lindsay gramm. >> on one piece. lou: to pieces. >> maybe there's sothing wrong withhose they say without border security does not wk. intellectual isn't that inconsistent? maybe now with politics. >> there may be muiple answs. lou: we only have time for one. >> you will get a bill out of t senate and you will have the border security piece to be beefed up b the republican ctrolled house and the pple made calculations for what it would take to pass the bill out of t senate and send the bill to the house and deal with the issues of what we are talking about. >> i don't know why they want to make it complicated but we will figure that out later. lou: we will figure it out. [laughter] lindsay gramm says the g.o.p. is ia dea spiral if you don't buy into the gangf a deal but meanwhile that representatives in t house are pushing for for individual disk rebuilds the that makes sen so why in the wld is e republican party buying in to the proposition which is so light on security and by the way undefined in terms of itsreach

senator gramm says he sees trouble for the republican party and immigration legislation. maybe he should be thinking about the troubles for this country if it does and its current form. the national security implications and the obama administration's inability to catch at trader on the loose. ♪ lou: the obama administration today urged washington to beg spell edward snowden to return into this country to face the espionage charges. our next guest says the russian prime minister is in essentially thumbing his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox is national-security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations, fox news contributor. let me first are with you. he looks like he is having a lot of fun right now at president obama's expense. >> thumbing his nose. at the same time he is taking that old super bowl ring from the new england patriots. he is palming that. it is actually quite tragic. china and russia making fun of them today. thumbing their noses at him,3 tomorrow it is venezuela. the next day it is other countries. once this starts, it is

lou: we are listening to senator mccain, senator gramm and a handful of others, but certainly primarilyrom the republican party saying that we have got to get involved. there has to be a no-fly zone. we have to start arming these rebels. it is a peculiar cacophony that is erupting in washington in support for another conflict in the middle east. your thoughts? >> well, i don't think they know what they're talking about. they're talking about supporting the general, and he is the wrong one, not the second a member of the free syrian army that was just talked about. there are nine generals in the free syrian army. a former fox is military analyst hazmat on two occasions. they are secular. there the ones that we need to help, but we're talking about arming the wrong people. as far as the no-fly zone goes, the only no-fly zones are in the united states, over our air -ases where we grounded one-third of our tactical air. now they want to crank it up. we aren't even prepared to do this. could we? sure. but it would be a great cost to us. it is not going to happen with this administration beca

and now the senator from alaska who teamams up with jus about anything and gramm or mccain deal with. doesn't have enough to pass the harry reid says he will vote on the 1,000 page bill before the senate leaves for the july 4thecess apple tries to show it is stl ahead of the pack when it comes to technological innovati it announced a digital radio service to rival pandora and laptops with a better battery life and update to the operating system for the math and mobile devices and the announcement came at the annual conference for software devellpment in san francisco and capital executives also previewing thnext operating system that will be out in the fall when as part of a new california theme a mainly after naming it systems after big cats but pandora gained 2.5 on the ne. on wall street does stocks finished flat but the dow is down nine points the s&p down a fraction and the nasdaq gained five points with volume on the big board and trading under 3 billion shares but booz allen hamilton stock falling 2.5% after an employee when edward snowden admitted he leaked classified informa

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savings accounts and couldn't hustle derivatives based on your mortgage or republican senator phil gramm whose wife wendy was on the board of enron and ken lay and ron c.e.o. and graham's banks were buddies didn't like that at all enron wanted to bank and to gamble and to hustle everything from orders derivatives to energy derivatives so in the final year of the clinton administration phil gramm and his buddies in congress put it and the glass steagall act that have been protecting us ever since the great depression after all what could go wrong. it's time to put back into place the fire wall between commercial and investment banks and end banks that are too big to fail or too big to jail so they can't cause another american housing and financial disaster let's say goodbye to the out of control big banks and once again make banking a safe boring and useful business with local roots in our communities and that's the way it is that i tuesday june eleventh two thousand and thirteen and don't forget democracy begins the you get out there get back to your it. will. technology innovation all t

and set the stage for weakening bank regulations like we have today and of people like senator phil gramm following reagan's philosophy hadn't done away with regulation and oversight of america's big banks back in ninety nine and two thousand the financial scandals that have taken place over the last decade probably never would have happened. meanwhile as reagan was helping out corporate america he was waging an all out war on average working people in labor unions in the united states is a tax on organized labor in america and his attacks on the national labor relations board drove down employee wages is all out assault on labor and stop staunch opposition against the minimum wage help contribute to three sources three decades it's a flat wages while c.e.o. and executive pay went through the roof to in one thousand nine hundred three and one nine hundred eighty eight reagan's policies led to ten million americans losing their jobs through an epidemic of plant closings and layoffs under reagan the number of families living below the poverty line exploded by a third and these same families

that is gang of eight member center lindsay gramm urging support for the immigration legislation becauseccording to the senator it but dry as the border. despite theangf eight vy best efforts a drive througg the legislation not everyone is buyinn that. opponents said the bill is simply too long, that no one seemedo have read it, and it has been nngotiated behind cledoors and doesot come cle to doing what has been promised. here are just a few of the examples in contingence. one, border security itsel the amendment promises to add 20 dozen border paol agents. but the path to citizenship begins on the one. the agents cannot be hired. 20,000 extras that they cannot that -- starr hiring before 2017 which is quite a twist. meland security secretary janet napolitano has been given five years to raise the total number of tires to 20,000. experts say the hiring of some many agents could take up to 20 years. and there is the cost issue as always. according to the congressional budg offe the immigration bill would cut the defic by nearly 200 billion over the next decade. critics say that conclusion is bas

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ane thing, jn mccain and lindsay gramm and others have urged over and over again, establishi no-fly zonerea where a safe zone, where syrians and some of may be- whe they're save to shoot down in less serious planes. don'they have jet fights? why does this have tbe a u.s. initiative? what is our specific interest in syria? >> it's a huge intert. it may show up and pulls the ppople w don't wt to get involved in the civil war. is is not a civil war. the russians involved, hezbollah . lou: more excited by the minute. free to g io a conflict of russia. >> do we just sit by wle russia expense, since weaponsf all types assyrians says they're killing people, a threat to s thisneighbo? would be a tmendous setba the united states if ass stays in the tremendous victory for the iranian people. lou: and i eeed to a of that , let's say, hypothetically. thfact is that we ha been in afghantan since 2001. we have been in -- well, a decade. we are notoing very well there. when will there be a stray far discussion of the limitationsf massive power? en will there be a disssion abouthe appropriate attention?

south carolina republican center lindsay gramm once more for the meat industry.enator charles schumer pressed for special treatment for irish workers. such arubia looking for help from the cruise ship industry. does this suggest to you that these lawmakers may be more interested in keeping their jobs? >> well, i don't know. i bought your march were supposed to be banned, but maybe he's -- their special interest provisions for themselves, their states, very narrow provisions that clearly came out of this gang of eight, their individual states. so there is something going on. lori: so as you know, they fell short of 70 votes committing 68. what is going on? what is this whole debate, discussion, vote, legislation, what is it doing to the republican party? >> well, there is a big split. i was with the majority, but there was a clear split. i think the mistakes that some of my colleagues made, two things. a lot of them let politics dominate their thinking on the issue. we need to focus on the substance of the problem. it is a very real problem, and if we solve it the

another argument for immigrati reform legislation put forth by a gang of eight member lindsay gramm isit the republan party will lose hispanic support. well, heres something else to consider. there are 234 gop congressional districts represented by republicans. hispanics make up an avera of 11 percent of the ccnstituents in as districts. now, 201 congressional districts are represented by democrats. hispanics their make up more than twice as large a percentage of the constituents in a dirict. and finally. there is the argument that there is sweeping support across the country for giving illegal immigrants a path the citizenship. the use members are being somewhat reluctant, and they are convind that in some measure th may not berue. they have holes, by the way, to as -- polls, by the way, to assess all of this. the national journal finds nearly half of all republican journals, ha of them say they're less likely to support their lawmaker for reelection i he or she votes for legislation that gets a path to citizenship d add that to the fact that the house speaker will not bring rward a m

and republican senator lindsey graham of south carolina tweeted -- the language echoes with senator grammas set in the hunt for osama bin laden. rushkoffile, douglas wrote on cnn -- the editor of the american conservative wrote -- and pentagon papers whistleblower daniel ellsberg said -- for more we hosted debate on edward snowden -- is the hero or criminal? whistle-blower or traitor? here in new york we're joined by chris hedges, senior fellow at the nation institute. he was part of a team of reporters that was awarded a pulitzer prize in 2002 for the paper's coverage of global terrorism. his author along with the cartoonist joe sacco the new york times best-seller "days of destruction, days of revolt." in chicago, illinois, we're joined by geoffrey stone, a professor at the university chicago law school. his recent piece for the huffington post is called, "edward snowden: hero or traitor?" he served as an informal adviser to president obama in 2008. in 1992, 20 years ago, prof. stone hired obama to teach constitutional law at the university of chicago. he is also author of many books in

mean you've got this is and those you collapse when the government got out of the way because of phil gramm you have is picking winners and losers why do airlines go to bankruptcy and why do car companies get bailed out because of the way car companies look right now because the u.a.w. got bailed out not the car companies cover that we've heard about a billion dollar you didn't have any problem government will bail out b.m.w. they didn't go bail out in support of tennessee they didn't go what toyota they wouldn't build the u.a.w. out why did the airlines going to because they're not cleared by the isn't talking that's why it went up so we didn't bail out a german corporation that otherwise was doing fine we didn't bail out of but the reach of the we pick the winners and losers there's also a lot of union people were those airlines but the u.a.w. the teacher we need is knowledge and we need intelligent is that we never should. down there to your country no i mean all right my pay several billion people in their jobs no you're not going to bankruptcy reorganize it's not screwing there wasn't

gramm was concerned about this. grant had sherman take 40 percent of his army and turn him. go back up to the big river and keep an eye out because johnson could show up and we might have a problem if we're not ready for that. grant is fully prepared for that and it never happens. and, you know, johnson, after the war, the recriminations flying. johnson writes in his memoir, you know, all of this negative stuff about how pemberton was response of the loss. that is totally accurate, but pemberton rights back that is johnston who was responsible. horrible kind of thing that nobody wants to read about. this kind of a feud, but that is the way it is in sub. what is the answer? ami, historians debated today. i cannot get into that. as the story. and what joe johnston does or what he does not do possibly change the history of this whole part of the country. anyone else ever question? yes, and the back. [inaudible question] >> my father, you know -- the question is my father wrote other bugs after the killer angel. he did write other books but none of them are historical. the kille

sexual assault cases is now made by convening authority like a captain in the rare event as senator gramm said if they recommend it to be prosecuted and the commander says noah our proposal requires the independent review be conducted by the service secretary. second our amendment addresses retaliation ostracism and peer pressure against those who report sexual assault by directing the secretary of defense to prohibit retaliation against the victim for reporting sexual assaults and for the first time to make such retaliation a criminal offense punishable under section 92 of the uniform code of military justice. we express this in congress the commanding officers are responsible for establishing a command climate in which a victim can report criminal activity including sexual assault without fear of retaliation and should be relieved of command if they fail to do so. this is not an issue of a division between those who advocate strong action to address sexual assault in the military and those who don't. no member of this committee accepts the status quo of thousands of sexual assaults in t

7th you testified before the senate armed services committee and were asked a question by senator gramm he asked you whether the general ham had issued a stand down order to the military personnel in tripoli or elsewhere who were preparing to go to assist those in benghazi. then we heard before the house oversight committee that mr. hicks who was the former deputy chief of mission said colonel gibson, who was on the ground in tripoli, did receive a stand down order. and so, general dempsey, i've not had an opportunity to follow-up with you based on the february 7th testimony. mr. hakes testified that he believed the stand down order came from africom or special operations command in africa. general dempsey, can you help me understand who issued the stand down quarter and what happened and why the special forces that want to go as i understand under colonel gadson interpol we were told not to go and who gave them that order? from there they wanted to go and held in benghazi on the night? >> yes, thanks senator. based on that testimony, i went back and -- >> i have a feeling that you woul

gramm. they set up fake wi-fi hot spots and legitimate sponsors and a package your signal. and they send him out where that impersonates law enforcement, demanding payment to settle for investigation. several security firm trend micro tracks the growth of high risk applications showing 350,000 of them for android alone. >> the law again. there's a password. it's all of your e-mail, all of your personal contact and permiision to read all of your -- your calendar. where you are. all of this is of interest to somebody. we will see different kinds of alloys for different kinds of threats. >> what can you do to protect yourself and your mobile device? well, start by backing up your smart phone data on a regular basis. 69 percent of users do not do this according to consumer reports. also, use screen lot scoot -- screen lots with passwords. 64 percent of users don't do this. you can download anti virus that, applications were devised look -- locator. if it does, there are applications that will wipe the contents of your device totally out from your home computer. back to you. mel

host: here is a bit of lindsey gramm on "meet the press," yesterday -- [video clip] >> it positive note, a political breakthrough passing reform with enough votes. i have never been more optimistic about it. host: we are doing our reporter roundtable this morning. alliance are open if you want to talk about immigration or any of the other issues we are talking about today. for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. before we leave the issue on immigration, talk a little bit about lindsay grams relationship with the white house on this immigration issue? guest: you have seen the white house really take the lead on this, one of the reasons for that is of course a lot of democrats saying -- look, if immigration, talk a little bit the president is out in front it can only stall the issue. one of the interesting things that is a political calculation is the effect in 2014, where the elections are likely to look very different. upcoming elections are looking to look more conservative, traditional, more white. it may not show the same affect bei

host: here is a bit of lindsey gramm on "meet the press," yesterday -- [video clip] >> it positive notepolitical breakthrough passing reform with enough votes. i have never been more optimistic about it. host: we are doing our reporter roundtable this morning. alliance are open if you want to talk about immigration or any of the other issues we are talking about today. for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. before we leave the issue on immigration, talk a little bit about lindsay grams relationship with the white house on this immigration issue? guest: you have seen the white house really take the lead on this, one of the reasons for that is of course a lot of democrats saying -- look, if the president is out in front it can only stall the issue. one of the interesting things that is a political calculation where theect in 2014, elections are likely to look very different. upcoming elections are looking to look more conservative, traditional, more white. it may not show the same affect being predicted. the question is -- how much of a

we heard from republican senator lindsay gramm of south carolina speak up on the -- lindsay carolina south speak up. [video clip] >> i hope we will change some of -- we will chasten to the ends of the earth. >> i was going asked about that, it was a key decision over the next 24 hours, should we put pressure on them right now? hold him in moscow? >> absolutely. they want to be part of the world community, they want a good relationship with united states. they should hold this felon and send him back home for justice. host: let us hear from robert from stockton, california. a republican caller. caller: thank you. you do a really good job hosting your show. we appreciate that. host: what are your thoughts? caller: my thoughts are if our fourth amendment rights were not taken away in this incident this man would not have anything to run around the world with. somebody give him the tools and somebody gave him the opportunity to do what he was doing. i think the guy is a hero. he is exposing -- they want to put drones over america? the enemy should not be here. the enemy is there in afgha

host: comments by senator lindsay gramm. -- it gives a separate counter this graphic of who is on theote. he is senator john mccain had 61 appearances. it goes from there. been a list of senators who have not been on sunday talk shows in the last couple of years. the peace talks about why they choose to call on -- choose to go on, with the appeal to. it says -- one of the people we will see this weekend is the senator from colorado. we will hear from the c-span radio crew about who will be on all of the sunday talk shows today. let us take a look at what the senator had to say about this very issue we are talking about today. he said -- looking at some other stores in the news the sunday -- it goes on to say -- also coming from that meeting, the united states and china have agreed on a greenhouse gas cut. they agree to one of the production and consumption of the class of chemicals commonly used in refrigerators, a key ofp toward eliminating some the most potent greenhouse gases. looking at other stores in the news, immigration debate is intensifying as both sides push immigration ame

. >> i think senator gramm said we could modify it later on a voice vote card that does not mean my ranking member would read can we have a voice vote on it and work on a later? >> yes, and it can be addressed. >> all those in favor say aye. the aye's have it. abouts is amendment 19 the victim interviewed which requires the defense counsel give notice to the -- it does not limit access to the victim in any way. the victim can still be accessed by the defense council, but it requires defense counsel give notice to the prosecutor before they interview a victim, which will give the prosecutor and adequate opportunity and desire to give support to the victim during that interview. it also requires upon request the victim have counsel present for those interviews, reaffirming this right under this law. there further debate? >> could you say it again? >> it requires defense counsel give notice to the prosecutor before tried to interview the victim, it does not limit how often they can interview the dictum, the have to give notice. secondly, if the victim requests that they are entitled to have co

i frankly think that folks like senator john mccain and senator lynsey gramm our way to trigger happy in getting involved in every conflict in the region when these questions are unanswered. humanitarianrd to concerns in particular, joe writes in about national security interests and humanitarian suit -- concerns. aboutother that talks syria and civil war and that we cannot help them. can't we just help with humanitarian aid? guest: that is pretty much with the u.s. has been doing, providing humanitarian aid, and that is what president obama has been criticized for, that he has not been arming the rebels and helping them to rebuff the assad been on theich has rebel lately because it has been resupplied by russia and been reinvigorated by hezbollah fighters coming from southern lebanon. dot should the united states by way of response? that has put a lot of pressure on the administration, that combined with the fact that the administration has found that the assad regime has crossed its red line with the use of chemical weapons in the country. that has put a lot more pressure on the pre

across-the-board cuts if congress didn't do its work to get i was in the first meeting with the gramm and rudman and others and how this thing was devised pick in the house i was a member of the super committee -- term at off i don't know where it is what i can hear it all the way over here. [laughter] i know it's not my life because i've already turned mine off. i was on the super committee. and it broke my heart that we didn't get it done. it really did. we had a group of 12 people you might remember divided between. we have an equal number versus a majority that really wanted to come out with a solution. some democrats, some republicans on both and they said we will do the sequestration and that will force the congress to actually come up with something to get it done. and at the end of the day it didn't work. in the house last year we passed two different bills. with real offsets to the sequester. we didn't get anything out of the senate. we passed in may of last year and then again want to say it was in september or october i remember sitting with leon panetta. as the committee c

i understand why the pre-disaster mitigation gramm program was discontinued and i am not saying that we knew that the something like that that allows us to prepare in advance. there has been a lot of talk of shelters being mandatory. i believe that the states such as alabama and a set of a good example that storm shelters for schools should be made mandatory by states that have a serious problem with new buildings and much can be done to improve existing buildings in that regard. and i believe mandatory law or a shelter should be a multifamily residential units of a vulnerable population such as a day care center or retirement villages and so forth. nursing homes, mobile home parks and apartments. i think it should not be mandatory for privately owned single-family arm of the family residence although incentives of some type would be appropriate. my recommended action would simply be you have identified the agency's nsf nsf, noaa, fema, to it minister long -- large-scale programs and we have got to have adequate funding to do so and i think if you look particularly for the programs w