and the black guns were rifled guns. and the rifled guns had a better range and fired better. but a gun like this was a good anti-personnel weapon. there were types of ammunition you could use. plus at times you could put chains and fire it at an enemy. the chains could mow down a number of men. this type of gun became a good anti-personnel weapon. with this platform you can take a look at the fort without walking on the walls. as we get up here, you can see the ditch and the embrasures as they come out of the fort. also, on the inside of the ditch, that is called a scarf. on the outside that is called the counter scarf. at the top they have those bushes running. that is to keep people from walking in the moat. and trying to walk up the parapet. but the bushes are like abatee, which are pointed stakes they would have outside a lot of forts. it has to purposes -- to keep purposes, to keep the people out and give them an idea atee look like. and these platforms they built, you can walk into the moat and you are not actually walking on it and helping to destroy it. if you attack,

require background checks for all gun sales and keep guns out of that hands of users. i am grateful for the opportunity to share my sisters are with you today. she was a loving mom, a terrific sister for nearly two years now how my family has lived a nightmare. every. mother's day is now a day to survive rather than celebrate because we know that see is not here to watch over girls. she won't be here to take pictures of her youngest daughter dressed up from or congratulate her daughter's on their wedding day. those moments will be happy and sad at the same time. and i am committed to honor memory by working to reduce the number of women who are killed by preventable and senseless gun violence. you have the power to pass the laws that we need to keep our sisters and mothers and daughters safe. and so i am here today to ask you to remember. when you think about taking action on this issue. thank you for your time and the opportunity to let me speak today. i'd be happy to answer any questions. thank you. >> thank you, mr. daniel. you have very well and very powerfully rep

gun ownership rate about a third drop in gun ownership when they had the buy-back but gun ownership right now in australia is pretty much back to where it was before the buy-back. so put that aside because obviously that impacts how one will talk about it. but the thing is, you just can't pick one data point. i can pick one state to go and look at, different states have had different laws. i can look at new zealand for example. new zealand, neighboring australia, an isolated island nation again, if you look at new zealand, mass shooting rate prior to -- over the same period of time people talk about for australia, 1980 to '96, they had .005 incidents per 100,000 people. that was actually higher than australia's, which was .0042. after that, both countries have had zero mass shootings. well, australia may have changed its laws but new zealand didn't. again, it's what we call cherry-picking. it's like i can go and flip a coin 20 times, get 10 heads and 10 tails. would i let somebody go and say i will pick five tails from that sample and say, it's obviously a bias point because all five are

gun ownership rate about a third drop in gun ownership when they had the buy-back but gun ownership rightnow in australia is pretty much back to where it was before the buy-back. so put that aside because obviously that impacts how one will talk about it. but the thing is, you just can't pick one data point. i can pick one state to go and look at, different states have had different laws. lookant to go and try to at things systematically. i can look at new zealand for example. new zealand, neighboring australia, an isolated island nation again. if you look at new zealand, mass shooting rate prior to -- over the same period of time people talk about for australia, 1980 to '96, they had .005 incidents per 100,000 people. that was actually higher than australia's, which was .0042. after that, both countries have had zero mass shootings. well, australia may have changed its laws but new zealand didn't. again, it's what we call cherry-picking. it's like i can go and flip a coin 20 times, get 10 heads and 10 tails. would i let somebody go and say i will pick five tails from that sample and say,

the gun ownership rate's at about a third, drop in gun ownership when they had the buyback, but gun ownership right now in australia is pretty much back to where it was. so put that aside because, obviously, that impacts how one's going to talk about this. but the thing is you just can't pick one data point. i could pick one state to go and look at. you want to go and try to look systematically. i could look at new zealand, for example. new zealand, neighboring australia, an isolated island nation again. if you look at new zealand's mass shooting rate prior to over the same period of time the that people talk about for australia, 1980-'96, they had .005 incidents per 100,000 people. that was actually higher than australia's which was .0042. after that both countries have had zero mass shootings. well, australia may have changed its laws, but new zealand didn't. again, you just -- it's what we call cherry picking. it's kind of like i could go and flip a coin 20 times, get 10 heads and 10 tails. would i met somebody jutte go and say, well, i'm going to pick five from that example, okay? you don

they had no need for guns on the frontier but there were also gun laws. they said you couldn't have a loaded gun in the home. it's outside of the context of the militia issue there were guns into there were gun rights and governed by the common law is what the defenders think and they were putting in the constitution why did they put it in the constitution or the evidence suggests because i came into this not knowing that i thought i would find all of the evidence leans heavily on the idea they were looking for a check on the power pennsylvania was the one state i didn't have a militia. a pennsylvanithe pennsylvania ts split between philadelphia with its cosmopolitan elite and the rest of the states and they thought a lot about whether they were allowed to have a militia or not and part of the answer is the state constitutions that you can have weapons if you want them for your software to protect the state, but it wasn't part of a militia and i noted in the book that barack obama was not the first urban politician to complain about rural pennsylvania com

the solution to gun violence is more guns. they're guns are going to be taken away.none of that is true. we are an organization that supports the second amendment's and many of our moms are gun owners. loopholessome serious in this country and policies that need to be fixed. they would prevent gun violence. 86 americans are shot and killed everyday. many of those are preventable and that is what we are working to do. she wrote about it. guest: i think that is an outrageous thing to say and is insulting to survivors and their families. i am not an operative. i was not involved in politics in my entire life. i take no salary for this work. becomingof the victims lobbyists, who has more of a stake in this issue than someone who has been affected by it? they need to rise up and they have bravely and said not one more. i won't allow it to happen to other families and i know it is preventable. i will do everything i can to address this problem. i think that his heroic. think the best way to say it is that she lost her daughter. she knows better than anybody else the situat

our gun rights are threatened. the rights of legitimate gun owners are under threat. what we have got odo is find a way to reduce both firearm injuries and deaths and protect the rights of legitimate gun owners. if we probably only wanted to do one of those things, you wouldn't need research. don't allow any discussion let alone any discussion about firemafirearm injuries and deat. if all you wanted to do was prevent firearm injuries and deaths then take guns away from civilians. the problem is we want to solve both problems at the same time, and there are ways to do it. but if you want to figure out what works to achieve both of these goals at the same time, you need to do research to find out the answer. and rye anonymity, we don't know -- right now, we don't know what works. we don't know that letting more people carry concealed weapons in public will save lives and security, we don't know if that will protect legitimate gun owners. we're asking politicians to sign bills when they don't know what the impact of those bills would be. it's not fair of us to ask them t

and how best to ensure that those who should not possess guns do not possess guns. i understand there are a number of domestic violence survivors and advocates here with us today. i would be honored to recognize them right now if they wouldn't mind standing up. [ applause ] >> thank you. i would also like to submit the statements of our chairman, senator patrick leahy, of christie salters martin, bonnie campbell, laura ponce, katie ray jones, every town for gun safety and the national center for victims of crime into the record. without objection they will be added to the record. thank you all for your support of this effort and your courage. i would like to thank all the witnesses for participating in the hearing and turn the microphone to my distinguished member senator grassley. >> bonnie campbell is a former attorney general of the state of iowa. mr. chairman, we're here to discuss an important subject. thanks to our experts who agreed to be panelists for us. all of us want to see the federal government take appropriate action to assist in fighting domestic viol

but you can't glamorize the gun. the gun will never be a glamorous thing. it's just an object. >> reporter: hoover has been in law enforcement for three decades. he worries that when shots ring out, more guns equals more confusion for police. >> i don't know which one's the bad guy and which one's the good guy. i know i'm going to engage the one that's closest to me. and i hope to god that's the bad guy. you never know. >> reporter: people in colorado, for example, like aurora families, like columbine families who think this is a normalization of guns in america, which has this violent undertone to it. >> what's violent about it? what's violent about law-abiding citizens carrying a gun? >> reporter: a lot of people don't want to be around firea s firearms. don't want their families around it. this is not necessarily normal everywhere. >> i think it should be normal everywhere. i think it should be a common sight. i think we'll have a lot less violence if it was. >> reporter: lauren insists her employees and her customers are safe. >> i'm more worried about

lack of gun loopholes that allow people to buy guns without a bru background check.hink if there was an effort to strengthen gun laws. >> i'll yield to my friend here because there are 500 gun places in houston, texas, and they have a dramatically lower crime rate. but do you want to comment for a second on this whole confusion? >> i think the point is we're not prosecuting the people that are violating the laws. >> yes. >> it's illegal to carry a gun across the state lines in chicago into illinois. that's illegal. >> it is. >> so how do you enforce that? do you enforce that by taking away somebody's right in indiana to own a gun or do you enforce it by prosecuting the very people that break the law? >> you do it by doing both. i don't think anybody would argue that you would do one over the other. you have to prevent criminals, gun traffickers from getting guns in indiana and in cook county. right now you can get for a gun dealer you don't have to have any license in illinois. you need a license to have a nail salon but not to be a gun dealer. >> but the federal law

guns. i understand that there are a number of domestic violence survivors and advocates here with us today. i would be honored to recognize them right now if they wouldn't mind standing up. [applause] >> thank you. i would also like to submit the statements of our chairman senator patrick leahy of christie salters martin bonnie campbell laura palms katie ray jones, every town for gun safety and the national center for victims of crime into the reco record. without objection they will be added to the record. thank you all for your support of this effort and for your courage. i would like to welcome all of our witnesses and thank them for parts of baiting the hearing and turn the microphone to my distinguished ranking member senator grassley. >> bonnie campbell you just mentioned is a former attorney general of the state of iowa. mr. chairman we are here to discuss it important subject. thanks for experts who have agreed to the palace for us. all of us want to see the federal government take

the gun was test fired into a tub of water.ts go through the barrel, the lands and grooves which make the bullet spin leave marks on the outside of the bullet. >> they will design the barrel to have a certain direction of twists, a certain number of lands and grooves, a certain measurement for those lands and grooves, so those are intentionally put in by the manufacturer. >> surprisingly, when the bullets from cliff's gun were compared to the guns from cliff's autopsy, they did not match. investigators checked all of the local pawn shops and discovered that the cowan brothers had pawned some of alma merck's jewelry. with a search warrant, police found several other items belonging to the mercks in the cowans' possession. >> he had a wallet, he had two social security checks which he was trying to sell. he had all types of jewelry. >> but investigators did not find a .25-caliber pistol like the one used in the murder. investigators then compared the cowans' fingerprints and those of the drug dealer with the fingers found inside

gun ownership rate about a third drop in gun ownership when they had the buy-back but gun ownership right now in australia is pretty much back to where it was before the buy-back. so put that aside because obviously that impacts how one will talk about it. but the thing is, you just can't pick one data point. i can pick one state to go and look at, different states have had different laws. i can look at new zealand for example. new zealand, neighboring australia, an isolated island nation again if you look at new zealand, mass shooting rate prior to -- over the same period of time people talk about for australia, 1980 to '96, they had .005 incidents per 100,000 people. that was actually higher than australia's, which was .0042. after that, both countries have had zero mass shootings. well australia may have changed its laws but new zealand didn't. again, it's what we call cherry-picking. it's like i can go and flip a coin 20 times, get 10 heads and 10 tails. would i let somebody go and say i will pick five tails from that sample and say it's obviously a bias point because all five are hea

♪ >> guns, you like guns? >> guns? i like guns. i'm a gun fan.ot everything from an 1858 patriot cannon to just got a cannon. a war cannon. >> you got a cannon? >> um-hmm. yup. >> shoot pickle jars with gunpowder out of it actuall actn the fourth of july. it's a lot of fun. >> supposed to give away free steaks. i'll come join this church. i brought a gun with me tonight. i know that's very controversi controversial. >> chuck mcallister getting men through the church doors not only with the promise of eternal life but with the promise avenue free steak an chance to winfrey gun. >> i never really heard of church giving out guns to get guys to sit in the pews. >> man, you've been out of touch. we've been doing this 20 years. >> pa duka, kentucky. >> you know what happened in pa duka. >>> i heard about that. >> three west pa duka teens gunned down by their classmate in 1997 as the morning bell rang. >> i was on my way to my first class. that's when michael pulled the 22 out of his backpack and started shooting at us and the very first thing i saw was

are you a gun owner yourself? caller: no, i've never needed a gun.he last time i might have i was a pizza hut manager and gun was drawn on me. even if i had had one, i would not have had time to pull it. he just pointed it in my chest, you know? it is about where the gun comes from first, you know. if you are being carjacked or robbed, what can you do? i hear a lot of people use this excuse -- if they had had a gun they could have defended themselves -- maybe, maybe not. if you look at most of the cases with these mass shootings, these guns were used by people who legally have the right to have them, not by criminals. criminals do not gestured up the shoot a whole bunch of people. they are trying to do things discreet. whether they are legal or not, gun violence will exist. host: we have a special line for georgia residents as we talk about this law. house bill 60, sometimes known as the gun everywhere law. jim patterson writes -- waitinganley has been in westborough, massachusetts. good morning. caller: yes. thank you for this program. or three days

states that have fewer gun restrictions have higher gun death rates.t's not rocket science to figure out that more guns means more gun deaths. but is there any voice on the other side in georgia? it does seem like the state is essentially opening the doors because it's also a stand your ground state, right? >> right. well, the problem is the voices that we should be hearing, they should be coming from congressional candidates. they should be coming from gubernatorial candidates. but it's the silly season. they're all concerned about getting elected. they're all concerned about swing voters. they're all concerned about the gun lobby in this particular state. so regular people's legitimate day-to-day concerns are being ignored in favor of what seems to be politically expedient right now. this is one thing that i think is really important to think about consequences lek trorlly and for regular people's lives. one of the stipulations is you can come within 150 feet of a voting place as long as you tell one of the voting monitors you happen to have a gun wi

i'm a strong advocate of the nra and gun owner. i also believe in sensible gun laws. i empty here today to speak for my sister, zina. to speak for zina and my entire family because she's not here to speak for herself. zina loved life. all she wanted to do is be a good mother to her two daughters. she loved disney world, rick springfield and helping other people. matter of fact, her last moments, she was begging her estranged husband, please, leave this place, these people alone. she was beautiful, full of goodness. and some goodwi will come out o her death. >> on october 21st, 2012, i received a phone call nobody should receive. i was told my sister had been shot and killed. by her estranged husband. we later learned that he had bought the gun through armslist.com, an irresponsible internet site that does not require background checks. it has been nearly two years since zina was murdered and it is heartbreaking to know that our weak gun laws continue to allow dangerous abusers to buy guns without a background check. zina was married for 13 years and eventually left he

, gun! >> gave a quick glance over to trooper harker as he was moving around and preparing to return fire. >> and that's when i put fire on him from the front of the vehicle. >> the passenger runs and deputy gates takes off after him. >> i started to chase after the passenger, but i didn't run full bore yet because i didn't know trooper harker's condition. >> freeze! >> the driver jumps in the truck and speeds off with harker still hanging on. >> after taking about three or four step after i got disengaged from the vehicle, i did fire a round to flatten a tire to impede his escape. >> meanwhile, the passenger has run off in the direction of this nearby condominium complex. back at the scene, trooper harker radios for backup. >> 587, wilmington. get me some units out here. the subject in the suburban has fled the scene. i have another subject out on foot. shots have been fired. >> the dispatch goes out, and another wilmington police dash cam shows an officer heading into an office park where

between high gun ownership and gun crime. and mass shootings is the third one and they have not increased. you have seen more coverage of them but they have not increased. there was a study of four years of mass shooting, four or more people killed in a pub alling space, and it estimates to about 34 people a year. it is not increasing. it is >> let's take knowss on this. we have one. peter down here. >> hi, i am from texas. and you were talking about second amendment rights and all of that. my dad and i go shooting almost every other weekend together. >> at a range or outside? >> we have a friend who lives outside of city property and we go shoot clay and they have a rifle range. >> fun. >> there is a gun act that came up that is set to ban semi-automatic weapon which is as type of rifle i have been shooting since i was four. and i was just wondering your thoughts on the issue and whether that is actually something that could be passed in the coming years. >> no, of course there is a lot of language and semi-automatic and i w

gun owners could and did display guns outside. they tell "america tonight"s lori jane gliha, the judge's ruling and their public demonstration was a long time coming. >> this is a glock 26. i should verify it's unloaded. >> reporter: george is a gun opener in the nation's capital and a plaintiff in a lawsuit pushing for the right to carry a handgun in public. >> you would walk out of the house with your two guns, when and if it was allowed. >> probably one of them. >> your main reason for carrying or wanting a gun? >> personal application, and to vined kate my -- vined kate my second amendment rights. >> over the weekend a judge ruled in his fave, lifting a ban, and allowing registered gun owners like these people to carry handguns outside their homes in public, without fear of being arrested. lions says it's a right he enjoyed. one he should have enjoyed long ago. >> i was happy to have and exercise my constitutional right. carrying a handgun is not an inherently evil thing. if it was, police carrying guns would be evil. it's not

they had masks and i see the gun and that was it.nd laid down. >> the gunman reaches over the counter and shoots at both men, hitting one clerk in his leg. >> when i hear the shots, that's when i really got scared. i thought, well, you know, this is it. >> as the other clerk shields himself with the counter, a second man jumps through the glass partition and starts digging for cash. a surveillance camera shows the gunman forcing cowboy to stay on the floor. he's scared for his life. >> what was going through my mind, hope they don't come around and shoot me. nothing i could do, they had me on the floor. so -- >> while one of the men is searching for cash, one of the clerks grabs a handgun hidden under the counter. the surveillance footage shows him exchanging shots with the gunman. seemingly unaware that the clerk is armed, the second man keeps digging behind the counter. the clerk seizes the opportunity and fires two shots at the thief, striking him once in each arm. stunned, the masked man scurries out the door. >> the video was cr

nearly 60% disapprove of the gun law. since schools and churches have to opt in to the expansive new law. he says the church will not be opting in. >> i just want to make sure that our folks know, except for those who are the legitimate protectors of public safety, guns are not welcome in catholic churches, we don't think that people come to church anticipating violence or to be subject to a violent atmosphere. >> thanks to the open carry movement, nationwide retailers are finding out they need to opt out of nationwide carry laws, asking people not to bring guns to their stores. target ceo said bringing firearms to target creates an environment that is at odds with the family friendly shopping we strive to create. >> i'm curious how that story, we showed a lot of local news from georgia, i think from atlanta. if the guns everywhere law is getting local coverage in a kind of skeptical way. >> it is a pretty skeptical way, i saw one poll that said 70% of georgians don't agree with this law. some 5,000 georgians have a right

he told them he had guns in his car, guns that are illegal in mexico. only on the record obtaining these receipts, they are proof the sergeant legally owned and purchased these guns in the united states. and now the u.s. marine is languishing in a mexican prison weapons possession. but he is not charged with weapons smuggling. >> he is being formally accused for possession and not for weapons smuggling which is a completely different charge. >> mexico doesn't think he was smuggling. that's a big deal. smuggling means you want to bring the guns in to sell them. but possession could be a mistake heath not a criminal. he made a mistake. >> the sergeant first put behind bars at la mesa penitentiary. >> he left over a huge wall, scaled over a wall and obviously activated the security protocol. he was placed in a special cell, it's my understanding the then he hurt himself. >> he deliberately hurt himself. >> yes. >> he didn't hurt himself in the jumping. >> yes, apparently with a light bull. >> be they chained him as a result of that? >> well, he was chained

printed gun. will hear from them later on what's three d. printing it's the conversion of bits into atoms it's taking virtual objects things that you like having a video game or a virtual environment and being able to produce those. in atoms real physical materials who started this all started early stages of back on one nine hundred seventy s. but it really got kicked off in the eighty's in large part to the founder of stratus john's company some seminal patent work in that field and it's been growing it's been being used in industry for a long time and now it's becoming personal. i don't do the same guys who a company called greta they came to my house scanned me pictures it created this what is this that is you printed the printed version of larry king it is the process they went through as they scan do earn you into a three dimensional virtual i don't know i'm a walking room took a three about ten minutes very quick three d. scanning and then they took that virtual model those bits those pixels and they printed it layer by layer to creat

>> but he still refuses to give up. >> put the gun down! >> no! >> put the gun down, russ! don't do this! >> put the gun down, man. it's over. put the gun down. >> russell had a reputation for being a tough guy, physical person, very strong person. i'm not too sure he realized what it would feel like to get shot. >> a half hour passes. slowly sublet's attitude begins to soften. especially after negotiators make a simple gesture. >> did you get the water? >> yeah. appreciate that. >> sublet opens up to one of the negotiators. bowling green police officer michael delaney. >> captain delaney knew russell sublet prior to this incident. he knew him. they played sports together. >> i need to rest, delaney. i've been in pain for so long. i just can't take it no more. the pain that they've done to me, shooting me, ain't near as bad as what is going on inside my head. my mind. right now. it ain't -- you know what i'm saying? >> think about the future and getting past all this, putting it behind you. you're strong. you can do this. >> delaney's words seem to reach sublet. after a 4 1

how was it to shoot a gun now that guns have a different meaning for you?>> not really. >> that is unusual. >> one of the interesting things is turnover oh surgeon told me that if there is any other positive thing about her injury it is that she will not suffer from post-traumatic stress. and shot in first the head. what do remember from that day? >> the toyota. >> she rembers where she parked. >> if i were to drive to target right now and park my car and come out 30 minutes later, i may not remember where my car is. a year later when we went to safeway, a year to the day, gabby remembered where she parked after all that had happened. and she remembered one of her staff members. that is it. >> that is it. no noise. nothing else. that is lucky. now you are in a unique decision. polarized -- very what do you think is critical in bringing together those two sides? >> there is not one reason why we have the rates of gun violence that we do in this country. it is pretty complex. one of the things we need to do first is balance out the politics on the issue. buil

successful keeping guns out. >> the guns are coming up the east coast.all. >> precisely. if virginia, the two carolinas, georgia and texas would pass laws regulating who could get guns we would see illegal gun violence go way down. we don't need to reach a ban. we can tell from lots of state experiments, if the states will do it and to circle around that's why we need federal action. we need congress to pass national regulation about who can get a gun under what condition -- >> you're saying a ban on handguns isn't necessary but tougher tougher regulations are. >> absolutely, yes. >> and if a state that passes it has states around it that have looser laws it doesn't endo any good? >> it is a problem for that state, new york, new jersey, massachusetts, connecticut proved that point. what's interesting is new york for instance prevent people from getting guns illegally from out of of state. we need national legislation so we have one set of uniform rules across the country. >> any chance of that? >> zero. >> not a chains chance? >> not right now. >> what h

gangs carrying guns.is not a part of gun control. >> and new york has some of the most strict gun control laws. >> as does chicago. and the commissioner, credited with the miracle in new york of decreasing gun violence by 80%. and mayor diblasio has brought him back. >> very interesting. kim, let's take chicago. it's had periodic bursts of murder sprees over the last couple of years. what accounts for the last one? >> well, it's similar to mark. but crime spiking in very specific neighborhoods in chicago, with a lot of unemployment and poverty. there's been a lot of discussion about cuts to police budgets. and both of the cities are examples where the gun laws are so strict, the only people with guns, they're the bad guys. so, it's not a case of that. >> and how will this play in the upcoming elections? michael bloomberg saying he's going the spend millions against politicians that oppose gun control in the upcoming elections. >> he's going to need that much money. even after the shootings in newtown, whe

there's guns. we know 75% of them are tosold, gun purchases, drugs in, guns in, jobs out. lost 95,000 jobs to nafta. we need a massive infusion of jobs and job training. we've lost about 80,000 vacant homes and abandon lots. put these young people back to work. once out of town unemployment 40%, suburbs jobs, on three chicagos, 35% unemployment, 40% unemployment. we need to balance the equation. >> and reverend, as you saw here in reporting this tonight, one of the things we were looking at is the contrast with some of where washington's political focus has been and this kind of pain and this kind of problem in our cities. why do you think this doesn't get more attention and response from the political class? >> wut xz there has blg awell t been no plan. we closed 50 schools, 72 grocery stores, 50 drug stores. it's a food desert, health desert, a school desert, unemployment crisis and therefore that needs to be some plan for reconstruction. when i look at all the abandoned homes and vacant lots, if those youths had the skilts to retrofit houses and build them and track job

he told them he had guns in his car. guns that were illegal in mexico. only on the record obtaining these receipts, they are proof he legally owned and purchased these guns in the united states and thousand the u.s. marine is languishing in a mexican prison on weapons possession but he is not charmiged for weapons smuggling. >> mexico doesn't think he was smuggling and that's a big deal. smuggling means you want owe bring the guns in to sell them. but possession could be a mistake. >> so sergeant tahmooress first put behind bar at the state penitentiary. >> he leapt over a huge wall, scaled over a wall and obviously active vaivated the security pr pro k oe kol. he dlibately hurt himself. apparently with a light bulb. >> and they chained him as a result of that. >> well, he was chained but my understanding is that he had some sort of bandages so he wouldn't be hurt. there their concern was that he might hurt himself or he might hurt someone else. >> la mesa prison turned him to where he is being held in. one of the more modern prisons here in mexico where

, the doctor having a second gun to the suspect's gun but staffers tackled the suspect already injured and still fleeing, they are being credited with saving other lives possibly and the s.w.a.t. was still called in to make sure there wasn't a second gunm >>> we are breaking news on a shooting at mercy fitzgerald hospital. dann cuellar is outside of the hop and he spoke with hospital workers that witnessed the chaos throughout the afternoon. >> reporter: hey good afternoon to you and monica. the mercy fitzgerald wellness center remains evacuated. all appointments for the rest of the day are cab selled and there is no word on when it will be reopened to the public. there were roughly 100 people inside of the wellness center across the street from the hospital. there were about 100 people in there. it was chaotic after the shooting with officers telling everybody to get out. >> when we were in there, i'm getting at the desk and all of a sudden the cops came in with the guns drawn and they asked us all to get out and leave. they sent us through the back door, you hear that three people go

show me where the guns are. so we walk around the back of the truck and i point to the door, i said i have two guns in here and one in the front seat. i point them out. he sees the guns, he puts them back inside the truck, just the two in the rear. and he tells me that he's going to get an escort vehicle for me to take me back to the american border. i'm like, okay. that will be good, thank you. and then they -- the mexican police officer border police officer then drives my truck to a different parking area. and i walk to my truck and then they take all amy guns out and put them on the tailgate of my truck with all the ammunition i pointed out and put them in the back of my truck and they get on a walkie talky and tell the word up to their higher. and an officer, a military officer comes with two bars on -- two silver bars on the collar. he comes and he took charge from there and didn't really seem the care about the story at all but just found me as guilty from the beginning of a crime. they didn't have a tran

he didn't have guns. it was everything he owned was in his truck all of his clothes, everything. >> there was a staff sergeant when hid a secondary ied. sergeant tahmooressi we were the first ones on the scene with our navy core men. to be honest with you, i can't describe to you enough watching sergeant tahmooressi. we were running low on turn cuts. he reached in and used his own turn kit to save his life. we were about to lose this guy. he is just a selfless, and words can't describe what he means to me and what he maz done for this con try. -- country. >> watching your friend get blown up in combat and not being able to run to their aid. it is the hardest thing i have had to do. he has large issues with brain trauma. there was an incident where vehicles were moving and he sustained a second head trauma. his mental health, you know, post traumatic stress is a very common situation with combat vets. >> with the ptsd he already has right now from war, he took 10 steps forward when he came to san diego. he

there was a shop called shucks gun shop, 15 minutes outside the city, and they find 20% of the guns used in crimes are coming from. that tells you a lot. just like there's a massive different patchwork of gun laws around the country, the problem is at a federal level. if you have loose gun laws right across the border in indiana, they are going to find their way into chicago. >> "america tonight"s christoph putt zel. >>> and joining me is reverend and his nephew is gunned down while he was on the street. i'm heart broken for your loss. can you tell me why two days after your loss you are willing to talk about this. >> the reason why, even though my heart is breaking and we are sad and grieving at the loss of my nephew, the reason we chose to do the interview is we think it's important that we share our story and shed light on who shekure was as a person and it led him to be a faceless victim of the gun violence of chicago. >> he was not a kid in trouble. >> no, he was not. he had completed almost three years of college and expressed a desire to go back to school two weeks ago and worked

, guns schools, and libraries.nd of course you will want to use a silencer. best of all you can pack heat in certain parts of the airport which will final allow you to defend that one seat near the outlet. >> we're joking about it, but it's serious stuff. so you called bar owners across the state. what are they telling you? >> i went into bars across the state, and they are concerned. they are worried. the bar owners i spoke with we don't think guns and alcohol are a good mix. many of these bar owners own guns themself and even carry guns themself to tamp things down just in case. they don't want the responsibility of either saying you cannot bring guns into my bar by placing a sign, or even having the responsibility of removing somebody who has a gun. it's their legal right to ask somebody to leave, but i talked to bar owners i don't want to ask a drunk guy with a gun to leave. they feel like it puts them in a difficult position. they have the legal right to keep guns out but they also have the responsibility to s