but do they help help norm, enormously look again at reagan. gorbachev. look at reagan fetch, you look at things, relations all over the world that can improve or not. i mean with the chinese for example, there is great difficulty in getting over the barrier while with flooding or putting a job. i don't think it's very that's where they come out of best friends possible to appoint. but i think it will be much, much better than what has been settled now that on the side of your bite on, i mean, it's incredible. that was so bad. well, you can hear well joe biden, not to say just now. okay, good. i have met with him. he's bright. he's tough. and i have found that he is a, as they say, when used to play mall, a worthy adversary. worthy. not everybody has to get along know that has been relationships in history. if we look at kennedy and i know they apparently hated one another, john f kennedy was in berlin, giving his name berlin a speech him. and now i tried to avoid one another throughout the whole thing. there is possibilities. they don't have to like one a

i was here in 1985 with gorbachev and reagan, their first summit. it tells you how long we've had this difficult, complicated relationship with russia. but also how important personal relationships are between two leaders. it was the first for gorbachev and reagan. they ended up having a fine relationship. i know one of the things from people i talked to is that the russians go into the meeting believing americans don't like them. >> shaking hands with the swiss president. the questions there from what will you accomplish with putin to how are you feeling. the president not taking the bait on the questions. he's expected to go inside where he'll meet president putin behind closed doors. then all three are expected to come out for the very expected photo-op. martha, personal relationships here, president biden has famously said -- he wrote in his memoir he met with president putin. they have a history here. they met when he was vice president ten years ago. he said he looked into vladimir putin's eyes and he said to him i don't think you have a soul.

>> you know, we're here in geneva where ronald reagan met with mikhail gorbachev. reagan is on my mind because of that. he had a very clear strategy for dealing with the soviets that i think is appropriate today. engage when you can when it's in america's national interests to engage. and on arms control, controlling nuclear weapons in the world, i think that's in america's interest. and at the same time, contain the soviet union or contain today putin's belligerent behavior around the world and don't link those two things. a big mistake the presidents sometimes make is they want to cooperate on arms control so they're quiet about human rights. they're quiet about the list you just mentioned. i think that will be a big mistake for president biden. do both. engage and contain at the same time. but don't check your values at the door when you walk in to sit down with vladimir putin. >> step into the mind of vladimir putin for a moment if you will. we know he is a soviet. that's where he came. from he was a kgb operative. what is his world view? what is his larger strategy h

we were discussing with the gentleman who was actually the interpreter when gorbachev reagan met here in back in the eighty's. and i asked him, you give a very diplomatic answer about how much does it matter about the language used outside of the room when it gets to the inside of the room. when you've maybe said things about political opponents and campaigning mode. how does that affect when you have to sit down with them and work with them? i think the most important thing is that you could judge what the other ones reaction will be if you do one move, right? and as long as you can count on him in that sense, and that piece is safe in a certain way, it gets very dangerous. if you make moves. and the other one makes unpredictable. moves would actually to be the best that isn't a dictaphone stable relationships. what does the predictable and stable relationship look like though? yeah, in some of that, i've been in 1991 and i left the office in 2019. and i've been to moscow russia and between 2006 at 2018. i think united states, i know very well, i spend 12 years exchange student there

they cited the words of reagan and gorbachev. nald reagan, cold warrior if ever there was one, who in geneva 35 years ago agreed with gorbachev that a nuclear war cannot be won, and therefore should never be fought. biden, mission accomplished on that. thomas: just on that point, can we at the end of the summit talk about a winner or loser or is that too complicated? >> one of the russian journalists asked vladimir putin that question. he said what's the score? wh who won? putin was very clear that is not how you do diplomacy. and i think botbiden and putin have a sophistic understanding of this meeting which means they were not going to score points against one another. neither one would agree to the meeting if that was the expectation. the meeting was held because the relationship has become so dangerously unpredictable that we needed to restore some degree of predictability and stabili, but the onus shifts to what comes next which will be working level staff level dialogue about the nuclear issue, about cyber, about regional se

we got the press pack from that summit between reagan and gorbachev. it begins with a personal letter by ronald reagan to the press that was traveling with him to that summit and begins with the very telling sentence, which i think also applies for today. our trip to geneva is one of the most important of my presidency, he writes. this was brought to us by our senior producer, emily rust. her dad was part of the cnn team covering it back then. my dad was part of the ard german tv covering it back then. so a lot of history for all of us. of course a historic day today. and we're going to cover it from all angled. we have natasha bertrand, who's been covering all angles of what's been going on and especially joe biden's preparation for the summit. very, very important when you're dealing with vladimir putin. talking to natasha now. tell me some of the things that president biden has been doing to prepare for vladimir putin because he's known to try and derail meetings like this one and take the initiative. >> reporter: yeah, fred. so he's been preparing v

gorbachev and nancy reagan. you talk about that strange books of tells a story. >> one thing i think these two women might have had a few things in common. the soviet first ladies, were real lightning was. often the people in the country didn't know how many kids they had, sometimes they don't even know their first names. and mrs. gorbachev is a beautiful academic, her husband's closest adviser, outspoken in her own views. and she's also was criticized for being too interested in fashion, and she's sitting at the pierre card a fashion show, in paris. not the place you would want to you think you'd find a soviet but the two of them, her and nancy reagan just had the most delicious subplot of three summits between reagan and gorbachev, and for if you count reykjavik which was not supposed to be a summit. and these women sort of snuck it inciter back and forth. nancy gets tired of mrs. gorbachev's stories on leninism. and mrs. gorbachev says the house looks like a museum and i prefer a house that looks like a home.

the last one signed by gorbachev and reagan in 1987 with the intermediate missiles will expired because the united states and russia left it. generally we are back in the race which isn't coagulated. that means we are in other cuban missile crisis and not only with the soviet union but north korea, iran and many others that have become nuclear. >> more drivers than was the case. >> thank you for sharing this interesting book with us and i think all the authors of the cuban missile crisis can agree there are lessons to be learned from it so i urge people to go out and buy the book and read it and you will find many interesting parallels and lessons for the day. thank you very much. >> on our weekly author interview program "after words," democratic senator tammy duckworth of illinois discussed her new memoir, every day is a gift. >> after reading trevor noah's born a crime, his book was my inspiration because in reading it, i thought -- the title was amazing. very deeply personal about being born biracial in south africa and how even his birth was a crime. the fact that his parents, you

the cal gorbachev ronald reagan on the world stage the evil empire we talked about eventually the fall of the soviet union two players, just back from them are rice or gorbachev and nancy reagan. that relationship you talk about in your book. tell us that story. yeah for one thing you would think these two women might have had a few things in common. soviet first ladies before rays of gorbachev. we're real enigmas often the people in the country. didn't know how many kids they had. sometimes they didn't even know their first names. raisa is a brilliant academic her husband's closest advisor outspoken in her own views. she too is criticized for being sort of aloof and too interested in fashion. she's seen sitting. at the pierre cardin fashion show and in paris not a place where you would normally find them soviet you wouldn't have you wouldn't have found, you know, nina cruz jazz there. but the two of them her she and nancy reagan just that the most delicious subplot of the three summits between reagan and gorbachev 4 if you count reykjavik, which wasn't supposed to be a summit the most

manny: you go back to reagan and gorbachev. build-up to a long lead time to deliver rained success. i lean into powell. we look at the markets. let's have a look at could it bethat we have this year of nonexistent volatility on fomc. here we are. it would be possible that you see the balloons are tapering. rising up. bank of america, says we could be positions for permanent growth. transition inflation and a peatful fed taper. to the euro stoxx 50rks we just had a call. they are bullish for the first time in many years. brentz is on the board. there is a draw down in inventory. of course, calling $100 oil. dollar-ruble there for the summit angst ankst. let's talk about that. if biden and putin, they have the summit, the u.s. will respond to issues that conflict with the national interests when they meet face-to-face. it is in geneva. michael is on the ground flown in overnight to cover the summit. the latest. good day. >> so we're still waiting for the beginning of the deliberations. that is going to start later this morning. i

team in the city spoke to a journalist who worked at the 1985 geneva summit, that was between gorbachev and reagan and asked him how things are different, 3 and a half decades on it was the day off. my, i'm sorry, knowing july 29th, an event. sorry. so i remember where, you know, the expectations at the time was much bigger than nowadays because it was the 1st meeting in the mid eighty's between to the president of the to so pop our restore. why are we going to go back? and there was a lot of expectation, including the people with the population who participated to the summit, who was curious to know this is go much serve off. and how is mister, go by chance, because nobody knew about much about you. so, today was much lower expectations, but i think not the bad result. because this period of the meeting was as good as it was in a defined relation, a continuation of agreeing to speak further in the future. in my opinion, because there are a very good spirit between reagan and god by geoffrey. now it's historical fact. but as far we can see about the meeting today, there was also some good spirit.

russia and the united states, a lot of paddles are being drawn between the 985 meeting between gorbachev's and reagan. also here in geneva. accept and then sorta give you an idea of how far relations have fallen back. then reagan and gold, which were they were all smiled as difficult to imagine biting them to, to be ruled, smiled the sob around the differences between russia and the united states. now they are tremendous, the 2 leaders will discuss all all manner of subjects from the miss profit. they both have for each other to the global arms control to regional conflicts, financial and economic subjects, as well as sabra tax. the. com, a change the pandemic. what both countries can do to work together. there isn't much of an expectation for a breakthrough. during this meeting is a short, a very official summit. and these subjects had to be coordinated. they tend to be scripted both sides of already agreed. what they'll say at the end, they both even be a mutual press conference. joe biden has said that he's go to host his own relations off and then incredibly sorry, was that it'll be up to both th

basically the same summit by this time it was the geneva summit between gorbachev and reagan. explain the significance of that meeting and how things have perhaps changed. it was the day off my, i'm sorry, knowing and i 29th anniversary. so i remember right where, you know, the expectations at the time was much bigger than nowadays because it was the 1st meeting in the mid eighty's between to the president of the to so pop our was do like reagan and need to go back. and that was a lot of expectation, including the people with the population who, who participated to the summit was curious to know this is go my serve off. and how is mister, go by chance because nobody knew about much about you. so today was much lower expectations, but i think not too bad results because this period of the meeting was as good as it was in 85. in the migration, a continuation of agreeing to speak further in the future. in my opinion because there are a very good spirit between reagan and golf. jeffery, now it's historical fact. but as far we can feel about the meeting today, there was also some g

switzerland, talk to a journalist to back in 1900. 85 covered the janine summit between mikhail gorbachev unroll reagan. he explain the significance of the meeting and how things have changed. it was the day off my, i'm sorry, knowing and i 29th anniversary. so i remember where, you know, the expectations at the time was much bigger than nowadays because it was the 1st meeting in the need a div between to the president of the to so power was derived reagan and mr. go back. and that was a lot of expectation, including the people relation who, who participated to the summit was curious to know this is go much serve off and how we missed or go by chance because nobody knew about much about you. so today was much lower expectations, but i think not a bad result because this period of the meeting was as good as it was in a defined relation, a continuation of agreeing to speak further in the future. in my opinion, because a very good spirit between the reagan and global jeffrey now it's historical the fact. but as far we can see about the meeting today, there was also some good spirit present put in as also

but you know, so was ronald reagan when he met with mikhail gorbachev. ronald reagan also said they were the evil empire and one of the most evil places on the face of the earth, so you know what, ronald reagan and donald trump together addressed this issue. >> sean: then he walked away from reykjavik and gave us a line i use often to this day: trust but verify. dan hoffman, you're the great distinction of scaring the hell out of me, both in singapore and helsinki, mentioned this last night, telling me in singapore, the chinese were probably following my every move, 100% certain, and in helsinki you gave me the good news that the russians were following the end listening to every word i said. they didn't particularly like it, but i understand, i'm outsie of the great country i love, and i'm doing my job. my question to you, you know russian intelligence. you know the mind of kgb operatives. former kgb operatives like putin. what is he thinking tonight? >> i think what vladimir putin is thinking is he kind of got the reset he was looking for. he does not w

basically said to putin it reminded me a little bit of what we know that ronald reagan said in his first meeting with gorbacheveagan said to gorbachev, just so we understand each other, there is no way i would ever let the soviet union when the cold war, and you know that american power is -- i would guess that biden probably said some form of that to putin, and you look at putin at the news conference afterwards, no smirk. , no smi >> in fact, i was going to share with our audience what those of us who are faithful followers of you on social media saw. this is mr. bash loss tweet, meeting reporters in geneva. putin shows none of the smirk that was visible when he emerged with trump to face them in helsinki 2018. that news conference that later became something of a national embarrassment in this country. the soccer ball turned out to be the least of it. michael, let me put this next question in current terms, having to deal with our pandemic. i know a number of people who like myself after their first vaccine shot suspected high fever, and the doctors all assured us that means the vaccine is working with a ne

leaders that any use of nuclear weapons would have catastrophic humanitarian consequences. reagan and gorbachev when they met here in geneva and the eighty's had a similar agree commitment, then that a nuclear war cannot be fought and must never, never be fought. and i think that we can also see the kind of commitment to start working towards new productions. new start, for example, will expire. just expand that it will expire in 5 years. but you have these for years with this press it on to i think is committed to arms control where we can really see hopefully at the end of this meeting, them lying out the next steps. but they will meet again at a working level and start discussing nuclear reductions. all right. what about areas beyond their own capabilities thereon? for example, north korea. well, we've seen worrying trend the trends, of course, with china and the united kingdom, increasing the nuclear arsenals with 40 percent. so in order to get other nuclear states on board, i think russian united states, who still holds 90 percent of the world's nuke arsenals really have to come to the tab

it also fills me with sadness because it takes me back to the reagan/gorbachev meetings or bush/gorbachev meetings and the rise and hopes for russian democracy and understand the person biden is meeting with has hijacked the country. he's hijacked it for his own personal ends. of course, they're having a personal diplomatic exchange. sometimes you have to deal with somebody you don't like and biden knows the truth about putin. there's no equivalence between these two men. one of them is a democratic elected leader of the greatest country in the world, the other is a thug, a killer, a corrupt autocrat who's so worried about losing his position, he's jailed the leading opposition figure in russia. that's the reality. and you have to deal with it. but these superpower trappings can distort the truth. >> hang on. let's listen in. this is the beginning of the meeting. >> translator: i hope that our meeting will be productive. >> thank you. as i said outside, i think it's always -- [ indiscernible ] >> can you move? we can't get a shot of both of you. can you move? we can't get a shot. >> i can

of course, geneva was the site of a 1985 discussion between ronald reagan and mikhail gorbachev that ultimately led to the end of the cold war. president biden was already on the scene in the senate. he comes to this meeting with decades of experience. the question is will that matter at all? the white house is going into this meeting with a sense of allowing it to play out and talks. this is essentially going to play out as an act in two parts. the first, the meeting between president biden and vladimir putin and their top diplomats and later a meeting with advisers. we're told this meeting could breathe. it could last longer than five hours. as you know from being in helsinki with president putin and president biden, we'll watch the timing. will he make him wait for the meeting as putin did with president trump. for all the preparations that have gone into this moment, there's also an air of unpredictability and what both of them want to get out of today, wolf. >> what kind of mind games potentially they want to play with each other. thank you very much, jeff zeleny reporting. >>>

of course villa groans historically has hosted american and russian presidents before reagan and mikhail gorbachev. i think in 1985 like that translation, of course. now in russia and we will expect to have some english translation as well. and after that, there is a general welcome to both of these world leaders in the hope that the impasse is so they have actually experienced the accusations they've been hurling at each other across the atlantic might actually be resolved in some shape or form, not a resetting of relation sort of an introduction to each other to see how they work together. mister president of the russian federation with the president of the united states of america on behalf of the swiss government, i would like to welcome you to geneva. the city of it is an honor and a pleasure for switzerland to host you here for the summit. and in accordance with its tradition of good officers, promote dialogues and mutual understanding. i wish you both presidents, a fruitful dialogue interest of your 2 countries and the world's best wishes had goodbye the ball and the handshake to many aroun

it is really about a small step forward rather than any remake of the kind of grandeur of gorbachev and reaganr khrushchev and kennedy, but it does have those historical underpinnings. i can very much feel it on the ground here in geneva. lisa: we are expecting joe biden to arrive in just a few minutes. anything material that could potentially come from this? yousef: what you could get is a restoration of diplomatic ties. that is the kind of feedback that we have been getting from officials we have been speaking to. that means resumption of consumer services, so some visas could start working again. you might get something on cybersecurity, maybe something on climate change. but what i will say, and it has actually been quite stunning, is to understand there have been no plans for a dinner, breakfast, a lunch. they are not going to sit down together. and then the sheer heat of the day, to drive me to take off my tie before i go on air, that is also a factor. tom: it is a "surveillance" exclusive. romaine: at the end of the day, whether we have the pomp and circumstance of the meeting without n

leaders that any use of nuclear weapons would have catastrophic humanitarian consequences. reagan and gorbachev when they met here in geneva and the eighty's had a similar agree commission, then that a nuclear war cannot be fought and must never, never be fought. and i think that we can also see the kind of commitment to start working towards new reductions. new start, for example, will expire, just extend that it will expire in 5 years. but you have these for years with this precedent to i think is committed to arms control where we can really see hopefully at the end of this meeting, them lying out the next steps that they will meet again at a working level and start discussing nuclear reductions. the you will impose more sanctions on valerie, so for the forced land to give a passenger jet in may. the ryan f flight had landed mince caster, a fate bomb woman warning. an opposition journalist was taken off or played and arrested. the latest sanctions will impose travel bands and asset freezes are more than 70 people. the international criminal court in the hague has sworn in its new chief prose

. >> what you see is president reagan and mikhail gorbachev beaking off. >> reporter: against all oddsinued engagement helped bring down the berlin wall ultimately leading to the collapse of the soviet union. president clinton tried to get next to boris yeltsin, hoping to bring about reforms. as yeltsin has struggled to hold power in the kremlin, the russian message to the u.s. has been blunt. >> reporter: instead, the aging yeltsin was replaced by a youth soviet intelligence agent named vladimir putin. president bush believed they could find common ground. >> we had a very good dialogue. i was able to get a sense of his soul. >> reporter: but gained little traction. president barack obama attempted a russian reset, but his diplomatic wish list went largely unfulfilled. >> and putin loves it. he loves it when i'm brilliant. >> reporter: despite intelligence reports that russia tried to influence the presidential election on his behalf trump met with putin in it wasn't 18 and appeared to accept his denial. >> i have president putin he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't

president reagan and mikhail gorbachev also took place in geneva, seven miles from the place where bidenoday. the main issues were arms control and missile defense president reagan made sure and made clear to gorbachev there would be no other progress on other shalls unless there were tangible progress on human rights. within just over a year, all three regained their freedom. this is just to show how effective personal advocacy from an american president can be. and reagan followed in the footsteps of other presidents, from nixon, to ford, to carter, who managed to secure the release of political prisoners. we've heard this issue mentioned several times in the run-up before and after the meeting, waup of prisoner exchange. i hope if there's one practical deliverable after the biden/putin meeting today is that at least a handful of these nearly 400 political prisoners in putin's russia regain their freedom. secretary of state wrote to him after he managed to secure the freedom of a group of religious prisoners that it is a gift of wantonment to secure the release of a human being. it is

a lot of them were historic milestones along the lines of gorbachev and reagan. going into this, it's not that big of a set of expectations. both sides describe the relationship as the most tense it has been in years. from the russian side, there is an eagerness not to allow a further deterioration in relations. they see a need to have this conversation in person. on the u.s. side, the list is much more comprehensive. the ransomware attack's, you pay -- the ukraine joining nato, and alexei navalny. outcomes, well, there's not likely to be any strategic friendship here. there is unlikely to be any nuclear breakthroughs. let's face it, these things take years to put together. possibly a brief restoration of diplomatic ties that would allow it to become operational again which is very important for investors and for business. guys. mark: objects of this meeting are being handled very carefully. why is there going to be no joint press conference at the end? yousef: when i flew in a few hours ago, it was a fascinating site to see the russian planes stacked and the ame

you remember the reagan/gorbachev summit in reykjavik was declared a complete disaster. it ended up not being a disaster in the fullness of time. these are difficult meetings, high-stakes gambles. each size has potentially intractable objectives. on the other hand, there are areas where they have common interest, climate, humanitarian assistance in syria, whether it's some of the other things, who knows? maybe the iran nuclear deal where they could have a meeting of the minds on. everybody realized that this was a gamble by biden. but what's the objective or what's the alternative? do you not engage with one of the most important leaders, and one of the most important in this case adversaries, particularly at a time when nato in its most recent communique just this week declared russia the biggest threat. it's never done that before. it's never used that particular language. it's going to be so interesting to hear what they have to say from their separate perspectives in their press conferences. >> christiane, we're showing viewers live pictures coming anywhere president

if you go back to 985, this was the same location where you are the president ronald reagan hosting mikhail gorbachev. and well, the tone of that meeting was somewhat different. the to really had a strong chemistry. they also had a very having a little bit of difficulty over the sun behind me, but what we saw there, it was really a sort of a warm relationship that emerged from that summit. we're not expecting this same to occur this time. but what i can tell you is that what we will see is a real contrast between this summit. and the women took place between the u. s. president. previously, jo biden's predecessor donald trump. in fact, he went into that forecasting that there would be a long list of accomplishments that wasn't the case. in fact, he didn't even sort of confront the russian leader with respect to meddling in us elections instead, taking his word and contrast to us intelligence agencies that russia had had a hand in intervening in us democracy. so we expected it will be a very different tone this time. we also expect that there may not be any sort of grand thing that might come out of t

they were heavily criticized gorbachev and the meat for reagan was heavily criticized in the u. s. the meeting would go up. those meetings ultimately changed the way the world is today. so i don't want to overplay the importance i, but i also don't want to under stress the importance of the meeting between the 2 presidents. that may be absolutely nothing comes of it, but ultimately, if nothing comes of it, the big loser is, is every want. because if relationships between russia and the united states all are non existent as they are now, there aren't any when, as you see both sides, both president putin and bide and will be forcefully putting forward the, the way the vision that both russia and the united states have the cover that relationship in world stations, i think every day of the interest for all the world and the way in which the wild is going, i think in the numerous time fight and said, i consider russia to be a country and decline. i don't think it's, i think it's just a bit of a trouble maker now. it's economy's weak at this, not puting the fed. you need to recognize th

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there were not before back when soviet leaders -- before gorbachev was meeting with ronald reagan, and there's no reason to do what happened in helsinki, because he is a showman, and what joe biden said at the g7 to the press is i don't want to get into a competition about who can show off more, and i am paraphrasing, who can play more to the cameras. that's what not he needs to do, he needs to come out afterwards no matter how long it goes, and say what he wants to say to the american press and to the world about how it went, how he rebutted putin's assertions about january 6th and how he's not an autocrat and he's not responsible for what happens to navalny, and show america and the world exactly how you can stand up to vladimir putin. >> andrea mitchell, thanks for the great insights in your reporting. i understand you have to go to a briefing now. but i want to turn to you on the point that andrea raised on the issue of arms control. you wrote a piece not too long ago for politico, and you said as the lead negotiator of the treaty, i have advice for them, keep it simple. on that is

he was diplomatic, but so was ronald reagan when he met with mchale gorbachev, and he also said they were the evil empire and one of the most evil places on the face of the earth. ronald reagan and donald trump together address this issue. >> and he walked away and gave us a line, i use often to this day, trust but verify. dan hoffman you have the great distinction of scaring the hell out of me both in sing bother and helsinki, telling me in singapore the chinese were probably following my every move, you were a hundred percent certain, and in helsinki you gave me the good news that the russians were following me. i didn't particularly like it. i'm outside did great country i love doing my job. my question to you is, you know russian intelligence. you know the minds of former kgb operatives like putin, what is he thinking tonight? >> i think what vladimir putin is thinking is that he kind of got the reset that he was looking for. he doesn't want to have a price for having invaded ukraine and annexing crimea, using a banned chemical weapon against his own citizens including in the uk,

as long as four or five hours tomorrow, at a swiss village overlooking lake geneva, where reagan and gorbachevet in 1985. and we're expecting the president talking to russia and saying he does not seek conflict with them. but if president putin continues malign activity, the u.s. is prepared to respond in kind. we're going to see this happen over different kinds of working sessions. the first one will be smaller with secretary blinken there, in addition to minister lavrov and translation, of course. and then each will give their own solo press conference, a striking contrast to what we saw in helsinki with former president trump, appearing in more friendly terms with president putin. >> whether you take the long view or the short view, the president has been prepaing for this for some time. walk us through the short-term preparations president biden and his team have been undergoing to get ready. >> reporter: just before he left for europe in the last few weeks, we know president biden held a summit there in washington, inviting experts from outside of his administration to really consult him

i have no expectation that we're going to have like reagan and gorbachev meeting in 1985 where this new cosmic friendship gets developed. i think the most we can hope for is deescalation. things have gotten really rough between russia and the united states. president biden has to talk about russian human rights abuses to journalists and its citizens. he's going to have to talk about russian interference in american elections and russian, antarctic explorations that they're doing. it's going to be a very important summit between the two. >> we'll see if they have a joint news conference or a separate news conference next wednesday. guys, thank you very, very much. >>> the breaking news in "the situation room" continues with more on president biden's first overseas trip as his domestic agenda is now clearly stalling. we'll talk about that and more with his transportation secretary pete buttigieg. he's standing by live. he's here with me in "the situation room." we'll be right back. advisor, you'll make a plan that can adjust as your life changes, with access to tax-smart investing strateg