he spoke about how it is for the very 1st time that the global south is getting a voice on the follow for joe was that farms remembered was seen the out that initiated the voice of the global self summit. and this was in jan. this c, r and this was the, essentially a modeling. does your long g, 20 presidency aware or? well, 100 countries basically spoke about the issues of issues really, which are so to see or down if occasions of the conflicts or which the west is engaging. no 120 countries have been invited this time as well. and uh, as far as this, uh, a 2nd goal to solve the summit is concerned. its going to be on a bush was that form. it is divided around 10 sessions. these are going to be diesel. going to be talking about p values such as i know g trade, also climate financed it out to for them and the seating sessions as well. that all been lined up all to the day. but he's in all the real session that in the movie also pointed out, in fact, all the condemned, the civilian debts that are taking fees in the rest of the conflict, which really as far as this global south summit is

and the 2nd was of the global south so made, he spoke about how it is for the very 1st time of the global south eas, getting a voice on father full job with platforms remembered with india that initiated the boys in the global south on this. and this was in jan, this c, r, and this was essentially a bottling does your long g, 20 presidency a where or well 100 countries basically spoke about the issue was an issue is really, which are sold to see or donald vacations of the conflicts or which so west is engaged in. no 120 countries have been invited to stein as well. and uh, as far as this, uh, a 2nd, go to solve the summit is concerned, its going to be on a watch one platform. it is divided around 10 sessions. these are going to be, uh, these are going to be talking about the e mail, such as i know g played also climate finance that out to for them and the cd sessions as well. that all been lined off all to the day. but he's in all the recession, the movie also pointed out, in fact, all the condemned, the civilian debts that are taking these in the west african conflict of which really as

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middle eastern the conflict directly, yes, but i am currently working on our relations with the global south to leave again for south africa and from there to latin america, and i can imagine how difficult it will be for us. in this situation, because in all our previous trips, when we said that ukraine needed, well, the interests of ukraine were lobbied, we were always told, why is this the west supports ukraine, but forgets about palestine and other conflicts, and now well, it is absolutely clear that this has become the number one topic for these countries, and here is our connection, that we're in the same package with israel, what the president has done... he's done obviously the right thing in terms of relations in terms of american politics and generally domestic american politics and foreign policy as well, but on a global scale that we're in the same basket with israel we find ourselves, it works against us, such an unfortunately contradictory, such an unfortunately contradictory international relationship, so thinking about a potential, say, zelski, if that were the case, i do n't

and the global south south is still struggling because of of that destruction. africa cannot easily rise again after what they've done to africa. yeah, and the same is true in other parts of the world. but for younger people in my own country, many young people, they were under the illusion that the west was the land. human rights and the west was, now everyone sees the reality, all my students, they see reality, everyone knows what's going on now, they've destroyed themselves, not just in my country, but everywhere and in their own countries, because increasingly despite the the the law, the laws banning protests and banning slogans and banning flags and the propaganda and the demonization, you're seeing unprecedented rallies across the west, not just heroic jews, but everyone, maybe they're not a majority in some places, but they've broken the back of this hegemonic, these hegemonic institutions that control the west. time will be free, we charge you with genocide, we charge you with the river, این ها نشون دادن این دشمنان ما که چقدر شقی و در این راه حتی از کشت

are you at all concerned that in the effort to win the battle of the global south that we are sometimes putting our principles aside to make sure they are on our side saying ukraine and china? sen. coons: the challenge of global leadership is to have and hold to core values, particularly human rights. despite our own real domestic challenges around this. and to engage with brazil, pakistan, countries in southeast asia. and recognize their challenges and privately, criticize and challenge each other. but frankly, we are also in a period of some needed humility. the president of kenya reached out to me after january 6 to say we would be happy to offer you election observers. i simply had to say thank you, i appreciate the offer. the number of conversations i had with leaders of other countries after january 6 where they looked at us and said, it is not so easy, is it? a little bit of humility is called for. democracy is hard. here and each other, educating each other. finding a path forward that we invigorates our democracy is the best response to that, not simply pounding on other countr

but i do say that much of the global south is not taking decide to despite the fact that this is a ball active progression. and i think that is in many respects, a consequence of a world in which many immersion powers are hatching in which china is now the lender of 1st resort and much of the global. so in which 2 thirds of the countries of the world trade war with china, that makes it with the united states. and so the country like india, like south africa, nigeria, brazil, indonesia. they don't want to take sides in what looks like a new era of east west rivalry. and as a consequence, there see the trends, even though i think this is a more that is very clearly a word of aggression against ukraine in which countries, at least ethically and morally, should band together against russia. in the case of israel war with how boss, i think it's, it's more complicated in the sense that the israel palestine conflict is one in which there are doing verging opinions about morality, about ethics, about legality, about human re, lights that have divided the united states and many other parts of th

is just an euphemism, it’s just zilch , nothing, behind the global south lie not politically correcto, mr. joseph nye, behind this lies real strength. yes, countries that yesterday were humanoid animals for you, or as the dutch put it, third-class people who can be destroyed, we started with this, this is the fundamental difference between us and them, we seem to perceive everyone as equal, for us there is no difference between a murdered palestinian and a jewish child, but for them there is, for them there are people of the first and third class, and somewhere between them there is a second class, maybe in eastern europe , okay, live, for now, by the way, well, from israel there were voices such condemnations of russia, we will take revenge, we will support ukraine, and then a former general of the israeli army suddenly came out with a rather, well, an unusual statement for israel. ukraine, a strange phenomenon that has arisen between east and west, i do not want to go into the details of the ukrainian conflict, but this has nothing to do with us. no relation, and the fact is that i

it's this has been doing some ways to exploit the issue to try to raise a profile in the global south. and in some ways, i think it's a consequence. it's position is going to further inflamed the tensions that we see out there to tween the west. the united states on the one hand, china on the other. a truly, i want to play a sound clip for you from secretary of state, tony blinking. let's listen. keep water, electricity for children, for the elderly, for the sick. these are present improvements, new targets. he's heading them hard. this brutalization of ukraine's people is barbaric. so i'm just sort of interested in one the hypocrisy of the moment, you know, talking about the same device as being used to turn something off and are not being able to talk about with regard to israel. and then trying to help the other side. why their response has been so pathetically small? well, you know, i think that the united states has made clear from the beginning that it has not. it is best to get the border crossing to egypt open to get a flowing has been discussing with israel howard prosecute t

including the collective west, in other words and including particularly the muslim countries of the global south. this is a time for global alliances in opposition to the outrage of israel's policy of genocide uh vis the palestinian people. all right, thank you for that. let me bring back charles carlson. to the picture, co-founder of uh, we hold these truths, um, charles carlson, welcome back, uh, our guest talked about the uh global uh impact that the genocidal war has had when it comes to... uh the gaza strip, but there's more dimensions when it comes to the conflict between israel and palestinians, people have taken to social media to have an idea about what's going on because of the biased media narratives to western media in particular, um, how much of an impact has that had when it comes to shaping the psychy of the people when they take a look at this war? well, question is where does the power structure in the united states really come from, what supports this? structure that allows the the wishes of the state of israel uh to precede the better interest of the rest of the world, and the

the global south, which our interlocutor spoke about , is really on the rise. and populous representative is india, about the changing identity of the country, vgtrk correspondents from new delhi. india is opening a new page in its history, and it is happening here, in the center of newley, from the old parliament building, built more than a century ago by british architects, to the new one, just a few meters away, they are literally across the road, this is of course very symbolic, 75 years behind us, since independence, there is a new stage ahead, and the indian authorities consider this stage to be historic; since the fall, parliamentarians have already been working hard in the new building with the construction of the british era, which has witnessed the historic adoption of the constitution of independent india; according to the prime minister, a lot is connected, but the time has come to accept historical decisions, one of the distinctive features of this session is that a journey of 75 years is now beginning on a new page. the colonial past is remembered

but is he, as you just said, essentially making a play to the global south. and again, taking advantage of this moment to maximize china's position of looking like the good player in the world. you know, i think the china, that is, that is somewhat ambivalence about the war and the brain. and now the word that we see in the middle east, in the sense that the chinese have risen to a cig to become a significant player on the back of g o, political and g o e phenomena stability. and even though they've sided with food and supporter at least nominal way rushes war against ukraine, i'm not sure that they see this as a net gain for china. and that's again because this is leading to global fragmentation, it is leading to economic di copland. and as it tends to fine, china is rivalry with the united states and the west. but i think you're right steve, that what china is doing here is in some ways attempting to stay out of these conflicts. yeah. at the same time, explain them to increase its standing in the global sat to play the role of the country. we've been standi

out... how they're going to manage the the the fallout from all of this, because of course, the global souths there. is is so badly exposed with what they've done, their callossness, their lack of empathy, their genocidal um provarications, their infanticidal uh if you like, tactics and strategy, i mean they've left them very exposed, and i think that's probably more uh what is going on in the background, of course uh israel itself has got internal problems, so there there are all going to have to work it out, but i think that uh ultimately uh it's probably still going... to continue, i don't think they've achieved the full objectives, although they could go away now and do what the israelis always do, which is to say, okay, they killed uh, maybe 1,1200 supposedly uh israelis on october the 7th, we've gone and killed 12,000, only of course it happens to be 12,000 largely women and children, but that doesn't matter to them, so i think a a strategic level, israel is, i mean if if it decides to go further, they've got warnings from... the foreign minister of iran and several others, saying, oka

including the collective west, in other words and including particularly the muslim countries of the global south, this is a time for global alliances, in opposition to the outrage of israel's policy of genacide. the palestinian people. all right, thank you for that. let me bring back charles carlson into the picture. co-founder of uh, we hold these truths. um, charles, carlson, welcome back, our guests talked about the uh global uh impact that the genocidal war has had when it comes to uh, the gaza strip, but there's more dimensions when it comes to the conflict between israel and palestine. people have taken to social media to uh have an idea about what's going on because of the biased media narratives to western media in particular um how much of an impact has that had when it comes to shaping the psychy of the people when they take a look at this war? well the question is where does the power structure in the united states really come from what supports this power structure that allows the the wishes of the state of israel uh to preceed the better interest of the rest of the world, and the th

one, the region, the middle east of the global south. and the 2nd one is the middle east, and when we're looking at what changes do i get statements, it's actually, it's very much focused on how to best position itself within the, our world, the world and to show itself as an alternative to the us. and i think that's uh, and i think we're seeing more of the big issue is i think an interesting point is whether or not the recent warming and relations between china in the us. and we saw president biden to change and been made last week, put him back and conduct made the chinese actually paper more of a proposal or for medic position to the conference daily afternoon. thank you so much for joining us. and that's it for the program. you can find more asian news on dw social media channels. i melissa chance. thank you for watching. good by the, we've got some hot tips for your package. the magic corner. feel free to you. check on some great cultural memorials to boot w travel. we go. what i mean, i know i might just do it and i'm hosting dw ne

, because putin and china have a plan to create the global south plus, the so-called, what our externalntelligence says about it, and this is true, i confirm this, because they want to create, and who would be part of this plus, mr. ruslan? yes , and if we are talking about china, a commemorative meeting recently took place in san francisco, president biden and xijin ping talked, and xijin pin decided extremely delicately, you know, with the skill inherent in the chinese, he formulated, you know , the proposal to divide the world, well, of course, the spheres of influence and so on, but we understand what he meant, so therefore south plus and san francisco, yes. south plus and san francisco, so look, china since the 13th year, when he announced his strategy, the society of common destiny, so-called, he has been pursuing a policy of penetration into africa, the middle east, latin america, southeast asia, and by the way, it practically dominates in these regions, in africa , chinese investments take first place, the countries of latin america switched to swaps and trade in the yuan and in

so this is a real time, lifetime debate where i think our friends from the global south have a great opportunity to register with beijing how these relationships should be managed in the future, particularly on questions of scheduling, particularly in terms of how to prevent any sovereign debt long term with the debt of a country from spiraling spoke a more general debt crisis if those countries become incapable of servicing their debts. so this is a real live debate now for policy circles in beijing and across the global south, as you see. >> thank you. >> to add, i don't think china is going to be as generous of its wealth because they've really faced the reality of the burden and countries which can pay them. we've already seen a change of trend with china also being much more cautious. >> a question from the zoom number. >> we'll take our next virtual question from james gilmore. >> thank you very much. i'm jim gilmore, the immediate united states ambassador for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. when we started this discussion, all three ambassadors seemed

hour ago with serhii djerzh about the fact that india is painting itself as the leader of the global southat ukraine is against doing this, please tell me, not directly the participation of china, how did you see it, well, of course, if there were representatives of china, as it was in the previous meeting, it would be positive, but i would not dramatize this situation either, i think china is now preparing as much as possible for the meeting between president biden and between svidpin, that is, they are working as much as possible again on this meeting at the highest level, which will most likely take place, it was announced that it will take place, although i always advise to wait, still , because there may also be contexts that are unforeseen, and given that this meeting is scheduled for the month of november, i think that the chinese colleagues have taken a certain pause, perhaps, or they ... were not yet ready to be actively involved directly in this meeting though assumes that after the meeting at the highest level between the usa and china, china's activity will resume, so to speak,

the shockwaves across the global south and impacting the cost of living around the world.hose are the kinds of scenarios that need to be prepared to grapple with >> when you look at the world complex today, you understand there are completing blocs the western response in the hamass is to not fight the western was aligned and nato countries were aligned the global south is not clear cut with the desire to defend or support ukraine and military efforts. what can we extract from that? >> that is the central challenge of the biden administration and actually the trump administration before them which was thinking through they call it strategic competition. the idea is western democracies, u.s. allies and partners, that are democratically involved believe china and russia is not just using military force, but using economic coercion and spreading misinformation and all of the tricks which they are using against our democracies. how do we protect our democracies? how do we shore things up so that we can have this world in which we want to live in that advances human rights and

one, the region, the middle east, and the global south. and the 2nd one is the middle east, and when we're looking at what changes do i get statements or attraction, it's very much focused on how to best position itself within the, our world, the world to show itself as an alternative to the us. and i think that's uh, and i think we're seeing more of the issue is, i think an interesting point is whether or not the recent warming and relations between china in the us. and we saw president biden to change and been made last week for does have an impact on the product made the chinese actually paper more of opposing it'll or for medic position to the call daily afternoon. thank you so much for joining us. and that's it for the program, you can find more asian news on dw social media channels. i melissa chance. thank you for watching. good bye. the there's too much an entrepreneur in tamil nadu shows how were sparkling and kenny was in his lungs and come to tools. electronical devices all dismantled and absolutely everything that is still usab

digesting it, i don't think that those of us in the in the global south even expected it, i think that we have become so used to the idea of a useless western program of human rights and so called speak of international law, that in many ways, those of us in the global south have learned a long time ago that international law and the idea of human rights is only reserved for western countries and that it only gets used and weaponized against african countries, countries in south america, countries in in asia and and elsewhere. so i think that in in some ways this the last four weeks has really stripped the west and has really exposed the global north for the kind of facade that it has been imposing on the global community, but specifically when it comes to international politics and when it comes to international law, in many ways, we those of us in the global south and come and that and and and that are viewing the ways in which the us the way in which britain and and and the european union have reacted to this to to the current onslot, to the current violence and to the current attac

one, the region, the middle east, the global south, and the 2nd one is the middle east. and when we're looking at what charges do i get statements, it's actually, it's very much focused on how to best position itself within the, our world, the world and to show itself as an alternative to the us. and i think that's uh, and i think we're seeing more of the big issue is i think an interesting point is whether or not the recent warming and relations between china in the us. and we saw president bite and the change in been made last week for the impacts and conduct made the chinese actually take a more of a puzzle or for medic position to the conference daily afternoon. thank you so much for joining us. and that's it for the program, you can find more asian news on the w social media channels. i melissa chance. thank you for watching and good by the registrar to use use your thoughts? see what grade the shuttle the kind of energy move people than eva on the world wide in such a bed. nearby, facile jessica middle passage. gosh. find out about robina story info, migraines. the

does it strengthen its position in the global south? >> i think that's a -- that's a nuanced answer. if we want to speak simply, yes. especially when it comes to advertise real/hamas come flikt. many peel a sense of solidarity with the people in gaza. to see the u.s. is supporting israel, despite the large tonnage of bombs that israel is dropping on the gaza strip, to global south audiences, it can feel like are ducks of imperialistic war. to be clear, hamas committed a massacre in israel. i don't think that's slur in china. the sense that beijing's leaders are presenting a source of power in the world, that can offer alternative to what the u.s. offers and has offered in the middle east. that's appealing. and to speak less broadly on the global south, among arab populations, that the chinese government has been targeting. certainly this, has great appeal to see that beijing is not taking hamas' side. but has refused to condemn hamas and has criticized israel and the u.s. for what beijing says is going beyond the measures that would hav

the most important thing, it seems to me, is that the illusion is this, this is the global south, we illusion, because at one time, you know, they shyly called the countries of the first, then the first second world, well, in the sense of capitalist and around the soviet union, the third world, these are like countries, then they became, you know, let’s call them developing, and so on, then select the countries of the fourth world, these are especially poor countries, they began to say in relation to them no, these countries will never be selected. the fourth world, yes, the fourth world, this is right, this is right in the middle of 2010, well, i can kind of say this, now countries will appear of the fifth world, and these countries of the fifth world are precisely the countries of this very west , for which the trend will not be upward, like many, so to speak, ambitious countries of this so-called global south, but for the europeans, who, for example, there will be a downward trend in which they have not lived for a very long time, have not lived for a very long time, in fact, who

so our colleagues, especially from the global south south for many months. and this is something that is the reasoning very well inside them, because a lot of our colleagues in the united nations asked for peace. but when they asked these to our uh, west and colleagues, uh, they simply put everything uh, all the blame on russia. that's quite sure that they tried to present one picture, and the revelation was let me start off. i'm in the absolutely broke these picture . and each they show that the ukraine was prevented from accepting the the pieces deal with the rest, which was quite favorable. and did i think you're going to start off? i mean, she's interview acknowledges that this was not a bad deal at this time. but down came the boys, johnson, i said that we have, we will have to fight them, we will find them. and this was absolutely driven not by you bring them into the spot by the interest of some members of for some establishment in particular. mr. johnson as the thing called foot drives on civilians suffer from the persistent shedding like cubes match

and the 2nd was the global south summit. he spoke about how.

north and the global south , this, of course, is the dignity of the democratic party, ifr will still strengthen in... they can not only establish such generally more or less normal relations with us, but with the same saudi arabia and with the same, even with china, oddly enough, despite the wild sinophobia that actually exists in the republican party, oddly enough they can also come to an agreement with them, as they actually did in their time in the seventy-second year, here on in fact, their antagonism towards the undemocratic world is much weaker. for russia this does not seem very beneficial to me, for russia it is beneficial that this antagonism is maintained at, well, at least the current level, but at the same time the democrats are much more focused the unity of the west, precisely on anti-russian and anti-chinese positions, this is probably not very good for us, or on the other hand, we have already given up, it seems to me that we gave up and did the right thing, it seems to me that this is exactly where we are, absolutely, to me seems right, because the hope i

ukraine built that way, that is, it built a balance, and here after the events in israel, the global south, after this article, the telephone conversation of the president with the prince of saudi arabia, the telephone conversation with the emir of qatar, the telephone conversation with president par, the telephone conversation with the president of turkey, malta, which was so fleetingly mentioned, let's talk about it, well, what a global world turned away. from ukraine, when 66 countries are present in malta, you were there, and most of they are the countries of the global rooster, then we chose atakamsa for so long, so what a failure, we are successfully advancing on the f-16, so what is this failure, what is it about, what is the general mood of pessimism, fear and so on, mr. timofey he said very correctly, absolutely normal communication, the president listens to everyone, but he makes the decisions , he is not the president, but there is no, no one has 100 billion, so far, no one has 100 billion, in israel there is no, no, still has to sign, no, there really are two chambers, yes stru

, the rest of the global south, by the way , china also took a very clear position on nuclear weapons from the very beginning, speaking clearly to russia, by the way, this was said by the former presidents of ukraine, no no nuclear power can blackmail, threaten stagnation nuclear weapons, to a non-nuclear state or other states, sir, let's go, nuclear weapons are clear, nuclear. blackmail, nuclear terror, well, we saw a rocket a week ago that flew to a nuclear plant, yes, and before that we saw the seizure and ongoing seizure of the zaporizhia nuclear plant and so on, how about this for the americans, this is a red line, for the americans this is a red line and i agree with mr. oleksandr about deterrence, it is important that not only the americans join this, there is not one nuclear power in the world, we are talking about what you see here again, with your permission, i will return to the peace formula, what is the peace formula, it is the coercive pressure of the leading states. of the world to russia in other spheres than only on the battlefield, because on the battlefield we fight

community, and today new players have come to the forefront of world politics, representing the global southe global east, and their number is growing, we call them and absolutely, justified by the world majority, they are not in words, in deeds strengthening their sovereignty in the decision topical issues, demonstrate... consistency in putting their national interests at the forefront, and not someone else's whims. to illustrate, by the way, i will quote a statement from my indian colleague, foreign minister jai shankara that the world is much more than europe, well, it is clear that the meaning of this statement is that the world is much more than the west. russia consistently advocates for the democratization of interstate communication and for a more equitable distribution of global benefits. and, probably, we shouldn’t look far for examples of how multipolarity manifests itself today, especially in the context of regional crises; multipolarity also encourages countries in different regions to show solidarity; the current outbreak the palestinian-israeli conflict became a catalyst for s

the global south has a loud voice in international affairs, and this must be reflected in the procedureswill not be able to play a role in maintaining international peace and our interlocutor spoke really on the rise: its most colorful and populous representative is india, about the changing self-awareness of the country, vgtrk correspondents from new delhi. india is turning a new page in its history and it is happening here in the center of newley, from the old parliament house, built more than a century ago, with independence ahead. new stage. and the indian authorities consider this stage historical; since the fall, parliamentarians have already been working in the new building with the construction of the british era, which witnessed the historical adoption of the constitution of independent india. according to the prime minister , a lot is connected, but the true development of the country is confident that fashion is ahead. it's time to accept historical decisions. one of the distinctive features of this session is that a journey of 75 years now begins with. the colonial past is re

other countries which for us does not work so well for us and so... so our mobilization in the global south policies especially, but also... uh, our governments recognize that we are their voters and therefore they go by our aspirations, and our aspirations as the african people are definitely deep rooted into our deep history of colonialization, and so this must influence how our foreign policy uh is is is conceived, well the... you have it, african people stand with palestine and the governments in the continent need to be tandem with the aspirations of the people that voted for them. well and that brings us to the end of the another episode of africa today. it's always great having you watch the show. you can watch this episode and all of this shows on our website pressv. iir. thanks lot for watching and goodbye for now. press headlines iran's leader strongly condemns israeli atracities against palestinians calling for a halt to exports of oil and other essentials to the regime.

across the arab world, and i think you see much of the same across, quotote unquote, the global southrussels among many european governments, where they recognize it would be very difficult, as european countries, as the west, to engage with countries in the global south and the arab world on issues that demand the common recognition of international law because, frankly, they don't take it seriously. when we talk about occupation of ukraine by russian forces, they turn around and say, okay, maybe, but why aren't you talking about the israeli occupation, when we talk about international law being violated in ukraine, but they turn around and say you are defending or excusing israeli actions in gaza. it's a very difficult argument to push against because the fact of the matter is, is the overwhelming of member states of the united nations have voted consistently over the past month in one direction, and the united states and a few western allies have voted in another direction, alongside israel, so yes. i think credibility is a greater problem here. it's particularly bad in terms of ef

in the un security council and for us it is our historical duty therefore as the nations of the global south to stand in solidarity with to stand for justice but also in solidarity for or palestine, and this can only be through us pushing our governments to withdraw uh relations, diplomatic relations with israel. african countries are facing yet another round of higher costs, particularly skyrocketing fuel prices following israeli regimes's genocide and atrocities against palestinians. now this factor is enough to push african governments to compel the israeli regime to end its crimes on. the leader of south african economic freedom fighters party juliaus malemema recently led a pro palestinian rally outside the israeli regime embassy in pretoria. he called for the closure of all israeli embassies in africa. let's take a listen. these are terrorists here, and we can't legitimize the terrorists. we must never give them the respect that we give to the deputy ambassador. of palestine, these people here have got no respect for humanity and for life, now this uh question is for suheil omar there,

are doing, but there's the whole western financial system is in trouble, there's a move of the global south against the colonial system, and the gaza situation is an example of that, it's a rebellion against uh being... treated as as a colonial captive nation, and so the reaction from the people is going to be important. now keep in mind there's a presidential election coming up in the united states, so far biden seems to be betting that between the control of the media and the corrupt democrats and republicans in the congress that they'll be able to continue this support for israel and support for ukraine. but the ukraine situation is already turned, i think what we're going to see is a growing sense of anger at the us government, and look, i'm here in germany, there's a growing sense of anger at the coalition government here, macront is at 23% of support in france, sunak is about 30%. all these western governments that think they can rule by the power of their military are making a mistake, their military is not capable. of destroying the spirit of the people, as we see from the resistanc

to balance its relationships between western traditional kind of trading partners and and and global south essentially saying that it's making uh it's making a choice beyond just balancing and that it's willing to take whatever consequences they might be, the consequences from israel are irrelevant, south africa can really do without israel in terms of trade and anything else, but of course what's important is the consequences from other western partners, particularly the united states, which is south africa's second biggest trading partner. name speaking with us earlier, now my guests ibrahimsat and lamperini thoma are still with me, let me start with uh lamperini thomo with this question, and that is anything you want to pick up on, what um naim gina said there about the south african example, was i was in south africa to cover the brick summit, past august, it's a very live. people, the memories are there and i think that's the why they see palestine as the and this the madella connection of course, because he was a palestine fighter in his own way, and he never forgot the help the pale

post-reality, to impose in countries, this... they disperse throughout all the countries of the global southwinning the war, in order to create a post-real one there, in order to disrupt our rapprochement with them, well, how afraid they are, i thought to myself, why are they so afraid? , but i understand that this is what they are afraid of, they are afraid of the fact that russia for the first time, truly, directly declared who it is in this very future world, and that you can follow the same path, you don’t have to become russian, you have to become yourself yourself, there is no need to dress up your identity as some western or there is no need to strip away your economy and economic sovereignty, this is what they are afraid of, i imagine what they will write in these digests tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, after that, because they act, as they say, based on the principle of one bottle, they are not so idiots that i don’t understand what happened today, these are my thoughts, advertising, it means that we are now driving along the berdyansk-vasilievka highway, on the right side we have