so this is a discussion and action item. >> commissioner gravanis. >> thanks to quickly put this go would p into the inspection that is one the things we do everyday we heard a wonderful point as the policy committee a debate whether she should come and give the report again but that's not the reason for committees to humanitarian them out and make a recommendation so in short we had a great discussion and voted to recommend we adapt the envelope bio green list that you all have in our packets so ms. raphael and i can try to answer questions but it's straightforward in a lot of ways and illustrates there's a lot of work to do why does it say 2012 it's hard to get the data in time to be acting on it and in current time. there were a number of questions about compliance why are some of the departments buying bottled water and it's a long slow process but what's working is the only time that our department is giving to other city departments when they do the right thing a positive approach is effective so i'm glad for that >> thank you. colleagues thoughts commissioner king >> great st

commissioner gravanis sorry i see you on the machine >> just a quick comment we talked about this on the policy commission had a discussion we're grateful to you and the interims for all the work because it's very complicated and there are a number of people that want to make sure we are not requiring one hundred percent of roof panels people really want to have living roofs for habitat and water managed and people that point roof-decks to be up high and see the view i know it's complicated but i hope we work out the outdoors so they can took place i totally support in resolution we're studying it and doing things as appropriate but boy is it complicated and any rough timeline on the approval process. >> i'm hoping to have a final draft by late fall. but that's really a guess in the dark. there are so many unknowns and barriers because it's the first time through. we're very cognizant of all the other uses and add into our awareness and concern title 24 requires that a certain percentage of commercial and residential roofs are solar ready so this will be one piece we'll address and m

did commissioner gravanis is there a letter you want us to send out maybe a letter to the subsequent xhepd the sustainability >> we didn't ask anyone to draft a letter but we thought it would be a good idea for the support. >> either from the policy or the commission we did that on the puc to highlight the h renewable energy it's a climate proposal we're talking about a letter for the post office we've done a letter thanking the mayor and the puc ann kelly for restoring the sf energy and perhaps do another one president chiu called the energy to get the money back. there may be might be some kind of fund to get that process going off like a routine to get the communications to move the agenda you know the policy agenda. any public comment on that item? seeing none, public comment is closed any other comments thank you a very thorough report commissioner gravanis. monica call the next item >> the information and discussion. colleagues announcements? announcements. announcements? any other announcements from our director? okay. okay we've got good okay public comment seeing none >> wan

commissioner gravanis >> well, he was quiet at the full board meetings but i have an opportunity to have lunch and find out all the incredible outreach efforts he was making through media and different because of approaching the community and instrumental in getting information out to the community i don't think we would have been able to reach like chinatown and his appreciation of the needs to passage our messages in ways to reach people we hadn't reached before i'm sorry he's not here to give our xhooktsz to him in person. >> that's one of the themes we want to honor it talks about specifically commissioner mocks inside assistance in the outreach efforts in the community. i know he couldn't be here tonight but with us in spirit as we commend him with the resolution and take the comments from the public. yes mr. backroom head >> yes. i wanted to add that allen commissioner mock was responsible for a success of a event we did an incongruous dent hour lamps he got our message out i believe on chinese radio and television two nights before we had 15 hundred people to get in front ones in