once again, guantanamo bay $80,000. where did these come from and how have you been able to parse out the numbers? guest: we added the supermax because there is a small group of people there that would be more like the supermax than it would the dad county prison. we tried to give comparisons for those in maximum security, not necessarily solitary confinement, but on their own, to mix it all up. what we knew all along was that the commanders down there had told us to think of the guantanamo as an aircraft carrier in the sea. it is totally dependent. they create their own water, their own electricity, they bring in all of their supplies by barge or aircraft. because they cannot live off the land and everything gets brought in, you have mark ups for contractors and transportation. there are rotational staff, people coming and going, and there have never been any fixed costs. you can think of it as the international space station, staff coming and going, supply missions all the time, no expense spared. that is more the way

organizing the deadly attack on american warships in yemen will appear between a military trial in guantanamo bay. it's the first since president obama allowed the military commissions to resume earlier this year. >> thank you. yes, this is a significant day in guantanamo. this is the first time these military trials have resumed. president obama put a block to them when he first came into office. under opposition from congress, he is effectively being forced to withdraw that. what we will see today for the first time in nine years since his capture in the arabian gulf -- he is accused of bombing the uss cole. we have been here for the last 36 hours. the military authorities have shown us around the base during that time. >> inside america's most notorious prison, this is one of several camps at guantanamo bay housing those captured during the u.s. war on terror. we have been brought here under strict regulations. cannot show the faces. there's one camp we cannot visit. that's where the authorities keep what they described as a high value prisoners, including the suspected mastermind of the 9/11

once again, guantanamo bay $80,000.here did these come from and how have you been able to parse out the numbers? guest: we added the supermax because there is a small group of people there that would be more like the supermax than it would the dad county prison. we tried to give comparisons for those in maximum security, not necessarily solitary confinement, but on their own, to mix it all up. what we knew all along was that the commanders down there had told us to think of the guantanamo as an aircraft carrier in the sea. it is totally dependent. they create their own water, their own electricity, they bring in all of their supplies by barge or aircraft. because they cannot live off the land and everything gets brought in, you have mark ups for contractors and transportation. there are rotational staff, people coming and going, and there have never been any fixed costs. you can think of it as the international space station, staff coming and going, supply missions all the time, no expense spared. that is more the way t

guantanamo bay was built to house them. i have been down to guantanamo bay, and i can tell you this much. in the years since it was built, it does become a three- star or four-star palace. i'm being facetious, but there are treated humanely. their rights may have been violated to the extent that if you were in an american -- an american citizen, and put in that camp, your rights might be violated, but if you went through on a act of terrorism, you would be allowed to put in that camp. host: james, a democratic caller in tennessee. caller: thank you. in the last few days we have noticed that rupert murdoch has resigned from the newspaper. host: his son has resigned. caller: yes. they have accused -- of an accused of from hacking -- phone hacking. anyone who believes they're not doing damage to our country. host: i think we are off topic. bishop, an independent. you're on the air. caller: please give me a chance to finish my idea. the reason i would like that is because i have seen you identify things like denial, minimizatio

once again, guantanamo bay $80,000. where did these come from and how have you been able to parse out the numbers? guest: we added the supermax because there is a small group of people there that would be more like the supermax than it would the dad county prison. we tried to give comparisons for those in maximum security, not necessarily solitary confinement, but on their own, to mix it all up. whate knew all along was that the commanders down there had told us to think of the guantanamo as an aircraft carrier in the sea. it is totally dependent. they create their own water, their own electricity, they bring in all of their supplies by barge or aircraft. because they cannot live off the land and everything gets brought in, you have mark ups for contractors and transportation. there are rotational staff, people coming and going, and there have never been any fixed costs. you can think of it as the international space station, staff coming and going, supply missions all the time, no expense spared. that is more the way t

pay a high price to keep the doors of guantanamo bay open here's his take. well basically it comes down to the fact that where you played the clip of obama stating that you know we're going to restore habeas corpus. we're they're hypocrites where you dismissed ration has actually fought every he'd be a squirt his case that has appeared in d.c. courtroom so you know we're very good at preaching but not practicing what we're preaching so it's integrity it's credibility credibility is is the number one issue right now. and there is a lot of rhetoric there's a lot of promises that have been made certainly obama does not there all of the blame congress has voted time and again to withhold funding that would have that would have allowed some of these trials to military commissions some of the trials rather take place in what is referred to as article three federal courts here in the united states that's what i was going to say you know providing the defense department with the money to shut down guantanamo but again just getting back to you know your question inte

celebrate lock up with no rights and no questions out that's right happy ten year anniversary guantanamo bay and take a look at some of the best years behind bars and ask this question why hasn't president obama followed through with his promise to shut it down. good afternoon on this monday november fourteenth four pm in our studios here in washington d.c. i'm christine arching r t. well it has now been ten years since president george w. bush signed an executive order setting out military commissions to try terrorism suspects at guantanamo bay this was to the bush administration an easy fix a place to keep us up suspects detained as part of the quote war on terror and what too much of the rest of the world want tunnel day was a free pass a place where the u.s. could avoid playing by its own rules rules like the right to a fair trial innocent until proven guilty it is also a place where the harsh interrogation practices and torture came to light angering friends and foes alike and because of this candidate barack obama promised to make some changes listen. want to out of all bets easy close

pays to keep those doors of guantanamo bay open here's his response. well basically it comes down to the fact that where you played the clip of obama stating that you know we're going to restore he is corpus. we're were hypocrites for you this is ministration has actually fought every p.b.s. corpus case that has appeared in a d.c. courtroom so you know we're we're very good at preaching but not practicing what we're preaching so it's integrity it's credibility credibility is is the number one issue right now you know i got to bring this out because this is another argument that the administration brings up and something that i think is worth looking at president obama arguably learned a lot more once he came into office about you know just get i think back to the christmas day underwear bomber trained in yemen from what i understand there are quite a few protesters at get well from yemen and that's just one of many examples i mean is it possible that the president didn't have all the information he needed when he made these promises or do you think som

more on this new round of war crimes tribunal from guantanamo bay. what happened in the tribunal today? >> we saw the detainee come in. he looked very calm and relaxed. surprising for a man who spent nine years in conformance -- in confinement. much of that was in secret detention around the globe. he seemed very relaxed. his defense counsel seemed happy that finally these proceedings had begun. this was a preliminary hearing. it involved a lot of procedural arguments and also setting out the charges against him. he is accused of organizing the attack on the uss cole and yemen back in 2000. that killed american service people. he is facing the death penalty. the trial itself will not start for a year in it could take another two years to actually conclude. this could stretch all the way into 2014. the big issue is exactly that, the death penalty makes it much more complicated in addition to those documented cases of his torture. in addition, this is a very controversial system, the military commission system. effectively, we have no idea when this wi

well run and we have civilian oversight of what happened in guantanamo bay. my view is we are less safe if we don't have the prison. please tell me in the next 30 days, submit to this committee or me individually a plan because we're running out of time that would be reasonable, sound and has political support to confine future captors and move people out of iraq and afghanistan who are too dangerous to let go. could you do that in 30 days? >> i don't know. this decision will be made -- i will be part of the decisionmaking process but the decision will be made by people higher up. >> tell those people that we are about to withdraw from iraq and these people will be let go and we're running out of the ability to hold people in afghanistan. time is not on our side. the war is an ongoing enterprise and we needed they also i urge other senators to urge you to find a solution to this problem in 30 days. thank you for your service. >> i go back to what you started with. whatever the proposal is and the administration works its way through it will be viewed in a pra

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we aren't adding any new terrorists to guantanamo bay.ly have khalid shaikh mohammed, the admitted mastermind of 9/11, who is at guantanamo bay and others, as well. but we don't have a place to put al qaeda when we pick them up. it's either catch and release. which is a terrible idea. or we have to kill them. what we need to win this war on terror is interrogation. this is where my comment about the aclu comes . because today, the cia is no longer able to go through the interrogation that yielded such profitable information that saved american lives. that's what i' interested in. >> but you realize -- >> saving american lives and winning the war on terror. >> you say that -- >> this is say real fference. the only thing -- let me add this. >> yes. >> the only thing that we have available to us today is the army field manual. that's online. so, terrorists can go ahead and read ahead of time what will happen to them when we capture them. and it's really ostensibly, when we capture them today, it's a slap on the wrist. i want to save american

guantanamo bay remains open. he said, the president of the united states also said that we would have detainees tried in civilian as well as military court. that was a position that he's held. so they had the great idea -- they had a great idea, let's take khalid sheikh mohammed to new york city. that was a great idea. let's have $300 million in security costs while they have a trial at one of the most -- of the most notorious international criminals. obviously that one got the support that -- that it deserved. we now have, thanks to the release policy of guantanamo, 27% of the detainees of guantanamo who have been released are back in the fight trying to kill americans. only this time, they've got a red badge of courage and a degree of legitimacy because they are -- spent time in guantanamo bay. leaders of al qaeda have been released from guantanamo bay under this administration. now, they were released under the bush administration as well, to be fair, but we didn't know at that time how many of them would retu

cole" is finally facing justice at guantanamo bay. death penalty case under president obama. legal experts say some of the evidence is tainted by torture. and they say that makes this an important test case for the trial of the 9/11 suspects. the attack on the kohl off the coast of yemen killed 17 american soldiers. 11 years on some of the victims families are about to come face-to-face with the suspect for the first time. our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live at gitmo tonight. catherine? >> >> the arraignment tomorrow in the courthouse behind me, shep, will be the first time anyone outside the military or the intelligence community has seen the saudi suspect since his capture in 2002. >> i really want to see this guy get the death penalty. >> fox news first met him and his wife gloria three years ago at arlington national cemetery. >> where is he buried. >> he is buried right over there. >> their son kenneth was one of 17 sailors killed when attack the "u.s.s. cole" in 2000. the blast was so strong they buri

new details from guantanamo bay as fox reports live tonight. for a hot dog cart. mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace." so my parents went to bank of america. they met with the branch manager and they said, "look, we've got this little hot dog cart, and it's on a really good corner. let's see if we can buy the property." and the branch manager said, "all right, i will take a chance with the two of you." and we've been loyal to bank of america for the last 71 years. >> shepard: the accuse mastermind who killed 17 americans has turned the table on the feds at guantanamo bay. the suspect's lawyer today grilling the u.s. military judge at the arraignment. the defendant faces the death penalty for the attack on the "u.s.s. cole." as i mentioned, it killed 17 u.s. sailors. that happened in the year 2000 off the coast of yemen. today, some the victims' families were in the courtroom at gitmo getting their first look at the accused killer. our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge was also there. she is live at

turn of events if you mainstream media outlets of actually decided to turn their attention to guantanamo bay this week sick use prisoner on the sherry finally faces a military tribunal and a series accused of being the mastermind of the two thousand bombing of the u.s.s. cole in yemen which killed seventeen sailors and the obama administration has stated that it's working to make machineries trial more transparent than past get mobility commissions but as of right now party tell president obama has made any real efforts to change much of anything but the tensions that are tender in cuba he certainly hasn't taken any real steps to close the facility so let's take a look at get moe from a financial perspective after all it is the single most expensive prison on the planet and an air of tightening budgets you think our government would be asking if it's financially beneficial to keep these detainees abroad or the u.s. recent article by karen rosenberg of the miami herald explains why this prison puts any detention center here in the states absolutely to shame when it comes to cost so exactly wh

bush signed an executive order setting up military commissions to try terrorism suspects at guantanamo bay this was to the bush administration an easy fix a place to keep suspects detained as part of the quote war on terror but to much of the rest of the world get mo was a free pass a place where the u.s. can avoid playing by its own rules rules like the right to a fair trial innocent until proven guilty it is also a place where the harsh interrogation practices and torture came to light angering friends and foes alike and because of this candidate barack obama promised to change the law make some changes listen. well terrible betsy close down guantanamo restore habeas corpus import we're going to leave by having dogs on top of all that was storing. in a closed guantanamo and i will follow through on a legitimacy is what do see when we've got. them all that is open. represented. and that's where we're going to. refer. all right so just a few results are coming into office in january two thousand and nine the president did sign an executive order mandating the closure of guantanamo bay with

guantanamo bay -- the believe it is humanely run? >> i have been to guantanamo and as the facility is now run, i believe the men and women down there conduct themselves in an appropriate way and prisoners are treated in a humane fashion. >> is it true every detainee at guantanamo bay will have access to our courts to make a habeas petition? >> there are a number of cases in the d.c. courts. in any conviction from a military commission will be automatically appealed to our civilian court system? >> i think it is true. i am not sure. >> i think it is true. the bottom line is we all believe guantanamo bay is a humane detention facility that is well run, and we have civilian oversight over what happens in guantanamo bay. my view is we are less safe if we do not have a prison. please, tell me in the next 30 days, submit to this committee or the individually, a plan. because we are running out of time -- that would be reasonable, sound, and as political support to confine future captures and to move people out of iraq and afghanistan who a

for you know the right to mirandize terror suspects for the rights to transfer detainees from guantanamo bay on to u.s. soil and they've kind of backed down on all of it so when they even stand by their veto threat well see that's the thing is this veto threat and the one veto threat they've issued before which was on the house language on this from a. veto threats have come with the a language and with the mandatory military detention language so i don't think it has anything to do with the limitations on transfer get mo i mean they've already signed language into law that makes that the status quo it has to really do with the language that is the a you a math and that it that that that makes military detention the feed the standard the assumption here and so we'll see what happens most people i think don't believe the administration is really going to veto it i think i'm a little i think i'm a little more.

like to talk about because it's still going on ten years after president bush signed the order guantanamo bay is still home to one hundred seventy one detainees detained deprived of any normal legal protections and sort of mark the tenth anniversary of this executive order which created the military tribunals to get my retired air force colonel morris davis is speaking out about the conditions there davis was the former chief prosecutor at one time a baby resigned in two thousand and seven and he now says the u.s. has set up a law free zone at the camp speaking to a conference on human rights law in new york davis said that america was great at preaching to others but not so good at practicing what we preach there's a point when enough is enough and you have to look at yourself in the mirror torture has no place in american courts well i have to agree with him there but eventually he was seen as a symbol of us human rights abuses around the world and i didn't ridge has simply never gone away and it's ten years of existence now we reported as recently as this july and the international red cro

morris davis is speaking out about the conditions there davis was a former chief prosecutor at guantanamo bay he resigned in two thousand and seven and he now says the u.s. has set up a law free zone at the camp speaking to a conference on human rights law in new york davis said that america was great at preaching to others but not so good at practicing what we preach there's a point when enough is enough and you have to look at yourself in the mirror torture has no place in american courts well i have to agree with him there and the center of it so he is seen as a symbol of us human rights abuses around the world and that image has simply never gone away in its ten years of existence now we reported as recently as this july and the international red cross had concerns about waterboarding sleep deprivation beatings and indefinite detention still going on at the facility one office the bush administration refused to discuss the reports of abuse because of national security issues but then when he was running for office back in two thousand and eight then senator obama promised to shut down the

i embrace trying to find a new confinement facility than guantanamo bay. john mccain did when he ran for president. senator obama, president bush but i have come to conclude and may not be the best vote counter in the world but we are not going to close gitmo anytime soon. in september this year you were in brussels and you stated to the european parliament we have any election coming up in 2012 and we will be pressing for the closure of this facility between now and then. after the election we will try to close it as well. am i wrong in assuming there is not the folks here to close gitmo before november of 2012? >> you certainly count votes better than i can in this body and the house as well. you having served their. but it is administration policy to close guantanamo. we think it would be an appropriate thing to do for a variety of reasons. we have run into opposition. >> if i may just interrupt i understand where you're coming from and i embrace the idea of finding a new confinement facility but certain legal changes had to occur for that to be viable

al-nashiri is the first guantanamo bay prisoner to be charged with war crimes that could carry a death sentence since president obama took office. >>> reverend al sharpton takes on the bible. we will tell you about that later in the grapevine. first, trying to make sense of tuesday election results. >> bret: lacking at the election result, from ohio, the message from there was positively mixed. the results from ohio two big ballot issues reaffirm the reputation as unpredictable swing state. on the one hand, ohioans dealt blow to president obama signature achievement, the affordable care act. two-third voted for issue three, which bars the state residents being forced to purchase health insurance against their will. >> what it means that ohio will be the strongest position in the nation to protect their healthcare freedom, their right to choose. the patient-doctor relationship. to stand up not only to obama care but the state and local government. >> 61% of voters rejected issue two. which limited the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions. >> the messages when middle clas

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an american citizen accused of a crime could be taken to guantanamo bay. these terms are dangerously vague. more than a decade after 9/11 the military has been unable toy define the earmarks of membership in or affiliation too either al-qaeda or other terrorist organizations. it's an accusation, and sometimes difficult to prove. some say that to prevent another 9/11 attack we must fight terrorism with a war mentality and not treat potential attackers as criminals for combatants captured on the battlefield, i agree. but but these are people captured or detained in america, american citizens. 9/11 didn't succeed because we granted terrorists due process. inau fact, 9/11 did not succeed because al-qaeda was soda formidable, but because of humau error. the defense department withheldd intelligence from the fbi. no warrants were denied, the warrants weren't even requested. the fbi failed to act on repeated leads from its field agents who were in possession oe a laptop that may well have hadl information that might have prevented 9/11. but no judge ever turned d

everybody held as an enemy combatant here, at guantanamo bay, captured in the united states goes before a federal judge, and the government has to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the person is in fact an enemy combatant. there is due process. we just don't hold someone and say good luck, you have to go before a judge, a federal court, and prove your case as the government. and here's the question for the country: is it okay to hold an american citizen who is suspected of helping al qaeda under military control? you better believe it's okay. now, my good friend from colorado said this appeals the posse come cat tuesday act. , the posse comita t*us is a prohibition on our military and goes back to reconstruction. this is the central difference between us. i don't believe fighting al qaeda is a law enforcement function. i believe our military should be deeply involved in fighting these guys at home and abroad. and the idea somehow allowing our military to hold someone captured in the united states is a repeal of posse comitatus act, you'd have to conclude that you view that i

guantanamo bay -- the believe it is humanely run? >> i have been to guantanamo and as the facility is now run, i believe the men and women down there conduct themselves in an appropriate way and prisoners are treated in a humane fashion. >> is it true every detainee at guantanamo bay will have access to our courts to make a habeas petition? >> there are a number of cases in the d.c. courts. in any conviction from a military commission will be automatically appealed to our civilian court system? >> i think it is true. i am not sure. >> i think it is true. the bottom line is we all believe guantanamo bay is a humane detention facility that is well run, and we have civilian oversight over what happens in guantanamo bay. my view is we are less safe if we do not have a prison. please, tell me in the next 30 days, submit to this committee or the individually, a plan. because we are running out of time -- that would be reasonable, sound, and as political support to confine future captures and to move people out of iraq and afghanistan who a

everybody held as an enemy combatant here, at guantanamo bay, captured in the united states goes before a federal judge, and the government has to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the person is in fact an enemy combatant. there is due process. we just don't hold someone and say good luck, you have to go before a judge, a federal court, and prove your case as the government. and here's the question for the country: is it okay to hold an american citizen who is suspected of helping al qaeda under military control? you better believe it's okay. now, my good friend from colorado said this appeals the posse come cat tuesday act. , the posse comita t*us is a prohibition on our military and goes back to reconstruction. this is the central difference between us. i don't believe fighting al qaeda is a law enforcement function. i believe our military should be deeply involved in fighting these guys at home and abroad. and the idea somehow allowing our military to hold someone captured in the united states is a repeal of posse comitatus act, you'd have to conclude that you view that i

that is how things work. >> you know that at guantanamo bay, citizens are detained at guantanamo bay. >> ok, you can stay here, because in a better two minutes? >> well, i would like to pose my question to tony. my question basically is this. the logic about bringing people to justice, can you conceive of any war where in all instances you would be able to go and arrest without putting undue risk to the seal team or any other team, an obligation to bring somebody back, that you can never use deadly force against even a person like bin laden, under even your own logic about the scope of authorization. we cannot use deadly force against him? not as a matter rules of engagement and whether he was surrendering, but you basically said we should have gotten them. did i get it wrong? >> no, you're correct. i think your column is now giving draft dodgers and new excuse. if use this to an individual being a will to resist, if you're able to do that, apparently you're going to put yourself in danger. so from here on, you feel that you might be put in nature walk going after back as to resist, y

. >> bill: the obama reversal on guantanamo bay. a lot of information for the american left.r dennis miller. go. >> i heard you may be saying that holder should step down. billy, when you define the perimeter line at the bottom of the barrel as holder does, it's not that easy to step down. holder is in more over his head than a gay dwarf hitting on shack at this point. he is not going anywhere. i think he was a political favor. listen, i think it got ugly coming out of the south carolina primary between clinton and obama because they hinted the race card on clinton he hated that in a make good gesture since holder was the front man on othe mark rich pardon which looks really ugly. got to keep him on the reservation. got to keep him quiet. he goes to obama and says do me a favor and give holder a job. like that nephew getting hired in casino. doesn't know how to run the floor but can't get fired because his dad is on the licensing committee. he is not going to get whacked. he knows where too many bodies are buried. >> you love -- didn't you? >> he might fall on his own sword i

cole was arraigned yesterday before a military tribunal in guantanamo bay. abdel did not enter a plea. 17 sailors died in the october 2007 bombing. the tribunal set a trial date of november 2012. >>> the cartoonist who created family circus has died. bill keane was 89 years old, suffering from congestive heart failure. he started drawing the popular strip back in 1960. in recent years, one of his sons has taken over the drawing duties. >>> we're awaiting damage reports from alaska as one of the most powerful storms to hit there in decades starts to move out this morning. the system is dumping snow inland and could send an eight- foot surge of water into coastal communities. some people have evacuated to higher ground. >>> not too shabby around here weatherwise recently. things will take a little bit of a turn for the worst. we have a little to endure. but the nice weekend a right around the corner. howard has the scoop at 5:15. >> a major local university considers eliminating entire sports programs to save money. >>> at 5:57, today is the final day of the d