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when you look at the invasion of ukraine and compared to grozny, for example, what has hindered this russian operation? whether they lack of preparedness or a lack of equipment or more row being low among russian troops? guest: in war, it's always a complicated picture and it is a bit of all of that. but in the strategic military mistake, in chechnya, it was a concentrated offensive. from the north, the east and west. russian groups were converging and uniting forces. in ukraine, they are moving in different directions. they are not converging with each other. it is as if they are trying to corral cattle or something. they didn't apparently believe ukraine would resist at all and it's hard to comprehend how such an operation was produced, but now we are stuck with it and the russian pr machine is working very good inside russia for the time being, but it will begin to falter because the fact russia's advance is trying to stop this is obvious. we ran out of reserves because we can't send troops from other parts of russia anymore because we are preparing if there is going to be a globa

and it was putin who sent the troops into grozny again.bble. russian troops drive into grozny, the city they destroyed in order to capture. in the suburbs, we saw mile after mile of total devastation, not a single house or cottage intact, giant craters everywhere. now, as always, we need to be careful with historical comparisons. as the associated press reports... and it's true that despite the horrors playing out in ukraine, this is not yet on the scale of aleppo or grozny. but it is — as quentin sommerville said — from the same russian playbook. it's this approach. if you don't have the manpower to take a city street by street, then they simply besiege it and starve and bombard people while conducting strikes on particularly hospitals, to make life unlivable in those cities and force a capitulation. this is particularly relevant because if putin was hoping for a quick victory in ukraine, that's not happened. they continue to be frustrated by a very stiff ukrainian resistance, and they're not making the kind of progress on the ground that

you know exactly what the russians did to grozny.ou know what the russians are doing, right now, to mariupol and may, in the coming days, try to do to kyiv, as well. can you withstand that? what russians are doing is the... this is the... actually, they committed crimes against humanity, and that's not just all russians, this particular putin, his military and those who support putin. i want to be very clear about this. this is the crimes against humanity, and putin isa warcriminal. as he is losing the ground in ukraine, absolutely, he wants to apply the same tactics as he did in grozny and in aleppo, as you already mentioned. so the only answer we have is a strong resilience and unity of the western world and ukraine. shipment and delivery of lethal weapon to ukraine. no fly zone if it's possible. supply of fighterjets to ukraine and ramp up sanctions against russia every single day. russian people have to feel the pain. russian economy have to be undermined. russian military have to be cut off of economic and financial, and energy

in the battle of grozny, which i don't think this is the model we should think, this is going to turnay ——they launched 30,000 rounds a day into the city before they entered it, that is what we're going to see next. and ukrainians have to be able to get into places, like the underground, weather that, and then somehow he has to push the forces he is moving into place that we see the armour and the tanks. no good soldier goes into an urban fight like this without a tank. and tanks without inventory are vulnerable. so he has to punch through the defence in some way. and ukrainians have done an amazing job from what i've seen, in preparing the defence. literally turning kyiv into a fortress city. i honestly think the model we should be thinking about is stalingrad, not grozny, not baghdad... 0k. i just want to pick up on one of the things, repeatedly calls from the ukrainians for a no—fly zone, repeatedly rejected, so let's park that, that is not going to happen — what kind of support do you think ukrainians need? they need as much anti—tank, so i know we have talked a lot about the jave

longtime new york times foreign correspondent was in grozny at the time. she says there was, quote, a stunning silence in russia in the days that followed as the leadership of the stock of what happened in the army, and the army sent in reinforcements. she described what happened next. quote, the russian army unleashed a terrifying onslaught of air and artillery strikes on the city. a modern, european city became a ravage moonscape. i remember how buildings were shown in half, and the contents of people's lives build out of their apartments into the open air. after three months, russian forces took the city center, and soldiers sat on plastic chairs guarding a wasteland of destroyed buildings, gouged earth and stricken tree stumps. after leveling the place, russian signed a peace deal with chechnya. but russia did not seem to get much out of the deal besides widespread destruction and tens of thousands of deaths. they seem to taxis lee acknowledged that's independence. but that boards johnson tapped vladimir putin to be russia's prime minister. putin decid

you were in grozny in 1996, i believe, is that right? >> yeah, mid-90s.sheer force against the civilian population. >> absolutely. it was a time when the russian army had surrounded the capitol of chechnya, grozny, and decimated the city with nonstop day and night bombing, shelling. >> artillery, and aircraft? >> exactly. and it effectively rendered the reality for people in the city a kind of suicide to be there. >> the city was really leveled and, i mean, there was not much distinction between or any distinction between civilians, and combatants. >> no, it was -- the intent was to raise the city and to drive people out of the capitol effectively, to make it uninhabitable and thus to be able to take over the republic. >> i keep trying to think of other places where i've seen a population as kind of unified to oppose an aggressor, and i think about sarajevo, and i was in and out briefly here and there in the '93, '94 range. you spent a lot of time in sarajevo, your photographs are extraordinary. do you have memories of satellitesarajevo when you come here

putin has done before on multiple occasions. >> yeah, comparison to grozny in the '94-'95 time periodat's a terrifying comparison. that was a hellscape after they were done with it. >> yeah, i think the u.n. called it the most destroyed city on earth. and between 5,000 and 6,000 chechens were killed. civilians were trapped in buildings. the russians said, oh, yeah, you can come out and have a relief column, and as soon as they came out and started doing a column to get out of there, the russians would bomb them again. it is exactly the same tactics that they used before. they should have been held for war crimes then. they need to be held for war crimes now, because they are targeting specifically civilians. >> it does seem like the u.s. is, you know, trying to provide greater anti-aircraft, anti-missile capabilities to ukrainian forces. how essential will that be moving forward for them? >> well, both the javelins and stingers that we have talked about so many times are important. drones will be critically important. the ukrainians are pushic back with their artillery, and i think th

it did in grozny, in 1999, and syria, in 2015. now, it is doing it in ukraine.his is a scorched earth campaign, to wipe ukraine, its people, its country, its history, off of the map, and quote. russian forces have surrounded the city of mariupol, not letting food, or supplies in. today, offering humanitarian corridors out of the city, only in exchange for surrender. and the rest of the country, russian forces have stalled, and no longer gaining new ground. one u.s. official, telling the wall street journal yesterday, u.s. military assessments, believe that russia is reverting to siege tactics. it is no longer can focus on conventional gains, like advancing into more territory, and are now focused on a war of attrition. using brutality, starvation, and cold, to get ukrainians to give in. harming civilians, to achieve military aims, is a war crime. but, it's uniquely effective one. senior officials in the biden administration, also telling the wall street journal, the administration's new assessment to president putin's intention, is he no longer intends to seize

today, a large-scale review of units of the chechen republic took place in grozny on novgorod square. thousands of volunteers gathered, many of whom had already participated in special operations. and now we are ready at any moment to fulfill the order of the supreme commander and stand up for russia reportage. artur mustaev. each fighter in full gear, a sudden check of combat readiness of this magnitude in the region is quite rare, but this time the special forces showed high efficiency and coherence of actions from the rostrum, the head of the republic ramzan kadyrov spoke to the fighters and said that everyone supports the decision of the head of state and is ready to stand up to protect the interests of russia, the state and we carry out any order of our supreme commander we worthy of continuing to do. hadji is visible to all flourishing cities, villages, developing cultures, sports, and we learned how to fight in order to fight to destroy, and in order to protect the majority of the fighters went through, what is called fire and water, many participated in special operations to d

these are photos from the chechen capital city of grozny. completely flattened, burned, and destroyed, after russian captured it in february of 2000. putin's victory there, helping him win the russian presidency, the next month. the insurgency that followed would, keep russian forces in chechnya for almost a decade. this is drone footage, from 2019, of the largest, most populated city and syria, aleppo. one of the most beautiful, and historic cities in the world, until russian support, and, in particular, russian airstrikes, started in 2015, to help the syrian president, bashar al-assad, regain control of the city. not by capturing it, conventionally, put by destroying it. this is footage out of the ukrainian port city of mariupol, from friday. hundreds of thousands of civilians, still there, suffering through russian bombardments, and desperate for basic supplies. the washington post, with ukrainian president zelenskyy's chief of staff said, what is happening to mariupol is a sign, of what's to come in the rest of the country. quote, this i

remember, grozny, aleppo, this is putin and his war machine. civilians all the way. that's how they do it. that's how they try to win. and it is something that is going to be very difficult for the world to tolerate. >> and that is what volodymyr zelenskyy is standing up in the face of, speaking to the european parliament. christiane amanpour, thank you so much. >>> and "new day" continues right now. ♪ >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. it is tuesday, march 1st. overnight, a devastating aerial attack on kharkiv. this is ukraine's second largest city. you can see while it was a direct hit on a government building in the historic freedom square of that city, ukrainians say at this point more than 20 people were injured in that blast. the ukrainian president zelenskyy said dozens killed. we're waiting for confirmation for that. at this point we hear more people are still trapped in the rubble. zelenskyy called the attack an act of terror and told europe's parliament moments ago that every sq

it's not going to feel like going into grozny.lic support, i suspect, in russia, from trying to flatten kyiv, and the problem is that now that he is bogged down, the only thing really remaining to him to try is to take — much more brutal methods, which i think would be unacceptable. it is fascinating to hear those scenarios and it gives such an insight into how these things work in the foreign office and the crisis centre, in the cabinet office, because you have got to have a framework to understand what is going on, but i wonder how we all fall into the trap that we've been accused of doing in the build—up to this, which is thinking about the past, comparing it to rational things, and actually, this is a completely unprecedented situation, and we could end up with something that the world has never seen before. i'm sort of hinting at, i don't know, the detonation of a tactical nuclear weapon in a city that we have heard of, or even in a city we have never heard of. rory, even somebody as wise and imaginative as you maybe needs to

we keep in mind grozny in the 19905, bear. suppressing the separatist rebellion they are, with the russians helped the syrians do in aleppo, right now we're seeing portions of cities being levelled but the russians could bring the full weight of their artillery and air power tojust full weight of their artillery and air power to just completely flat in cities, that is not making and its use for the russians, i am just saying this could get a lot worse, and the other thing the russians are doing is bypassing a lot of the cities in order to envelop ukrainian troops, this is developing particularly in the east and central eastern area of the country, a dangerous development for ukrainian forces. the dangerous development for ukrainian forces. ., , ., , _, forces. the pope has condemned civilian casualties, _ forces. the pope has condemned civilian casualties, describing - forces. the pope has condemned civilian casualties, describing it l civilian casualties, describing it as a massacre, but when you look at the defence of the ci

as we have discussed in the past you can look at grozni and chechnya, aleppo in syria, and you can see what that could look like. it is chilling. and you get from people we speak to, you know, a real sense of foreboding about how bad this could get. you mentioned the civilian death toll, the official one in the hundreds. it is likely much bigger than that already. and the sort of bombardment they're talking about just doesn't bear thinking about. already some of the video images from ukrainian towns and cities, what we know is happening in the port city of mariupol is horrifying. the reality is those awful images might be just a taste of what might be about to happen if putin follows through. >> the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy appearing for nato to do more -- appealing i should say for nato to do more to protect his citizens. he is not holding back tonight. right? >> absolutely. i mean, he is desperate. we've heard that. he is desperate right now for more help. let's just take a quick listen to some of what he said. >> translator: today the alliance's leadership gave the gr

you know, we saw aleppo and grozni, i went there as a young reporter and aleppo terrified me and horrible things happened there and at least there are people here, at least the world is watching what happens happening here and people aren't dying in silence because that's one of the things that is always, i think makes it even worse, dying in silence and no one paying attention. >> yeah. boy, anderson, keep doing what you're doing there and we'll continue to bring it to the world. we appreciate it, be safe and i'll talk to you soon. this is "don lemon tonight" and this is our breaking news. u.s. and nato believe russia is poised to, quote, bombard cities into submission in the ukraine, which could inflict many more civilian casualties. a senior western intelligence official telling cnn his experience with western leadership and vladimir putin leads him to believe, and i quote here, they have a completely different standard when it comes to respect for human life. and the u.s. official tells cnn that russia is planning to deploy up to 1,000 mercenaries in the near future. pentagon saying r

just think about the battle of grozny. the russians started on day one firing 3,000 artillery rounds a day. when they really faced resistance, it ended up being around 30,000 rounds a day. >> wow. 30,000 a day. i actually covered the retaking of mosul from isis in iraq. that sort of starkly illustrated how fighting in a city can be incredibly damaging to infrastructure, obviously, and far more likely to result in high civilian casualties. i think in mosul some estimates were 10,000 civilians died. just describe how bad it can get and why. >> yeah, so i think this will be ten times what the battle of mosul was. just because of the resistance you're fading. in the battle of mosul was 5,000, maybe 10,000 untrained terrorist, and it still took 100,000 forces backed by the most powerful and law of arm conflict abiding air power in the world, and it still took them nine months in destroying most of the city. this could get in the tens of thousands of civilian casualties and destroy every building there if the ukrainians put up t

as always, that while there is no corpus delicti or actual grozny can do nothing, that is, until artyom starts running after you down the street with a knife in his hands. the police do not interfere, but it turns out that so good afternoon. this is what i was asked to hand over personally ludy well, i'm luda yes, thank you. wait from someone. people and when mom arrives, soon petrusha and when soon well , soon soon. and we definitely won’t go to kindergarten today. well, where did you see a kindergarten here, around the cottage? you'd better play with cars or just run don't run far so that i can see you. and where is petya petya where are you? petya ay, petrush, ay, really, he hid well perfectly. just got a call from the clinic. dna matches father, congratulations. i told you, your kid will roll. yes you that this business should be noted. are you sure that they'll give it to you, maybe we'll take it ourselves, huh? konstantin , you sometimes think with your head what to think here, no one will give him a child, she was sitting. and we'll see about that, are you suggesting something to

tily the same situation in aleppo or grozny certainly.ous. he doesn't understand in a personal way how brutal combat is on his own troops, let alone on the enemy and civilians. so you have to ask what might he do to the city? and a lot of people are asking that question right now. and facing the grim reality of just a brutal toll on ukrainian civilians, not to mention these brave volunteers in the army. but you also have to ask if that doesn't even go well, if his troops continue to get stalled, remember, they're stalled outside the city right now. what happens when they try to go in? then might he resort to something else? we have to talk about that strategically. we have to talk about whether we need an off-ramp here because i'll tell you, i'm thrilled with how well the ukrainian resistance is holding up. i'm more concerned now about what putin might do. >> congressman moulton, i appreciate your time tonight and your experience. thank you so much. >> thank you, anderson. >> we'll be right back. illed ase is clinically shown in a 7 day s

they have done this in stalingrad, london grad, more recently they have done this in grozny.e seeing. people are talking such as -- like there is a stalemate going on right now. there is no stalemate going on right now. they're moving their forces into position, around kyiv, trying to encircle, get around it, but while they're doing that, again, they're firing the artillery from back here, and what we call they're preparing the city, they're rumbling the city ahead of town, softening it up, because they want to get kyiv to surrender and the generals are doing everything they can. >> speaking of, who is in charge here? it appears there is some confusion about who the top commander is in the field. >> let me be true, we do know that each of these areas have about three or four different units, and i would suspect that our intelligence people have identified those commanders for each of those subordinate units. and i think that's an important question to ask. because we seem to focus all of our concern at putin and the war crimes that he is committing. but, look, putin is just t

and i think the previous hour, we talked about chechnya and grozny. thousand grozny in the report after the end of the second world war, and they destroyed the count. that was the capital, and it was revolting against moscow. they covered bonded worse than anything that anybody has seen in europe since world war ii. and we see that kind of brutality there. we see it here. and we're already seeing it in ukraine. >> then, ambassador, to peter's point, we shouldn't be surprised to see vladimir putin breaking international norms. but when we sit here and say, this could constitute war crimes. this is unprecedented. or yesterday when the un general assembly condemned this, urged to russia to change course. does any of this matter? are we speaking a language that need means nothing to vladimir putin? he was never in it for the norms. >> great point. you know, after world war ii, we wrote down our lot of norms. we created the un security council. one of the norms was, thou shall not annexed the territory of thy neighbor, because that's the way world war ii s

the word grozni comes up.elerates this attack on ukrainian cities? >> well, yeah, first of all, as you were talking about, grozny is a perfect example. if this is a planned carpet bombing of ukraine. that would be horrific. what do we do about this situation? i don't think it's going to be the oligarchs because they just launder money. we really need to be looking at the military security elite type of guys that might becoming uncomfortable. those are the people who have real influence over putin. >> do you believe, it's the theory that -- whether it's the citizens of russia or security apparatus that is crucial in russia, so disgusted by this they revolt. that's how gorbachev was run out. he was trying to dissolve the soviet union. putin is trying to make it strong again. >> with gorbachev, the reason the coup plotters really got going and really started moving against him was because russia was falling apart. the soviet union at the time was falling apart. what's happening in russia? all of these sacnctions,

grozny and chechnya. he did nothing but level that city.ity initially, lost a lot of troops, learn his lesson. sat out and circled the city and shelled it into oblivion. their concern for civilian casualties and mark knows this. we have things called rules of engagement. they do not have those. they do not operate under those. civilians are relevant to them. >> benjamin: marks, i want to get your opinion on how the u.s. has handled this, how the administration has handled it. are they do everything you think they should have. do you think they could be doing more? big i think they could always be doing more and most of it should be in the sanctions. sanctions of the been put in place are real hard-hitting sanctions. i think we need to bite the bullet and pull the trigger on getting as many of those sanctions that are going to affect him. we've got to look at the oil and gas industry. we've got to affect that. that's one of russia's biggest exports, and energy. we have to take care of that. nato, at least one thing with nato is here finally

grozny was to rumble it was destroyed city on earth. to vladimir putin is desperate for the world not to see what he is doing inside ukraine. and these journalists and to alecia's point, these crews from news outlets around the world are incredibly brave to be there. not only in these pictures helping people who are trying to flee get out of the country even get out of kyiv but get into poland for example. they are incredibly brave to keep their cameras rolling and send these images, these atrocities how terror is raining down on the ukrainians to the rest of the world because that keeps the west and the world united against vladimir putin. latimer putin has achieved a near total control of information within russia where the people watching tv do not even believe there is a war going on in ukraine. remember it russia passed a law that threaten prison time for any news outlet that does not report on this war and the way that putin once it. you've had news teams shut down and russia. he is used to being able to control the information fl

and then lastly, i was just looking at this, in grozny, the russian offensive in chechnya, putin wason was starved. there was little food in the city, civilians were forced to flee and reported to human rights watch 1989 by medieval military -- in grozny. >> joel, yesterday, russian defense minister said that they do not threaten civilians, we've seen videos of bombs falling on apartment buildings. your foreign state department official. what is your reaction to when you hear the russian government put out this utter nonsense for lack of a better word? >> deplorable, disgraceful, contrary to logic, orwellian. this is why was so important, has been so important for the biden administration to do what it has been doing for the past several months. which is to publicly share information with the world, so the world knows that this regime, this russian leader, these people, or trying to gaslight the rest of the world into believing different from the facts on the ground. and i believe that that worked. we see the russians are desperate to try to show something different from what they ar

this is nothing yet comparable to what putin has already previously done and carried out in grozny andf this war. we're talking about a level of destruction that we haven't seen in europe in a long, long time. >> and i think part of the reason, look, wesley clark was on and he said doing the curfew is an indication there are already some russian forces that have gotten in. maybe not that many, but it is a way of saying stay off the streets, we don't want you caught up in anything. if that's where this is headed this week before this potential nato meeting, how does that ramp up the pressure on nato countries to do something, does it change the equation? >> i fear that just right now it doesn't yet. i think nato is still going to stay on the sidelines of this, precisely because they don't want a direct military confrontation with russia. the thing that everybody has been trying assiduously to avoid. but what happens, for example, if vladimir putin uses chemical weapons in kyiv or in mariupol. we have seen him and his allies in syria do the same. they're clearly preparing something, beca

lastly, i was looking at this, in grozny, the russian offensive in chechnya, putin -- the populationttle food in the city. civilians were forced to flee a reporting to human rights watch in 1999 about medieval siege tactics being used by russian forces in grozny. >> joel, yesterday russians defense minister said quote, the russian army does not threaten civilians. does not shell civilian objects. we've all seen the videos of bombs falling on apartment buildings. you are a former state department official. what is your reaction to what the russian government just put out this utter nonsense for lack of better word? >> deplorable. , disgraceful. contrary to logic, orwellian. this is why it's been so important for the biden menstruation to do what is been doing for the past several months. which is to publicly share information with the world, so that the world knows that this regime, this russian leader and his people are trying to gaslight the rest of the world into believing different from the facts on the ground. and i believe that that worked. so, we're seeing the russians, they're

this is the kind of stuff we saw an 11 poll, in grozny for the russian army, total, and total completeevastation using and direct fires knocking our infrastructure. this could be forecast for the russians will do inside kyiv. separately, very importantly from the same area, they have moved too kherson. kherson is one of the bridges that goes over the dnieper river. the dnieper river flowing in from the black sea all the way up, to the center of ukraine. and if they can get through and over that western site, they then have the ability to move all the way to the moldovan border, essentially, stealing of southern ukraine, and all of the port access, which would allow them, if they want to, two to start landing military force in places in and around odessa. essentially creating a southern front. let's jump to the big picture real quick to finish off, which is what the strategy is. their original strategy is what i call three friends and a coup. they were trying to come in in three directions, one, from here, and one from here. neither appears went really well. here in the south, they're s

you go bac and read about a grozny attraction. you go back and read about aleppo, syria. the world knew this was going to happen. you go back and read stories that were -- where here is some of the headlines. russia forces slaughtering chechnya and syria. bombed hospital, schools, civilian apartment. it looks like reducing ukraine to rubble. then you look back just a year ago and dan mentioned that we had a shipment of arms that was going to ukraine and this was right after putin started moving troops to the order. we held up a second shipment of arms. how did we not know that this was going to happen? women and children would be murdered and slaughtered. they didn't care. all you have to do is be a student of history to see who vladimir putin is, he is a monster. president biden reaching out to other countries to import more oil. the leaders of saudi arabia on the united arab emirates reportedly did not take the reportedly did not take the president's call. what the white house is saying next. you can buy a home with no down payment. and they're still holding rates in th

it took them two months to flatten grozny. they killed 20,000 people.wo months. we could do things right now that might even if they take weeks, they might kick n a month. but, you know, sit on your hands and say, you know what? steven choose the vision of european priced oil united states 8 or $9 a gas is what we really want. i think that's what it is. what we see is a crisis and a complete human catastrophe they say well, we have to break a few eggs to make an omelet and you know what? if this is what it takes, it will remind people that fossil fuels are just too expensive and now green energy is competitive. and that's how they think. i think people don't realize just how bankrupt these people are. >> jesse: yeah. it makes them complicit in what's going on right now. >> it does. >> jesse: if you think about it. >> perfect active. >> jesse: thank you very much vdh for enlightening us as always. >> thank you. >> the russian oil war may lead us toward an energy crisis. the likes of which we have not seen since the 1970s. it's not just embargoes hurting

russia can turn all of ukraine into grozny and aleppo and putin is trying to indicate to us he has enoughty in him to do that. but the ukrainians have been resisting. russia has not accomplished its wargames. therefore, the very reality is forcing putin to compromise also on his aims. that allows for the possibility of some sort of diplomatic solution, but i think it is too early to say at this moment what it may look like. both sid are still engaged in a very brutal war. >> it is good to talk to you, thank you very much for your input. sergei mentioned the russia-chinese relationship. we will be delving deeper into that in a few minutes time here on "outs narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪ narrator: you're watching pbs. ♪ da-da-da-duh-da-da-da♪ ♪ da-da-da-da-da-da ♪♪ ♪ ♪ narrator: fu

we've seen russia use similar tactics before in grozny, in aleppo.hey stepped up their bombardment with the goal of breaking the will of the people. yesterday, president biden said that in his opinion, war crimes have been committed in ukraine. personally, i agree. intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime. after all the destruction of the past three weeks, i find it difficult to conclude that the russians are doing otherwise. the consequences of moscow's war are being felt around the world. in rising food costs, concerns about fuel supplies, more broadly in worries about how this war will affect the global economy and the fight against covid-19. these are serious issues that the global community urgently needs to address. this war is making that much more difficult. in this way, russia's actions are having an impact on every person on the planet, wherever they live. we also feel the impact right here in this room. there should be a seat reserved here today for benjamin hall from fox news who was injured badly when his vehicle came under attac

two months he leveled grozny, eight months in the chechnya war and then he just said i had to destroyitself. if that's one thing. the other thing is you mentioned chernobyl today in europe, 35 years later and people get shivers up their back still. that was one of the most traumatic events, whether it was really a serious as people thought, i don't know, but he has been recklessly saber rattling about nuclear weapons in the nuclear option, and when he gets anywhere near a nuclear plant, he is sending a message to not just ukrainians, but the europeans, and capable of anything at anytime and you thought chernobyl was bad, just watch me. and of course i don't know if he's thinking of about this, but is the largest exporter of coal, natural gas, and oil in the world and a lot of people have said if we are going to wean ourselves off of carbon fuel, it's going to have to be through nuclear power and batteries or tesla's but we need to generate cheap electricity, and that's one way to do it, so i think is also saying you know, there was the japanese reactor 3-mile island, chernobyl, things

we saw it in chechnya in grozny , the capital of that, the provincial capital of grozny, as putin tried to bring that back under russian control, this kind of indiscriminate bombing or it looks in this case. like it was . it was targeted at a maternity hospitals just the way he does war, and they certainly are one worker crimes. okay so if we've seen it before we're seeing it now, do you expect to see more of it there in ukraine? yes, i do. he's clearly not conservative pr ish should be. this is a really stupid thing to do doesn't have to do this. but putin's way of thinking is that of an old style. kgb guy and not not the smartest one. he thinks you demoralize the population. you grind them down. you just roy, their ability to resist a psychologically by doing this, and he thinks that people can be ground down like this. ukrainians will not be ground down by this. it will just make them more angry. it'll mobilize more global support for their cause, of course. this makes the cause absolutely clear in moral terms as if it wasn't already right. but this war for is not in putin's putin's

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the russians, we have seen them operate this way in grozny, in syria come on they are frustrated withir advances, they turn to these brutal, indiscriminate tactics. the russians are not well known for their concern about human rights and civilian caalties. they seem to be doubling down on these really harsh tactics. lewis: very ugly, i want to get your dots on these prime ministers arriving in the capital for talks with zelensky. it sounds very risky. guest: i think it is very risky but worth it. these are three brave heads of state, heading into show their support. i think it would be a huge morale boost for him in the ukrainian people and i would hope the russians are taking very careful note and being sure they are engaging in command and control toward anything they are firing toward kyiv right now. lewis: emily harding, thank you for joining the program. i'm lewis vaughan jones, this is "outside narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and p

when you go over what he did in grozny, what he did in chechnya. i got to tell you, this is fabulous, put up by the army, it doesn't take long to read, chechen wars what you see is putin comes in, and he says, what the heck are we doing here? let's level the city with artillery because our soldiers won't get hurt i think what people are forgetting is you can level a city with artillery. this is the threat i don't understand why people aren't talking about it. it's been the pattern. it was the pattern in syria, and it was the pattern in chechnya so what the heck are we thinking we think that, you know what, he's just going to like say that was it. >> all right, well, unlike our country in 2003 where there's actual pressure that can be brought to bear because we're a democracy, it's unclear where the pressure will come from. >> one of the things that his -- there was reckless disregard for killing civilians in syria and in chechnya. by the way, a lot of russians died in chechnya. >> a lot of russians are dying here as well a lot of soldiers are dying

now as for russia on the territory of ukraine, it’s like grozny did not sound like the third world ware war of the russian federation with the west. as for the situation directly on the line of contact, then here, if it starts from the left flank, then, uh, in the nikolaev kherson region, there is an intensification of military operations, clashes are taking place on the outskirts of chernobaevka, as for the kiev region, then uh in the western part in the polygon . and irpin bucha buzovka, and gostomel, uh, there are fights going on, you can say the local significance of significant changes. there in situation did not happen, and rumors about some kind of encirclement of russian troops. well, let's just say they are greatly exaggerated, as for chernigov, this city is densely surrounded by russian troops, if earlier there were some kind of uh gaps in the ring, now it is not there, the city is completely blocked and intense hostilities are going on in the vicinity of the city of sumy in the city area reed. as for the further plans of the russian command. well, we can only guess about the

and the oil fields and vice versa, we give life if maykop and especially grozny pass intact. already in april 920, the baku bolsheviks crossed the border of azerbaijan and handed him a golden ultimatum. and they surrendered to you to avoid victims, to know what they bought lies. but in 1903, the oil field was a pawn in a big political game , it is known from official soviet history that on june 1, 1903, in baku, where 9/10 of all russian oil was produced, a led bolsheviks, the general strike, famous for the personal contribution of comrade stalin. it was not quite like that, there were unmotivated, external disturbances, strikers, they did not put forward any demands, but they were worse. set fire to the pass. lana rose above 100 m, only until the end of 1903, burned down a million tons. in the next 1904, 225 punks burned down . people lost their last hopes . the so-called stachki burned down more than half of the well 2/3 drilling, which caused a sharp decline in oil production, the loss of foreign markets for kerosene in favor of the americans rockefeller as the end of the

liberated from nationalists from the chernihiv region, report evgeny davydova cover from the sky grozny ka-52 next to him circling not eight together protects the convoy from the air, you have to move at ultra-low altitudes. our targets are escorted by ground columns. uh, transportation of material assets of personnel, but the helicopter has an airborne defense system that diverts missiles to the sides. and further, we have thermal traps and fly at extremely low altitudes, and in order to reduce the time spent in the enemy’s zone of destruction under the most difficult conditions with a constant threat of shelling the ground. they accompany groupings of troops and deliver the special forces unit to the places of combat missions. despite the fact that most of the ukrainian air defenses were suppressed, there were still many portable anti-aircraft systems, american stingers and soviet-made manpads. we have to be careful when escorting the columns. we, accordingly , provide maximum safety both for the crew and for the column itself, along the way, the movement of the columns is worked by a

the other four, he did the same kinds of things in aleppo and grozny, so this is nothing new.so it's appalling what they're doing. this is back to the days of stalin, and it's going to get worse. and it's not just the big cities either. we can't forget that these smaller urban areas are being hammered all over ukraine. those cruise missiles they fired at the ukrainian military base near poland had 700-pound war heads. these are massive strikes that will indiscriminately hamper not just infrastructure but kill civilians. >> it's a horrific scene unfolding. i think in the earliest days, someone said this is the first war that's been waged really in a time of universal social media access, that moscow bureau chief for the "times" who's now in istanbul said even inside russia, there's still mostly access to the internet for people that want it. i wonder your thoughts on where things stand today. >> certainly from europe's point of view, this is the first war of that nature. for those of us who have been covering the middle east now, we've seen other wars that have played out on ou

and so they say, well, grozny it was rebuilt.ol is worth building about in a couple of years. we do not recognize this beautiful city. but now we have to finish. we need to clean this scum from this scum, and i will be subjective, i sincerely wish that they hung like a garland on a magnificent track. here, along the street of mariupol, everyone who is involved, uh, in the murders of peaceful civilians. thank you very much akim i ca n't of course join this at will your emotions. i perfectly understand your emotions. i understand perfectly, akim thank you very much. and stop. the only thing. wait, everything doesn’t go out of my head, this is a basement with people on which it’s outside. damn, i’m talking to me, i don’t understand, it’s just that a castle hangs outside. well, that is, it is clear that this is not one such basement, probably, this is the whole approach. but in general, the approach they use, but this is the tactics of the methodology of the islamic state, a terrorist group banned in russia. they just adopted it. see

with the willingness to flatten cities, as we've seen in aleppo in syria, as previously happened in groznyjust one more thought about ukraine, because i do want to squeeze in discussion of other humanitarian crises, but volodymyr zelensky, the president of ukraine, has specifically asked nato to impose a no—fly zone over significant parts of the country. if the west does it, he says ukraine will defeat the aggressor and with much less blood. you are a former foreign secretary. do you think you would give consideration, if you still had that power today, to the notion of nato imposing some sort of no—fly zone over ukraine? president biden and the nato leaders have said absolutely clearly they�* re not willing to intervene. the step to a no—fly zone would be a very significant intervention, but i'm sure they will be discussing it. and so to your question, can it be considered? i'm sure it will be considered, but obviously it would carry enormous consequences, because it would pit nato directly against the russian attack in a way that nato leaders have already said that they're not going to d

they fired 30,000 rounds a day and this is not grozny.d bringing inforeign fighters, is that something that worries you? yeah, it worries me. stalin says that quantity is its own quality. you need a lot of infantry combined with your armour. some of these fighters may be hardened urban fighters from syria, they could not be. it's concerning but it's also a sign of desperation, to be honest. putin is desperate. that's dangerous. as you know a caged bear is dangerous. but these are desperate measures. a lot of the stuff we see are really desperate measures. this city attack is not that ago the way his generals are saying it will. if it doesn't, do you think there is then potential for russia to turn to chemical weapons, the use of chemical weapons as it did in syria? i personally don't think so. i think there's been enough recognition in the international community to say that a line, if you cross it things will change. nothing is possible and i would prepare, gas mask and every aspect. to be honest, syria is not ukraine. the whole world is

they burn and spoil oil and oil fields, and vice versa, we will grant life if maykop and especially groznyver intact. it worked already in april 920, parts of the red army crossed the border of azerbaijan, the baku bolsheviks, handed him golden multimats, and you surrendered to avoid casualties, to know what they bought lies. but in 1903, the oil industry was a bargaining chip in a big political game. official soviet history that on june 1, 1903 , in baku, where nine-tenths of all russian oil was produced, a general strike led by the bolsheviks, famous for the personal contribution of comrade stalin, began. it was not quite like that, there were unmotivated external riots, the strikers did not put forward any demands, but the arsons were more terrible. lana's pass was raised.

well, not only from the type of nakert, the city of grozny was also restored, too, tashkent was there. that is, we have such a practice. but on the one hand, we regret that this is exactly what is happening with the cities of ukraine that were not supposed to be stormed, and so on . initially, such a task was not considered that the army should fight the army, and not the army to fight the army that is hiding behind civilians people. moreover, they are now destroying the entire urban agglomeration, that is, it destroys all power supply communication systems. the water supply destroys the medical facilities of the school. that is, they work such total destruction so that people cannot live in this city , and you understand that in these conditions it is always necessary to resolve the issue such that the first thing is to restore housing. electricity supply to a kindergarten, a children's school, and there are, well, a lot of mines. that is, there, before you come to recovery , you need to check everything for the presence of a change. that's when here they liberated the territory of d