some gop house members are nominating former president trump for the position. the former president has endorsed jim jordan for the speaker but open to serving in the role for a short period of time if needed to provide unity in the party, joining me 2024 republican credits under presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. thank you very much for joining me this weekend. what did you mean about chaos and the race for the speaker. >> i like to find the silverlining opportunity and every juncture for this community. the fact of the matter is $33 trillion national debt and growing. a border crisis at historic proportion and growing dependence on our enemy communist china for the modern way of life and if that is the status quo i think a little bit of chaos could be an opportunity to get our eye back on the ball instead of short-term bickering. i think the republican party obsesses too much over the question of who, kevin mccarthy or somebody else, ronna mcdaniel or somebody else, donald trump or somebody else instead of focusing on what or why what do we stand for and

first the house gop needs to nominate someone that needs to get a majority of the house gop vote, andhen a vote in the full house next week, and that is going to be the real challenge. 218 votes, more than four republicans can scuttle a republican speaker candidate. as we saw with kevin mccarthy, the question now is will it happen again? >> yeah, we saw those 15 rourngsds right? with kevin mccarthy. as you say, lots of hurdles ahead. but right now we have reps steve scalise and jim jordan throwing their hats in the ring in the run for house speaker. thanks, manu. we'll be right back. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. >>> for the third straight day former president donald trump was in court, attending his civil fraud trial, and for the third straight day he ra

reasons, but that's part of it, and it's it's it's the politics of chaos. the effort to house the speaker was led by goptes, there is also a significant amount of distrust and anger from house democrats towards mccarthy over his actions as speaker and the house gop agenda. the rebellious lawers accused mccarthy of a flip flop saying he had promised an end to hastily prepared stop gap legislation hammered out with the support of the opposition and a return to budgeting through the committee process. some republican leaders condem mccarthy's removal with former vice president and current presidential candidate mike pence suggesting it would undermine the gop in the eyes of voters. there is no clear successor to oversee the house republican majority. congress has just over 40 days to agree a deal to avoid another potential government shout. down, but there is a certain nialistic quality to what they're doing, however there is also, genius and the madness, because the madness is about creating as much chaos as possible, and then um, you know, then the trump people will will will step in. the dramatic alter

mccarthy when he sought the gavel, mccarthy struck a deal with conservatives that allows any one gop house member to file a motion to vacate the chair gaetz has accused mccarthy of caving to democrats and wants a prompt vote to remove him. take a listen. >> at this point next week, one of two things will happen. kevin mccarthy won't be the speaker of the house, or he'll be the speaker of the house working at the pleasure of the democrats. >> so the stopgap deal with democrats only keeps the government funded until mid november and several key sticking points remain, including the funding for ukraine. mccarthy himself is striking a defiant tone. >> bring it on lets get over with it and start governing. if he's upset and i made sure government didn't shut down, let's have that fight. >> several democrats, including alexandria ocasio-cortez said they would vote to oust mccarthy in any vote -- th. >>> the trials of former president trump are under way. he watched as prosecutors argued that his empire was built on lies and deception this comes as a new saga of hunter biden is set to begin as he

a stunning rise for the trump ally and low-ranking member of the gop house leadership team, now secondline to the presidency. >> the challenge before us is great, but the time for action is now. >> reporter: johnson is a staunch conservative on issues like abortion and government spending. he also played a key role in efforts by then president trump to overturn joe biden's electoral victory in the 2020 election, history noted by democrats today. >> joe biden won the 2020 presidential election. no amount of election denialism will ever change that reality. >> are you worried that a speaker johnson would again attempt to overturn the election? >> no. >> reporter: johnson's election caps a turbulent month for the house beginning with the ouster of former speaker kevin mccarthy and the elevation and withdrawal of three other gop nominees before the party settled on the relatively unknown johnson late last night. >> if you don't think the movement from kevin mccarthy to maga mike johnson shows the ascendance of this movement and where the power in the republican party truly lies, then you'r

kevin mckarthyy has been ousted as speaker of the us house of representatives in a brutal historic rebellion by far right republicans, the rebellious gopth democrats have accused him of a string of broken promises. this is the first ouster of a speaker in the house's 234 year history. on this vote, the y's are 216, the nays are 2:10. the resolution is adopted. without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the office of speaker of the house of the united states house of representatives is: hereby declared vacant, i mean it's a sign, i think, if history is any guide at all to this, it's a sign of a party in disintegration, i mean that's what's happening, and it's melting down. and that's pretty clear, um, that's the older history, the more recent history, i think is that what we're seeing today is the latest installment and the you know ever ever continuing kudu deta by donald trump, i mean that's what we're seeing, the vote to aust maarthy marks a major escalation in tensions for a house gop conference that has been myed in infighting, and it comes just days after mckarthy successfully engineered a last minute bipart

one republican senator giving his gop house colleagues some advice. >> this ousting of speaker mccarthy and now we have a pro tem as speaker. >> i don't have a lot of advice for my house colleagues, other than this. follow your heart, but take your brain with you. i'd also advise all of my house colleagues to be sure and take their meds. >> take your meds. now, that's a republican senator giving that advice. kevin mccarthy now has two historic bookends to his speakership from 15 pathetic and desperate rounds of voting in january to his ignominious dismissal yesterday. mccarthy in his remarks last night blaming democrats for his fate, and then, in the same vein, acting speaker patrick mchenry lashing out almost breaking a gavel and kicking former speaker nancy pelosi and her top deputy, steny hoyer, out of their offices. but of course, no consequences for these eight republicans who drove mccarthy's ouster, who voted against him, and betrayed him, ultimately telling him, "you're fired." that's where we begin. joining me now is the reverend al sharpton, the host of "politics nation," and

gop house rules say members facing felony indictments cannot serve in republican leadership.s unclear if that applies to the speaker. congressman bob, good. one of the republicans who voted to oust mccarthy says republicans can unite and once we elect that person, we will all have a vested interest in his successor. but new york democrat dan goldman says he's wary of the price to get the far-right members of the party in line with the rest of the gop. what they are doing is cynical politics designed to actually sabotage our system and it's unclear exactly what they want. republicans are scheduled to vote for the next speaker on wednesday. >> in washington, alexandra limon. >> how mateo county is helping to lighten the load. diaper costs for families. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? it is with comcast business. powering all your devices with gig-speed wifi. and you get fast downloads and uploads. pick it up! pick it up! oh we got this! because it's powered by the next generation 10g network. more speed for your business? it's not just possib

matt: steve scalise wins the gop nomination for house speaker. this is a very big deal. we are seeing these headlines. there were times when we thought we wouldn't get a speaker for a while. now it seems like the first day of voting, we are getting one from the republicans in the house. hang on one second. i want to go down to washington, d.c.. kaylee, you heard applause now we have it confirmed that steve scalise will win the nomination for gop house speaker. >> he was cleared to do this, we don't of the breakdown of the vote but after a proposal to change the conference rules today it would have required that anyone to get the speakers nomination secure 200 17 votes from the republican conference. that did not pass so the threshold was much lower. 113 individuals voted for steve scalise. 99 for jim jordan. while he has gotten the nomination, it could still be very difficult for him to get the gavel if not enough republicans ultimately support him. willie see this go to the floor and we don't have news on when the floor vote might happen, it is not clear how money round

the majority of the 222 members of the house gop. at doesn't mean that that person will get to be elected speaker of the house. in order to be elected speaker, you need 217 votes of the full house. that meansperson can only lose four republican votes on the house floor. as jordan witnessed, that was not possible for him. as steve scalise was nominated, he's gone forward because h was losing support of a cup all dozen. can one of the two cams get 117. some are hooking for a way to move forward. can someone get to the position or will we endure more days of chaos in the house gop? that remains a question at the moment they don't have an answer to. >> all right, manu, thank you so much. >>> in trump's fraud civil trial in new york, the president has been fined $5,000 after the judge issued a gag order. the judge warned trump twice. he could face imprisonment if he does not comply. >> reporter: the judge fined trump $5,000 and issued a stern warning that the former president could face harsher penalties or jail time. make no mistakes, fut

maga extremism is a poison that the house gop has refused to confront for years. and until the mainstream house republicans deal with this issue, the chaos will continue. now, i hope it's obvious maga extremism is not good for the house republican leadership. it's not good for congress and it's disastrous for the country. so let me say this to the next speaker of the house, whomever that may be, think carefully about what happened to your predecessors before trying to coddle the hard right. each of your predecessors got burnt. each time i urge the next speaker not to make the same mistake, not just for their own future, but for the country's . whomever the house elects as speaker will not be able to ignore the realities of divided government no matter what the hard right demands and to his credit. i will say this speaker mccarthy both on shutting down the government and on default to the debt. at the end of the day, realized he had to work in a bipartisan way to do what's right for america. well, the need for bipartisanship will not change. we'll need bipartisanshi

while we can all breathe a sigh of relief that the house gop didn't shut the government down last week, we need quickly to restore the military and humanitarian assistance that the house stripped out of the 47-day stopgap funding bill. at a minimum, we need to provide the full amount of ukraine assistance qtd by the administration -- requested by ukraine. it is not just a moral obligation, is it -- it is a national security interest. i can't begin to understand the fighting within the republican majority in the house and why gop leaders would allow a smallo veto assistance to ukraine. i do know that ukraine is in a vital point in their fight against russia and they need our help. ukraine will go into another difficult winter and russia -- in a letter to congressional leaders last friday, the comptroller for the department of defense wrote that the department of defense has exhausted nearly all available security assistance funding for ukraine. under secretary -- under secretary mccord added, without additional funding now, we'll have to delay or curtail assistance to meet ukraine's urg

lawmakers hearing pitches tonight from trump-backed judiciary chair jim jordan, and current house gop number two steve scalise, who survived a politically- motivated shooting in 2017, about how they would unite their badly fractured party. now, without a speaker, the house can't pass anything, not even a bipartisan resolution supporting israel, something that has the backing of nearly 400 lawmakers republicans are hoping for a floor vote this week on the speaker, a timetable that seems very much in question right now. lester >> garrett haake, thank you. >>> up next, the new charges just announced against new york congressman george santos what he is now accused of having diabetes can raise a lot of questions. like my morning ride, will it help lower my glucose? with the freestyle libre 2 system, you can know where your glucose level is and where it's headed without fingersticks. know what activities work for you. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. ask your doctor about the freestyle libre 2 system. it's covered by medicare for those who qualify. visit freest

nevertheless, what is next for the house gop? that is unanswered at this moment as kevin mccarthy huddled with his top advisers, deciding what to do as this bitterly house gop conference meets in a matter of moments to pick up the pieces and try to put it back together somehow. >> manu, thank you very much. wolf, it is so incredible when you think about it. deeply divided indeed. yet eight against 210 for, right? it's a lopsided divided, right? it's almost all. and then these eight that continue to cause such chaos. >> it was enough to remove kevin mccarthy as speaker of the house of representatives. right now, reaction from a republican who voted against mccarthy's removal. representative kelly armstrong is joining us now. representative, thank you so much for joining us. you voted against removing mccarthy from the speakership. what's your reaction to his ouster? >> i've got to congratulate my eight republican colleagues. they gave chuck schumer and joe biden unified control of government in d.c., at least temporarily. i don't s

but we can all breathe a sigh of relief that the house gop didn't shut the government downhu last week we need to move quickly to restore the military and humanitarian assistance that the house stripped out of the 47 day stopgap funding bill. at a minimum we need to provide the full amount of ukraine assistance requested by the administration. it's not just that we have a moral obligation to assist ukraine it's in our national security interest also. i can't begin to understand the political infighting intrigue that is occurring with the republican majority in the house. i try to explain why gop leaders allow a small cadre of their focus to effectively give assistance to ukraine. i do know is the ukraine's are at a crucial point in their fight against russia. they need our help. ukraine will soon enter another difficult winter and we know russia without regard to innocent civilians. in a lettersi to congressional meetings last friday the comptroller for the department of defense wrote the department of defense has exhausted nearly all available security assistance planning for ukraine.

at this point it's clear there is a lot of folks in the gop, the house gop, that just are ungovernableeople also met a similar demise politically. >> alysia, this is something i don't think is sort of clear enough. i want the public to really, really understand this. look, i've never liked jim jordan's politics. i've never liked the sort of scandals he has from his time as a coach. i've never bought into his every man, phil collins, no jacket required schtick he pulls as if he's supposed to be a regular guy. but he's also a national security risk. this is someone who was knee-deep in the planning and the attempts and the philosophies and the strategies to overthrow this government. this is a man who was there, who had terrorists behind him. what is the danger of someone like that becoming speaker of the house, and essentially being next in line to the presidency if something were to happen? >> well, i mean, you make the case very well. the fact that he is normalizing this terrorism, he is normalizing this white supremacist violence, he is actually normalizing the weaponization of the g

look it, the gop house members have a terrific opportunity to shope the world that in fact they can governthey can keep it together. they will elect a new speaker from a crop of superbly qualified house leaders and the next speaker will insist on changing the rule to vacate. and then the gop will finish appropriations job, complete the regular budget order for the remaining eight funding bills. they have already covers 80% of the total spending package. then they will send these bills over to the senate and here's the rub, the chuck schumer senate has completed zero appropriations bill, zero. we'll ask senator rand paul about this later in the show but if there is another shutdown after november 17th, it women be the schumer-led democrat senators who are to blame. the next republican speaker should make this funding point absolutely clear. the republican house will do its job and so far the democratic senate is flunking the test and then, the gop should hang tough on measures such as their hr.2 bill to close the border. and also make it very clear that any additional ukraine funding must b

the house gop picking mike johnson as their latest speaker nomination. uisiana republican lexa numbers to get the gavel but anything is possible. the vote for johnson came on a day that saw the house gop elec tom emmer as speaker nominee only for him to drop out hours later admits resistance from th right flank of the conference and a major rebuke from former president donald trump. and washington tonight a real shock and george washington university where were according to an anti-semitism group someone on campus at george washington projected messages o support for hamas and told the two digressed from the site and as and proclaimed free palestin from the. university police have boucle with point young for young people and thus far they are resisting the idea of taking down that projection. no word yet from the university 's leadership about the incident. 40 to and counting is the numbe of states attorney generals who are suing meta platforms and it instagram unit because of the potentially jeopardizing the mental health of children and teenagers for pr

house gop members selected louisiana congressman mike johnson is a new speaker of the house followinghe removal of kevin mccarthy. c-span brought you every moment from capitol hill is a historic election unfolded. continue to stay with the c-span network as the house reconvenes it's back to legislative business you can also visit our video library at c-span.org hear more about career in congress. with more than turn 50 appearances since he was sworn in in 2000. c-span your unfiltered view of government. >> were going to pause here and talk to a reporter from the gazette and iowa use the dew point bureau chief erin murphy joins us welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> we are going we talk about what's going on with the presidential campaign and iowa. can you tell us a little bit about the latest polls of sue president trump former president trump is still way ahead of the rest of the pack. >> yes we just got a new poll yesterday one of the more reliable polls i will pull like you said it shows a president trump with a commanding lead but what struck me over these past hfew months we'

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article and i know you may not have written this, it reads "it's on, the bareknuckle battle for house gop leadership spot begins. anthony: it is shaping up chaotically. we do not have a good sense for how quickly this race is going to be settled. something i've heard from a lot of rank-and-file members i've spoken with today is that nobody has a clear path yet. that may change. obsolete the house is out right now. they're going to be signing each other out next tuesday with the idea of holding the election on wednesday. but i think even at this point with two candidates it is not clear whether or not there's a real clear path for somebody to get the support they need to be elected speaker. so a lot of fluid dynamics in this race, which is still unfolding. host: are we hearing where other candidates are jumping in for speaker? anthony: my colleague reported that kevin o'hearn is taking a close look at the race. there been other names bandied about as well, although we have not heard a ton of serious -- rumbling. one possibility is if neither steve scalise nor jim jordan is able to get thos

lawmakers hearing pitches tonight from trump-backed judiciary chair jim jordan, and current house gop number two steve scalise, who survived a politically- motivated shooting in 2017, about how they would unite their badly fractured party. now, without a speaker, the house can't pass anything, not even a bipartisan resolution supporting israel, something that has the backing of nearly 400 lawmakers republicans are hoping for a floor vote this week on the speaker, a timetable that seems very much in question right now. lester >> garrett haake, thank you. >>> up next, the new charges just announced against new york congressman george santos what he is now accused of >>> new fraud charges tonight against embattled congressman george santos. a new federal indictment accuses the new york republican of stealing the identities of campaign donors and using their credit cards to make contributions to his campaign worth tens of thousands of dollars, then transferring some of the money to his personal bank account. >>> coming up, the staggering number of lives lost, americans among them some of

it leaves the house in chaos and there is a lot of frustration tonight among my sources in the house goply the republican party inside of the house of representatives. but they are at such a standstill, it's almost like multiple political parties within one political party. and because they are at a standstill, they really don't know exactly what to do at this moment. there is talk of trying to go back to the former speaker, kevin mccarthy, and getting him to reconsider running for speaker, but there is also another question about whether mccarthy could get to that 217 number as well. they're at such a desperate moment politically that there's talk tonight about giving patrick mchenry, who i mentioned from north carolina, who is serving as the so—called speaker pro tempore, kind of the momentary speaker, without much power, there is talk about giving him more power so the house can at least reconvene and legislate some kind of support for israel and deal with other issues, but until this is addressed, until a speaker is running the house, you are looking at a dysfunctional legislative bo

what comes next for the house gop? eporter: simply chaotic moment for the house gop, which is in complete disarray. unable to get in order. three weeks to the day since the ouster of kevin mccarthy, tom emmer becoming the third republican nominee for speaker to see his candidacy collapse amid a revolt within the ranks. for emmer, it was members of the far right, upset with some of his votes on spending, to certify the 2020 elections, to codify same-sex marriage. all these issues came up behind closed doors. also the opposition of donald trump ultimately sunk his candidacy, ensuring he would not have a path to the nomination. right now, behind closed doors, republicans are still trying to pick up the pieces, trying to figure out yet again whether there's any other candidate who can get there. just moments ago, one candidate who had announced his intentions to run in this fourth leadership election, kevin hern of oklahoma, announced he would step aside. now there are five candidates vying for the republican nomination. th

lawmakers hearing pitches tonight from trump-backed judiciary chair jim jordan and current house gop number two steve scalise, who survived a politically motivated shooting in 2017 about how they would unite their badly fractured party. now, without a speaker of the house, they can't pass anything, not even a bipartisan resolution supporting israel, something that has the back of nearly 400 lawmakers. republicans are hoping for a floor vote this week on the speaker, a timetable that seems very much in question right now. lester? >> garrett haake, thank you. >>> up next, the new charges just announced against new york congressman george santos. what he is now accused of. (gasp) you need weathertech. [hot dog splat.] laser measured floorliners front and rear. [drink slurp and splat.] (scream) seat protector to save the seats. [honk!] they're all yours! we're here! hey, i knew you were comin'... so i weatherteched the car! can we get ice cream? we can now. kid proof your vehicle with american made products at weathertech.com. [ tense music ] one aleve works all day so i can keep working

and if you had to pick an income in the house gop or the house gop clown car, you couldn't do much better than matt gaetz. so that's going to make mccarthy get some help, maybe from some democrats voting present. it's also going to solidify his support in much of the republican ranks. so i think he'll be able to survive. gaetz has made some serious errors himself over the course of his career. i don't know that i would want to be in the position that he's put himself in. right now, my money would be on mccarthy to survive. though, obviously, he won't be as healthy in public image as he once was. >> and scott, you spent some time up on capitol hill, on the republican side of the aisle. i mean, to go from a near-government shutdown, which would have been blamed on house republicans, to a leadership crisis that is being instigated by matt gaetz, is this something that you would advise if you were still up there. >> well, no, i certainly wouldn't advise people to oust kevin mccarthy, because he's done a darned good job as speaker of the house under a really closely divided house. he's pulled

appeasing iran and new york times apologizes for falsely reporting hamas propaganda and nine gop house speaker contender and will make their case to the gop conference in about an hour hawaii are the sticking points and this, a new poll and voters say stop this now, fix america. an tim semitism in the universities and a new poll again former president trump is tied with president biden. usa today if you have folk bolls and "the evening edit" starts right now. joining us now is israeli special forces opportunistics veteran and former green beret and operation of operation pineapple express and rescuing them out of troops and afghanistan. scott man. thank you, gentlemen. first to you, aaron, what's your reaction to the biden white house advising israel to delay a ground invasion of gaza and a ceasefire and throwing cold water on ground invasion today? >> liz, i stay away from politics and doesn't really interest me but i will tell you this, israel taking its time is israel's decision and purely tactical. in my opinion, the reason why is because there's a 30 o mile complex bunker system u

the idea that he was going to travel to capitol hill to speak to republicans, which had a lot of gop housemakers, including some of his allies, a little bit concerned. they didn't think that was a good idea. he also did an interview in which he floated the idea that he would serve as interim speaker, not mentioning the fact that he would actually have to get the votes to do so. on that interview i'm told that some of his top advisers didn't know he was doing that. the same advisers that have been telling me and my colleagues all week that trump was never seriously considering these ideas of him serving as interim speaker. so late last night he did go on truth social, he posted about jim jordan . he wanted to get out there, no surprise trump endorsed jordan, jordan led investigations into joe biden, he has been a staunch ally of donald trump and unlike steve scalise he has endorsed him for president in 2024. >> let's find out what, if any, impact this is having up on capitol hill. let's go to lauren fox. lauren, there you go. lauren, tell us. >> reporter: to some extent, john, obviously tho

the gates we have reporting depending on the fightings of the ethics committee report there some house to gopel matt gaetz. do you think matt gaetz should be expelled? >> wont have to wait to see that investigation holds. i do think as matt gaetz works to get rid of the speaker those attempts are going to fail. if they do end up working out what will end up happening is multiasmultiple votes as we sawn january which will end up reelecting or reappointing kevin mccarthy to be the speaker of the house. it is telling the quote you used there from the president i think the reason he made that quote is because in this moment the continued resolution we are currently operating under kevin mccarthy had to put that on the floor and depend on democrats to pass that. almost 90 republicans voted against it. that tells you just how cantankerous in this moment the republican caucus actually is which is why the speakers under so much pressure. >> lee i've got 40 seconds with you. what has to change in 45 days to get to a long-term budget? when will kevin mccarthy still be the speaker by then? what has to c

. >>> and up next, my brand-new reporting from inside of the house gop chaos and jim jordan's ongoing battle for the speakership. >>> we're standing by for a press conference from secretary of state antoiny blinken. and we'll bring that to you live when it begins. >>> and after hamas attacks, president biden had a clear and unequivocal message for americans. israel and the world. >> this is an act of sheer evil. so in this moment, we must be crystal clear, we stand withi israel. we stand with israel. there is no justification for terrorism. there is no excuse. >> that pledge of support watched live by nearly half of israeli households and winning praise inside of israel including in tel aviv billboards with the message, thank you mr. president. in a phone call yesterday, their fifth since the conflict, netanyahu thanks biden for his deep and unconditional support for israel but with the outbreak of yet another global crisis putting foreign policy experience to the test, a new cnn poll out this morning finds americans as they are on most things split down the middle. with 47% saying th

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