these districts are more compact, they don't look as gerrymandered as the original gerrymand gerrymander, but with modern computers, it's easy for districts that don't divide counties and m municipality, to show how successful it is the cook political reporter reported the 2016 elections were the least competitive congressional elections since they have been keeping records sips the mid '80s, only 33 congressional districts out of 435 were classified as competitive, which meant by their definition that they were decided within a margin of plus or minus 10%. in my own state in georgia of 180 house seats, 80% did not have a general election opponent. why? because in one word, the filing fee for the other party to run a candidate in that district of 14 congressional districts in 2016, only five of the 14 did not have a general election opponent. why? because it wasn't worth the filing fee. so, if elections are to be democratic and justice ginsburg would notice that from others of the supreme court have said that partisan gerrymandering is incompatible with democratic principles. ... congres

the states gerrymandering. we are seeing again the we really have an opportunity in 2020 2022 really move the ball forward. to have hope for the first time we have fair districts and membership that reflects the members. the needs of the district rather than the needs of the political party. i think it's very important. i am very pleased to be here. this is a very exciting time. thank you for coming. let's get on with it. let's work on these cases and understand and educate ourselves. most members of congress do not understand. this is low on their priority list. our job is to educate them. to say this is not low on the priority list. that is why we are here. i will be supportive. >> i would like to turn to congressman blum . i can give you a few minutes. >> i am ready. i am told i have two minutes. >> i am sure we can give you a couple more. >> congressman blum is representing i what. he took a stand against partisan gerrymandering when he signed an amicus brief opposing republican gerrymandering in wisconsin.

gerrymandering is a serious subject. jokes.ed gerrymandering there weren't any. this must be serious stuff. i did find on this. back in 1812, the governor of assachusetts gerrymandered district in one of the a picture ofinted the gerrymandered district and they said this looks like a salamander. this made it all over the state of massachusetts. someone said no, that's not a salamander that's a gerrymandering is the governor's last name is jerry. if you are nothing else from what i say, now you know where gerrymandering comes from. and i'm from the first district of iowa. iowa is not gerrymandered and let me tell you briefly about my district. 2008, former president barack obama won my district by 18 points. in 2012 you wanted by 14 points. president trump in 2016 wanted by three points. it's not a gerrymandered district. i think if we had more district that could do that, back ago both her actions, it would be a much different government today. braley.cessor was bruce he's a democrat. his predecessor was a republican. i'm a republican. this is the type of distric

as the original gerrymander. but with modern computers, it is very easy to draw compact districts, contiguous districts, districts that don't divide counties and municipalities and still screw one political party or the other. and to show how successful it is, the cook political report reported that the 2016 elections were the least competitive congressional elections since they have been keeping records since the mid '80s. only 33 congressional districts out of 435 were classified as competitive, which meant by their definition, that they were decided within a margin of plus or minus 10%. in my own state in georgia, of 180 house seats, 80% did not have a general election opponent. why? because it wasn't worth the filing fee for the other party to run a candidate in that district. of 14 congressional districts in 2016, only five of the 14 did not have a general election opponent. why? because it wasn't worth the filing fee. so if elections could be democratic and justice ginsburg was notice that, that partisan ge

in the past it was gerrymandered, now we want to undo the gerrymander. beene left out no, we have deluded. -- now, we have been deluded, off the cloud we once had. if there is something wrong, the starting point. mr. kimberly: i think there are three things to say, and this is important, so i would like to be sure to hit all three. the first is our focus on the district was aor reflection of what this court said in carter against agate, having a court around which changes are made. that accurately describes the sixth district which has comprised northwest maryland around which changes have been made. the historical court has been preserved. the first is under the jingles --mework for approaching whether the target of minority is capable of forming -- is sufficiently numerous. >> we think probably the more consistent way to look at it is as i just described the first. is yours the only test you are proposing? in other political gerrymandering cases, do you see other tests being a possibility? mr. kimberly: in this lawsuit, this is the only. jus. kagan: i

gerrymandered districts are candidate-proof. the republicans gerrymandered that district to the point of illegality so that it would matter who the republican candidate was. what the republicans ran into in pennsylvania's 18th was a big, blue wave that wiped out the republican candidate. the republicans got wiped out, the president got wiped out, the republican president's family got wiped out. and professional republicans know that. privately they're all desperately worried about what happened in pennsylvania last night. this is what each party does when something like this happens. they can't publically admit they're panicked. it would be a company publically admitting they're panicked about the stock price going down and the stock price goes down more. many republicans saw this coming, including most of the republicans who decided not to run for reelection. a record number of ranking members in the house decided not to run for reelection. jeff flake, who has decided not to run for reelection, is more willing to publically fac

-- the notice itself is gerrymandered. it is not giving women all their options. the notification required says that the state will pay for abortion services, but it does not tell california women it will pay for pregnancy -- >> there are a lot of different things. i mean, the simple, basic thing if you can just say it as simply as possible. in law, as you well know, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. and so i think what's bothering, from these questions, people as it bothers me, there are pro-choice states, and there are pro-life states, all right? so if a pro-life state can tell a doctor you have to tell people about adoption, why can't a pro-choice state tell a doctor, a facility of whatever it is you have to tell people about abortion? see? that's simple. the one we've said you can make a doctor who is very pro-life tell her about abortion, okay? get it? and why don't we have to say, to keep sauces the same -- >> well, your honor. >> -- you're a pro-choice state, you can make these people tell them ab

he had before the gerrymandering won the seat by 28% of the vote. he lost it by 21% and the republicans say that violates the first amendment. they say people in that district are being punished because of their political views. because they supported the republican candidate and that's why they say the court should declare the redistricting unconstitutional. now i would say after today's argument, it seems pretty clear that a majority of the court believes what maryland did was too much partisanship, but the problem for the court is coming up with a test that's good not only for maryland, but in every other case where this issue comes up. he's worried that the court would be called upon to referee every redistricting from here on out. another sign that the court isn't close to answering this question is a suggestion made today by justice breyer. he said at one point, why don't we do this again next year. take the maryland case and the wisconsin case that we heard and another one from north carolina that's waiting in the wings and put them all toget

in 2012, after the gerrymander, he lost by 21 points. it's fundamentally counter democratic. >> the high court heard arguments today in marilyn's case. plaintiffs have a novel argument that the gerrymander violated the 14th amendment protection rights and first amendment equal speech rights, punishing voters for supporting the republican. >> if ever there were a violation of the first amendment, it is this. >> the justice appeared to be swayed that democrats were overly influenced by politics carving out the sixth district. justice elena kagan noting how much more evidence of partisan attempt could we need. chief justice roberts at accredited objection to the weight was withdrawn is that instant tap internal logic. they struggled behind when justice sotomayor called defining gerrymandering. >> is this an issue we can decide and resolve or is it something best left of the political branches? >> the court may be hesitant to act. in roughly two-thirds of the states, . this is the second gerrymander case the court has heard this term. the fi

that's been the big challenge in these political gerrymandering cases. the supreme court has in the past said maybe some day you could have a constitutional violation, but we don't know what the test is. so this is one of two cases the supreme court is hearing this term that offers a test. this one is the first amendment test. and the court heard it earlier in october, a case from wisconsin. it's holding that case very likely to hear this case as well, and then decide it. but if the supreme court were to say that you can go too far in partisan gerrymandering, then it would be a big change for politics in america because it would probably put the task of gerrymandering into nonpartisan commissions like some states have done, chris. >> and when will we get their decision? >> reporter: well, probably not until very late. this is a tough one, so i wouldn't predict that we'll get this decision much before the end of june, which is when this term ends. >> pete williams, thank you so much for that. >>> up negotiation, the lawyer for stormy daniels asking to dep

he lost it after the gerrymandering by 21% of the votes. this group is brought by republican voters from maryland who said that the redistricting thing violated their 1st amendment right. they say the state retaliated against them because of their political views. the state argued this is no standard at all. it's too vague and they say the supreme court if ruled in their favor, would look in the status quo and make it impossible to change the boundaries of a congress fall district. that's the key question, how much partisan shup is too much? the state heard earlier a state from wisconsin charging legislative boundaries now different challenges in different states, just one different in maryland will probably have to wait until late june to get the decision. >> i want to bring in now, gary especially, supreme court from atlanta and professor of law at the university of baltimore. pete laid out the nuts and bolts, explain to us why this is so significant for 2018 and beyond. >> it's unlikely whatever the court decide will have much impact in

you have a supreme court and many lower courts have found not just racial but partisan gerrymandering is illegal under the 14th amendment and constitution so we may see more of that. citizens united it will be hard to turn that around but don't forget to send united does not prohibit public financing of elections or prohibit all sorts of restrictions in terms of going back and forth from the private sector to the public sector or stop us from requiring full disclosure of every dollar.into a campaign for or against or where it comes from in the source of all of that. there is a whole list of things that can be done even with citizens united i would not be surprised if soon, already there is a groundswell to get the amendment to reverse citizens united and i haven't even talked about the electoral college yet. but a bunch of states have already agreed that if other states or just five more states agree to the interstate compact all of them will give all of their electoral votes to the winner of the general election then that makes the electoral college hill relevant and that is also on

the supre court takes on political gerrymandering. egyptians, facing a declining economy, head to the polls. and, much re. >> woodruff: returning to our lead story, the visit to china by north korea's leader kim jong-un. what should we make of the trip, and what does it mean for the u.s.? michael pillsbury has been advising the trump administration on korea. he is a senior fellow at the hudson institute, where he directs the center for chinesera gy. and, michael green was the n senior director for asiae national security council staff during the george w. bush. administrati he is now senior vice president atr asia at the center for strategic and intenal studies, and a professor at georgetown university. and gentlemen, we thank you both for being here. michael pillsbury, to you f do we know how this trip came about? >> i would say the short answer is no. senior intelligence official in south koretold the press a couple of days ago, "this is noh kim. is his sister." very embarrassing intelligence failure from south korea. a number of am

the gerrymandering of the statute. it begins by only regulated clinics that are licensed under section 1204. the is limited principally to non- profit community clinics. they are out of the statute to begin with. additionally among those non- profit clinics even though they several pregnant women among those that are principally given pregnancy services we require to expend those drugs the state has ended up with the result that only nonprofit pro-life pregnancy centers are required to post the notice. the notice itself is bias. for unlicensed clinics well have a lot of evidence with respect to the nature of the burden that would be imposed by the 48 font requirement there is some evidence that it might be like a $9,000 a month tax for advertisements but what we do about the lack of a record here. >> this court faced a similar situation where there was a detailed disclosure required was certain financial professions. they did not have a financial record we do simply read the statute and made comments. the rule is the f

if it has been gerrymandered that's a serious issue. if you have the city don't want to apply them generally just some people who speech we don't like. >> the disclosure is targeted at women who seek free care for pregnancy. not any particular viewpoint. clinics that provide free air low cost pregnancy care either once where they can be found in where the information is immediately useful. >> if you have a lot neutral within has a lot of crazy exemptions and when you apply the exemptions what you're left with is a strange pattern when it turns out just about the only clinics covered by this are pro-life clinics, do you think it's possible to infer this in that situation. >> yes. >> so let me ask you about the exemptions that are hard to understand. why does this apply only to clinics whose primary function is providing service to pregnant women. you can have a small clinic us it has 30 pregnant women come in among they could have a big clinic that has 100 pregnant women come in but it just so many of the things that pregnancy is not the

thanks a lot of sense now we get to gerrymandering a process in which lawmakers draw the district borders in some crazy way so that the democrats all the democrats are all the republicans are all the white people are all in one district the only sign of change on this front is in pennsylvania where the supreme court drew a much more competitive map to overturn republican gerrymandering but how about polling places that is that picks that all the recall in states like arizona hillary clinton hillary clinton the scene at least got some of the counties to cut the number of polling places by seventy percent which means a lot of voters just give up and go home or others stand in line for two hours and then give up and go home so what has changed. by change do you mean exactly the same because there's a lot of that a lot of a lot of that. now. we can't do one of the biggest ones superdelegates. they made it so we hillary had basically won forty percent of the nomination before a single vote could be cast before you or i or any normal american had cast a single vote hillary already won forty per

the united states supreme court delivered more crushing news to republicans who want to gerrymander theirtinued control of the house. today the court denied the latest republican request to block the new congressional map drawn by the pennsylvania supreme court. it is the second time that the supreme court has rejected a republican challenge over the new map. the cook political report tweeted today, under new lines dems have excellent chance to pick up three to five set seats in addition to connor lamb. the old lines one to three. a national poll shows more terrible news for republicans. democrats have a 10-point lead going into the midterm elections. 50% of voters want democrats in control of the congress, compared with 40% who want republicans in control. the democrat advantage has grown four points since january. it also shows that 60% of democrats have high interest in the meridterms compared with 54 of republicans with high interest in the midterms. david jolly joins us next to tell us how republicans are reacting to this news today. we just got married. we're all under one roof now.

the whole idea of gerrymandering -- i have been a victim of gerrymandering.ow i got here, iran against a 26 year incumbent that was gerrymandered. so i ran and i won anyway. i hear people talking about gerrymandering, people complaining because they have been gerrymandered out. it does make it more difficult. we need to make sure that the lines are drawn as effectively as they can. we just put forward a great plan that improves the districts in pennsylvania, but the supreme court stepped in and overstepped its bounds. they vetoed those maps and made their own maps, which are far worse than what they were complaining about. we have a great system in pennsylvania for drawing these maps. we have a 5% commission -- person commission. there was a bipartisan vote in the legislature. also, 139 of us voted for it 39 , democrats and 100 republicans. your elected representatives passed them by the supreme court vetoed them. shannon: thank you. mr. lamb. mr. lamb: when i started this campaign i made a promise that we did not have a voice in washington and i would give u

it goes to gerrymandering, i've been a victim of gerrymandering. i iran in against the 26 year incumbent in 76% district that was gerrymandered to keep a democrat in power. i iran and i want anyway to hear people talk about gerrymandering and complaining about how they can win because they been gerrymandered out, it does make it more difficult and we do need to make sure that the system that lines are drawn effectively as i can but we just put forth a great plan that improves the district someone in pennsylvania and the supreme court stepped in and overstepped its bounds and vetoed those maps into their own maps which are far worse than what they were complaining about. we have a great system in pennsylvania for chinese maps and a 5% commission and two republicans and two democrats in the spring for justice i voted on the current maps in those maps then come to legislator and is a bipartisan vote in the legislator 139 of us voted and 39 democrats and 100 republicans in the past those -- >> i have to cut you off. >> and supreme court below them. >>

that is one trend tremendous problem but gerrymandering is a killer for both parties now you have the vote of the supreme court looking at maryland and wisconsin. you called the district on -- you carve it out so your party will win. that forces the republican to be the most active people in the primaries to go to the right democrats go to the left and make all sorts of commitments that may come to washington and they turn compromise into a four letter word. >> money has done that are gerrymandering? >> money is another there is a whole section i think is the root of political evil that then if you are a billionaire we have the single issue world in which i don't care what you do about anything else but be pro-choice and if you do that i will give you a few million dollars. the pro-life or before gun control or against it or have this position on the environment and there is a whole section on single issues that fractures congress because then you get people in there after they get the money and they have been bought. >> absolutely and we have to deal with these things. the other syst

in some ways this is a cut and dry case of gerrymandering. his deposition in a lawsuit challenging maryland's newly redrawn sixth congressional district former governor martin o'malley admitted it he said it was my hope to create a district where the people would be more likely to elect a democrat than a republican. well, he succeeded. the sixth district and far western rural maryland had been held by republican roscoe bartlett for 2 o0 years. after the 2010 census o'malley and democrats who dominated the maryland general assembly said about redrawing the district eliminating carroll county and frederick county and including a heavily democratic part of montgomery county outside of d.c. that contained nearly three times the population as the rest of the district. the democrat john delaney won the seat in 2012 and has held it ever since. today the supreme court is deciding what to do about this admittedly blatant manipulation of the district. and how far a court should go in intervening in redistricting. >> the justices have been concerned abo

and partisan gerrymandering.it comes to voters of color, there's overlap considering the vast majority of americans are democratic voters. they're packed in these particular districts which leaves all these other districts spread out where republicans have a distinct advantage. and what's so important about this question about citizenship is we already know that communities of color do not like interacting with the state on a particular level in these institutional mechanisms. immigrant communities also don't like interacting with the state and these questions coming into your home. there are so many families that are mixed status households where you may be documented but your sister or your spouse may not be. those people are less likely to fill out the census. what we saw the last time we took the census, was queens reported they lost you know, members of the borough which we know for a fact is not true. we also know queens is one of the most diverse and ethnically immigrant diverse boroughs in the country. >>

gerrymandering is always done by the majority party and they always do it to help themselves. the supreme court has never said that's unconstitutional. so the question is when would it cross a constitutional line. now the republican challengers from maryland say it crosses the line in this case in redrawing the sixth district which has been held for 20 years by a republican named roscoe bartlett. in 2011 the state intentionally drew it to give the democrats that seat. the challengers say that violates the first amendment because it punishes them for their political views supporting a republican candidate in the past. so one question is how can you tell when there's too much partisanship. and on that, a majority of the supreme court seems today to say it is pretty clear that there was too much partisanship in this case. justice elena kagan said the question is always how much is too much. this she said is too much. justice stephen breyer seemed to agree saying that's true but when are we going to have a case that's this clear? that is the second problem. if you decide it is unc

the first is gerrymandering. districts have become increasingly safe and look like torah have declined. however, the actiq demo can sense is is that gerrymandering measures from a little bit to not at all. first the obvious counterpoints of the senate and at large congressional district which has experienced polarization but no redistricting. they show that it's due to the differences in how they represent moderate districts rather than an increase in extreme partisan district. the second most commonly cited culprit points to primary election. the logic is similar. they suggest the heart of competition is that the primary stage and they try to maximize votes from extreme party activists. it's difficult to find support linking party primaries with polarization. there's little evidence that the introduction of it the level of primary turnout is associated with partisan political is asian. close primary said those in which only party members can vote they don't produce more extreme candidates than open primaries. a

to be.it used but they gerrymandered ohio so radically that they cut the whole lower two thirds of the county out of our district. they went from the heart of cleveland through the rain. amherst is completely cut off. but many people who live in amherst work in the rain at the plant. caller: absolutely. this is what i want to ask. a lot of the industry from lorraine has an effect on grade. because people don't think about it but the great lakes are a great source of shipping. do as farhe tariffs as the jobs that aren't actual steel jobs that are related to the shipping of the steel? a really good point how interconnected our production system is.ution i represent several ports on the great lakes. vital to our country steel industry because a lot of our or comes and is shipped down through gary and cleveland and lorraine. rail industry is related to it. the largest rail center in the country and we have massive trucking countries to serve our automotive industry. so we do have the most highly industrialized platform in the country in our region. and it is an intermodal mix. people come

. >> and now with the more democratic leaning demographics there because of gerrymandering, changinge map, there will be a change, don't you think? >> i agree. i mean, i think he summed up the analysis as succinctly as he could. but i agree -- the person with the money wins an election because you have more name recognition because you can spend more on adds. and it's gonna be a sprint between now and -- what is it? three months? a sprint. you can't raise more money if you already have a $4 million war chest. >> but the unfortunate thing is now that the district has been redefined, it's not a competitive district anymore, so the race now is only between democrats. and it really should be -- i think that the district was better served before when you had a real race. you may disagree, but, you know, there was a race between a republican and a democrat before. so now it's just an internal race. it's kind of the gerrymandering or the judicial-mandering that the supreme court did has now changed that to being a plus-13, which means it's virtually unwinnable by a republican. which is unfo

look, gerrymandering makes us dumber, makes our politics dumber. what it does, it incentivizes extremism. there's no question about that. from a cultural sociological point of view, gerrymandering has made american politics much, much stupider. democrats' claims that it makes them a minority are probably not groundless but far far overstated. democrats claim the cause of the republican majority in the house and persistent republican majority since 2006 and 2010 is because of gerrymandering broadly overstates the importance of it in flipping seats. so it makes us dumber, but it doesn't make us republican. >> dana: it does seem to be more of an excuse of procedure rather than figuring out a message and policy that's more attractive and persuasive for voters that you are trying to reach. >> and also having the courage to let people run in the districts as they are. we go back to the conor lamb example in pennsylvania, or the example in virginia or alabama. there are many of them. democrat, if they are willing to let their candidates run where their di

. >> i said, "you know everyone, and i mean everyone, says gerrymander."r ] >> seth: well, once again -- >> once again -- >> seth: your nana -- >> nana a million, you zero. [ applause ] >> seth: yeah. nana brings the fact. >> she also then said -- i was talking to her on the phone today about it, you know, just getting the details. she goes, "when are you rehearsing this?" i said, "well, it is 4:00 now. and i'll be there in a few hours. so we're never going to rehearse this." [ laughter ] she said, "you just go on television with this?" i said, "yeah, yeah, you okay with that?" she goes, "oh, i'm fine with it." [ laughter ] and yes, she was very, very excited. >> seth: well i'm very excited to ask him all about this. >> now -- sorry, real quick. her brother and father were republican congressmen. >> seth: yeah. >> this seat has gone back and forth, republican and democrat. my grandmother with republican family, has grown up republican. i'm making far more efforts to explain it to all of you than she ever would. [ laughter ] she would go, "i'm a republican.

trump administration trying to rig the 2020 census to protect gerrymandering by intimidating people. some states will unfairly lose funds. >> i covered the census for years. it is intended to count all residents. to count everyone in the country in the districts and know who is where. i see the need to know who in the country is illegal. how many people. >> absolutely a reason we need to know. >> until now, asking that question has been driving people underground. >> will they answer? >>> the dow jumped 669 points on trade war fears cool. the third biggest point gain ever. it is a big rebound from the recent correction mode. 10% fall from the all-time high. nasdaq and s&p 500 on a rally. that is a big move yesterday. not one of the best days for the s&p. all of this set the tone for global stocks. europe opened higher. nikkei and tokyo gaining 2%. u.s. and china starting trade talks. they are living and dying by every trade headline. the tariffs you caused the worst week in two years. investors feared a trade war. that may be unreasonable. a clash is unreasonable. that could slow gro

we still have structures of gerrymandering, electoral -- things like that, but i read this morning about marine le pen and they -- her party only has 8% representation. so, i mean, i think it's important to be aware of this and stand up and resist it, but i also don't want us to get so depressed to think that somehow the forces of darkness are winning in this -- i think we are farther ahead than we think. in five, ten years, you know -- i talk about this -- i don't want to monopolize lawsuit when we come to it i'll explain more why i have reason for hope. todd. >> todd you brought up something? your books, talking about racial minorities and religious meyers and you said, what happens if all ol' the read right-hand foreign? for example, if people from phoenix come to tucson or somewhere else to flee the heat because it -- climate-wise it's cooler here. what happens when the refugees look like us? >> i like the phoenix joke there. >> i think i stole that from you but i'ing take credit for it. >> well, yeah, i do -- i look at climate change and obviously climate change on -- while it does

. >> i was a victim of gerrymandering. in a 76% democrat district that was gerrymandered to keep a democrat in power. i ran and won. when i hear about it and complaining they can't win because they have been gerrymandered out. it makes it difficult. we need to make sure the system that the lines are drawn as effectively as we can. we put forth a great plan that improved the district in pennsylvania. but the supreme court stepped in and over stepped and vetoed the maps and drew their own which was far worst than what they were complaining b. we have a great system in pennsylvania. a five-person commission. i voted on the current maps. those maps come to the legislature. it was a bipartisan vote in the legislation tur. 139 of us voted, 39 democrats and 100 republicans. >> i have to cut you off. >> the supreme court vetoed them. >> we're going to go to mr. lamb on this. >> i made a promise to the voters in the 18th district that we didn't have a voice in washington and i would give us the voice. i have campaigned for the vote

>> well, it used to b and when they gerrymandered ohio so radically about eight years ago, they cut the whole lower two-thirds of lorain county out of our district can and extended the district from the heart of cleveland all across the northern part of ohio through lor rain, sundusky and toledo and so i have parts of the number of communities, but amherst was kcompletely cut out however, there are many people who live in am hearst who work in the steel plants at lor rain. >> >> caller: absolutely. absolu absolutely, and this is what i want to ask and nobody has brought it up at all. a lot of the industry from lor rain has effects on the shipping, because people don't think about it, but the great lakes are a great source of shipping. what do the tariffs do as far as the jobs that aren't actual steel jobs, but do relate to the shipping of the steel -- >> okay. so thank you very much. >> that is a really good point how interconnected our production and distribution system is. i represent several ports on the great lake, and we have are the sue lock that is vital to the steel industry, be

and also the most sophisticated and radical gerrymander of our history to make sure that the rent-controlled states there shooting their voters. they're grossly misrepresented the electorate that just a question of ideas but of fact that rules have been changed. look at wisconsin. nobody would've predicted it would of went for donald trump the tip because the units lost their power et cetera. we have to pay attention to this rule change of the ultimate one they're pushing for is the constitutional convention. we have never had a state convening convention but these guys while we been watching the distracting chief have lined up 28 states needed there's no controls on on their six republican-controlled states that have not yet authorize the convention which gets us to 34. i believe the $1.5 trillion deficit the tax scam that deficit will be the reason they will use to convene to get the remaining six states sandel pass a balanced budget amendment until they realize social security would be undermined, anything you care about. this is radical rules change. >> can i have for a slightly differen

. >> is that why the democrats have pushed back by gerrymandering and redistricting? >> we'd love to redistrict across the country, but we don't have the power. >> these claims of a blue tidal wave are probably overblown. right now the democrats are complaining about gerrymandering, but the real threat is chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, out of touch with voters. i still think the democrats could take back the house, because the base is mobilized, because they're constantly told that president is a bigot. i think it will be an uphill battle for democrats, but i don't think it's out of the question for them to take back the house. >> wow. that is really interesting. you both went uphill battle. >> democrats are certainly fighting back. >> can i ask you about chuck schumer and me and nancy pelosi. some democrats are denying the power of pelosi and schumer, particularly in district 18, where they'll see redrawing of lines and things could be different in november after the special election where the kind of gop-like democrat won. what do you do with the old guard? by old, i

saccone: i have been a victim of gerrymandering. ran against a 26 year incumbent that was gerrymandered. anyway.d i won it does make it more difficult. and i won anyway. it does make it more difficult. the supreme court stepped in and overstepped its bounds. they vetoed those maps and through their own maps, which are far worse than what they were complaining about. we have a great system in pennsylvania for drawing these maps. i voted on the current maps. there was a bipartisan vote in the legislature. 39 democrats and 100 republicans. the supreme court vetoed them. when i started this campaign i made a promise that we did not have a vote -- voice in washington and i would give us that voice. that is who i would like to serve. i do not care where they draw the lines. we will shake that out in court. the current lines we have are strangely shaped and were drawn by a computer program called .edknapp in harrisburg i have happy the court has stepped in and taken a look at it. the court has stepped in and taken a look at it. amendmentth

it's very gerrymandered. we may face that in a different situation, but not here. >> i'll add from my civil rights background, if you have a discriminatory background, or animus, and you consciously segregate, like in brown versus the board of education, but they do the same thing, they call it a neighborhood plan, or shut down, in one case, all the pools. the supreme court saw the pattern there. so, one, you can sometimes cure an unconstitutional viewpoint-based action with a neutral law. but once the animus or the discriminatory intent is clear, you still run some problems. if that's what you're really trying to do through another means. >> my name is jack guice. if the state says, look, we're not exactly pro-union, but they can be annoying. we're going to pay you less because you have no bargaining power, is that okay? that's a possibility, at least in the abstract. >> right now in the states with the mandatory fees, the union is by law the exclusive representative of all the workers, whether they're membe

yeah okay i think -- when does that district go away doesn't it go away from gerrymandering, won't henly be seated for a year? do you know? >> i do not. john harwood does. >> oh, yeah. we'll talk nec and who ends up there. did you see there's a potential -- larry kudlow possibility as a leading candidate. >> here's our graphic. >> larry >> yeah. >> and greg ippon will talk about how gary cohn was the last adult in the room. the adults are always like the democrats, then the children like wilbur ross and navarro and trump are over there like throwing stuff having food fights then the adults, the democrats are like, hey. i don't know >> only on some pages, joe >> no, in the style guide of the "new york times," adults in the room refers to just democrats. >> well, it's a big show we'll see you in a bit thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> going to a break last chance to guess the mystery chart. 32 years ago today this little company went public at -- good job with the music $21 a share. we'll have good guesses and reveal the mystery chart coming up after the break successful people ha

to be.it used but they gerrymandered ohio so radically that they cut the whole lower two thirds of the county out of our district. they went from the heart of cleveland through the rain.

he is working against gerrymandering. he has authored a piece of legislation to open up our elections. and something surprising about john, it is not that he is the first democrat to announce for president this time around. it is not that he would be the first member of the house to serve as president in a long time. it is that he is the only ceo of a publicly held company that serves in the house of representatives. he is a democrat who is a successful businessman. entrepreneur of the year according to ernst and young. one of the 50 world's greatest leaders, according to fortune. they must have really good scouts. he went to georgetown university. for all of you, he and his wife, april, have reinvested back in georgetown university in public service. education and internships and experience there. he has been a member of the board of georgetown, one of the lessons here is you ought to go to georgetown, but -- [laughter] but he's active in his parish, little flower. supporter of catholic charities. he is most known i supp

the first of these is gerrymandering. the basic logic as the districts have become increasingly safe electoral constitution has declined and only the conservative republicans and liberal democrats can win a conservative and liberal district. however, the academic consensus is the gerrymandering matter from anywhere from a little bit to not at all. first, they are the obvious counterpoint of the senate and at-large congressional district which is experienced polarization as well but of course no redistricting. moreover, it shows polarization is due to the difference of how republicans and democrats represent moderate districts rather than an increase in the number of extreme partisan districts. the second point to primary elections. they try to maximize from extreme party actors there is little evidence that the introduction, the level of primary turnout and that the threat of primary competition is associated with partisan polarization in the rollcall voting. they do not produce more extreme candidates then both of the pr

henry convinced monroe, who had moderately opposed ratification, to run against madison any gerrymandered district, which included anti-federal districts including the one monroe was from. so in the race between the two of them that followed, it's astonishing monroe did this, but he did. it is a very hard-fought bitter winter when they would get these long speeches in the freezing cold. madison used to tell stories about this when he got frostbite on his nose fighting back any type to point to the tip of his nose. so monroe supporters made public argument that madison believed the constitution was as perfect as any human creation never any claim he said this in the virginia ratifying in that the records hadn't yet been published. he had never been said that his constitution was the best one that humans and it was the sort of a miracle, but he thought it. he had to get votes of anti-federalist who had opposed ratification. the way he did that was to promise his constituents that he would deliver a bill of rights. once he went into congress, nobody else was interested in the bill of rights,

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we have seen the most radical gerrymander in the history to miss represent the role of the electorate so that they're choosing the voters rather than voters choosing the elected officials. we've seen the destruction of labor units without people campaigning on it. then taken measures to undermine collective power among working people. there's a series of what they have called interrelated plays to make liberty self reinforcing. that's what i told the story of help readers understand. >> if you like to talk with duke professor nancy mclean about her book democracy and change, you can call in. we will take your calls in just a minute. you mentioned james buchanan twice. he is a major figure in your book. who was he? >> guest: if you not heard of him don't feel bad. i hadn't either. i was following another story, the story of the state of virginia massive resistance. >> that's the book you were originally writing? >> yes. >> intellect to privatize with the federal court. to the process i came across a report by james buchanan that intrigued me. and i started following his trail. that led

they are leaving in place that new pennsylvania congressional map which was addressing gerrymandering. the new map will be on the books for the 2018 midterms. that's one more story we're clocking. i'll see you tomorrow for our special on "the beat." i hope you tune in for that. "hardball with chris matthews" starts now. >>> mano a mano. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. president trump has unveiled a new, more combative approach towards the investigation of his presidential campaign. for the first time singling robert mueller by name. it all began late friday night when attorney general jeff session fired deputy fbi director andrew mccabe less than two days before mccabe would become eligible for full pension benefits. president trump, who has publicly attacked mccabe since last summer celebrated mccabe's abrupt termination saying on twitter, andrew mccabe fired, a great day for the hardworking men and women of the fbi, a great day for democracy. sanctimonious james comey was his boss and made mccabe look like a choir boy. he knew all about the lie

that's because we have already talked about this morning the money from these industries but also gerrymandering. how elected officials are choosing their voters rather than voters choosing their representative. there is a lack of responsiveness because of the money and because frankly, our elections just have not been as competitive as they should be or as we hope that they would be in american democracy where the power of ideas with -- win, not the wealth and power that comes with money. host: bob is in jackson, tennessee. republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i have a question for your guest. but i member of the nra am for background checks 100%. i think we ought to get rid of some of these assault rifles. i realize that. let's say we take every gun out of this country and know for a fact there is none. how long will it take the drug cartels and criminals such as that to refinish this country weeks?ns in a matter of to the drug cartels is pocket change. how many illegal weapons could they bring in with that amount of? -- money? bringsi think the caller up a point here. you're a memb