bill: wondering, and i understand your premise here, about going back to gitmo. months from now, where are we on the issue, every decision, will we backtrack on it and no detainee leaves gitmo and the trials only take place in guantanamo bay. >> that makes sense and the administration may have been able to do it differently if they did their homework and looked to find the location that was in agreement -- but the way they bangled it, i don't see how they get out of it and i don't have any difficulty answering the question and i don't know how they got into a mess to begin with and how they get out, the president made it major priority and to close guantanamo bay and made it a major priority to talk about giving people civilian trials and giving terrorists civilian trials, how he backs away from that, i don't know but he has to do it and eric holder has fallen down on the job and did a terrible job and the presidents has to come in and when he does that, the left wing base will go crazy. and he is in an unenviable position. >> you are saying rahm emanuel figured

it's a gitmo in the end she says. dana perino joining me.hat is weird, if you are going to go the american trial route you might as well play the game and say someone's innocent until proven guilty. that's just me i guess. >> it's not just you. i think it's everyone across the board. you think in your earliest civics class what you learn. when they announced the plan to have him tried in new york they said fall file you're is not -- failure is not an option but the foundation of a fair trial is failure is on option. i believe at the end of the day khalid sheik mohammed will get a trial but it will be at guantanamo bay. >> it leeks like you're going to be right because we discovered in new york they don't want it. no other town outside this crazy mayor we had on -- was it newburgh, new york? he wanted it there. >> right. >> neil: he was a lovely man but i'm thinking you're nuts if you are think your voters will be keen on this but they discovered, no, not in our yard. at what point and how did they say all right, it's back to gitmo? >> you kn

, why can't we leave gitmo open as a prison, because once you bring them into our federal courts andge is going to have to for the first time decide whether or not to allow evidence because miranda was or was not read, that's going to be a very difficult position for a federal judge to be put in. and the biggest problem that i have, and the message i send to the global community, which is horrible, is when the administration says that these trials are going to be a slam dunk and they're going to be put to death, does that mean if they're actually acquitted and they're going to be a slam dunk anyway, does that mean we're sending people back to jail who were found not guilty in our federal court system because of an evidentiary problem with the trial. these are the problems a military commission would address. and i still think fairly give these guys due process. >> i totally get it. i think the underlying issue is to create a third class of prisoner and not consult with the american people. seems undemocratic. we'll get to that one another day. thanks for the commentary today, represe

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whether we continue to hold detainees in gitmo or move them to gitmo north in illinois, the problem remains the same. no amount of self of flagellation will appease those who sympathize with al qaeda. the war against al qaeda is global so long as our objective is to defeat them, as it should be, the detainee problem will persist. closings gitmo only imperils our security. no more randomizing terrorists. -- no more mirandizing. no more trust in manhattan. no more transfers to yemen. the american people need a new terrorist detainee policy. our war on terror policies are not the only casualty of the cleanest policies. -- declinist policies. challenges to the international order replacements to our national security and engaging adversaries becomes our principal endeavor. the 2010 qdr is replete with such rhetoric. whether dealing with a former adversary like russia or a present-day adversary like iran, i'm concerned that engagement has translated into weakness. we cannot let this approach compromise our commitments to our friends and allies. for example, the so-called " russia resets"policy s

whether we continue to hold detaineings in gitmo as i proposed or move them to gitmo north in illinoisproblem remains the same. no amount of self-flagellation will appease those who sthice with al qaeda. like it or not, the war against al qaeda is global. so long as our objective is to defeat al qaeda as it should be, the detainee problem will persist. closing gitmo only imperils our security. no more mir andizing terrorist --my randizing terrorists. no more trials in downtown manhattan, no more terrorist transfers to yemen. the american people need a new terrorist detainee policy. our war on terror policies are not the only casualty of the policies. this attitude also reflects how we engage countries worldwide. part and parcel of a declinist foreign policy is faith in diplomacy and the international system. thus challenges to the international order replace threats to our national security and engaging adversaries becomes our principle endeavor. the 2010 qdr is complete with such receipt -- q.d.r. is replete with such rhetoric. whether dealing with russia or iran, i'm concerned that e

gitmo. did he do that? let's watch. >> we provide the process whereby guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now. >> glenn: still opened. that turned into a debacle. obama wasn't going to conduct business the way george w. bush did. he made that promise. watch this. >> he has been saying well, i can change what congress passed by attaching a letter saying i don't agree with this part or that part and i'm going to choose to interpret it this way or that way. that's not part of his power. >> glenn: he's right. >> this is part of the whole theory of george bush that he can make laws as he's going along. >> glenn: he's right. >> i disagree. i taught the constitution for ten years. i believe in the constitution andly obey the constitution of the united states. we're not going to use signing statements as a way to doing an end-run around congress. >> glenn: got it? no signing statements. here is a constitutional lawyer. he's very clear here. i taught the constitution. he's right about george w. bus

and gitmo continues to linger on.p sending those gitmo detainees to illinois after all. there is after all a very contested senate race in that state. >> i think there was a sense among the democratic party that they underestimated how much anger and concern there is out there on this issue. scott brown used it in his campaign in massachusetts. said that we should not be spending taxpayer money on lawyers -- we should use taxpayer money rather on the terrorists in terms for weapons to stop them, rather than on lawyers to defend them. that was a rallying cry for his campaign. his advisers told me that they thought it was the number one issue. clearly, there were those in washington that recognized that, and then, of course, the decision made to move that terror trial out of new york. so this is sort of one of those issues. jobs and the economy, the top issue. terrorism and national security is another very important issue that democrats have to be weary of. >> david, how -- how quickly did christmas day change this deb

or gitmo terrorists doesn't mean they're true believers. how do you respond to those who say this is a political stunt? >> i don't object to fact that they represented gitmo detainee, although you wonder why people decide to put their time in for certain causes. now that they're on the other side and we're talking about vital issues of life and death i think the american people are entitled to know who represented guantanamo detainees then and now, and to me, this removes any type of doubt and himself would let us decide whether or not this colors their opinion, whether or not they are so influenced by their representation of guantanamo detainees, certainly, for instance, if they're going after cia's interrogators and it turns out they also represented someone who is a guantanamo detainee, that would raise questions of judgment. i think the american people are entitled to make that decision. eric holder may decide the person is qualified, fine, but that should be on the table so there's no secret, there's no conspiracy theories. to me, that

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first of all, because gitmo has been custom built to deal with cases precisely like this.here's a courtroom that can deal with classified information, store it safely and electronically. there's a detention facility that can hold these people in a remote, secure and humane location. it was built specifically for these kinds of trials. secondly, new york poses a tremendous, the biggest, security threat. >> sure. >> and as well, it is a mockery of the rule of law to take people who are charged with violating all the rules of war and put them in a situation that's better than the one they would have been in if they followed the rules of war. >> judge, the fact that the administration is vacillating in the message it's on in new york, it's off, it's on. does that make us look weak? >> it makes it look like amateur night down there. yes. it makes us look weak. it is weakness. and i can't understand the reason for the vacillation. i can't understand the choice to bring it to new york in the first place other than showboating. >> sure. >> there you go. all right, we'll find out w

decisions o-gitmo. -- decisions on gitmo and how to deal with the economy, jobs.d they realize, well, i think i'm a little bit more conservative than i thought i was. 'cause i don't want any of that. so now we have a chance to come in and fill in the blanks based on principles that are foundational. the fact that we believe free markets should be free so that wealth can be created not up here for government but here at the grassroots, so it can be invested and spent and saved by individuals within the community. so that, you know, drew here can go out and build a business and hire my 18-year-old son when he gets done for the academic year. get the brother something to do in the summertime, you know? that's what this is about. and if we lose that momentum that's being generated by the likes of a bob mcdonald in virginia and chris christie in new jersey. we won new jersey for goodness sakes and then you're going to slingshot up to massachusetts. now, be honest, i don't even have to go back a year. i can go back a month and i bet you 90% of the people in this room wo

he is also closing gitmo and letting the terrorist on to the streets. >> that stir was no lady. that that was bill shultz. >> i'm happy it came at half i'm too. >> it needed to be corrected. >> appreciate it. >> he is defending you, bill. >> no lady whines like that. >> america is sliding into socialism l. jim, said we are moving toward socialism, but we are not becoming a socialism country. when he asked if we were sliding he was careful to say, a little bit. >> plus if you are asked you are obligated to say yes. then you can talk more. it is frustrating when somebody says, do you think this, and no, and you have nothing to say. >> like that time you were asked, you know, do you hate the jews? you have to be polite. >> a little bit. >> ellis, you said you are just glad conservatives found a labor leader they like. i am glad liberals found a liberal leader they don't like. >> i like i'm h. i like the accent. i think he is cute and i bet he will do really, really well in some of the polish precincts. >> to learn more about him, rent cocoon 3. >> and you asked if rob blagojevich w

gitmo crosses terrorism. an americn prison, just because he is not and gitmo, that is a justice of completely being divorced from the reality of who we'reç dealg with. >> thank you. >> i am a former marine and i have a blog. [applause] myq question is for the warrior. we were talking aboutç how to identify the enemy.q bombing incident, her question çwas why did they want to do this? a warped version of islam that is motivating them. her question again is why?ç qwhat do you say to people who will jump through a mental hopes to make us the bad guy. her conclusion isq that they are fightingt( it for to be isolate( and sovereign, not at war against us. >> t(w3qçi would say take the . [laughter] you have to increase their understanding of what is going on. w3xd>> how you explain how she s wrong. >> hopefully there are other voices out there that are rational that can explain it in waysç that are more correct. >> let me say this but to have to study and understand who you are up against. you must realize this

. >> three detainees from gitmo have been tried, that's it. >> bill: mary katharine, you get the last word. >> on the campaign trail everybody listened to obama and he was inspiring and people wanted a change and they listened to this guy and they believed whatever he said on that given day. i think what that told obama is that if he kept talking that all the things he wanted to do, even if they were not in cink with the american people he could get done because he keep talking about them. that's what he has done. it hasn't worked thus far. something like the k.s.m. trials we tried trying guys in america before. it's not the greatest. >> bill: gavin newsom making his first appearance in the no spin zone. how you cannot watch that? bernie goldberg on whether the >> bill: personal story segment tonight. like to welcome the mayor of san francisco good afternoon newsome. this is the mayor's first appearance in the no spin zone. many people in the city by the bay are asking why the heck is he doing it? so, mr. mayor, why the heck are you doing it? >> actually, i watch you every night. i ha

but what happened is the began to see policies on fold, the decisions on gitmo and on health care, the decisions have to do with economy, jobs and they realize i'm more conservative than i thought i was because i don't want any of that now we have a chance to come and fill in the blanks based on principles that are foundational the fact we believe markets should be free so wealth can be created not for government but here, the grassroots so we can be invested and spend and save to buy individuals within the community so that drew can go out and build a business and higher my 18 year old son when he gets done for the academic year, something to do in the summertime. that is what this is about. and if we lose that momentum that's being generated by the likes of bob and donald and virginia and chris in new jersey -- we've one new jersey for goodness sakes. be honest i don't even have to go back a year. i can go back a month and i bet you 90% of the people in this room would not have predicted tuesday's outcome and would have said its massachusetts, it's not going to win. god bless him. [l

they begin to see policies unfold, physicians at gitmo, decisions on health care, decisions on how to do with the economy, jobs. and they realize they think i'm a little more conservative than i thought i was because i don't want any of that. so now we have a chance to come in and fill in the blanks, based on principles that are foundational, the fact that we believe free market should be free so that wealth can be created not appear for government to hear the grass roots so it can be invested and spent and saved by individuals within the community. so that, you know, drew can go build the business and higher money to his son when he gets done for the academic year and give them something to do in the summertime, you know. that's what this is about. and if we lose that momentum that's been generated by the likes of a bob mcdonald and division of anna chris christie new jersey. we won new jersey, for goodness sakes. and then you're going to sling shot up to. now be honest, i don't even have to go back a year. i can go back a month and i bet you 90% of the people in this room would not

now turning to gitmo, it was always my understanding that the many detainees in gitmo were never intendedo come to the united states for trial. that's why we worked in 2007 and 2009 to get the military tribunals properly established. now moving along, mr. director, i was very disappointed. i wrote you a month and a half ago asking the recidivism numbers for the past year detainees returning to terrorism to be made public. i first got my answer via the media last night when the letter from white house adviser brennan was sent to the house speaker which stated openly what we've known that the recidivism rate was 20%. he went on to note that all of those were from the previous administration, but putting aside all that and the fact that we -- took us a long time to get that answer. number one, i hope that the information will be forthcoming on a regular basis in the future. i -- when i ask a question, i'd like to hear from you in a more timely manner. but if the -- i do know that the detainees released prior to 2009 were judged to be the very most rehabable or most subject to rehabilitation

soldier and he was shipped to gitmo and he is now a cause celeb for the canadian bar association andsimilar groups of this is quite a family. another son was paralyzed in a firefight in pakistan and not fanzine spending the rest of his life in a prison hospital there were health care is about the level it will be after this new plan kicks in here --. [laughter] the kid and his mom blue quote home to toronto to enjoy the benefits of ontario health care. in this boy is canadian born and bred, canadian troops are in afghanistan fighting al qaeda so if you're canadian born and bred that's the side in canadian is meant to be on. when instead in this guy is fighting for al qaeda the enemy, the other side. it could be he just checked the wrong box of one who i don't know. [laughter] trees and used to be defined give up their as giving aid and comfort to the queen's enemies but this guy is likely be on that. he is the queen said in a, he's out there with a gun firing of our side. but postmodern, oppose national societies no longer believe in trees and so when the present mayflies on to toron

now, turning to gitmo, it was always my understanding that the many detainees in gitmo were never intended come to the united states for trial. that's why we work in 2007, 2009 to get the military tribunals properly established. no moving along, mr. director, was very disappointed. overture month and half ago asking to consider some numbers for the past year of detainees returning to terrorism to be made public. i first got my answer via the media last night, when the letter from white house adviser, brendan, presented the house speaker which stated openly what we know is the recidivism rate was 20%. he went on to note that all those were from the previous administration, but putting aside all that and the fact that it took us a line tend to get that answer. number one, i hope that the information will be forthcoming on a regular basis in the future, when i ask a question i'd like to hear from you in a more timely manner. but i do know that the detainees released prior to 2009 for judge to be the most re-habitable detainees they had. so i don't believe it takes a rocket scientist to realiz

we understand the larger effort to transfer and release other dangerous gitmo detainees continues. well, let me be clear. the previous administration released terrorists, sent them back to their homeland, some for rehabilitation, 20% of them, one out of five, have returned to the battlefield and a couple of them apparently were coaching and training the underpants bomber. that was a big mistake -- stop making the mits stakes. we can -- stop making the mistakes. we can learn from the mistakes we've made in the past. we send more back, they'll be attempting to kill more americans. we shouldn't compromise our security here at home and the lives of our soldiers overseas just to carry out a campaign promise. the campaign promise doesn't square with national security. i humbly suggest that national security should prevail. there's another case, the administration's decision to end -- or to bypass military commissions for detainees who are ready for plead guilty, as khalid sheikh mohammed was, to move him to new york city for a show trial. i'll address that more later. but while the admin

recent revisiting the gitmo facilities i see no reason these trials must be held in this country and the united states let alone in the commonwealth of pennsylvania and i will do everything in my power to prevent the trials from being held within the commonwealth. please encourage the justice department to look elsewhere and certainly i know that this input convey that message. i have issues regarding the department's budget request i would like to discuss with you. in 2008 the department promulgated the aircraft security program. the proposed rule making regarding the general aviation security, john from the tsa was working with industry to refine the requirements to insure they were smart and sensible and most importantly enforceable. in light of the austin texas incident can you please tell me where we are on the issuance of either an amended rule making or completely new rule making for the general aviation security? >> yes, representative, we are obviously taking a fresh look, we had done a proposed rule, we have been working with the general aviation community and we got the co

the president promised to close down the gitmo center when he started his run for president. >>> and a $30 billion plan that was thrown out there at the state of the union last week. how does the president plan to use money from twos help main street? >> the whole idea here is to get jobs out there again. he figures if you get the banks lending again to small businesses, and small businesses have to hire, we will get the economy moving here again. at the town hall in new hampshire, president obama plans to layout the plan to take $30 billion of the t.a.r.p. money, and it would be a small business lending program and help community banks boost their small lending. they have assets under $10 billion. president obama says these banks do half of the small business loans, and so they figure they are already in the community and it's a good place to start. credit conditions have worked out better for the larger institutions, but smaller ones are still having a hard time. if we get the smaller parts of the economy moving again, that helps because small businesses employ. it's not the big co

other terrorists slated for civilian trials in new york city or wherever they end up at, keep them at gitmomission. a year ago, they were prepared to plead guilty before a military commission before eric holder made this decision, we could have executed one of them by now. i hope the president and his attorney general rethink their current approach which i believe is very dangerous for america. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. ms. kaptur of ohio. for what purpose does the gentleman from south carolina rise? >> to address the house for five minutes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i'm just back from a trip led by our colleague steve lynch to afghanistan and pakistan and what we saw there, welcome, -- what we saw there, mr. speaker, was america's best doing incredible work. the u.s. military is clearly the best trained, best equipped and most disciplined fighting force in the world. i'm committed to keeping it that way and to supplying them with resources they need to get the

we're closing gitmo.ere's no reason beside political reason, or international law to compel us to do so. we are doing so at risk. that risk is best illustrated by the third point. andy eluded to it earlier. we're now bringing terrorist into new york and detroit for civilian trial. it will be a media circus. it will possibly endanger the city here itself and detroit because they will become magnets for terrorist attack. are you safer now than you were this day last year? i submit to you, no. and please we will follow standard ncaa rules. you can ask anyone a question and then everyone else will jump in with his opinion. so please? yes, sir. >> this has been an honor and privilege to listen to this panel. it's so much vision and experience. i have one question particularly for general meyers, it also applies to perhaps the colonel west. would you consider culture as a national priority? it seems that our civilization, our media, our arts, our educational system has not been doing the job that prepares ameri

course the trials of the 9/11 folks i called the senator's office and fly everyone to impanel a jury to gitmoan important part and the secretary said it was not there fault but that's an easy way out. it's important that we reach out to our allies and that they have security support. after all the terrorist will approach the weakest link, and if that's a foreign partner, that's where they will go. europeans have taken immediate actions. and in amsterdam where this individual flew through, they put in the full-body scanners almost immediately after that incident. host: caller, what is your other question? caller: back in the beginning of the obama administration they have several, i guess they call it ice now. they had several raised that went into a factory that rebuilt engines and arrested a bunch of people and napolitano told them not to do that anymore. we still have immigrants, i live in jacksonville and we had the same situation where there were 100 people working on the new white -- court house that were not documented. if we don't penalize the people that hire the illegal immigrants, t

the whole concept of gitmo was to keep us within a rule of law framework. the arguments being made now about how to treat these terrorists arguments based on the wrong paradigm. it is critical that we have a full-scale national debate about whether you think terrorism is akin to bank robbery or whether you think it is akin to an attack on our country. i think we would win that debate hands down. i am happy to have it every day of the year. it is critical in the broader struggle internationally, particularly when you consider the threat of weapons of mass destruction. what the bush administration did in overthrowing saddam hussein was to take preemptive, military action against the threat to international peace and security. i could give you the long version of why i think we had international legal authority to do that. i can give you the short version -- we were entitled to defend ourselves. yesterday, a commission appointed by the government of the netherlands issued a 551- page report that said the war against saddam hussein was illegitimate because ther

pull out of iraq, afghanistan, shut down gitmo. is that right?> i don't think we disagree on national security, who would be against national security? >> on some specifics. >> there might be some disagreement, but i bet we agree that we shouldn't be fighting wars that we don't declare, and we get ourselves into too much trouble. now we're in a mess because we didn't follow the rules and the constitution. somebody might have a strategy slightly different than mine, but still, not many american people enjoy war, and want the presidents to go to war endlessly and carelessly. yes, my proposal is that it's not in our best interests, not in our national security interests, and the sooner we end this the better, it's participating in our bankruptcy. >> you would great or disagree with your dad, rand? >> i would say that the most important thing that the federal government does is take care of our national security, bar none. it's the most important enumerated power is national defense, something we can't privatize. it's something that we need the natio

another prisoner is a living get aeaving gitmo. is a palestinian and will be able to work in spain. those of some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> and another house hearing on toyota's recent vehicle recall this morning. we will hear from the present and ceo akio toyoda at 11:00 a.m. eastern. >> starting at 10 eastern, president obama will speak with key members in the health-care debate. i]is will include your reaction. >> he is best known for his novel "animal farm.' -- ." we will speak with several regarding it. it is part of the book tv weekend on c-span. >> "washington journal" continues. host: tell us about what has been going on in washington the past couple of days. guest: it has to do with the concept.ion of nato's strategicj Ñiwhen the government met in strasbourg, they decided to take another look at it to see if it was current. they asked secretary albrecht to have a big group of experts who were responsible for writing a report to the general in may. there were seminars discussing variousw3çó aspects. this i

they began to see policies on fold, the decisions on gitmo, on health care, decisions on how to deal with the economy, jobs, and they realized i think i'm a little bit more conservative than i thought i was because i don't want any of that. so now we have a chance to come and fill in the blanks based on principles that are foundational fact that we believe free-market should be free so wealth can be created not appear for government but here at the grassroots so it can be invested and spent and saved by individuals within the community so that drew can build a business and higher my 18 year old son when he gets done for the academic year and something to do in the summertime. you know? that is what this is about. and if we lose that momentum that's being generated by the likes of bob and donald of virginia and chris christie in new jersey -- new jersey? we want new jersey for good this stakes then you're going to a slingshot to massachusetts. now be honest, i don't even have to go back and a year. i can go back one month and i bet you 90% of the people in this room would not have pre

we talked to them about bringing gitmo to michigan and we get the same thing. they answer.they are rude. and then they hang up. and then they said, pete, there's nothing we can do to hold these folks accountable. the earliest we can do anything is 2012 when these bad things may happen. as i have been listening to them. i asked my staff, go back and get the bill of rights. i have introduced them. my colleagues here on the floor don't like it. one of the lead things we proposed in 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996 was a bill that says one of the keystones was the voters' bill of rights is when you call your senator or your representative and they arrogantly answer the phone, are rude and then hang up and then vote wrong, which traditionally means they are voting for bigger government and taking rights away from the individual, rights away from the states, you now have an option. the option is that when you leave the meeting where you're talking about this and someone gives you a piece of paper that has a knew lines on it and you -- few lines on it and you say get a few voters to sign th

they began to see policies on fold, the decisions on gitmo, on health care, decisions on how to dealwith the economy, jobs, and they realized i think i'm a little bit more conservative than i thought i was because i don't want any of that. so now we have a chance to come and fill in the blanks based on principles that are foundational fact that we believe free-market should be free so wealth can be created not appear for government but here at the grassroots so it can be invested and spent and saved by individuals within the community so that drew can build a business and higher my 18 year old son when he gets done for the academic year and something to do in the summertime. you know? that is what this is about. and if we lose that momentum that's being generated by the likes of bob and donald of virginia and chris christie in new jersey -- new jersey? we want new jersey for good this stakes then you're going to a slingshot to massachusetts. now be honest, i don't even have to go back and a year. i can go back one month and i bet you 90% of the people in this room would not have pred

the whole concept of gitmo was to keep us within a rule of law framework.ased on the wrong paradigm. it is critical that we have a full-scale national debate about whether you think terrorism is akin to bank robbery or whether you think it is akin to an attack on our country. i think we would win that debate hands down. i am happy to have it every day of the year. it is critical in the broader struggle internationally, particularly when you consider the threat of weapons of mass destruction. what the bush administration did in overthrowing saddam hussein was to take preemptive, military action against the threat to international peace and security. i could give you the long version of why i think we had international legal authority to do that. i can give you the short version -- we were entitled to defend ourselves. yesterday, a commission appointed by the government of the netherlands issued a 551- page report that said the war against saddam hussein was illegitimate because there was no foundation in international law. all i can say is, if that is the an

i mean, i air america has shut down and gitmo is still open.[applause] take technology, the community of activists in this room, put all of you on line, a few into talk radio. we have a significant advantage we have not fully exploited. it is a beautiful message, online and the radio together. we have fox news, i guess. imagine the way to collaborate on line to fight the left to beat them at their own game. it is not that hard. we just have to do it. we can together beat the left. we will beat them this year, and in 2012 they better watch out. thank you. >> thank you. our next speaker is jonathan who has been with town hall from the founding in 1995, taking over as editor in 1998. he became editor in chief and continued in that capacity since town hall was acquired in 2006. salem and just yesterday made it official that they are now in partnership inhotair.com -- in hotair.com he has also worked for the leadership institute. >> thanks, rob. it is a pleasure to be here in front of all of you. this is probably the biggest crowd i've seen. there a

the whole concept of gitmo was to keep us within a rule of law framework. the arguments being made now about how to treat these terrorists arguments based on the wrong paradigm. it is critical that we have a full-scale national debate about whether you think terrorism is akin to bank robbery or whether you think it is akin to an attack on our country. i think we would win that debate hands down. i am happy to have it every day of the year. it is critical in the broader struggle internationally, particularly when you consider the threat of weapons of mass destruction. ration did in overthrowing saddam hussein was to take preemptive, military action against the threat to international peace and security. i could give you the long version of why i think we had international legal authority to do that. i can give you the short version -- we were entitled to defend ourselves. yesterday, a commission appointed by the government of the netherlands issued a 551- page report that said the war against saddam hussein was illegitimate because there was no foundation in

from gitmo to trial in new york city. thankfully the people in new york city are saying, no way, we're not doing it and at the same time that k.s.m. is being promised a trial in civilian courts in the united states they're seeing 11 pages of new vulnerabilities being placed on them after no hearings and no debate. yes, our men and women in the field are seeing a real difference. they're seeing a real difference in action by this congress and by this administration. they see that they've become kind of a target of this administration. that this is now not about keeping america safe, it's about putting them into a legal framework, a legal sign, an ugly legal net. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from texas. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. mr. hoekstra: madam speaker. i ask for a recorded vote. i ask for a recorded vote. the chair: the gentleman has asked for a recorded vote. pursuant to clause 6 of

the top two al qaeda operatives in yemen today just as one example are both gitmo graduates that have to the fight despite the fact they were supposedly in a rehab program. we also must not let our desire to showcase american justice outweigh the requirement to protect our citizens. terror show trials in new york or anywhere else are clearly not the most expedient way to try the 9/11 suspects. it has taken a while for some to wake up to this reality, but i believe mayor bloomberg's evolution on this topic and his comments from this past week are telling. some in the administration have said they want to try them now in a rural area. well, i'm from a rural area. and speaking for a rirl state, i can tell you that we want nothing to do with those trials in our state. aside from the security concerns and costs, domestic terror trials have exposed sensitive, classified information in the past and have given intelligence to al qaeda. the examples are well-known. i need not recount them. former judge, former attorney general mike mackazie spoke eloquentably that. some have tried to contradic