. >> host: gray van. bald, beard. >> candy. >> puppy would have been too far. >> host: what is laura bush's demeanor. >> my mom is unbelievably calm. she can sit us down with one look. never even needs to raise her voice.ra she is so calm and she was not happy, to be honest. i can't help but think found it sort of hilarious. maybe not. after you had to tell the secret serviceman you had not been kidnapped. >> i faked my own kidnapping. >> host: you say the store heries are inaccurate but there was a long term story about you, toll booth, yale, cars. yale, >> that did in fact happened but unintentional. >> you didn't write about that. >> that is not that good of a story. >> by the way, this is how, how the world was back then. i don't even know this story. >> i was with friends from yale. oddly enough we were boeing to a pro-wrestling federation event in new york. >> what?t? >> i don't know.w. >> we'll be with chris jericho by the way. >> chris jericho is here. we can relive the story. i driving with frien

you look at the story of someone like freddie gray who was arrested, thrown in the back of a van, hissnapped and he died. i mean, there are families that are still grieving because of incidents like this and it really is disgraceful to see the president of the united states using his platform and also just really not having any understanding of -- or regard for these incidences and the tragedies and the loss for families that have experienced this violence. >> do you think there's a sense that this administration has felt it was unsupported and so by doing this they were sort of building a bridge further to law enforcement? >> but donald trump had law enforcement support during the campaign. they endorsed him and here he is now going and speaking to law enforcement. ian p think, look, law enforcement do very difficult, important jobs for all of us and they keep all of our communities safe but the statements that he's making, they actually undermine those very jobs and in some way it's not surprising because when you look at his justice department. his justice department has already al

gray. he was thrown roughly into a police van. his neck was so fractured that he died. of the president of the united states using that particular imagery with police standing all around him? >> a couple things occurred me. i'm faculty at morgan state. i texted my students, did you see this? they were disturbed that you would have the president of the united states basically encouraging a rough ride, but this is what we see from this president. this is how he surrounds himself with. this is his general disrespect for the law and people of color. i hope we screen shot every single cop that cheered. them cheering for someone advocating for breaking the law -- >> police do not encourage, and publicly say rough people up. in the chicago department side he made up a story. rob emmanuel said, nope, never heard of this person. this person doesn't exist. >> it's like his friend jim, of course. he consults on all things. >> and john barren. >> yes. the thing is trump is the same person who put out an ad in the new york daily news in may of 1989 calling for the death penalty for

throwing suspects into the back of the van, all i could think of is freddie dra and i don't know if they have that video, but this is exactly what we've done into freddie gray. he was thrown roughel into the back of the police van. he died. what did you make of the president of the united states using that particular imagery with police standing all around him? >> on faculty at morgan state i'm in baltimore did you guys see this and they were disturbed and horrified that you would have the president of the united states basically encouraging a rough ride. but this is what we see from this president. this is how we surround himself with -- this is his general disrupt for the law and people of color. and i'll be honest with you, i hope we screenshot every single cop who cheered because if any of them ever ever have a complaint against him them cheering should be one of the first things -- >> you also have him making up things. >> right. >> you have donald trump not only encouraging police tolk their worst selves something police departments do not encourage. they don't publicly say rough people up, but then on the chicago police department side he made up a s

that not freddy gray, somebody who killed in a van or do is as a result of a taser. these are gunshots. i say that say, it's not as i the factors have the have mobilized people previously no longer pi. what -- no long e exist. what happened, people call me and ask what's going on? they talk about a movement that that stretched two years and further back. some young activists were mobilized after the death of trayvon martin and jordan davis in 2012, and 2013, george ceremonyman is jacker -- george zimmerman is acquitted and then the death of eric guardianer and john crawford and michael braun and tameer rise. and this is all we could focus on. the first thing is there is still activism going on. in fact before those moments. there were people in communities, activists and organizations who have for decade, generations, been working on these issues and we health paid enough attention -- haven't paid enough attention to the work they were doing. it's clear the attention we were all collectively paying dissipated and started to do that prior to the election. last year in

gray's death a year earlier. the 25-year-old died days after being arrested and transported in a police van. today the police commissioner facing new questions about trust. >> perception is reality. so if our community thinks that there are police officers who are planting evidence in the course of their duty, that's certainly something that will keep me up at night. >> reporter: the same cameras that are supposed to improve confidence tonight appear to be shaking it. stephanie gosk, nbc news. >>> tonight anticipation is mounting in nevada ahead of what could be one of the most watched parole hearings ever. o.j. simpson behind bars for nearly a decade. tomorrow he'll learn if he'll finally be set free. nbc's joe fryer is there. >> reporter: the spotlights are now firmly fixed on a prison in rural windswept nevada and a nondescript parole board office 130 miles away. two places that tomorrow will be linked by video conference for what some are calling the parole hearing of the century. the prison, lovelock correctional center, is where o.j. simpson has been locked up for nine years, mopping g

gray is, right? >> sure. >> okay. his spine was snapped in the back of a police van, possibly because he was treated roughly. you can understand how if, say, his family members were to see this speech, the president of the united states,ic maing jokes about treating prisoners roughly and seeing police officers applaud, you can understand how that would really be hurtful to those people, right? >> sure. i would also say that there are a whole lot of people who watch this speech who live in my area who are very pleased that the president is taking the aggressive approach that he is on combatting ms-13 because they lost their son as a result of an attack with a machete. >> the question is there -- >> everyone can -- >> the key point is there is a question between one and the other, right? i think what seems important as someone who is a lawmaker or someone who is a president and enforcing the law, is understanding that engaging in protecting people from ms-13 and prosecuting crimes, right, does not necessitate the police engaging in extra judicial violence. that seems like an important line to establish, and th

gray is, right? >> sure. >> his spine was snapped and he died in the back of a police van. possibly because he was treated roughly. and you can see how if his family saw the president of the united states made a joke about prisoners being treated roughly and seeing police officers applaud, you can understand how that would be hurtful, right? >> sure. there are a lot of people who watched this speech who live in my area who are very pleased that the president is taking the aggressive approach that he is on combatting ms-13. they lost their son as a result of an attack with a machete. so -- >> the key point is there is a difference between one and the other. what seems important is someone who is a lawmaker, someone who is a president and enforcing the law, is to understand that the engaging in protecting people from ms-13, and prosecuting crimes, does not necessitate the police engaging in extra judicial violence. that seems like an important line to establish. one doesn't have anything to do with the other because we're a nation of laws. >> i mean, it is one of those partic

gray is, right? >> sure. >> his spine was snapped and he died in the back of a police van, possibly because he was treated roughlyyou can see how if his family saw the president of the united states made a joke about prisoners being treated roughly and seeing police officers applaud, you can understand how that would really be hurtful, to those people, right? >> sure. there are a lot of people who watched this speech who live in my area who are very pleased that the president is taking the aggressive approach that he is on combatting ms-13. because they lost their son as a result off an attack with a machete. >> the key point is there is a difference between one and the other. what seems important is someone who is a lawmaker, someone who is a president and enforcing the law, is to understand that the engaging in protecting people from ms-13, and prosecuting crimes, does not necessitate the police engaging in extra judicial violence. that seems like an important line to establish. one doesn't have anything to do with the other because we're a nation of laws. and we pursue people like ms-13 lawfully. >> i mean, it

we're not for roughing people up and throwing them into the back of a van, which for a lot of usury called what happened to freddie grayolutely. >> how shocked were you? >> i am shocked. it is totally irresponsible for the president of the united states to encourage violence by the people who are hired to protect and serve us. they didn't really like that. it's very uncomfortable for these groups, including the boy scouts and others, to have him say things they think they're supposed to respond to, but they did correct that image, that went out. here we are, experienced police violence, had unarmed young men, black men for the most part killed and shot by the police. i know many of the police jurisdictions are trying to overcome that image, but some of them are bad apples and should not be encouraged. donald trump did this during his campaign. he encouraged people to beat up on folks who protested his campaign operations, so i'm not surprised, but again totally irresponsible. >> absolutely. you had another tweet this morning that said mike pence is somewhere planning inauguration. priebus and spicer will lead the trans

van! ♪[music] >> music from the '80s. temperatures in the 80s in some spots. not just yet along the oakland estuary. our studio is located in oakland. it is a mild day. the grayabove. that won't be the situation for all of us. don't worry. july 19th is getting off to a good start. i'm gasia mikaelian. >> good morning. i'm dave clark. i like the live pictures out there. steve paulson is talking about what you just saw in the forecast. >> you just heard split ends. >> split ends. >> one of new zealand's finest. >> is this a one hit wonder. >> no. they had a couple. >> oh. >> gasia is right. yesterday cooled off. fog favors areas to the south more so than the north. patchy fog in napa county. there is pretty good thunderstorms erupting in southern california. watch around oceanside. look at that. this is early from palm springs over to san diego. watch out for that south of l.a. fog south for us as well. san mateo and santa cruz coast. but that is starting to retreat. 50s on the temps to a couple 60s. 40s up towards parts of the north bay. upper 50s. stanford, 58. san mateo at 56. cooler towards pacifica at 52. there is a westerly breeze for some. variable breez