they're urging ruth bader ginsberg to resign now. we'll explain. presidential candidate. >> they are very much in the early veteranning process of the determining which of these candidates they want to back. they don't want to jump on somebody too early. they want to say that their policies are in line with their values. and also one of the candidates who has a lot of name recognition as you mentioned but has not spent a lot of time in iowa is former secretary of state hillary clinton. now that's about to change, david. secretary clinton is scheduled to arrive here in iowa this weekend. she'll be kicking off a number of events. she'll be traveling around the state. and they say this is where their campaign will kick off. >> the state's republican party decided today to end the iowa straw poll. it was once a staple for republican candidates. michael shure joins us live from los angeles. what led to the iowa straw poll's demise? >> what led to it, david was the fact that nobody was going to come. they were going to throw a party this no one was going

as it stands with ginsberg the court has four retirable votes. to the right, led by chief justice roberts, there are four reliable conservatives and the wildcard in anthony kennedy. appointed by ronald regan, kennedy has been the swing vote on some of the biggest 5-4 decisions. he cast the deciding vote in case upolding abortion employing affirmative action and giving the 2000 presidential election to george w. bush. >> if justice ginsberg retired and a republican president replaced her with a conservative there would be in almost all cases five conservative votes before you get to justice kennedy. >> reporter: justice ginsberg was panted by president rooeg jan, and has seemed tired. at this year's state of the union speech, she seemed to fall asleep. she blamed the episode on a few glasses of wine before the event. she told friends and interviewers, that despite heath scarce, she is feeling great. >> i think i can do this job as long as i can do it full steam. when i begin to slow down i think i will know. hasn't happened yet. >> reporter: the l

ginsberg comes before scalia alphabetically so why is it scalia-ginsberg.know how important seniority is in our work place. so -- >> i'm getting a sense of that. >> so scalia was appointed some years before ginsberg so the opera is scalia ginsberg. >> there is also going to be a biography of you in the near future called the notorious rbg, life and times of ruth bader ginsberg. and then there is also a bio pick scheduled called on the basis of sex with nathalie portman starring as you. are you in on these projects? do you know much about them? are you cooperative conspirator? >> i can't claim credit for but i like it, and so do my grandchildren. on the basis of sex is that what the biopic is called? this is how it began. i have a nephew, the son of my husband's sister who is a script writer. and he asked if he could write a script about a case in which marty and i were involved in 1971. and i said yes, if you would like to spend your time doing that. the case is interesting because it was the case i hoped would be paired with wrigley reed as the turning poi

thank you for being here on the bus saturday afternoon and especially thank you to justice ginsberg it is a busy time of the court so thank you for spending a few moments with us here. so that your finishing your 22nd term and a people have noticed in recent years you have the president's you have a huge vienna-based everywhere you go. [cheers and applause] people call you a rock star and the icon there is an opera about you and justice scalia. [laughter] there is the emoticon and t-shirts with the notorious rbg and then my personal favorite you cannot spell truth without roofs. [cheers and applause] -- ruth then even those that have a tattoo of your likeness. [laughter] that is loved. all of this is unusual for a supreme court justice and justice the league gets that battle think anybody has his tattooed not even at the federalist society. [laughter] so i want to start by asking how did this happen? [laughter] >> it is amazing. i into read it to a student who started the notorious rbg at first i did not know what to make of it because i did not know who the jury is a b i g was. [laugh

michael: partly because of gary ginsberg, who was always having a fight with roger.i do not think they wanted roger to weedle, to find his way into the story of this book. anyway, i agree to that. i only reluctantly did because i actually like roger a great d eal. charlie: did he find his way into the book? michael: only from rupert who said unkind things about roger. that let roger go back to rupert and yell at him and get more money. charlie: roger yells at rupert. michael: yelling is overstated. he goes -- i don't know. charlie: i don't think so. michael: they come to, they have their way of negotiating. charlie: and so the book was published. everybody gets a chance to read it. was it a bestseller? i don't remember. michael: yes. charlie: and they were angry because it was too personal. they felt it was a book about "the wall street journal" and it turned out to be a book about rupert. michael: yes. charlie: and the relationship today between you and rupert? michael: terrible. i ran into them in newscorp. i came down in the elevator. the elevator was empty. the d

when the court heard the argument, justice ginsberg seems to like the citizen committee. >> what happensre wrong and the court says we have to get politicians involved one more time. >> that's certainly a possibility, as we know. if that were to happen, in california, things would move very quickly. the state legislature would immediately begin drawing new districts and would try to have them in place for the 2016 congressional elections. >>> the ruling on friday came down at 7:00, same thing. >> same thing. we are just a few minutes away from getting the final three decisions. >> you'll be glued watching. >> absolutely, like this. >>> and one other note from the supreme court, a short time justices have decided they will hear a case centering around the use of affirmative action. an admission for the second time. >>> we'll take it away now. the maker of turbo tax is out canning hundreds of jobs intuit of mountain view is laying off 5% of the work force, about 400 employees. mountain view company employs 8000 people word wide. not clear where the layoffs are happening. >>> cancer has cla

justice antonin scalia called his colleague goldberg instead of ginsberg. it happened while announcing a dissension. he didn't realize the mistake until he was informed. he apologized. the two are close friends outside the court. which company has in the u.s. has the best reputation? according to the survey is amazon. the survey of americans asked about innovation satisfaction and workplace expectations. amazon scored the highest. ranking high also were lego and kellogg. at the bottom mcdonald's. still ahead "abc7 news at 6:00" -- jeb bush officially launches his presidential bid. we look at the landscape. in the weather, heat and humidity may be followed by storms. timeline on the possible severe weather coming up. >> the nationals hope the pitching staff plays follow the leader in tampa. lebron is on the wrong end of the series so far. but will he walk away with the trophy win or lose? we talk about it "abc7 news at 6:00". maureen: today, it was just a matter-of time and jeb bush made it official. we look at the chances while hillary clinton goes about he

ginsberg: can congress substitute its commission for the state legislature? clement: i don't think that congress would say that, at the state level, we are going to redelegate this to the state commissions or two independent commissions. if congress wants to do it at the federal level and set up a federal commission, i think that would be a very different issue. obviously, congress has power under a separate subclause. ginsberg: if congress does the same thing that arizona has done in saying that that is the way federal elections will be held. clement: i don't think they can simply bless what arizona has done. i think that would undermine the decisions the framers had made in the first clause. we are actually going to take those commission districts and make them our own and impose them. kennedy: if it is the latter, it can only be a commission. clement: what we object to is the permanent resting of authority from the state legislature -- justice kennedy: there is a law that says a portion of the commission must submit its proposal to the legislature and the

by one i hate the fact that the deloris park is reportable water it should be recycled water if ginsberg were here he would say we would love to do that but we don't have it -- move aggressively even if it's one step at a time addressing needs thank you. >> thank you. >> i have a couple of questions quickly i wanted to know the nonportable water program you spent time talking about the future you would like to go into for san pran what is the cost associated to get us to that level of using

for example allen ginsberg, the great poet who is gay, is a big supporter of the cuban revolution. he went and was thrown out for speaking out for gay rights in 1965. we in north america realized that. that is really an outrageous. people go see for themselves but it was a much more open society that appears from what i wrote if you took it literally. >> what could we have done different in the last 55 years? >> i interviewed many national security officials in several administrations because i was puzzled. since we have relations with almost everybody what was the difficulty here. on the small level there was a division within our administration, people who were more hawkish and wanted to strangle them thinking they would succeed. and the way to go, open up trade or dialogue. each time we got close, our administration sabotage themselves. that this -- the book is called listen yankee against the book. if you don't listen to what humans are saying it is not that complicated. if you refuse to listen. if you never talked to them, reptilian premonitions let you are bigger and you are

by one i hate the fact that the deloris park is reportable water it should be recycled water if ginsberg were here he would say we would love to do that but we don't have it -- move aggressively even if it's one step at a time addressing needs thank you. >> thank you. >> i have a couple of questions quickly i wanted to know the nonportable water program you spent time talking about the future you would like to go into for san pran what is the cost associated to get us to that level of using nonportable water consistently? >> the parts of our program recycled water water we're focused on nonportable for irrigation as well as on-site water treatment plans we have six projects online in terms of water treatment systems in the building we have total 25 other applicants that are considering using nonportable water in a district in san francisco. the number is growing. just in terms of when we pass the ordinance in 2012 that enabled a streamline process to move forward with these kinds of decentralized water system we're focusing on nonpotable when it comes to san francisco. >> so there are no

roe v wade would have gone the other way. >> ruth ginsberg is said maybe roe v wade should have been the other way. it's not that there are not individuals -- here i can speak with experience. the last term of chief justice burger, six of the justs were in their 80s. i will tell you they were not all there. it's not the law clerks stepped in and we did we wanted. we didn't. what we did we would extrapolate from their past opinions where we thought they wanted to go. you do see this you see a lot of the elderly justs become exaggerating versions of their younger saves in their later years. unbalanced. think about important things you might want to construct for your own lives. who do you want indo you want? do you want to get people at the tail end of their lies and their abilities are declining or people are at the peak of their powers? i'll take the people that are at the peak of their powers. there's no reason this should be different. >> if we're going to assess the supreme court one part of that has to be the lockner. those 40 years were a terrible failure by the supreme court. t

ginsberg for your presentation. in all the services you provide for the city. i want to point out, thank you for getting those things translated into legs. as you know i have spoken to you about that issue with the botanical garden [inaudible] i think they finally put it up. it is important for our departments to make all citizens in san francisco feel like they are part of san francisco, and chesler the materials those that are limited english speakers is really important role to do that. the consideration for the park hours was that last year, i think. legislation which i supported, you stated you expected legislation to result in sort of a decrease in vandalism. have you found that to be true or can you quantify the savings? >> this is still a work in progress supervisor yee. i think the legislation puts us on par with every big city urban park district in the nation that actually has an operating hours in its parts. it does give us a tool to proactively address the potential vandalism and bad behavior before it occurs. it is too soon to determine whether th

they were a response to -- to post war, cold war, so something like ginsberg's "howl" is -- it's not that it's science fiction, but it's about the -- the decay and unraveling of america and the human universe and -- and it had this message that everything is totally not all right, which i think for me, when i was 12 years old, was kind of -- kind of like reading apocalyptic science fiction. i mean, i had no framework which to place this -- >> but in fact, if you think about "howl" in that way, and that's a legitimate way to characterize it -- >> yeah. >> -- it actually rolls forward into so much that you've written because the fact is -- >> yeah. >> -- in none of your books is everything all right. >> no -- yeah. not that it's totally dreadful, but it's not -- it's not totally okay. and the people -- people who would tell me that it was totally okay, i would instinctively distrust. >> recoil from those people. >> yeah, i would recoil from those -- those people. >> well, the reality it's been good material for you. >> yeah. >> to have that be the basis. >> yeah. >> so you read the wor

so i think a merit selection, like john other roberts and ruth bader ginsberg. i don't think it would produce some of the others. i think it could produce another felix frankfurter who came from being a law professor or hugo black. it depends how we define merit and creating such a process would cost a discussion of what we mean by merit. that would be a good thing. >> other state court focus questions. ms. greenhouse: we talked about the failings of the appointment lifetime tenure system. but the majority of state courts have elected judges. many have term limits. those state judges are subject to attack ads, especially with regard to being soft on crime. what is the answer to judicial impartiality? i take it this asks us to reflect on the dangers of the election system for the state courts. not quite our topic, but we certainly have seen recently in the state courts -- wisconsin is one example of the mess it's created up there in the recent judicial election and unseeding of chief justice abramson. terribly messy situation. does anybody have thoughts about ele

even justices like ginsberg said she had qualms about the court making this decision for states when it came to abortion. the court as a whole has resisted leading the country in this sense. i regret some of the overheated rhetoric that you have seen directed at the dissenting justices. >> they are all trying to do their best. they have different idea logical prisms. it is true. it is sad when you see them personally attacked so viciously. always appreciate your thoughtful analysis. >> thanks megyn. >>> you heard professor turley suggesting it could produce more legal attacks on some christian groups. that will be the question. how do ayou balance the rights? family research council president tony perkens and formerer white house press secretary take up that debate. >>> law enforcement officials searching in the dark to find the convicted cop killer. these are live pictures of the search for david sweat. kris jenkins will join us to tell us what he saw. listen up team i brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized! i'm new ensure active high protein. i he

ambassador to morocco, marc ginsberg. not much new information from the president of france, but certainly a somber tone as we learn that one man has been beheaded in france in french media are reporting that perpetrators are claiming to be an islamic state members. your observation from francois hollande comments they are. >> i was listening to the president. there are two key points that emerged here. one that they did capture the perpetrators and there will be more facts that hopefully disclose. it's going to be hard fact it alone. i think the question is what is the reason and what was this for individually random individual or was he targeted in why was he targeted. that's the information we are trying to determine. i don't know, but i am only supposing there was a reason why this particular installation was attacked by isis. i am only supposing that this could be a direct reaction to the failed attack on the isis leader in north africa by the united states and france. dagen: ambassador, fox news did respond that thi

even justices like ginsberg said she had qualms about the court making this decision for states when it came to abortion. the court as a whole has resisted leading the country in this sense. i regret some of the overheated rhetoric that you have seen directed at the dissenting justices. >> they are all trying to do their best. they have different idea logical prisms. it is true. it is sad when you see them personally attacked so viciously. always appreciate your thoughtful analysis. >> thanks megyn. >>> you heard professor turley suggesting it could produce more legal attacks on some christian groups. that will be the question. how do ayou balance the rights? family research council president tony perkens and formerer white house press secretary take up that debate. >>> law enforcement officials searching in the dark to find the convicted cop killer. these are live pictures of the search for david sweat. kris jenkins will join us to tell us what he saw. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from c

justice ginsberg is not going to retire if she can help it until the next president is sworn in.he is not a generation older than the court's other seniors, like justice kennedy, and justice steven breyer that the older wing of the court is getting on and some way choose to retire or have to retire. >> garrett epsom in washington thank you. >> yeah. thank you. >>> there was one other supreme court decision today that could have a huge impact on national politics. the justices upheld the power of independent commissions used in arizona and several other states to draw congressional districts. michael shure joins us live from washington now. michael, just how big of deal is this? >> it's a very a big deal obviously in a state of arizona, and to some of the congress people in arizona. will there be a reconsideration now that there's an independent pan ale that will draw the districts. california was watching it very carefully. they have democratic control in both the house and state assembly there and liberals they thought would be very happy about this in california maybe not so pa

. >> joining me now, msnbc chief legal correspondent ari albert and mark ginsberg.let families of loved ones get involved in these negotiations? >> jose it's really a tough call. i'm torn myself between this because on one hand when the families get involved, the minute that you open up the negotiations the hostage demands start escalating. and these families i mean just think about it. most of the people who are apprehended are not wealthy americans, these are people who have been working abroad for the government or as contractors or as journalists, and we're talking astronomical amounts of money that these terrorist organizations are demanding. so the families are going to have to then start searching for help from the government. by definition it will involve the government. >> and ari, do you think everyone will be able to stay out of these negotiations, or do you expect them to play a role behind the scenes? the ambassador implies there are other things the government is probably going to have to do. >> according to the united states government, they're not go

it was steven brooiier and ginsberg who said maybe the court should look at the death penalty itself is unconstitutional. two justices said how can that be when the constitution refers to crimes as punishable by death? so i don't e see another big death penalty case on the horizon. the court last looked at lethal injection seven years ago, but both sides are basically saying they welcome a chance to look again at the constitutionty. >> this has been an interesting couple of days at the supreme court. >> reporter: it has indeed. >> thank you so much. >>> maryland governor is in the hospital today undergoing chemo for that aggressive cancer he's battling. but he's reaching out on social media tonight with #hoganstrong. he's saying things could not be going any better and thanking everyone for their support. hogan announced last week he was diagnosed with lymphoma. the disease is in stage three but responds well to treatment and his prognosis is good. >>> trying to get a handle on what has been a relatively deadly month. three people have been shot and killed in june. the last happened

ruth bader ginsberg is 83. and so this is going to be huge issue going forward into 2016.and scott walker ten hours ago about who they're going to pick. this language will matter a lot. >> what's interesting about this division, and van, i'd love you to respond to this. we'll take a listen to mike huckabee. he was asked about this ruling by the supreme court. >> when you saw the white house lit up in rainbow colors to celebrate the gay marriage decision, what did you think? >> well, i thought this is a president who just three years ago held the same position that i do as did hillary, as did joe biden. >> that's overstating the case a bit. they were not in favor of same-sex marriage three years ago, but they were in favor of same-sex couple rights. democrats are now acting as though there's no other alternative that squares with reality, but they had a different point of view three years ago. >> well, first of all, inside the democratic party, there were those of us in 1990s were saying that civil unions were not enough. and also we were concerned about the question of how

chief justice roberts, ginsberg kennedy, breyer, so sotomayor.in every case we must respect the role of the legislature and take care not to undo what it has done. congress passed the affordable care act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them. if at all possible we must interpret the act in a way that is consistent with the former and avoid the latter. section 36 b can fairly be read consistent with what we see as congress's plan and that is the reading we adopt. scalia in dissent. today's interpretation is not merely unnatural it is unheard of. who would ever have dreamt that exchanges established by the state means exchanges established by the state or federal government? under all the the usual rules of interpretation in short the government should lose this case but normal rules of interpretation seem always to yield to the overriding principle of the present court. the affordable care act must be saved. we should start calling this scotus care. judge andrew napolitano amy walter national editor for the cook political report

justice ginsberg: are you saying, if anyone has standing as an institution -- mr. feigin: if someone were to bring a voting rights act challenge to bring that claim -- justice kennedy: is it part of our jurisprudence that, if it is likely that another person is affected, that that goes into the balance and we say legislature do not have standing because other people out there are more directly affected? do we say that? mr. feigin: no, your honor quite the opposite. even if it means that no one would have standing, that does not in that is reason to find standing. i want to make a couple of points on the statutory section 2ac. i think the statutory issue is easy because the court decided all the relevant issues in ohio against gillibrand and constructed word for word the language of the 1911 act. justice roberts: it's meant to apply when the state has not redistricted under its law. here, the question is whether the law is valid. mr. feigin: just to take your question on, i think the question of the preparatory clause is best understood in context. a neighboring sta

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ginsburg comes before scalia alphabetically, why isn't it scalia ginsberg? scalia was appointed some years before ginsburg. justice liu: there's going to be a biography called "the notorious r.b.g." and there's a biopic coming too. it's called "on the basis of sex" with natalie portman starring as you. are you in on these projects? justice ginsburg: i can't claim credit for notorious r.b.g. but i like it and so do my grandchildren. "on the basis of sex," that's what the biopic is called, i have a nephew who is a scriptwriter and he asked if he could write a script about a case in which marty and i were involved in 1971. and i said, yes, you would like to spend your time doing that, that's -- he finds it interesting. i hope it will be paired as the turning point case in the supreme court. the case was charles e. moss commissioner of internal revenue, charles e. moss was a man who took good care of his mother, though she was 93 at the time, we argued the case in the 10th circuit. this is his story. there was a business deduction -- it covered elder care. charl

but in their descent, justice breyer writings for himself and justice ginsberg the death penalty violatesstice thomas one of the court's more conservative justices, sort of points in the opposite direction here. he says the court ought to revisit this question of whether the mandatory death penalty for certain crimes should be unconstitutional. he thinks the court should take another look at that. so not surprising here that you see this breakdown on the question of whether the death penalty is effective, good policy or in fact unconstitutional. >> all right. as we await the other two decisions, pete williams stand by as you listen and he will bring that to us as it becomes available and we will bring it to you at home as soon as we have these decisions. >>> now developments from upstate new york where for the first time in three weeks, afr the manhunt for a pair of escaped killers comes to an end. this morning 35-year-old david sweat is hospitalized in critical condition. he was shot twice in the torso by police officer jay cook. his three-week run from the law ended just a mile from the

just to be clear, you know he and justice ginsberg in that opinion did not actually come out and saygainst the death penalty. what they said was there were enough questions about it. we've had 40 years of having reinstated the death penalty in 1976 and it's time that we step back and take a good look at whether it is constitutional. it was a very thoughtful, long-in-the-making, very well-argued dissenting opinion that the two of them submitted today. >> emily run us through the other things that the supreme court cleaned up today, their final cases. >> the case in my view that was the sleeper of the year came out today. it's about arizona's attempt, the voters' attempt in arizona to provide independent commissions to draw the lines for elections, for congressional elections. this is usually done by poll significance tigss, it's the-- politicians. the court ruled 5-4 the liberals plus justice kennedy in the majority, that they did have this power. there was the death penalty just as you referred to earlier, very bitterly divided 5-4. and we also had a case about the power of the epa t

in the discents justices steven breyer and ruth baeder ginsberg took the argument a step further and said the death penalty itself may be "unconstitutional." >> health check tonight. if you know someone making a difference to make their community healthier philadelphia magazine wants to hear from you. >> they have launched their annual healthy road challenge and health reporter ali gorman joins us at the big board to tell us more about it. >> the contest is run by be well philly. that's the magazine's health and fitness blog. last year they had 500 nominations. this year once again they're looking for people who are helping to make the tri-state area a healthier place. the search is on for b well fill's 2015 health hero. i met up with assistant editor fisher who says the online challenge is a way to recognize people making a difference in the health of our community. >> it shows just how many awesome people are trying to make philly a healthy fit place to be. >> this is the fourth year for the challenge. in the past, nominees included. >> doctors founders of charities, coaches, train

alito, thomas and scalia and four justices on the left when it comes to kagan, briar, sotomayor, ginsbergnd it's kennedy and roberts are the swing? is that what we're looking at here? >> we often see that on the social issues. where we saw the fault lines was in the marriage decision. two different things the court does. interpreting statutes the obama care decision. the other is saying what liberties does the constitution protect and that's where the court's liberal conservative fight four divisions are the sharpest. >> between scalia and roberts, right, this is a big debate. explain the difference here a little bit. there's been a lot of commentary on this. scalia looks at it in almost a strict -- the description of strict construction and is it fair to call roberts an institutionalist. >> justice scalia has written about this as a textualist. what would the founding fathers say. finding no meaning beyond the words of law itself. remember, in the -- in his majority opinion in the obama care case, you have scalia saying this is crazy, you're twisting the statute shouldn't be doing this.

one of the reasons he gets along with ginsberg.u know maybe somebody that far away from you disappoints you less. so i think with kennedy whose very close idealogically can disappoint him more. and you can hear that in the dissent. >> roberts did ss ss did not sign on to the scalia's dissent. >> i think he said i'll take a step back here. >> i got to come back to this bench. >> exactly right. and he wants to be a leader of the institution. his dissent is strong but still much more respectful. >> let me ask you tom following on justice roberts and the issues he took with this decision. at one point he says who do we think we are that we justices should not be making these decisions? explain how you think that is consistent or not with roberts' previous decisions and how he explained them. >> it is very hard to say look i think we should be allowing these things to be decided by the legislature because everybody has things they think are unconstitutional. think about shelby county. those were joined by the chief justice. serve a bit

. >> but you -- >> could you tell me where -- coming a little bit off of justice ginsberg's k9 >> as the government put it in this case in the closing argument, under the instruction given, it does not matter what the defendant thinks. what matters is whether a reasonable person would foresee the listener would be placed in fear, and so -- >> but i mean, how is that different from what you intend? if you know, if a reasonable person is going to read this way, aren't they going to assume that's what the defendant intended? >> that is a standard. it holes him to a reasonable person standard regardless of whether he was aware of that, that holds him to what a reasonable person would have known. >> along the same lines and what the chief justice asked you. i was surprised by the answer. i'm trying to figure out what contactually the level of intent you want is so one, the very very highest level might be i affirmatively want to place this person in fear. that's why i'm doing what i'm doing. all right. there is a step down from that which is i don't want to do that. i'm just fulfilling my

writing for the court and jind by liberal justices ginsberg kennedy summed it up this way. he wrote, no union is more profound than marriage for it embodies the highest ideals of love fidelity devotion sacrifice and family. it would miss understand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage their plea is that they do respect it. respect it so deeply that they seek to find a fulfillment for themselves. their hope is not to be condemned to live in lonliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. they ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law, he wrote. the constitution grants them that right. >> president obama who ordered the end of don't ask don't tell and oversaw the supreme court defeat of the defense of marriage act said that today's ruling in his words made our union a little more perfect. >> this morning the supreme court recognized that the constitution guarantees marriage equality. in doing so they have reaffirmed that all americans are entitled to the equal protection of the law. that all people should be treated equally re

. >> i just finished a book about supreme court justice ruth bader ginsberg.onger always looks as overt as the killing that we saw last week. it often looks like second order discrimination. i don't think we should lose sight of what he was trying to say. i think the reason he may havecendiaryincendiary which are his prerogative to use. is because he's been coming out and saying the same thing over and over again. and it's not getting through. so maybe he is trying to talk to people who young people listen to. the myth of the color blind millennial is not true. it is not getting through the old message so he is trying something knew that is getting people's attention and we should sight of the actual point here. >> and we are. which is the point i'm making. >> well we're talking both about hiss comments. it is a weapon the "n" word is a weapon. >> yes it is a weapon. i'm fixated on whether or not he used the word. i just thought the whole thing was a little weird. >> that wasn't the question. i agree with you too. but that wasn't the question. >> well it was a

neil, you and i were in hanover, new hampshire, when they had to pull ginsberg because he had smoked marijuana with students decades before. especially in retrospect with marijuana now legal in several states. what an odd turn of events that was. >> one thing -- everyone is talking about this being a victory for the american people. it is a victory for john roberts because john roberts at his confirmation hearing said he's going to be an umpire. a lot of people on the left said, oh, that's just horse manure. there's no way in which that's what he's going to do. i think the chief really showed his colors today and three years ago. today of course joined by justice kennedy as well and the four democratically appointed justices in giving not just the president but the american people i think a sweeping victory. >> although we'll see what democrats have to say about him after the same-sex marriage ruling comes down. who knows what's going to happen there. wolf blitzer, back to you. >> thanks very much. jake, let's talk about what's going on. we're waiting, about 15 minutes the president

ginsburg comes before scalia alphabetically, why isn't it -- scalia ginsberg? scalia was appointed some years before ginsburg. justice liu: there's going to be a biography called "the notorious r.b.g." and there's a bio-pic coming too. it's called "on the basis of sex" with natalie portman starring as you. are you in on these projects? justice ginsburg: i can't claim credit for notorious r.b.g. but i like it and so do my grandchildren. "on the basis of sex," that's what the biopic is called, i have a nephew who is a script writer and he asked if he could write a script about a case in which marty and i were involved in 1971. and i said, yes, you would like to spend your time doing that, i hope it will be paired as the turning point case in the supreme court. the case was charles e. moss commissioner of internal revenue, charles e. moss was a man who took guide care of his mother, though she was 93 at the time, we argued the case in the 10th circuit. this is his story. there was a business deduction apublic to believe a woman or a divorced man. it covered elder

[applause] >> night ruth bader ginsberg talks about her life and career. she was interviewed recently by the american constitution society. as is that it :00 on c-span. -- it is at 8:00 on c-span. this weekend, the city's tour is learning about the history and literary life in key west florida. >> they bought it for $8,000 in 1931 and they converted this into a studio. here, the film of with the writing. ernest hemingway knocked out a farewell of arms while here in key west. he said, if you really want to write, start with one true sense. >> it is something beyond, cherished because it is something that has never been done. >> this is also where harry truman sought refuge from washington. >> president freeman -- truman thought he was constantly under everyone's eyes, so by coming down here with staff, he felt comfortable. they certainly at times told off color stories and they had a blast. they visited back and forth without scrutiny from the press. they wore hawaiian shirts. there was even a company that sense hawaiian shirts -- sent hawaiian shirts. then