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the within months the cia wrote out these methods within guantanamo and all its black sites. they call them enhanced interrogation techniques with a turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with our cader, who had no experience with interrogations, and had no experience in the middle east. gemini, went into a cubicle, sat down, and he sat down at the typewriter, and together we rode out the list as techniques that we thought had worked well in the series school. well, i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the captured detainer. who did not, did not apply to the capture detainees by the attorneys at the cia. and so i don't think i thought about geneva convention may became what i often refer to as a modern day equivalent, a snake oil salesman. these 2 psychologist were awarded $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. ah, you don't to camera sensory deprivation overland along with the cold, we'll see a program to create her reflect mix of torture techniques. social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence on somet

and in many cases, for them, it will now be guantanamo bay. william program has been known to guantanamo bay, which could be in trouble in population. ah, what makes this issue important? guantanamo has become the calling cry. torture is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great. again. the united states right now is one terrorist attacks away from re instituting torture. since the 1950s, we know these techniques have been used in afghanistan, argentina, australia, sonia, present the british guy on the british camry, canada, cuba, great britain. what a 100 iran, iraq, israel, lithuanian morocco, northern pockets. don't. the philippine poland. romania, thailand, turkey euro. why? and i the ah, i need to talk to someone that could touch base with anybody when me and i got a job when i'm in a position where you may need questions on it for one of our wonderful day join me. i was, i got to know how to choose, you can put an offer me quite a bit as long food. i want to tell you the truth that he can. that's

so right off the bat, the fact that he was incarcerated guantanamo bay is meaningless. was this man to tell about when he was detained? most probably was he lying when he talked about his simple roots? probably. did he rejoined the taliban after being released? absolutely. none of that's a crime, none of it's surprising. none of it matters. this is, you know, i mean to, to turn this into a story is to deflect from the reality that the telephone one in one because we released a detainee in 2007 who went on to become, you know, a senior senior member. they won because they were fighting on their land for their cars amongst their people. and that's, that's the real story. this is purely a distraction. if we think about people who've gone through on time and also the been detainees, that us prison camps and iraq is going to be high profile. isolated with the put them getting to is to what extent to people who go in the go in as people considered to be terrorists and to what extent they become turned into extremist by being in the well, there is no doubt if i were detained u

he was released without charge after 14 years in guantanamo or i was no match for them. they destroyed and they won. they broke me. and there is nothing i could say to save my face or to say, or i want. no, i do not. because those people out of professional doctors who studied just for this purpose, to destroy the human spirit and make it dependent b d n, and make them confess to what ever they wanted them to office or in august 2017. the 2 psychologists who created the cia torture program were about to be put on trial. we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do . we knew it was lawful. we knew it was a wiggle. we knew it had been rented and approved. do you think it's possible, as a psychologist, that individual was subjected to them or suffered a long term visible or psychological rejection? do you think it's possible that sleep deprivation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering? objection? the c, i a settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. no liability was admitted. world law and government will intensify the problem of the

we had at guantanamo were there based on bounties.g system in the us government was dropping flyers to pay for prisoners. so many of the prisoners at one time amo was sold by warlords and wound up there. many came through the bug rum collection point and were subjected to some brutal treatment there as well as when they got to guantanamo. and that type of treatment has scarred many of them. during one of the hearings, one of the groups known as the taliban and five swapped for an american in 2014 by president obama, he said that there is a 25 year war between person—to—person, village to village in afghanistan, city by city, province by province, tried by tribe. if you think that is a crime that every person in afghanistan should go to prison and we should bring them here to guantanamo. one time amo to them and around the world is a symbol of torture and injustice and oppression. as long as president biden keeps it open and it is a subversion of the rule of law he will have trouble with legitimacy and negotiating with people, especial

and in many cases, for them, it will now be guantanamo bay. william don't construction program has been known that going to move a which could see it treble in population. what makes this issue is going to animal has become the calling crime. torture is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great. again. the united states right now is one terrorist attacks away from re instituting torture. since the 1950s, we know these techniques have been used in afghanistan, argentina, australia, sonia, present, british guy on the british come or me, canada chimney, cuba, great britain, water moment, 100 iran, iraq. israel, if you a morocco. northern park is done the philippine romania, thailand. turkey euro, why and i the i financial guy, i don't buy a guy, mom, a teacher's that's not an almost friday at the last time i buy it in the future. so crack, watch kaiser and join me every thursday on the alex simon show. and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politic sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you t

surely me the answer tell about africa fighter who endured imprisonment by the americans in guantanamo, but who still undaunted return to fight for his country. his story as next on r t international the a military mission against dam. we'll conclude on august 31st were ending americas longest war one phone for who did a good to us all the quote unquote, a young girl who will bundle you through so much you got to do something that company is something you cut, cut all that money was the key code to show that this was the right weapon against the right and the local no, no, no bought it from but it was filled out through z o o z the the signing of the us to all about agreement and laid the groundwork for the road ahead toward a lasting peace in afghan the stand the night and i know that i'm a dunaway and those who i me to remove the good, the speed of the whole book. only the butcher to this was how american soldiers tormented hodge. i live in grand prison, where he'd been held for 5 months. but just to go, a lot of people go with us or go to the, to who the job. she's ever go this much

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and fighter who enjoyed prison been by the americans in guantanamo. but then who still undaunted, returned to fight for his country. his story has next, only on me a military mission against dam. we'll conclude on august 31st. we're ending americas longest war phone for who did a good to us all the quote unquote, a young girl who i really need so much. you got to do something that company will cut the cut over. what are the most okay, but i'm going to get a quote to show that this was the right weapon against the right and the local news about somebody to go out through z o o z the signing of the us to all about agreement and laid the groundwork for the road ahead toward a lasting peace in afghan the stand and i know that i'm a dunaway and those who i me but the speed of the whole book, only the berkshire to greeted this was how american soldiers tormented hodge eagerly been by graham prison where had been held for 5 months, but just to go, a lot of people go, go to the, to the us government job. jeez, every other much get us the bus. shut out, but i

and so what they did was they sent a colonel to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said, going to hannibal be, is america's battle lab. and the moment i heard that evoked memories of nuremberg evoke memories of what the non nazis were doing experiments. the things they started with was live the visual regime. and then in mass of guy brought to the song, it was very dog except for still applied and then he stops playing the music little small for the long you know, you, i cannot explain to one someone is doing shackle shackles on the floor. and a group of people, 2 women and a guy come and for them on to me. ah, no, that war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00 was shocked. and i think we had been deeply frightened and i think that fear was exploited. certainly in the years after that and continued to be exploited, the understanding is even more native detainees than any other fashion. i, you know, i've met a number of them, you know, so many, probably more than anyone outside. can you tell me i can't specifically talk about what i've my meetings

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s. tortured in guantanamo. this was one of the guys deems thought, really dangerous, and let go meet goal roo honey. one of the 1st detainees at guantanamo in 2002. he was captured by us forces on suspicion of being a taliban security officer during his time and get more money maintained that he was, quote, a simple shopkeeper who tried to help americans. so some 5 years later or 8. according to ronnie he was released on the promise that he just wanted to help is sick father won an appliance store and couple fast forward to 2021 and he's a taliban commander leading the takeover of couple. so either the u. s. intelligence was, well, not really intelligent, and lana taliban radical pull one over them and lie his way out of the hands of the ca, or it was the time to spend and get know that actually radicalized the simple shopkeeper into a taliban fanatic. don't matter if a detainee were innocent. indeed, because he lived and they've got to stop and was captured on or near the battle area, he must know something of

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after 5 months since graham prison gal, it was sent to guantanamo bay detention camp. 4 years later, after being found innocent and relieved, he took up his gun once again. the former governor to cover 100 lipp comes from the ship. worry about june try since 2015. he's been the head man in june district, one of the most dangerous places in the state. the taliban and later rises constantly trying to take over the country. got been his men successfully repelled their attacks, but recently he was relieved of his duties as district head not but he was so can look at a certain focus or mustang home. i've done this meanwhile, but they were jennifer who showed did he says he saw, you know, he says he already got lived now lives in couple. his launched an appeal against his dismissal in an attempt to regain his old job. even though he's no longer the head, pudgy regularly visits his old districts to see friends meet with the elders and inspect the checkpoints. this road has always been dangerous even more so now, fighting between the gun ami and the taliban has escalated, but that doesn't st

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i don't know if president trump set folks free from guantanamo bay.i find out he has and see that report i'll say similar things about him or bush or anyone else. this is 330 million americans against a ruling class in washington, d.c. and a bunch of generals that care more about building their career than winning a war. i'm tired of it and we deserve better >> harris: it is hard to think of being on that tarmac and trying to get on to the plane. you are an american. you are trying to wade your way through the people on the tarmac now and a vet there to get our own people out and the taliban says we'll sit out here and protect the perimeter. what happens if they change their minds and decide to engage? >> yeah, think about this. we have a few thousand troops surrounded by for what i know to be probably 10,000 or more, tens of thousands of taliban. in a powder keg stand-off and we're relying on the taliban to uphold their word that innocent american civilians can get through their checkpoints to that airport. what happens the moment the taliban decides

one of the 1st detainees at guantanamo in 2002, he was captured by us forces on suspicion of being a taliban security officer. during his time and get more re, honey maintained, that he was called a simple shopkeeper who tried to help americans. so some 5 years later or 8, according to ronnie, he was released on the promise that he just wanted to help. his sick father won an appliance store and couple fast forward to 2021 and he's a taliban commander leading the takeover of couple. so either the us intelligence was, well not really intelligent and let a taliban radical pull one over them and lie his way out of the hands of the ca, or it was the time it's been and get know that actually radicalized a simple shopkeeper into a taliban fanatic don't for detainees were innocent. indeed, because he lived and got to stop and was captured on or near the battle area. he must know something of importance. well, apparently all the torture and human rights violations that get mall, and other us detention centers turned out to be all for nothing. sure, they apparently got some good intel out of s

gave a victory freed from cobbles, presidential palace was in fact, a former long time resident of guantanamo bay. ah . as the world turns 247, this is archie into national with me. we'll re sushi. let's get straight into your wednesday news stories. first, this morning, more scenes of chaos from afghanistan. it's of course, following the taliban take over a hundreds of afghans including women and children who are seen queuing up outside cobble international airport. on tuesday, i hope to be evacuated. a large group of locals could be seen waiting along a barbed wire petitions holding their remaining documents as plains took off in the distance. one of us wait for the british and for the americans, and i have my documents with me right here for these 10 years. i work with them. now i'm in danger. as you can see, the enemy is here and that is clear to everyone. they must have vacuum me from here as soon as possible. i come here 3 or 4 days in a row. there is nothing to eat and the people flee because of hunger. i have worked 6 or 7 years in the back room at base. and now i fled my village and

the fact that i want to all skew is so ronnie was released from guantanamo back in 2007. what do you make of that? was it serious security lapse? wanted washington genuine. the thing that he didn't pose a threat here well it, it's kind of irrelevant. we do know that more than 90 percent of all the people rounded up and taken to guantanamo and tortured and held him solitary and held under terrible conditions for years. the u. s. had absolutely no evidence on or the evidence was completely mistaken and distorted. so it's not surprising that he would join forces resisting the us after an experience like that. or he may have been part of it to begin was impossible to know. we do know, though that 20 years later, there are still people at one time tomorrow who have never been charged, and yet they continue to be held in and not the cases, detainees, all of us prison thompson wrong, for example, have gone on to become high profile i believe is why all these come such breeding grounds for terrorists? well, they're really breeding grounds for us torture. and there is no excuse fo

the one of the men is a fighter that said he was held at guantanamo bay at well.ormer gitmo detainee told the review board that was a shop keeper that wanted to return to afghanistan to care for his sick father. he was released by the bush administration. ambassadors asad was negotiating a peace deal with the taliban. the biden administration and the u.s. military are left to negotiate with the taliban with the same leaders that the obama-biden administration released from gitmo. martha? >> martha: quite a story. thanks, jennifer. joining me now, peter king. he served at the time of the bergdahl swap. good to have you here. >> thank you. >> martha: if you wrote this as a terrorist thriller, you couldn't write this script. these individuals are back at the table and part of the negotiating team on how he would leave afghanistan when they sat down with our own envoy. your thoughts. >> yeah, this is so tragic. it's part of the overall scenario, which is indefensible. this particular situation, at the time the pentagon said that those taliban were too dangerous to rel

the same thing with guantanamo bay. deal with these prisoners and we haven't managed to figure out exactly how to deal with them yet after 20 years and all the brilliant legal and military minds that we have working on the issue. now, there's something called the authorization for the use of military force and at the beginning of my fourth novel here and i wrote seven days after 9/11, congress passed a 275 word resolution titled the 2001 authorization for the use of military force, the document granted the president of the united states the authority to bring individuals and countries involved in the attack to justice. 20 years later it's the sole legal basis for the continuing war on terror and we have a fatwa from 1998 and that says to kill americans and allies is an individual duty for every muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it. so the question is, after we bring all the troops home from afghanistan, what's the legal authority to continue to hold these last 39 prisoners and of the 800

gave victory speeches from the african capital, presidential polish, spent years as a detainee. guantanamo wood, the terrorists. now the de facto leaders of afghanistan, we speak to the group about recent development. the withdrawal of us troops had to be carried out in a strictly organized manner. the world can see that the territory of afghanistan is now under the control of the atlantic em or you reality enough. galveston is making you, you. lead is anxious over a potential migrant crisis to point people slee, the country for your belong to everything that has followed, has not been as successful, and has not been achieved in the way we have planned. we must anticipate and protect us against major irregular. my great 3 flows. ah good evening. thanks for joining us here on the didn't. we'll seize a chaos and if can stand after the taliban takeover of the country gunshots were heard at the international airport in cobble, as people scramble to flee the new regime. some tried to scale perimeter walls and fences to reach evacuation flights. some dragging their children over the barbed wire