. >> i have to tell you, it was too cold to take a stroll. i take a guy from louisiana, willie from ""duck dynasty"." an exclusive trip on what it's like. >> where the meat comes from. >> identify by the time it comes from the street vender. >> squirrel? you don't have squirrel? not squirrel? you should try it. >> he says he grew up eating squirrel. >> it is great nutrition. a lot of protein. >> not a lot of eating in a squirrel, though. >> kimberly. >> we were at the white house press correspondents dinner this weekend. we missed you dana. brian was there. these are the couple shots. peter there. we did a little selfie. we saw the guy they call instagram star sensation. see him with the little hairdo? anyway, very cute. then we had to take pictures of our pil

. >> as you know, myitt romney, george bush and george w bush said that they're not going to go. look at the running mate talking this year. >> think of the personal qualities. the bullying, the greed, the showing off, the absurd theatrics. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. he is playing us for suckers. he gets a free ride to the white house, and we get a hat. >> do you share the views? >> look, here is what i think jake. you're going to see the takes -- it's time to go to channelling the anger and solutions. it's time to set aside the bully asking to set aside be littlement and appeal to what is good in us and lead a country and party to having a vase th majority of americans for picking a path. that's why i feel strong with the opportunity that we have in front of us but for this to work, our nominee i believe needs to unify the party for the party to be unified. >> do you think that's possible? >> we're not there right now. yeah, i think it's possible. we're not there right now. we have to get on with it. i think that we have to be honest with th

john: you don't have any doubt in his heart of hearts that george w. bush supported gay marriage?k it was an evolution or him. it was like a lot of people, became to discover there were a lot of staffers and people that work for him that were gay. mark: i could've told him that early on. [laughter] you said the vice president thing matters a lot. who should he pick? >> i think the latest rumor about bob corker, that is a sensible approach. mark: anybody? magically, anybody i want will say yes. >>: powell. colin powell. mark: more than condoleezza rice? guest: that would be great too. mark: same thing with hillary clinton, she says i can get whoever i want, who should she pick? >> same thing, colin powell. the conventional route is to and dop your weakness something that gives you geographic diversity, ethnic diversity, ideological diversity, whatever it might be, and then trumps case, there is some value to the notion of going unconventional, which means to go the bill clinton route, double. understrength, finds a but who is also a maverick, unconventional, so i think that there i

former president george w. bush also attended the opening ceremony. more than 500 athletes will compete this year, including 113 from the u.s. prince harry is the founder of the games, which are held for wounded veterans. this morning on "today," prince harry sits down with jenna bush hager, where he discusses the importance of the games and why they mean so much to him. >>> storm chasers in oklahoma captured this video of what they call an elephant trunk tornado. fortunately, no damage or injuries were reported. the area also saw heavy rains and golf ball sized hail. nbc meteorologist steve sosa is tracking this severe weather outbreak. good morning, steve. pretty wild stuff. >> yeah, wild stuff over the weekend. we'll be looking for more wild stuff this afternoon. eastern areas of texas, louisiana, arkansas, you're under the gun for severe weather later this afternoon. even this morning we've had loud thunderstorms roaring through northern texas. you're hearing it this morning outside of dallas-ft. worth, where we have a nasty line of thunderstorms.

former president george w. bush also attended the opening ceremony. over 500 athletes from 15 countries will compete in ten events this year including 113 competitors from the u.s. prince harry is a founder of the games which are held for wounded veterans. >>> let's get down to business with cnbc's landon dowdy. good morning. >> good morning. the markets will try to start the week on a positive note. on the back of friday's somewhat disappointing jobs report. the nasdaq down three weeks in a row for the first time since january. this week retail sales and inflation. >>> meanwhile, prices at the pump continue to rise. the average price of regular jumping 9 cents in the past two weeks to $2.27 a gallon. analysts say that's mostly due to higher oil prices. gas prices have risen 50 cents in the past three months. >>> and hip-hop star drake is topping the charts, selling more than a million copies of his new album "views" in less than a week. that's despite the album only being available on itunes. he used his radio show on apple's beats one to preview sev

the george w. bush people and so that's really sending the signal about what kind of republican he is. >> look who knocked him on your paper today? robert kagan, a reasonable neocon, and a hawk, who went after him in a big box column today, robert. really sticking it to him. >> and by the way, a lot of the other neocon types, the bill kristols and so on, they don't want to have anything to do with donald trump. >> they think hillary is going to -- at some point, the big story, when hillary swaps and grabs some of them. anyway, new national poll shows clinton with a six-point lead over trump. we've seen that as of late last night, 47-41. that's down from a ten-point lead a month ago. at least in this poll, trump is closing. meanwhile, there's evidence that the republican party is falling in line behind this. this is pretty astounding. 80% of republicans, four out of five, say their party leaders should support trump. joy, this is a coming home faster than i expected to the party. there are people histori

george w. bush was protested when he campaigned there's some people here that protest ted cruz and john kasich. and frankly there were over 6500 people signed up on facebook to protest this weekend. there weren't even a thousand. i'm from california. i have seen a lot of protests. i thought it was a pretty weak one, frankly. >> so you're saying this is to be expected. you want to play for you one of the first things trump said when e he took the stage at that convention. >> i was crossing the border but i got here. >> senator, he said hundreds of people were protesting the immigration policies right outside. you say the protests are to be expected. when trump says things like this, honestly, is he making your job of bringing new people to the republican party more difficult? >> i'm not going to comment on the candidates. the delegates thought he was joking. it was only after that they got a chance to see the video a that they knew he was telling the truth. let me tell you what the protesters did. th

the cold war test of the metal of every chief executive from harry truman to the first george w. bush -- george bush. knowng ahead, we cannot how many future occupants of the oval office will find their priorities held hostage to terrorists who confuse murder with martyrdom. but as andrew jackson's fate makes clear, it is the history yet to be written that may cause seemingly fixed presidential reputations to bounce around like corn in a popper. the older i get, the more suspicious i become of that academic game called ranking the presidents, if only because it presumes in the word of one scholar, "to measure the immeasurable." as the presidency involves, so do our measurements of successes and failures. talk about apples and oranges, the 19th century presidency is a totally different office than the 20th century, entirely different, much closer, it could be argued, to what the founders intended. have their chief function carrying out the legislature's wishes, someone who at the same time it have a predominant role in determining american foreign-policy, but certainly not someone who,

holocaust commission on appointment of george w. bushrael never had a stronger friend in the white house. i'm -- that was my request, and i'm absolutely certain that as we said in those years, if we don't remember, we absolutely will forget. you've got to forget a lot of things to thing it's a good thing to round up and deport 11 million people, most of them working in america in the middle of the night? not the united states. china maybe, not the united states. >> weld talked about why as a republican governor he was now running as a libertarian. >> even if you didn't win, a third party candidate can have a huge impact on the outcome of af presidential race. some people for instance believe ralph nader played a role in helping hurt al gore and elect george w. bush. as a former republican governor is that a concern? would you be comfortable with a prospect of possibly being blamed for tipping the election to the democrats? >> it's not a concern at all. i think we have our positions and we're going to press them. i'd like to ideally nudge

and george w. bush and former trump rival jeb bush all say they're skipping the convention in cleveland. all republican candidates signed a pledge this fall promising to support the eventual nominee. while trump negotiates politics in the republican party, he's focusing more on democrats and his likely general election challenger hillary clinton. trump is criticizing clinton for her vote in favor of the iraq war, and defending himself against her attacks he mistreats women by referencing president bill clinton's affairs. harris? >> and we'll pick it up there. hillary clinton shrugging off that sharp attack from donald trump. she says she will not run an ugly race. that was on a sunday show today. while she has no public campaign events scheduled today, rival bernie sanders is getting a jump on new jersey, holding a rally at rutgers university ahead of the state's delegate-rich primary next month. kristin fisher is live for us in washington. kristin, what did clinton say in that interview about donald tr

. >> the two most recent republican presidents, george w. bush and george h. w. bush are also distancing themselves from donald trump. a spokesperson for bush 43 says has no plans to attend the party's national convention in july. a spokesperson for bush 41 says that age 91, president bush is retired from

guest: it's a very good question, why president george w. bush, why vice president cheney, why secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, why they committed so many innocent lives in this country. think about the soldiers who went to iraq, deeply committed to securing the united states. why were they sent to iraq? that is a very serious question. you know, interestingly, one of the people who signed up to be in the military who ultimately wasn't was edward snowden. wuven the great whistle blowers of our time. he ended up having his legs broken in training and he didn't go into the military. ended up working with the n.s.a. but had a deep commitment to the united states and ended up showing it in a different way. host: from your perspective though why do you think, i mean, was don rumsfeld and george w. bush and paul wolf witnesses, were they evil people? guest: i mean, when you look at the actions they engaged in, were they evil actions? committing so many lives leading to the loss of not only american lives but lives in iraq and afghanistan? it's hor

george w. bushama and manage the transfer of power came up with the lessons learned from george w. bush's way that a transition out of office? >> guest: he started early. the president is what makes a difference when the president focuses on it. so in december 2005 end, he taught to josh goldman, chief of staff and said he wanted him to direct the transition and that is needed to be transition effort. and so you have working on -- but the departments about rules and regulations and and regulations and with the guidelines would be for them to hand them in. you have the president's management council meeting was clay johnson who's the deputy of management -- for management at omb, the gathering, the agency deputies to discuss what information they should be gathering. they met in the spring and then he put out a memorandum and i think july 8 and telling the departments and agencies what information they should gather. so all that information is thinking of what you have to do customarily. dalton did s

thatu have no doubts george w. bush have supported gay marriage as president even though he wasn't publicly for it? >> a lot of people -- like a lot of people he came to discover it. he got enlightened about overtime. >> you said the vice president thing matters a lot. if trump said to you i can get anybody i want to say yes, who should i pick? >> i think the latest rumor about bob corker, that is a sensible approach. >> anybody. trump says magically anybody will say yes. national security, >> given thecans? mess -- given his position on john mccain very sympathetic to donald trump. : powell. >> condoleezza rice. is thatresting thing the conventional route to go is to shore up their weakness. geographic diversity, ethnic diversity, geological diversity. there is some value to the notion going into the convention that goes the bill clinton route. i think they will put some value into looking into that for trump. .> mark mckinnon when we come back, a very special presentation from a friend of the show, jeff daniels. a fri

and george w. bush and former trump rival jeb bush say they're skipping july's republican convention in cleveland. trump has criticized jeb bush for failing to endorse him after all republican candidates signed a pledge this fall promising to support the eventual nominee. while trump negotiates politics in the republican party, he's focusing more on democrats and his likely general election challenger hillary clinton. trump is criticizing clinton for her vote in favor of the iraq war. and defending himself against her attacks he mistreats women. >>> hillary clinton is getting closer to the number of delegates she will finally need to lock down the democratic nomination. as she sets her sielghts on the general election. bernie sanders is showing no signs of retreating. the vermont senator about to hold a rally at rutgers university in new jersey. that's set to start about an hour from now as he tries to cut into mrs. clinton's delegate lead. and he vows to continue to the last primaries in california and

the all-time record is held by george w. bush from the republican primary held in the year 2000. heading into tonight, mr. trump was a little under 200,000 votes shy of george w. bush's all-time vote record. so we'll be watching the total vote tallies in both nebraska and west virginia tonight. we'll be watching the overall voter turnout to see what it's like. you expect voter turnout to drop once a race is effectively over, once a person's vote at the presidential level no longer helps decide some competitive presidential contest. but it's interesting. heading into west virginia in particular and less so in nebraska, local officials said today that they were still expecting a lot of people, if not a record number of people, to turn out. if turnout is sufficiently high, donald trump will become the new all-time record holder in american history in terms of most votes ever cast for anyone running for president in a republican primary. but remember, the beltway press still insists the republican party is not psyched at all about donald trump as their nominee, right? the beltway narr

joy arose: george w. bush? bush was dog to the extreme and barack obama is a cat to the extreme.rlie rose: what kind of community they reach out to it how much of it as their own decision-making. i had a strange reaction to goldberg's piece. the first reaction was positive. i like the president more. he is thoughtful. reason not tovery take action abroad. there is a reckoning with reality. but the disdain for the establishment and for all foreign policy advisor thinkers except for himself does smack of an unearned confidence sometimes i do doubt that. this is the worst thing to say in 2016 but i felt to be a believer that we need to fix the establishment. we have big problems. we need big institutions to run them. we need a really good state department. rose: on the agenda should be reforming establishments. david brooks: our institutions are fraying. congress is the prime example of an institution that has frayed because the norms of behavior the invisible codes have been ripped away. why talk about trump has a revolution in matters, the reason we have manners the reason we don'

george w. bushite house and went to live out his time in texas to cut brush ride cattle and ride the range. just kidding. he moved on from the crawford ranch we heard about so much, the ranch he moved into once he was president and once he wasn't president he ditched the ranch and went the gatd community in dallas. but regardless of where anyone of these presents went, the important part is he went. that's the system. the new president gets inaugurated and the old president leashes town. the last president who duh not leave town was woodrow wilson. he was the governor of new jersey. he got re-elected 100 years ago in 116 but by the time he left office he was debilitatingly ill. he god a bat stroke while in office and was basically infirm firm. he stayed three years in washington the last three year of his life after he left the white house but he was the last one and he was the president last elected a century ago. since then they all go. it's not writtenen in the rules somewhere. you don't have to

i worked for george w. bushand you are brought up in campaigns and in politics to talk a certain way to address , controversial things in a very kind of calm manner. and take the heat out of it. especially when you are a republican, you are taught to do that on every campaign you run. and donald trump took the rulebook and tossed it aside, and he brings more heat to an already controversial topic. there was something about that that is refreshing to a lot of americans, and there is something to other americans that is very disconcerting. and so, his candidacy inspires a lot of opinions, as you know. and as your show knows. and it is very different from the tone that ronald reagan took when he ran for the presidency three times and ran for a and was successful governor of california. it is something we haven't seen. we haven't seen somebody take this kind of approach and be so successful, but it is a little bit of a function of the times. it is a little bit of a function of how we watch tv with these reality tv s