so if we had not had that bear cat that night, we would not have goten in that building when we did and i'm quite certain there would have been additional victims. financial readyness is also important. a lot of us took drastic cuts the last several years and having a tragedy like this shows why contingency funds, having them available are important. and finally i'm going to tell you one that you would never have thought of. to stablished the 501-c 3 annle an art program and a neighborhood program so we could receive funds through not for profit. and it turns out that the day after -- disney wanted to give us a $1 million check. we had somewhere where we could take that check and did not have to rely on an outside organization that may or may not have been the means or the type of means that we wanted to do. we have, by the way almost $10 million in that fund in however many days it is since we set that up in the community and the national response to that has just been incredible. and that's another area, new york, boston, we borrowed from you guys, we got the gentleman that did those

it does seem as if democrats, you kno republicans, when they have used terrorism they have goten legislationassed, using the fear of terrorism as a way to get some controversial legislaon passed and democrats decid for the first time to merge terrorism and guns together and run with it. and it did change the rhetoric of the repubcans. >> and thelgbt community which is now lokin at gun control. if this is going to happen, it's because the democrats are -- the nra still dominates the house, you saw the interview with paul ryan. the house is going to budges. i can't imagine legislation passing this year. if hillary clinton wins wh coat tails and brings in a clear mai te. >> you just brought up the gay community and guns, an interesting storybout the next movement amongay political activists may b guns. >> what i found fascinati is that there was anotherall in the "washington post" talking about the same thing, talking about one-third of americans talking about knowing someone who was a victim of gun violence. if there are more folks who know someone who has been a victim of this, suddenly is le

it was very clear i goten to the point where i was going to become a fatality up there if i didn't turnout. >> rose: if you didn't turn around you were going to die and you knew that. >> yes, i felt that very clearly. >> rose: did you worry that if you continued you might, in fact, impede his success? is. >> i would love to say that was front and center of my mind but that wasn't at the time. even though there is a reality to that decision, my turning around while i could still rescue under my own power, helped, you know, let cory go with a clear conscience to the top. but at the time, it was just black and white to me that if i continue, i will not come back off this mountain and i need to go down. >> rose: just tell us, when you reached the top. i'm avoiding asking the question what you do do you feel but what was the moment for snu. >> you know, it's an interesting-- getting to the top of these peaks, i think, people expect revelation, they expect some sorlt of relieve, some sort of a ha moment seeing god, and yeah, you see god in the landscape and but you don't-- at least i have never