to negotiate and unreliability, and this a very healthy process that frees the countries of the global southst from the risks of manipulation by the former... something like a cooperation network for regional subregional processes in the countries of asia, africa, latin america, a cooperation network that... will promote the harmonization of the development of integration in the countries of the world majority at the global level. let me emphasize once again that i know all this, i talked with my colleagues, these topics were discussed at the level of our presidents and prime ministers. let me emphasize once again that all this is in no way intended to create a new mechanism. meetings of brix representatives within the framework of the russian chairmanship of the organization. now a short advertisement, and then we will be back, stay tuned. alfabank is the best loyalty program for business. we pay 3,000 rubles. for opening an account and up to 10% cashback for expenses. i pay for techno. cyberweek at megamark. buy thousands of products with cashback up to 50%. just spend gigabytes and minute

for example, ukraine and its allies from the g7 continue to oppose the countries of the global south, because they, in turn, insist on ukraine's direct interaction with russia. according to the results of the meeting, he writes bloomberg, kyiv and its allies under attack. stated that a just peace involves respect for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine and that support for ukraine will continue, and the european union and the united states are confident that aid packages will be agreed upon. the white house refused to comment on this secret meeting, and the governments of ukraine and saudi arabia did not respond to bloomberg reporters' requests for comments prior to the publication of this text. in russia , such meetings without their participation are publicly condemned, but the interlocutor is not named publication bloomberg, close to the kremlin , said that at the end of last year there could be some contacts that tested interest in the ceasefire agreement. i would like to note that this secret meeting took place 10 days after the visit of russian president putin t

global south who want an— countries in the global south who want an immediate ceasefire, disagree _ disagree with people that don't say that. and so that means you are in disagreement and so perhaps your standing _ disagreement and so perhaps your standing will suffer in some way, but i _ standing will suffer in some way, but i don't — standing will suffer in some way, but i don't think we should just accept — but i don't think we should just accept that and do nothing about it. ithink— accept that and do nothing about it. i think we _ accept that and do nothing about it. i think we have to make our case very— i think we have to make our case very vigorously, as i do. i know when _ very vigorously, as i do. i know when i — very vigorously, as i do. i know when i meet south african foreign ministers, — when i meet south african foreign ministers, i would say i want this conflict _ ministers, i would say i want this conflict to— ministers, i would say i want this conflict to end as soon as possible, i conflict to end as soon as possible, i don't _ conflict to end as soon as possible,

and what does that mean for— global south now. and what does that mean for the _ global south now. the global - global south now. and what does that mean for the global north? | that mean for the global north? we talk about this on our programme at this time of day but in terms of the general conversation about this in the key economies in the world, i.e., the us, europe, etc, are they taking more notice? i think so. you can see even the former british foreign secretary last year mr cleverley made a speech about how global governance institutions, he said, they needed to be reformed to the un security council needed to be widened. so, there is recognition in the global north that there does need to be reformed. but of course, this is about power politics too and countries in the global north are finding it difficult to accept they are being contested, competed with in the way that they are. and they will lose some power and so, this is what i think this is all about too.— this is what i think this is all about too. _, ., ., i. all about too. good to get your take. interesting. _ all

why, because there is a so-called global south, not so many countries, well, this region, this globalth presented at dovozki. but nevertheless, there are quite a few of them there, and we have not reached them yet, that is, we do not see such a universal, let's say, solidarity with russia, excuse me with ukraine, from the countries of the global south, some of them have changed their neutral position, well, since the beginning of the large-scale aggression, more or less in favor. ukraine, but the vast majority of these countries, it takes such a positive, neutral position, that is, it sympathizes with ukraine, whether they are in these countries, i mean, but not less, they have not yet agreed to our proposals and are not ready, as it seems to me, to take such a really active part in the negotiations regarding what will happen after the victory in... ukraine, here we are talking about its different conditions, different reasons, e- well, some of the countries believe that ukraine should still cede part of its sovereignty, and this by no means, of course, does not suit us, and our partn

is very good, here at these forums, where different countries and countries are present of this global southerforms very well as a communicator, well, we have to look further, what will actually happen, because it has already been announced that switzerland will be the place where a global summit will be held, ah, about russian aggression in ukraine, about finding a way out. well, it’s good to say about it, it’s good that the swiss agree, but 80 representatives of the country’s organizations took part in this fourth meeting on ukraine, according to zelenskyi’s peace formula, but there is work and work, that is, i think that we ourselves still do not fully imagine , what we can, or what we really want to achieve from it global... summit and what, what results, perhaps there is a certain strategy here, you know, as they say, strategic uncertainty, yes, which gives room for maneuver, but i think... that the numbers are good, that already 80 countries and organizations take part in this, but we understand that they all hold different, different views, even if they condemn russian aggression, so

genocides in congo and... and namibia, my neighbors for example, what this has shown is that we in the global south can now use international law and will use international law in order to protect ourselves against powerful nations of the global north, and so i think from that perspective as well, it's it's a very important kind of fact that this was taken to the icj and the ruling of the icg. correct, and ali, let's look at this from moral standpoint. how is it possible for for example the israeli military call it to call itself the world's most moral uh military yet commit such heinous acts against the palestinians in the gaza strip or the americans who lecture the world about morality and yet support and sponsor and arm a genocide at the hands of the israelies against the palestinians. how do we explain this? it's unexplainable um but i think what is important is the fact that in israel at the moment 80% plus are pro war, i think that's where we need to kind of you know look into and see why those opinions have not been shifted yet, as you quite widely pointed out, lot of young jews in states es

today's the, the global south. they have their own local media. and people in social media are talking about the history of palestine. what's been going on and gaza for the last 15 years. the constant air strikes and mass killings that we've seen over the years in gaza. so people see the world, and they see cause a different than before. they are getting their information from different sources . so the west is seen as implicated as they've been supporting this way in the machine. and kirby again has said that the u. s. as opposed to a cease fire, so the west is hitting it and it's not just the united states, the europeans by remaining quiet or obedience, they are losing just like the americans. and then on the other hand, if, if the israelis are condemned, if the judges take a stance against is riley regime, then it's a loss for these raves. but if they don't, and this politics get in the way, as you alluded to, then the so called international order takes another hit and did the hold of you and the whole un security council. all of the instituti

genocides in congo and and namibia, my neighbors for example, what this has shown is that we in the global south can now use international law and will use international law in order to protect ourselves against powerful nations of the global north, and so i think from that perspective as well, it's it's a very important kind of fact that this was taken to the icj and the ruling of the icj, correct? and ali uh let's look at this from moral standpoint: how is it possible for for example the israeli military call it to call itself the world's most moral uh military yet commit such heinous acts against the palestinians in the gaza strip or the americans who lecture the world about morality and yet support and sponsor and arm a genocide uh at the hands of the israelis against the palestinians. how do we explain this? it's unexplainable, but i think what is important is the fact that in israel at the moment, 80% plus are pro war, i think that's where we need to kind of look into and see why those opinions have not been shifted yet, as you quite widely pointed out, lot of uh young jews in states espec

in what leaders in the global south are talking about that that's, it is amazing observation. i agree with you completely. if you look at the broad shapes in new york times, washington post, say a wall street journal, they're not talk to you about the conflict that all of us are watching in real time . and that's what, that's what so infuriating is because, you know, you, we could go through the weapons of mass destruction, all we made a mistake, you know, that was an oversight, you know, and then you know, the russia gate hoax, you know, no one's apologize for this but they don't even apologize now for what for blayton lies, they think they go all of you better aware of the systematic rape on october 7th, which has been completely debunked. ok line on. i mean, this is that division. it's not only between the leads and public seer, it's what we're, you know, it's what's true and what's false. go ahead line. oh, i scott fitzgerald said that little lies are hard to keep under wraps. but big lies are easy because of are in crude jewelry. yeah, you mentioned the rate one of one th

so we have the west versus the global south again. and as our guests in washington dc, dc pointed out, is all going to get down to politics of nation states on this chord here. and it's going to be the west against everybody else. they, they, they, they don't seem to understand how much they are alienating the rest of the world. and the way things are going, i don't think anyone's gonna say will base daughter ever ever again. thank god, go ahead and turn it on. yes, it's a lose lose situation. so one of the wes from the very beginning they were on board with the genocide. they try to make this about october the 7th and to pretend that history began on october the 7th. but we live in a different world. today's the global south, they have their own local media and people in social media are talking about the history of palestine. what's been going on and gaza for the last 15 years . the constant air strikes and mass killings that we've seen over the years in gaza . so people see the world and they see cause a different than before, they

they are increasingly doing business and trading with countries of the global south.ou and i, as well as your viewers, know that the global economy has moved from the west to the east. thus, many trading partners, potential investors in business, technology, industry is no longer in the west. what did iran do after the sanctions were imposed? he began to look for new partners. it was a very difficult task because for a long time iran was alone. but this situation allowed him to create innovations in the country, put us on our feet, allowed us to start producing goods at home. a little over a year ago i went to sochi for a conference, it was dedicated to new technologies, there was an exhibition of high-tech companies, startups, when i studied and looked at products various companies, one of my iranian colleagues told me that many parts of the product that are no longer available... iran was forced to produce them. thus, thanks to this situation, iran has become stronger in many ways despite the difficulties. and now the united states has acted recklessly, they have im

game but i think uh it will be up to uh countries outside the west in the muslim world in the global south to the un and other places to take action, but also i think civil society uh groups in in the west uh and in other parts of the world uh and even individual states who could then claim uh like yemen uh stopping the shipping that they are doing this to prevent a genocide which uh um you know which will be the case and we have here successful in the uk uh protesters. successfully stopped a arms manufacturer um uh uh from sending arms to israel, they were taken to court, the court found them not guilty, it will give civil society and politics outside of parliamentts uh a chance to hold their representatives to account to force them to act uh specifically against the state of israel. and to put pressure on them uh, but ultimately, i think somebody has to stop this uh, you know, with with serious sanctions, the muslim states, and if that doesn't uh work, then i think ultimately this will not be stopped unless there is military action. right, let's also uh bring in latifa abuchakra who's re

ithink it has and i think the risk is - global south, has it not? ed with. in turn, china sees that as an opportunity to pull them away from the post—2nd world war rules —based international order, which is so important to our prosperity and our security. so we have a situation now where, if you remember 30 years ago, there was talk about the end of history, with the death of the soviet union, the death of communism and liberal democracy had won. actually, we are entering a phase now where for the first time since the second world war, the ultimate triumph of liberal democracy and market economy can no longer be taken for granted and that is a deep concern.— is a deep concern. talking democracies, _ is a deep concern. talking democracies, half - is a deep concern. talking democracies, half the - is a deep concern. talking . democracies, half the world's population will be having elections this year. 0bviously population will be having elections this year. obviously we are focused on america, we have the iowa caucuses on monday. i was very struck by l

the world what was then called third world is now called sometimes the developing world or, the global south. so there been lots of studies of cold war literature, most of have focused on what happened in the united states and the soviet union, but i started to do my research on this. i learned that the u.s. and soviet union in the competition between them had an incredible effect on literary development in other parts of the world, especially africa, asia and the caribbean, which were the focus of this book now of offering a sort of overview and somatic overview instead of reading novels poetry and plays and about what is the effect ideological competition cold war competition in places in the south. i decided in book that i wanted to focus on two of the mechanism arms in which large states got directly in literary competition in the global south. the first of those areas is in what i call war cultural diplomacy. the united states and soviet union sponsored libraries. they sponsored music tours. they sponsored cultural events, they sponsored museums, they sponsored book publications and boo

and in the global south, i think is in the is is is a priority second to none in the... long term strategic global interest, um, if i were in the in their shoes, i would definitely join the south africans for both reasons, for moral reasons, because it's the right thing to do, but also for strategic reasons, do i know that they will do that, no idea, no idea, you opened my, you, you actually opened my eyes on this case, you're totally right, i mean these countries are presenting themselves as an alternative right for the us hegemon and... and they will need the public opinion to be on their side, and this was something if i want to focus on the syren case, just to give an example a a micro level, and in syria for example... the russian forces enjoy good relationship with the people there, therefore their operations in syria is easy, let's say, it's it's they're not considered an occupation, i mean if the syrian government invited the russian forces to syria and they acted in a horrible way, let's say with the people like an occupation force, the people will act accordingly, but th

states in january 2020 shocked and enraged the leaders of the world, particularly those in the global south who knew him so well. his contributions to the cause of freedom are legendary. the illegal execution of general qasim sulaymani by the us was heinous act by petulant empire pushed by israel and aided by powerful local actors. in iraq, however, the words of his enemies will never define qasim sulaimani. all palestinian resistance factions recognize and appreciate sulaimani's contributions to the cause. he was instrumental in arming all palestinian resistance groups from hamas and palestinian islamic jihad to the pflp and even fatih. according to talal naji, the pflp's secretary general, iran supplied all palestinian resistance factions, including fatih with weaponry. carried by ship. naji also claims that in order for the ghaza factions to establish their own means of resistance. the late qasim sulaimani's tutilage was essential in constructing the procedures by which the factions produced their own means of defense. naji emphasized how primitive the defense capabilities were prior to

this is a growing international movement of the global south as a challenge against the anglo-american imperial policy, so the idea that somehow this would consolidate an american century in southwest asia was pure foolishness, and and we see that now again with the unleashing of the netanyahu. expansionist regime in israel, the idea that the united states can play a role in this, we we see this as a potential for targeting iran from the united states, and my organization, the schiller institute is doing everything possible to expose the the idiocy of this us policy. right, same question to miss krishna swami, what would the u.s. gain here, why would it want to assassinate a figure that was spirit? the fight against terror in the region a man that you also um addressed earlier was considered to be uh one of the uh main parts, main pillars of uh battling daesh and defeating daesh in iraq, well if you remember in 2013 john kerry actually kind of let the cat out of the bag when he said he was just watching while daesh was coming through to syria to see what was going on so... it it is cle

but so many countries in the global south, not over the china, but also the largest democracy in the world. india are having a beneficial commercial relationship and they're not abandoning vladimir putting same goes for countries in the gulf, including u, a in saudi arabia, to receiving, quote. and with this, the symbols of prestige and welcome is also a way to show to the west uh that, uh, this region as friends. and this is tied to the west side and how do they offer gossett christ and war between israel and a moss. and finally, yes, mr poodle is trying to book this call, listen to the other, what these called the global majority. i don't think that anybody in the global south is really the leading to support and bunch of stuff that's used to where it gets to grade is the rebellion against us had gemini. but so many countries are following the narrow, pragmatic interest and blaming device on double standard. the say, what about iraq, what he bought a gun in stock? and frankly, there was not that much introspection that we convinced this countries that russians were a gastric freigh

for example, from ukraine, regarding cooperation without... directly with the countries of the global south latin america can honestly say that last year was the most active in the last decade in cooperation with latin america, the visit of the president of ukraine took place in december for the visit of the president of argentina. just today, the minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba announced the development of a strategy for relations with the countries of latin america. literally in a year it was formed, well, now ukraine is represented in the region by very experienced ambassadors, such a framework for the restoration of cooperation with this region was formed, since after the 14th year, for some time, attention to of this region has decreased due to economic reasons, due to the consequences of russian aggression against ukraine, and now there is an intensification of relations with this region, and in addition to strategy. development of relations with latin america, activation is taking place at the bilateral level with a number of latin american countries, as was shown, for exam

states in january 2020 shocked and enraged the leaders of the world, particularly those in the global south who knew him so well. his contributions to the cause of freedom are legendary. the illegal execution of general qasim sulaymani by the us was heinous act by petulant empire pushed by israel and aided by by powerful local actors in iraq, however, the words of his enemies will never define qasim sulaimani. all palestinian resistance factions recognize and appreciate sulaimani's contributions to the cause. he was instrumental in arming all palestinian resistance groups from hamas and palestinian islamic jihad to the pflp and even fat. according to talal naji, the pflp's secretary general, iran supplied all palestinian resistance factions, including with weaponry carried by ship. naji also claims that in order for the ghaza factions to establish their own means of resistance. the late qasim sulaimani's tutilage was essential in constructing the procedures by which the factions produced their own means of defense. naji emphasized how primitive the defense capabilities were prior to that. t

but those, we need to have good governments in all the countries in the, in the global south here. and i guess that's the biggest challenge living huge challenges ahead, but we'll leave it there for now. thank you to or about guess nicholas anger and the by uni. and him out because he's and thank you to for watching. remember, you can see this program again any time by visiting our website. that's algebra dot com for further discussion to go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash 8 and 5 story. remember, you can also join the conversation on x a handle that is at a inside story for me and it's not as you can the whole team here in the home, bye for now, the the latest news, as it breaks, rethinking control of the prisons will likely help, well, this immediate emergency with detailed coverage, the war between the army and we are a race of the largest displacement among children in the world that to make children then low vulnerable to being recruited from around the world. the system in russia is beginning to show some planes of fatigue. no one knows what the l

food and has preach to the global south, and he has a fertile round it. so very briefly, it doesn't be moscow is ending the year on something of a high looking better than it did a year ago. the if you look back 2023 has been a really surprising the good year for me start putting and it's really in the hands of the west sun paul listed meeker to make sure the 2024 is not as good for alexander gabriella. it's been good to have your own complex. i'm thank you very much for your time. thank you so much for having we or the sweden and the sorry hun visits the grave of his son who was killed and the conflict between guides to the gun violence is spreading throughout the country. the swedish government doing the focus on the 30 minutes. d. w wide as a move onto the session light sources on 10 nights. and today get the increase in pricing. this is missing with maintenance in here in class with dramatic impacts on biodiversity. the can we come in 75 minutes on dw the we did the urgent life saving boxes week. if i ever seem to reach those who need us the most, eve

in the global south. and those big the question now, where is the moral access globally or i think it's to the, it's to just to follow on what uh michael said to him besides that the, the, when the international legal system reimbursed after world war 2, genocide was its key innovation right, the crime of genocide and was really based in many ways on the idea that the holocaust of a nazi assault against jews was, was unique. so the, the idea that the holocaust was unique was very foundational in the emergence of the crime of genocide. and therefore, israel, when it emerged as the states, the jewish state, the state of the holocaust survivors, it also actually became unique in this international framework. so, impunity for israel was really big into the international legal system from the very beginning. and it was based actually, paradoxically, on the crime of, of genocide, some of the cartridge and the site really served to ensure disappear and it needs a shield israel from international law to, to create

this is a real live debate now for policy in beijing and across the global south. >> i don't think that china is going to be as generous as it was, because the reality of the burden and companies which can pay them already see a change of trend in china also being much more gracious. >> a question from the zoom. >> we will take our next virtual question from james gilmore. >> thank you, very much. i'm james gilmore, the united states ambassador to the organization for security and cooperation in europe. when we started this discussion, all three ambassadors seemed to indicate that stability was the strategic goal that would be desirable. i want to question that. i want to ask whether or not stability should really be our goal. china was happy to be aggressive, and still is. ha but when they end up with domestic problems, and might challenge their party rule. all of a sudden, they want to be stable. nobody wants a war. i'm not suggesting that. but shouldn't we be challenging china's authority or its dominance and its master plan, so to speak, instead of going to stability, which gives th

but we need to have good governance in all the countries in the, in the global south. the not, i guess that's the biggest challenge. one of you. huge challenges ahead, but we'll leave it there for now. thank you to or about guess nicholas on. go back and do you by unit and do my own because he's and thank you to for watching. remember, you can see this program again any time by visiting our website. that's algebra dot com for further discussion to go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash 8 inside story. remember, you can also join the conversation on x a handle that is at a inside story for me. and so as you can, the whole team here in the home by, from the israel has now imposed a complete seal on god's that's so how do they survive if you have no income, how do you live? cost of living rose sharply after the war and ukraine could something like that happen again as a ripple effect of 2000. and one is this us contract is mainly who are benefiting from this. when the price of oil goes up, the cost of almost every thing goes up, counting the cost

so this is a real time, lifetime debate where i think our friends from the global south have a great opportunity to register with beijing how these relationships should be managed in the future, particularly on questions of scheduling, particularly in terms of how to prevent any sovereign debt long term with the debt of a country from spiraling spoke a more general debt crisis if those countries become incapable of servicing their debts. so this is a real live debate now for policy circles in beijing and across the global south, as you see. >> thank you. >> to add, i don't think china is going to be as generous of its wealth because they've really faced the reality of the burden and countries which can pay them. we've already seen a change of trend with china also being much more cautious. >> a question from the zoom number. >> we'll take our next virtual question from james gilmore. >> thank you very much. i'm jim gilmore, the immediate united states ambassador for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. when we started this discussion, all three ambassadors seemed

i i think it's clear now for nations of the global south that there's no possibility of honesty and integrity coming from the united states and from nato, and that's speeding the break with the dollar, the dedollarization is one form of a recognition that the us is using the the weaponization of the dollar to impose its will, and now we're seeing there's an alternative system coming into being, so the the policy of the united states. is backfiring, there, we saw that at the un general assembly where i think over 140 nations voted for a cease fire and only 10 or 12 voted against it, and even in the un security council the us watered down the resolution for ceasefire, but again it was clear that the only one standing with the united states would be the united kingdom, not surprising, so the break with us-agemany is underway, and and let me just add one other point here. "the us economy is collapsing, it's being portrayed as powerful engine of of the world, but if you look at the reality, people are extremely agitated, most of the governments in the west that are supporting the israelis are now