chairman gowdy: yes. rep. gutierrez: thanks. >> could i ask unanimous consent to put in the record the declarations of the director? chairman gowdy: without objection. rep. gutierrez: thank you, mr. chairman. i think we should use this document, because it is written in 1999, signed by henry hyde and a series of other outstanding republican chairmen of this committee, in which they write to janet reno saying, you've got a problem with discretion here. you have not done it enough. you have the ability and the right in law to do exactly that and you haven't done it. i just want to state for the record that not our party but the majority party has stated and stipulated through this memorandum that they believe in discretion and the administration should use discretion. in the memorandum, it says, you have the discretion to alleviate hardship. as to why you have been willing to exercise such authority in some cases, we ask you to view the 1996 amendment -- chairman gowdy: would the gentleman yield? rep. gutierrez:

so i think it's very important that chairman gowdy proceeds with this. lou: and proceeding as he does with some of the people in the administration former officials as well. do you think that they will, for the most part be forthcoming or reticent? >> i think that everyone will want to tell their story as best they can. a chairman of an investigative committee, and i had the chance to be chair of investigative subcommittee does not take that responsibility lightly, and the people who are called are properly cautioned to tell the truth. they raise their right hand and take an oath. so it will be an opportunity for the american people to learn more about what actually happened. >> and you were working hard to figure out what was happening contemporaneously, and that was your effort to avoid a war. when you judged secretary clinton to be managing the information flow, the intelligence flow to the white house, as you look back on it do you believe that still was the case? >> well, here's a problem, i think that, look we're all fallible, we can all make mista

congressman gowdy is here to tell you next. real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. today, congressman trey gowdy warning the obama administration be careful what you do with the law. >> attempts to undermine the law, via executive fiat regardless of motivation are detrimental to the foundation of a democracy. >> as a good monarch would do the president spoke law into existence. you may like the policy, you may wish the policy were the law one person does not make law in a republic. >> clear violation of his constitutional responsibility to faithfully execute the law. >>s if you a enjoy a single person making law you should appreciate living investigate living another country. >> be careful what you do you with the law today.

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. >> joining us now, the chairman of the select committee on benghazi, congressman trey gowdy, who also serves on the judiciary committee, the oversight and government reform committee. mr. chairman, good to see you and if you will, characterize that answer from the state department, the assistant deputy secretary of state, on the witnesses. >> well, lou, thank you for having me on. that's just a boilerplate response you get sometimes from the administration that if you want to talk to a witness it's going to jeopardize their security or impact an ongoing prosecution, so the first thing you have to say is look, mr. state department official we have no interest in jeopardizing anyone's security, so we're not going to do that. you don't need to be concerned about security. secondarily, i know a little something about criminal prosecutions. the last thing we want to do is jeopardize our chances of getting a conviction but the department of justice has been much easier to work with on this issue than the state department. so those are just two kind of boilerplate, always in the letter respo

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and congressman trey gowdy joins us. good evening sir. and what in the world is going on with these inspectors general. they are demanding information so they can expect their agencies and what's going on? >> yes ma'am. i think it's important for your viewers to know these are are independent auditors. they are north partisan or political at all. >> they do not work for you? >> they work for your viewers. they work for the american taxpayer to identify waste, fraud and abuse. you remember the gsa drinking wine in the hot tub. >> he couldn't get matching glasses. >> the irs, the inspector general. they are independent auditors. but the statute says they are entitled to all documents, all material and doj and epa and the peace corps are not giving them all of their documents. >> what happened? so who is mad? >> well jason chaffetz uncharacteristic for him to get mad, this is the first hearing our new chairman has had. i think it's instructive that he picked to have this hearing on inspector generals and whether or not they are getting their

gowdy and the chairman we'll come back and have a full hearing about this, that -- >> i fully expect that, yeah. >> but i'm happy to answer more questions, that's fine. >> that's the way it works. we're allowed to ask questions, because the american people want to know why the internal revenue service didn't comply. that's awful big of you. >> i'm just stating that we're going to have another hearing on this. but i'm happy to answer the questions. >> we still haven't got the truth, as evidenced by the headline yesterday. the mainstream press can't even get the documents -- >> that's not documents they're requesting from us. >> but they derive from your unlawful activity. that's the point. that's something you've got to understand. the guy who heads the agency with as much power as you do to have that kind of attitude, that's what frustrates not just members of this committee, but all kinds of americans. mr. chairman, that is the problem. let's go back to this. i want to know something. this is what you told me when i asked you, when did you learn you could not get all of her e-mails?

i just want to -- >> it was noted -- agreed by congressman gowdy and the chairman i'll come back and we'll have a full hearing about this. >> i fully expect that. >> but aim happy to answer more questions. that's fine. >> that's the way it works. we call you here and we're allowed to ask question because the american people want to know why the internal revenue service violated their rights. we appreciate your willingness to answer the questions on behalf of the american people of. that's awful big of you. >> just noting we'll have another hearing on this and i've had five hearings already but i'm happy to answer the questions. >> but we have not gotten the truth, as evidenced by the headline yesterday, the mainstream press can't even get the documents. >> those aren't documents they're requesting from us. >> but they derive from your unlawful, un -- activity. that's the point. that's something you got to understand. the guy who heads heads the agency with as much power as you do to have that kind of attitude, that frustrates not just members of the committee but all kinds of america

watch as chuck gowdy of our chicago station wls demonstrates how a technology expert takes control of computer port. >> now the engine's shut off. >> you were able to do that with one mouse click. >> yes. >> reporter: the windshield wipers, the speedometer out of the driver's control. >> so can i start it? >> i don't know. can you? you can start it now. >> you did that? >> yea. >> reporter: experts say a hacker could even turn some cars into oncoming traffic, although it hasn't happened yet. the warning goes even further. a crook wouldn't even need to be in your car to gain control of it. the most vulnerable components, wireless technologies like the telematic systems like onstar and car-net. infotainment including bluetooth, hands-free and media players. even your wireless key fob. access to these and a hacker could shut down critical car functions. the alliance of automobile manufacturers, an industry trade group, says its members pledge to provide heightened protections and are making aggressive efforts to make sure we are advancing safety. experts say it's not a matter of if but w

. >> reporter: that prompted republican trey gowdy to remind democrats of their own partisanship problem we have a doj lawyer who contributed the maximum to the president, and that's who's supposed to be investigating. >> reporter: deputy ig also told the committee he believes some of these tapes were erased his implication was they were intentionally erased but he added further investigation is needed to confirm that suspicion. jenna? jenna: and so it continues doug. thank you very much. a few minutes from now, we're going to delve deeper with our political panel. one guest says this scandal could get even worse. gregg? gregg: well, the latest details now on the showdown up on capitol hill. we are hours away from a deadline to fund the department of homeland security, and now fox news is learning that house lawmakers are considering a stopgap funding measure that would prevent, in effect an imminent partial shutdown of the agency when the clock strikes midnight. but there is no indication that democrats would ever support another temporary solution. chief congressional correspondent mik

>> that's up to jeremy gowdy to make that decision. if he believes that's necessary to get to the truth, so be it. >> as lawmakers leave town on recess what will happen in the homeland security funding fight? our sunday group joins the conversation. plus, who do you think is to blame if dhs runs out of money? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday and use #fns. the future of the market is never clear. but at t. rowe price we can help guide your retirement savings. our experience is one reason 100% of our retirement funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so wherever your long-term goals take you we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. >>> let me make it clear, there will be no government shutdowns and default on the national debt. >> edge dangers the american people. republicans must stop holding our homeland security hostag

that's going to be a problem for her and even though the left goes when you mention things like ben gowdy i still think that is heartburn for hillary clinton. >> host: and what do you expect democrats to do with a war on women especially if hillary clinton is the nominee? how would you handle that inevitability from the last? >> guest: i hope that's the best weapon the left has because of it is we might as well go ahead and start measuring drapes and getting the inaugural ball planned. that has proven to fall so short. the colorado senate race is its great example of how this message ring so hollow. intelligent, thoughtful strong women know they are not helpless creatures of their gender. lord knows my wife knows that. my daughter knows that. my daughter in law knows that. all the women that i have surrounded myself with my chief of staff for 10 half years as a female and many of my cabinet officers would be livid if i said to them while we are going to give you these jobs. you are not really able to do them because you are woman and you are helpless to your gender and if you don't have s

gowdy, for his opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, the thread that holds the tapestry of our country together is respect for and adherence to the rule of law. the law is the greatest unifying and greatest equalizing force that we have in our culture. the law is what makes the richest person drive the precise same speed limit as the poorest person. the law is what makes the richest person in this country pay his or her taxes on precisely the same day as the poorest person in this contry. the law, mr. chairman, is symbolized by a blindfolded woman holding a set of scales and a sword. the law is both a shield and a sword, and it is the foundation upon which this republic stands. we think so highly of the law, mr. chairman, that in the oath of citizenship administered to those who pledge allegiance to this country, to their new country, it makes six different references to the law. so attempts to undermine the law via executive fiat, regardless of motivation, are detrimental to the foundation of a democracy. president obama afte

bill: trey gowdy says democrats will rue the day they allowed the white house to weaken the laws. >> he can weaken legislation for any reason, he has the the power of pardon, he has a lot of power be but he cannot make law by himself. ♪ grind virtually any kind of food waste into an unending source of electrical power for a city? when emerson takes up the challenge it's never been done before simply becomes consider it solved. emerson. martha: we are awaiting another verdict. this one is the sentencing trial of convicted murderer jodi arias. the jury is entering day two of their deliberation. they have to decide whether she should be sentenced to death or spend the rest of her life in prison. the last jury was deadlocked on all of this. if that happens again the death penalty will be taken off the table. the jury convicted her of murder in 2013 of the killing of her boyfriend. prosecutors say she attacked him in a jealous rage. areas claimsrage. she claims it was self defense. >> you may benefit from the president's failure to enforce the law today. but there will come a day where yo

it list all obama officials, trey gowdy looking to speak to people at the white house and pentagon alongvid patrius, the list is long and lengthy. what we don't know is when the hearings could begin. we are waiting on word from that. could be matter of weeks, could be a couple weeks but we will see. >>> bill, we know there is disturbing new intelligence information that isis is expanding beyond iraq and syria to at least three other countries and maybe more. kt mcfarland is here to talk about that with us. >>> and people out raged about brian williams and we talk to a pilot that did go under attack. >>> and can more be done to bring home their son? >> absence of any entity that hawse the objective of his soonest and safest return. can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. fiber one streusel. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for col

. >> time after time where congressman trey gowdy congressman jim gordon have said where are these tapes delaware roid. to have it found so close to washington, d.c. with such ease is very surprising. >> congress being lied to? >> it's right now the possibility of a criminal investigation, the first time we have ever heard that. when you hear those words it's really about what should have been told that hadn't been told told. so we're going to start to look at that. >> the irs at some level was trying to get everyone to believe that this was more about incompetence than it was conspiracy and that all of a sudden it just wasn't just people not really being dumb rather than being criminal. is it leaning now more towards criminal? >> i think the facts would suggest that it certainly wasn't too rogue agents in cincinnati. we found inn believable coincidences as they would put it, but today what we do know not only have we found more e-mails when they said there were none, we know there's the possibility of another set of e-mails coming up with over 400 other backup tapes we found. >> do you

gowdy, for his opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman the thread that holds the tapestry of our country together is respect for and adherence to the rule of law. the law is the greatest unifying and greatest equalizing force that we have in our culture. the law is what makes the richest person drive the precise same speed limit as the poorest person. the law is what makes the richest person in this country pay his or her taxes on precisely the same day as the poorest person in this country. the law, mr. chairman, is symbolized by a blindfolded woman holding a set of scales and a sword. the law is both a shield and a sword, and it is the foundation upon which this republic stands. we think so highly of the law, mr. chairman, that in the oath of citizenship administered to those who pledge allegiance to this country, to their new country, it makes six different references to the law. so attempts to undermine the law via executive fiat, regardless of motivation, are detrimental to the foundation of a democracy. president obama afte

gowdy, for five minutes. >> thank you. i want to thank you for your consistently hard work on this issue while you've been the chairman and even before that when you were on the committee. i will throw this question to any of the four panelists that can answer it. explain how working counterfeit currency cases prepares you for personal protection. >> when a new agent comes out of basic training, they're assigned to a field office for four to five years. during that assignment they have various investigative roles. they are also serving as manpower for protective stops. if the president, vice president, any of the protectees come into your region, you're assigned from your investigative role to be part of the manpower squad, which is how they start to become familiar with the protective operations. >> i get how practicing protection details help you with protection details. i'm trying to figure out how investigating someone using an ink jet printer to print counterfeit hundred dollar bills prepares you for that. i'm trying

joe, if i had my driters, druthers i would pass the gowdy bill to go to the court and let the courtspresident is not likely to want to sign something that lets us go to court. >> so darryl,ly have this question the last government shutdown obviously, hurt the republicans, if you look at the polls right after. i think it changed a lot of the primaries. you look at the poll numbers, republicans take the blake 221. even if you think it's the right thing to do is this the smart thing to do politically? >> back to '94, are you going to do the smart thing or the right thing? the fact is we like winston churchill have to do what we think is right. the consequences aren't always a positive election. to do the right thing for the american people as best you can is what we are sworn to do. not to do what is politically expeddient. i think we can get a deal. the president has been has to be willing to stay for a period of time. this initiative that he took on after the last election of his party during his presidency. he didn't take it on at any reasonable time. >> class of '94, i can tell you,

i understand what trey gowdy is saying. i agree with what they're saying.nate going in one direction, you've got a president that's never going to sign a bill that defunds this immigration initiative. so at some point you just have to fold. isn't it better to fold and fight it out in the courts at least pass something temporary for two or four weeks than to take it on the chin and lose in the end? >> so this is complicated. going back to john marshall justice marshall, the congressman is wrong about the congressional role in deciding what's constitutional. that is the supreme court role, which is where it's headed perhaps. secondly, i was dying to ask him as a former governor what would he do if the south carolina legislature passed him something like this and trying to make him sign something that he strongly didn't believe in. >> i can answer that for you. he would veto it. >> exactly. >> mark was hated by republicans in south carolina because he veto'd more big spending bills than any governor in the state -- >> yeah. >> veto it in a second. >> we can al

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