and it's like, how do you do, it's like really great and grover is really the one much.out of all sesame street or all the henson stuff that i really relate to, more than telewho's verying an vus sious. >> why grover? you know i have to ask this. >> he's super grover, he has an alter ego but he has a soft little head and he likes to be kissed on his soft little head and that area that he's always like offering up like just, you know, he's like -- he's sort of normal but he is often making social mistakes. >> yeah. >> like when he's the waiter and he always brings the wrong thing. >> i remember as a little girl relating to that but also being stressed. >> right. >> just being like i'm like that. and i get it and so anyway, i would like to sing a song to grover about manners because i also feel like manners are very important. >> yeah. >> and i think they soften us all. >> yeah. if that doesn't get you on sesame street, i don't know what will. >> yes, what the heck. >> you pitched that thing beautifully. >> what the "h," come on. and i know the whole alphabet. come on. [ l

join us is grover norquist, founder of americans for tax reform i assume you're not a fan of the two act taxes that are kept in the bill. what do you say to republicans who say we have to find a way to pay for it somehow >> the house bill and the original senate bill abolished all of those taxes and paid for what they needed to do on reform there are some politicians who wanted to spend more money, and they are being -- they got what they wanted, which damages economic growth because these are some of the most anti-growth tax increases in obamacare that will be remaining for a while. the good news runs as follows. they are going to get a health care bill. we'll block grant medicaid we'll get rid of most of the tax increases in obamacare there were a trillion dollars over a decade. now we move to tax reform. and that's where we will be able to get rid of the obamacare taxes that were particularly bad for economic growth. we have to do that as part of a pro-growth tax reform package. and the white house is focused on getting to a 15% rate for all business income. corporations and sub c

grover norquist, good to see you, appreciate it. >> good to be with you.issa: starbucks down 1% after posting lower quarterly profit. the company announcing closing all 379 of its teavana stores after buying the company in 2012. starbucks will continue selling teavana products in their own stores. i don't think anyone really knows what it is. nobody was buying. david: you like coffee or tea. melissa: and a whole store about tea? tea is not that popular. david: still deplorable. hillary clinton doubling down on the reason she lost the white house. melissa could have had a few shares on that one. melissa: plus battling leaks from inside the white house. the trump administration is cracking down, working to find what some are calling traders in their midst. next, rachel campos duffy, fox news contributor sounds off. introducing new parodontax. the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. help stop the journey of gum disease. try new parodontax to

maria: big bet there, grover norquist thank you so much. >> sure. maria: just a few wieb weeks too until august recess. is time running out. i talk to one republican congressman, to say only way to push through president's agenda is to cancel the break. did you hear that colleagues? stay with us on "sunday morning futures," we'll be right back. there's a denture adhesive that holds strong until evening. fixodent plus adhesives. just one application gives you superior hold even at the end of the day fixodent. strong more like natural teeth. for my chronic back painescribed backed me up- big time. before movantik, i tried to treat it myself. no go. but i didn't back down. i talked to my doctor. she said: one, movantik was specifically designed for opioid-induced constipation- oic. number two? with my savings card, i can get movantik for about the same price as the other things i tried. don't take movantik if you have or had a bowel blockage. serious side effects include opioid withdrawal, severe stomach pain, severe diarrhea, and stomach or intestinal

good to have you on the show, grover. saying massive tax relief. 700 billion dollars in tax breaks is that what you found? >> the senate bill reduces taxes by 700 billion. it's a good number. what's not reported in the press is the number of those taxes that directly hit the middle class. remember, obama when he ran for office and when he sold us obamacare said no one who made less than $250,000 a year would ever pay anything, not a nickel, not a penny, in higher taxes. in point of fact, quite a number of the obamacare taxes directly hit the middle class. if viewers ask do you have a flexible savings account for health care? 30 million americans do. obamacare damaged and taxed the fsa's, flexible savings accounts, the republican plan ends that and stops the taxes on flexible savings account. if you have a health savings account, 20 million americans do. the obamacare taxes damage health savings accounts. millions pay a penalty tax because they don't want obamacare and chose not to buy it. they paid $600 as an individual o

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makes it into the fear because of the appeal taught the, raise taxes or leave the rich alone. >> grovern is saying this would be a political win. the majority of americans agree with the notion of taxes, say, a bill gates and helping out a guy in the middle class. he picked up independents and reached a bipartisan graeme agreement on something like this, don't you think it would be a win? >> no. the president is putting forward a significant reduction on the tax burden. there's not a single democrat who would vote to reduce taxes overall. they'll cheerily vote to raise taxes on some people. that's what democrats do. but they also raise taxes on lower and middle-income people as obama did for obamacase, massive mini taxes on middle and poor people. they do e. oh, look we're going to tax bill gates over here other the kennedy and wheel they do that, they pick the pockets of middle-income people. it's all an effort -- it's a standard act that politics do, all taxes discourage whatever you are taxes, taxes income discouraging work. why would you do that more than absolutely necessary to fun

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. >> ...and walked away from it because he signed a pledge for grover norquist, a no-tax pledge. doesn't live here, but yet that was more important than making sure the commonwealth was attended. >> it's interesting to me that these later budgets and these fiscal spending packages have now become the new normal here in pennsylvania. you have essentially the senate republican leadership and the governor agreeing to a package that the house has said that they haven't seen and haven't analyzed, so you have real discord among groups that are naturally on the same page usually. and this new normal of, "our budget starts in july," or, "it starts in august," or, "it starts in december," i think we're on the wrong path in terms of just coalescing around when a budget needs to be done and having one done on time. >> so, a quick question -- who's to blame? because we're really sort of -- you know representatives in harrisburg. so why can't they agree? >> lot of diverted interests and not enough strong leadership. there's nobody there who -- you know, in the not-so-long-ago days, it would b

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and i'm sure that grover cleveland loves to be counted twice. but if we're talking about individual people, only 44 people including the current president have actually held that job. here's another item on our quiz. how many presidential elections have we held in this country. the answer to that is 58. a lot of two-termers and one four termer. we started having them in the 1700s, 1789. in terms of which american presidential election has been the most contentious, that is up for debate and every century has its candidate. which one was heavily scrutinized after the fact, that is pretty clear that we're living it right now. there were hints before the november election that something was off, something was going on in this one that was different. it all seemed almost too big to grasp at the time, in the middle of what was already this incredibly interesting campaign, this incredibly volatile campaign. but in the middle of all of that there was an external foreign dynamic at work. beginning with the news last summer that the e-mail servers of the

norquist on the stage. >> i am trying to get a set up an event with grover. that's on the same. if you're watching. >> make sure you bring that up, too. but i think a lot of what that nasa is talking about his narrative. i don't think we have created a narrative about taxation that people can understand and gravitate to. the narrative that we've got now is all topsy-turvy. for 30 or 40 years we've been told that if we get people at the top of many that we are all going to at the bottom. the only thing with them is misery. for example, i don't think most people know this. companies like wal-mart and mcdonald's actually have seminars to tell their people, if you can't make it on the salary we are paying you coming or some government programs you can go to. the waltons are worth $40 billion. we are subsidizing their employees. we are subsidizing their wealth with our tax dollars. if that's not insulting that doesn't get people up, there's no hope for this country. >> the tax simply on companies that sort of disproportionally his government benefits to subsidize

sesame's grover's word of the day there. >> she's talking about sesame street and grover and collusionhe said no, we don't have collusion yet, which seems to be not the right message. >> that was weird. >> yeah. the threshold for why the past week was so important was not that it proved something specific that happened. it's that it opened up a revelation that had been off the table for months now consistently the president and all the top aides have said there's nothing here nochlt one met with anyone. nobody knows any of these people. this is all just made up. this proves that that wasn't right. and so there's a whole lot that isn't known now, including what the u.s. intelligence agencies knew about any of this and when they knew t we still don't know that. who else was involved, what were these discussions. but the entire republican majority in congress has been asked to stand by their president and support him through very difficult times and have made the calculation that it behooves them to do this. number one because there was no evidence to the contrary, just a lot of smoke and

if next week he comes out and says grover cleveland was a stern critic of the new deal.one hand we'll be pleased and surprised to know that he knows there was a president grover cleveland but there comes a point this manages to be ludicrous without being funny when you have a president who doesn't understand the basic facts of american history. the basic realities of american governance and finds it impossible to put into simple declarative sentences what he's talking about. >> i want to listen to a professional diagnosis here. this is from a former professor at harvard medical school, professor of psychiatry. let's listen to what he said. >> lying in the way that he does it repeated, dangerous lying makes him unfit and is a sign of mental disturbance. i don't think he does know reality. he doesn't have a clear grasp of it because he changes it. he makes up reality to suit his internal needs. >> george, your column avoided any diagnosis that you're not medically qualified to make. were you tempted. i feel your column goes right up to the border of psychiatry. >> i stoppe

and i'm sure that grover cleveland loves to be counted twice.f we're talking about individual people, only 44 people including the current president have actually held that job. here's another item on our quiz. how many presidential electi

this is going back to grover cleveland. and not the modern state of the art grover cleveland of his second term after the benjamin harrison term, but this is during his first term during which the regulatory authority was given to the commerce commission, and the very first economic regulatory term of the u.s. this was his first term during which this regulatory was given to the commerce commission. the first in the u.s. and it is a fact that the fcc title 2 regulation is a direct descendant of that form of regulation. the interstate commerce act and the interstate commerce commission has been the model for all of the economic regulatory agencies at the federal level in our history. am the civil aviation authority which became the civil aeronautics board, the federal maritime commission, the federal power commission which became the federal energy regulatory commission and the fcc which actually if you draw the line back from title two regulation, i believe you'll ultimately get back to the interstate commerce commission wh

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i know grover norquist, for tax reform, he is a big champion of tax reform and oesn't want to move to residency-based taxation. this may have been included in platform inan party 2016, as well. i think it is something that awmakers are looking at and laying the trade-off of -- of reform, effort is there elimination or call for elimination of deductions for care or those ld kind of things that people cling on to every time they file taxes every year? what is discussion on that? guest: republicans want the mortgage interest deduction, the charitable contribution deduction and tax benefits for retirement savings. they plan to eliminate other deductions, including local state deduction, which is certainly a deduction that is often used. it tends to be used more in higher tax states, blue states. seeing some y republican house members and states like new york and new california try to push back on that and encourage congress to keep the deduction, for important constituents. host: what is the lobbying effort on this overall tax especially as people have individual interests and probably a

reporter trang do live at par vin state park in pit grover where the shutdown is forcing vacationersewhere else to spend their time off. good morning, trang. >> reporter: good morning, rahel, yes, as you can imagine, people are very upset about this. this is the third day in a row people will slow up to a state park and find the entrances block, with barricades here, but apparently not for everyone. governor chrigovernor chris chrt time at a state park that he ordered closed to the public. but people had to change their independence weekend plans last minute after turned away from the more than 50 new jersey state parks and recreation areas. friday republican governor chris christie ordered the partial government shutdown, in a hardball mover to get democratic law makers to pass his bill to overhaul horizon the state's largest insurer. christie says he'll line vaitai em any veto that doesn't come alongside the passage of hits bill. general as policemen bridge speaker said he would like to work on compromised bill for horizon after a state bill is passed. >> that is cement in the sand

new from grover night president trump and the first lady have arrived in paris ahead of the president's meeting today with new french president emmanuel macron. macron invited the president to take part in ceremonies marking bastille day. >> the president's trip comes after he is dog by allegations over rush. ush. in addition to news that donald trump jr. accepted a meeting in 2016 with a russian attorney with on hillary clinton. the president told reuters yesterday he did not learn of his son's meeting until a few days ago a the president says he does not fault his son for holding that meeting and says he thinks many people would have held such a meeting in two democratic lawmakers have filed for a notion have president trump impeached. brad sherman from california and texas representative al green filed for obstruction of justice. both cited trump's firing of former fbi director james comey. this came one day after the president's son, donald trump jr. publically released e-mails pow his meeting with a russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign. the effort doesn't stand any chance in the

check the schedules on line, then, also construction here, installing water main city avenue between grover place and rolling road. so this is actually going to be taking place between nine a.m. and 3:00 p.m. it will run you all the way through friday. and of course i'll be reminding you of that, as well, then some fun stuff talking about, in a little bit, rahel, back to you. >> thank you. new this morning, no injuries are reported after a fire at auto body shop in gloucester county. shop is on the 3,000 block of delsea drive in franklin. firefighters got to the scene after 1:00 this morning, flames under control in under an hour, no word on what caused the fire. >> new jersey law make letters try again this morning to come up with a new budget. meantime the shutdown has closed state parks and motor vehicle services at news conference, governor chris christie said if the state legislature sent him a budget, the shutdown would be over. instead he said lawmakers choose to go hold out. state lawmakers however say they're working hard on a compromise. >> they are not coming back here in a elect

gold dale, pates, logan, brock road, hazel grover, those communities in the path of this very dangerousrm and given the next 30 minutes or so if it holds together with some intensity fredericksburg is right in the path of this storm as well. so, again, nothing has been spotted. i'll keep a very, very close eye on it and let you know if anything changes. shawn jim barack to you. >> and we'll come right back to you gary. thanks for update. representative steve scalise continues to recover. he's back in the icu, his condition has been downgraded. >> in fact let's bring in fox5's tom fitzgerald life at washington medstar hospital center. fitz we understand he also underwent surgery. >> reporter: yes, that is correct. that is a development jim and shawn that just occurred within the last several hours. now, we had known that there was a change in the house majority whip's condition as late as last night. that is when washington hospital center released the information that they were downgrading the congressman's condition. why were they doing that? well, the official word was that they had g

american dream house government often kills us as it does it keeps growing and it depresses me bed groverg president for americans for tax reform has fought that tax simplification for 30 years and you have failed. is less simple than it ever was taxes are higher why are you so cheerful? >> the majority of the members of that task -- of the house we have not had a tax increase as long as the republicans controlled the house we stopped the bleeding as long as they can hold up one part of the government. obama what did trillions of higher taxes and republicans said no tax increase period we have to run a half trillion of spending restraint with 23 percent of gdp that is the federal government to stop the bleeding and it takes new leadership. john: politician say we have to get rid of this. >> is the one big victory the american people have against illicit and obamacare. but look to the states to see freedom flourish. home school was illegal and allstate's 30 years ago ted million are now being home school that is breaking into the monopoly. [applause] thirty years ago nowhere did a governme

grover earnings are pouring in as investors keep a close eye on the latest fed decision, 2:00 p.m. eastern today. with no change in interest rates expected and no news conference scheduled, investors will be looking for updated language on inflation and any details on a fed plan to unwind its balance sheet. and then of course there is washington. joining us is one of the biggest bowls, binky chadha, quick -- chief global strategist at deutsche bank. even when we have this crazy help to debate best health care debate, -- this crazy health care debate. binky: listen to the other part of washington. the fed is extremely important. i don't expect major insight or news coming out of them today, but the decline in inflation, the range-down behavior of the middle yield since the of december while the equities have continued to throw up. a pretty big disconnect. as you said, the key issue is inflation and how much the fed is going to take seriously what i would argue is a relatively modest and pretty normal, noisy pullback. how does the fomc statement have the power to move markets today?

at the pentagon under president obama the guy that's taken over that job he's actually i believe grover norquist like cousin or brother or nephew. said he's ready to do it and took the job wanting to do it so we might actually get that i'm a believer that there's a lot of waste in the pentagon and that increasing the budget and today's tight budgetary environment is irresponsible but cutting money back from medicaid which hasn't proven to do any good for the people that get it and cutting from other programs is should be on the table what about your say in the roughly seventy percent of medicaid recipients who are children and elderly people are getting no benefit from medicaid i'm saying that as a science i mean maybe roughly thirty percent who are mostly are the working poor they're getting no benefit i'm saying that it's a society i'm saying that the science agrees with me on this the owner of science there is there is science that agrees with me the only randomized study that talks you know you heard out that it's got nothing to do that what do you mean it's on medicaid it's on medi

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you sound like grover norquist now. julia: do you think that they will toss that?holas: i will be surprised if they did that. it's too easy to do. i've been wrong before, but i would be surprised. kevin: i spoke with the treasury department and he says that these reports about steve bannon pushing this higher tax rate on the wealthy -- some of these reports had been at like 45% -- there were not included in the framework for a reason. do you think that these reports of increased tax on the wealthy -- is that just some rumblings or something people should be taken more seriously? nicholas: i think it is dramatic rumblings. apparently bannon said it to someone. it's not clear who he said it too. it's not even a consideration in the bill. i would not worry about that. kevin: the washington at the chamber in full echio mode. julia: we have paul ryan and kevin brady say this is not something they are looking at here. i guess if we can trust them. [laughter] kevin: who to trust in washington? what about this issue of revenue neutrality. that is where people are nervous,

. >> grover norquist said we should see a bill by september 28. jon? >> jon: wouldn't that be nice?ike emanuel, thanks. >> molly: steve mnuchin and white house director of legislative affairs mark short are taking tax reform as republicans reboot their legislative agenda. i'm joined by richard fowler and also david avela. thanks nor being here. we appreciate it. >> good to be here, molly. >> molly: kicking things off when we want to talk taxes. the republicans have had a tough time getting forward on healthcare. do they see more eye to eye? is there more of a collaborative effort with tax reform? david? >> if we can't pass tax reform, it will be time to deflate the football and send the pigskin back to the pigs. we have to pass tax reform. it's ultimately helping spur the economy, that which is consumer spending and the belief by job creators that we're ultimately going to do tax reform. if we want to bolster what is going on in the economy right now and we want to actually spur it, we'll pass tax reform. >> molly: richard, what can democrats do here? is there a chance we'll see rep

grover, we are expecting an announcement from the gang of six. broad brush picture, they were supposed to put something out tonight. we haven't heard anything. does that mean they are not coming to agreement? >> it meanser in focusing. you have to chief side how much you want lower rates and how much you want permanence. you can have a more dramatic drop in marginal tax rates. you can go towards full expensing for a longer period of time. but then that may mean you don't under up with a permanent tax cut because it's not paid for. i side with those people in the white house who are arguing for going for dramatic pro-growth policies that may last 10 or 15 years, but not the quote-unquote permanent. if you have sound policy people will recognize it and make permanent that which worked. gerri: thanks to you both for coming in. federal officials charging 13 people with being material witnesses to the deadly human smuggling case in texas. 10 illegal aliens died after they were found packed into the back of a tractor-trailer in san antonio over the wee

they say that guy right there used counterfeit bill at a wawa along route 40, upper pot grover townshipy the man, he has several tattoos, left in silver suv. you see right there on your screen. take another look. do you know him? give police a call. >> coming up on 6:40, a south jersey woman is speaking out, about the cost of medical care for her childrenment is. >> she is shocked about a bill she got from children's hospital of philadelphia network. >> pam said she took her two kids for an annual wellness exam, normally covered by insurance. but when she received a 60-dollar charge that insurance wouldn't cover she called the offers. she says she was told that the charges were for the use of the ipads for a questionnaire that was prior to the doctors visit. >> she said: you filled out questions on an ipad when you got there. and i said: yes. she said that's what the charge is for. and i was like: that is ludacrous. >> chop is now responding saying the charges were for the clinic's time to interpret the results of the questionnaire. and not for the use of the ipad. but pam said she shou

. >> when i talk to art laugher or grover norquist, they say the cuts weren't pure enough, not deep enough. so their point is, no, no, the idea that if you lower taxes on people, they will take the money they save and spend it in a way that's stimulating to the economy is still correct, nobody has just done it the right way. >> maybe, but if you look at where tax rates were when republicans and president reagan cut them in the '80s you're looking at rates that were approaching 70%. >> when you go from 70 to 45 or 40, that's huge. >> huge. >> that's a big piece of money you'll saving, that you'll buy a car or washing machine in a way that's very different from 36% to 35% or whatever. >> absolutely. now, there's just not that much more blood you can draw from the stone. a lot of economists would argue. it willy some of the people i interviewed for my piece, club one of reagan's top economic advisers is saying that largely what the individual income tax cuts that supply-side economists wanted to see in place back then, it's all been accomplished. you can't really do all that much more with cu

. >> shout-out to grover. probably the best thing about that. other than that, you know, i think it's clearly a work in progress. them trying to figure out how to respond to this. it's essentially from the top down. donald trump is insisting this is a democratic hoax. there's no their there. that's all they're left with and resorts to props. i don't think it's very effective. i think they've got to figure out how to respond to this. what is the messaging? but even, i think, aside from the messages, the matter of an investigation a legal investigation into what happened all of these many months. was there collusion between the trump campaign and russia? they can go on fox and be cute, have sort of illusion and collusion, and props all they want. it's not really going to help them in terms of the legal case and the legal jeopardy they might be in. >> let me take a break here and go to france to cnn white house correspondent sara murray joining me now from elysees palace in paris. sara, a sense of what's going on in the room and how the trump team

. >> when i talk to art laffer or grover norquist about this, it's because the tax cuts weren't goodh, weren't deep enough. there are tax cuts on income tax, but not on this or that. so their point is no, the idea that if you lower taxes on people, they will take the money they save and spend it in a way that's stimulating to the economy is still correct. nobody's just done it the right way. >> maybe but if you look at where tax rates were when republicans and president reagan cut them consider. >> much higher. >> you're looking at income tax rates that were approaching 70% in some cases. >> when you go from 70 to 45 or -- that's big piece of money that you'll go buy a car or a washing machine or do something with in a way different from 36% to 35% or whatever. >> there's not much more flood you can draw from the stone a lot of economists would a argue and some of the people i interviewed including reagan's top advisers is saying largely what the income tax cuts supply-side economists wanted to see in place back then, that it's all been accomplished. you can't really do all that much

sesame's grover word of the day perhaps, sean. >> let's get the bottom line, shall we?nn political analyst david druker, conjunction junction, what's your function? >> you stole my joke. i don't know if you've been colluding with somebody and sneaking into my head, that's what i've been thinking of for the last couple of hours. >> what was she doing? because that predictably, extremely predictably, is all over social media right now with people putting all different kinds of things on pieces of paper there trying to make light of these questions. >> well, look, she was having a little fun. i don't think we should beat her up for that. i do think it was interesting that she did violate one rule which is never restate the air when you're trying to make a correction. so she threw the collusion word out there, she said not yet, which i'm sure a lot of people are saying, you're right, not yet, but we're getting there. so, you know, i think this will make the rounds for awhile. and it's just a part of what we're dealing with these days. >> it's making the rounds. and people a

the 43 other men who have been president of the united states, obviously grover cleveland was president twice, did not operate in that way, particularly in the modern-day presidency with tv cameras everywhere and photographers everywhere. and reporters writing down your every word. his willingness to sort of give what could have been a response or a speech he gave at a campaign rally in a diplomatic setting is fundamentally different than what we have seen from anything in the past. now, you can judge and i leave it up to folks to judge whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it is a thing. i think it is indisputable at this point that no president before him would do something like donald trump did this morning in poland. >> i want to come back to that point in just a second but i want to ping-pong between some of the analysts we have here and our correspondents in the thick of these protests. fred pleitgen, let me go back to you. what's going on again? >> reporter: yeah, we have a situation here, brooke, right now where you can see those are police water cannon trucks that wer

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they need money grovering would it go for infrastructure hasn't last 10, 20 years why would they changeou would have to mandate it like people say devil is in the details. but you would have to mandate it funds could only go for entrepreneur you could put a pretty good team going union operators, and industrial people to oversee this. >> when we talk about how bad things have gotten as to why having discussion how to address the problem here this morning, the cover of the "new york post" welcome to hell here in new york city, it is the day commuters have been dreading the massive summer repair project the nation's busiest train station pennsylvania station otherwise penn station kicking off what new york's governor called center of hell for commuters across the region is this symptomatic of transit problems we are seeing nationwide. >> you cannot continue to ignore rebuilding the infrastructure. you have a roof on your house you can patch it just so long. eventually has to be replaced. and we have been ignoring the infrastructure for a very long time. and everything is coming together n

grover norquist with us now, americans for tax reform president.proceed. all good news. yes? >> it is but this vote is not just a motion to proceed. this is a vote yes or no on is the united states ever going to fix entitlement problem. you can look at 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years and see that if we don't inform our retirements, the spending programs like medicaid and medicare and food stamps and other things, they bankrupt the country, they turn us into illinois, they turned us into greece, they turn us into detroit. you can see that coming. this is a vote yes or no on whether we are going to stop the country from ending up in bankruptcy eventually and i am a little surprised no democrat wants to have this debate. not shocked but a little surprised because they talk a big game when they want to raise taxes to solve the entitlement problem but they don't ever, this is what we are learning, want to reform the entitlements themselves. i hope there are not more than two republicans who have their head in the sand and their hands in the pockets of special

sesame's grover word of the day, sean. brian: nobody says that he don jr.ple blew out all their shows and breaks to run with it. ainsley: did it change the election results? no. was it smart of him to do that meeting? no. it wasn't. you are right. steve: we had corey lund on the program yesterday. he said people take this kind of meeting all the time. somebody comes in and says i think i have got some dirt on your opponent. what was unique about this though and now we know apparently this woman, the russian lawyer was a lobbyist. she was trying to get the russian adoption. brian: going to talk about that. ainsley: wasn't supposed to be here. steve: she wasn't supposed to be here except she wound up with a special visa granted to her bylor let that lynch in the previous administration because she was actually working for a land barron over in russia. he was on 230-million-dollar moy lndering defense here in the united states. so she was brought into the united states lawyer. the visa was supposed to expire in january of 2016. she didn't have the meeting with