hagel: we underestimated the situation. have paralyzed our strategy in many ways in syria because we are captive to the assad must go. we cannot move without that being addressed first. i'm not sure that needs to be addressed first. the first thing that needs to be addressed is to build a platform of stability including the iranians, the russians, the states and the united to bring stability to that region so you can start, hopefully, resolving and solving what is going on. we have never seen anything like this in the middle east. you have countries with no government. it is getting deeper. katty: it is reflected on the campaign trail in the united states. you are a former republican senator. some of your colleagues on the campaign trail have talked about the threat of islamic states in terms of carpet bombing the middle east, taking the oil. what do you think of the republican candidates' solutions for what is happening with the islamic state? firstagel: let's take the solution offered by one of the republican candidate. -

i have former defense secretary chuck hagel. he'll be here. rachel maddow will preview tonight's msnbc town hall in flint, michigan, and in just a minute, we're going to talk to two republican leaders who have something in common. they know precisely who they do not want to be their party's presidential nominee, so they're traipsing around the state, talking about candidates they won't vote for. two different guests with two different candidates that they're rooting against. but first, let me get to tonight's take. and that's how iowa's story will be told. it will be told by turnout. and yes, we've heard turnout, turnout, turnout. but in iowa, it really matters. i'll make the case tonight that every single poll number we've had out of iowa over the last two weeks is correct. what we don't know, though, is the turnout assumptions behind their models, and that's why you get the differentiation. for instance, let me take you to new numbers we've got out tonight. fresh ones from monmouth, university. in the republican side, they have donald trump

and, finally, to senator chuck hagel who was secretary from 2013 to less than a year ago. i and the american people cannot thank all of you enough for your service to our country. and i'm honored to be here with you today. secretary brown, you were secretary when we established diplomatic relations with china, and i was a young lawyer. the chinese are fond of saying a small potato, and the state department. tell us about the relationship with china in those early days when you were secretary, and the dealings you had with the chinese. >> the situation then between the u.s. and china were very different than they are for what they are now, or were for the 10 years of the others as secretary of defense who will be speaking here today. the chinese were then very much worried about soviet possible attack on china, and looked to the u.s. as an offset essentially and as a way of ensuring chinese security. moreover, they were very far from their present military capabilities. and that's quite different from the situation, not only today, but during the tenure of the others here.

. >> secretary hagel? >> i would add a couple. i think my three predecessors covered most of the issues. but it was just a few days after i took office, in february of 2013, that the north koreans launched long-range missiles over the top of japan and other countries in the pacific. that obviously precipitated some new attention. and that within days had me out in a press conference announcing that we were going to build out another eight ground-based intercepters in alaska down the coast. now that alone was not going to deal with the problem. but i say that because, just a reminder, that wasn't very long ago. and then with the latest incident that bill perry mentioned, we all know is another reminder. but just a couple of other points i would make. harold's point about the chinese, i've always believed that there will be ultimately very little progress made on north korea without the chinese. and it won't be because the chinese are supporting our policies or any benevolent reason, but it will be in their self-interests. it's very

secretary hagel, the last word. >> one word, listen. >> to the chinese too? >> listen. >> i want to thank everyone on behalf of the national committee on u.s./china relationships for joining in the beginning of the celebration of our 50th anniversary. and our four secretaries of defense, i thank secretary hagel summed it up perfectly. this was a great program. tell the next president, take 90 minutes out of your day and watch this and you'll learn a lot about u.s./china relations. but please join me in thanking the four secretaries. [ applause ]. >>> a couple of live events to tell you about coming up on the c-span networks. on c-span, it's a discussion on the persian gulf region, in particular recent tensions between iran, saudi arabia and other nations in the region. that's at noon eastern. also at noon, on are c-span2, the congressional internet caucus hosts a discussion on issues facing consumer freedom of expression online. specifically, theonline, specif the tactics businesses use to silence critical reviews of businesses. that's at noon eastern on c-sp

chuck hagel. did not hit hagel it off with the white house. not deal with the president most of the time. you deal with the national security advisor. it just did not work out. ash carter is interesting. here is a guy whose whole resume is as a technocrat. but he has turned into a really aggressive war fighter. since he became secretary of defense, the campaign against isis has really ramped up. has become secretary, we have put special forces teams into syria and put commandos into iraq to conduct raids and , most importantly they have loosened up their restrictions with youru can hit airstrikes. there used to be a standard of zero civilian casualties and now they are willing to accept civilian casualties. charlie: if the target is rich? david: yeah. a perfect example is they started hitting these cash collection sites. so they blow up warehouses full uses tomoney which isis pay its fighters. that is a much more lucrative than takingerally, out a machine gun site. when we were in qatar, talking with the b-1 crew, a big huge bomber that was bu

in the mode of joseph mccarthy when he explicitly suggested the secretary of defense nominee chuck hagelhave taken money from north korea. >> i will point out that right now this committee knows absolutely nothing about the personal compensation chuck hagel received in 2008, 2009, or 2010. it is at a minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from saudi arabia, came directly from north korea. and i have no evidence to suggest that there is or isn't. >> as a social conservative cruz has played his cards well in the crucial state of iowa but he made national news when it came to making birth control accessible to women. here's how he criticized the democrats' charge that republicans are waging a war on women when it comes to contraceptives. >> jiminy cricket, this is a made-up, nonsense example. last i checked, we don't have a rubber shortage in america. but look, when i was in college, we had a machine in the bathroom. you put 50 cents in and voila! >> you know, i don't know. sometimes tmi. trump talking about his belt, a knife going arou

thought the -- what he call it had german mind of the german temperament and traces this back through hagel and becomes the great exemplar. that's an example of a thinker who is very robust thinker and a careful thinker. there are plenty others. in an interesting case here an example -- the example of alan bloom, who in the reception of his famous book, the closing of the american mind, you know blockbuster book, alan bloom says what's wrong with higher education, it's killing the souls of our children, they're getting all the multiculturalism, but what they're not getting is great ideas and the challenges of great ideas. how higher education is i impovereshing. he thinks so much of what is at late 20th century is that intellectuals are reading their neitzsche and they're tired of the universal truth, they are tired of power, someone else's power, they are tired of authority, and so he says that all that the counterculture of the 1960 is unnietzsche and it's one thing to have these kinds of protests on the streets, it's another to bring them into an academy and make such a ruckus. hit the p

sesecretary hagel just a year ao decided the navy''s plan would stick to df -- sti to two contractorsnd dr. carter came through lt year and said we are going down to one type and build 40 of the ships. what was his rationale for that decision? frank: w i will let secretary carter explaed that. the trade-offs are higher-end threats. the sidends to be on of a presencwith more pabilities vago: you meioned it may be better for -- one of the otr major programs was a long-range sike brought -- strike bomber. the decion was made, but everything remains classified. the bcontractors are classified, lies that ininformation ststill classifie? you are familiaiar with the berattacks. haveore information they about who to taet with thosose attacks, the more effective they can be. we are highly motivated to protect our infnformation andnd protect whatever lead we may ha as competitors. people canmulate, anif they stea our dat they can respond much more quickly. we are much more protective than we have been i in the last0 years. boggle bank how u work t that -- oversightght standpoint that congress a

or how was it with, you know, the previous secretary of state, chuck hagel who was his senate mate? >> yeah, chuck hagel just didn't hit it off with the white house. >> rose: but he and the president were friends. >> yeah. >> rose: it just didn't work. >> you don't deal with the president most of the time. you deal with the chief of staff and you dial with the national security advisor. it just didn't work out. ash carter is interesting. here is a guy whose whole resume is as a tech nokrat. but he's turned into a really aggressive war fighter. since he became secretary of defense the campaign against isis has really ramped up. since he became secretary, we put session sporses teams into syria. we have put commandos into iraq, to conduct raids. i think most importantly they've loosened up the restrictions on what you can hit with your air strikes. there used to be a standard of zero civilian casualties. and now they are willing to accept civilian casualties. >> rose: if the target is so rich. >> yeah. and a perfect example is they started hitting these cash collection sites. and so t

over to milwaukee the wild taking on the admirals iowa's marc hagel good pressure behind the net, first period, creats an opportunity and ssi saros (you-see, sar- ohs) makes the save. 2 - goal by iowa's zack mitchell, off the turnover, mitchell scores his team leading 11th of the year, 1-0 wild after one period. 3 - iowa regains the lead, forward kurtis gabriel nets his fourgth goal of the year at 5:50 and it's 2-1 wild in the second. 4 - the wild made it 3-1 at 12:42 of the 2nd period, mitchell gets his second of the night and 12th of the year from grayson downing. 4 to 1 the final tonight the wild have now won 4 of their last 5 where was this earlier in the season. they'll play rockford tomorrow night at the well. jordan/2shot nikki: we'll be right back... you're watching local

. >> hagel du as a conspicuously young american woman were able to move around in these countries and function as a journalist ?a natalie focusing space personalized alsoiz filing a lot of stories obviously with "the new york times" controls -- a press credentials but i had a woman friend who was an engineer about 30 and worked for an americanamer company in she went there and had problems in the street on the way to work cowboys to a follower in called her a whore. >> that does exist but i was lucky not to experience to much of that but the it is a little easier to report as a woman as you are less conspicuous in the less threatening but there can be harassment or more difficult but they don't really take you seriously. so there are some struggles but on balance you give us a better pitcher because they will talk to you if you will be invited into homes. event to talk to everyone together and that is a hugege. vintage but on balance as the stories i wanted to do.t and at the great events news >> in and there are many great female journalist in the region. i don't want to say i found

marc hagel, one of many getting in on the act. best game of the season. they win it 5-1. more hockey going on tonight at buccaneer arena. des moines taking on sioux todd: fighting in hockey ? i have no idea. it does not really work. scott: not a lot car repairs, home improvements, a family trip ...it's not easy to afford them. what did marco rubio do? he put $22,000 in personal expenses on a republican party credit card. rubio's bad judgment caused a scandal and for five years rubio refused to release the credit card records. marco rubio: skipping major votes... bad judgment. he's just not ready to be president. right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. the american people can't afford to wait for ideas that sound good on paper... but will never make it in the real world. the grandmother who has to choose between paying for medicine and paying rent... can't wait. the single mom who desperately needs a raise... can't wait. the student with a mountain of debt can't wait. we can make real progress, right now. i'm caucusing... i'm caucusing... i'm cauc

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francine: when i was in davos and i spoke to chuck hagel, your former defense minister, and we had ation, i was trying to get to the bottom of voters' angst. in greece when you look at the rise of tsipras, and the rise of put demos in spain, there is -- even hagel was having a difficult time pinpointing what it was. it may be the economy, or just that the politicians are becoming that much more bland, but the associated policies that they bring with them, these extremists, is also dangerous for the world economy. vonnie: and talking about how some far right politicians are dealing with far leftist policies to appeal to voters. amazon is down 11% premarket. apparently the results did not deliver, but i want to bring in paul sweeney, the head of research for bloomberg intelligence. amazon is one of the only companies out there that is investing, trying to work toward the future. analysts do not have a problem with amazon's results. why do investors? paul: they said they would -- them thisgot used to bike the fact there was not much profit. 2015 they dial back the spending and profits j

secretary hagel. last word. >> one word? listen. >> to the chinese, too? >> listen. >> i want to thank everyone on behalf of the national committee on u.s.-china relationship, for joining in the beginning of the celebration of our 50th 50th anniversary, and our four secretaries of defense i think secretary hagel summed it up perfectly, this was a great program, tell the next president, take 90 minutes out of your day and watch this and you'll learn a lot about u.s.-china relations, but please join me in thanking the four secretaries here. [applause] a. >> now a look at the future of guantanamo bay. speakers include the director of fordham university's center on national security and the cofounder's of group that advocates closing the detention facility. this is an hour and 20 minutes. >> good afternoon, welcome to the americas. i was going to say foundation but we now call ourselves juster the new americans. we want to get money from other people. >> i run the international security program here. and thanks for coming this afternoon, and thanks to our view

secretary hagel. last word. >> one word? listen. >> to the chinese, too? >> listen. >> i want to thank everyone on behalf of the national committee on u.s.-china relationship, for joining in the beginning of the celebration of our 50th 50th anniversary, and our four secretaries of defense i think secretary hagel summed it up perfectly, this was a great program, tell the next president, take 90 minutes out of your day and watch this and you'll learn a lot about u.s.-china relations, but please join me in thanking the four secretaries here. [applause] >> husband armed services committee hold as hearing on the u.s. policy in the middle east. the witnesses are former acting cia director michael morale, former defense undersecretary, michael vickers and report ford who was u.s. ambassador to syria, live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. also tomorrow, governor chris christie delivers this annual stayed of the state address to the new jersey legislature, live at 3:00 eastern, also on c-span3. and president obama heads to capitol hill tomorrow night for his last

and guys today we met some great vol tuners coaches and athletes like malan hagel. >> yes, we did. >> for more than three decades us. >> been it in 36 years. >> reporter: she is one of the %- most decorated special olympic athletes in the u.s.. participatinn for 35 years. >> i love special olympics. it's like a second home to my family. >> reporter: hannah and connor got the chance to sit down with this legendary special ollmpics swimming is milan's avorite winning several medal this is world and national games and besides boarding, she also accels at track and field. you've been on the board. she does it all. >> yes. >> reporter: mialan was born in vietnam but you can tell by her snow boarding skills she is a colorado native. >> i don't know what year i came. i would say i was three years old. >> reporter: she admits she wouldn't be here if it weren't for her coaches. >> without my coaches pushing me harder and saying don't give up, i know you can do it and they push me the hardest because they know i can accel in this sport. >> she has a desire to go to the world games. >> just go o

awarding combat medals such as the purple heart, silver star and medal of former defense secretary chuck hagel ordered that review. we're told it recommends no changes to the medal of honor criteria, but does say that valor recognitions need to be awarded in a more timely and consistent manner. >>> still ahead, locked and loaded and in full public view. gun owners can now carry openly in texas. first, when it comes to hillary clinton and bernie sanders, do you know the difference between a democrat and a socialist? apparently one of them does not. >>> tonight hillary clinton may be smarting from another self-inflicted political wound. the democratic presidential front-runner staggered through a question about what separates her from her only serious challenger, and his socialist self-description. chief white house correspondent ed henry is following the clinton campaign tonight, from las vegas. >> seeking another friendly venue for a rare media interview, democratic front-runner hillary clinton got tripped up, anyway. when msnbc's chris matthews asked her to explain the differences between soc

the review was ordered then, in 2014 by former defense secretary john hagel.awmakers are calling those honors long overdue. >> sexual abuse allegations going back a decade. >> the claims from former students at a rhode island prep school. >> a show of support. the profess poor despite efforts by her university to fire her. >> this is al jazeera america live from new york. >> at 7:00 - "news roundup". tony harris gives you a fast-paced recap of the day's events. >> this is the first line of defense. >> we have an exclusive story tonight. >> then at 8:00 - john seigenthaler brings you the top stories from across america. >> the question is, will these dams hold? >> and at 9:00 - >> i'm ali velshi, on target tonight... >> ali velshi on target. digging deeper into the issues that matter. >> i'm trying to get a sense for what iranians are feeling. >>> welcome back to your world this matter. now 7:30 eastern time. >> officials say an armed man was shot to death by officers at a police station in the northern part of the certify. the man was reportedly wearing wires

. >> you had a huge fight with the previous defense secretary chuck hagel, who said you were pushing him to release people he wasn't comfortable releasing. >> the secretary of defense only signs orders that he's comfortable with signing. i eet let the secretaries of defense defend their positions one way or another on that. what the president is not willing to do is make this problem, which has consumed enormous amounts of time and important relationships with our countries for the next president. he feels an obligation to the next president. he will fix this so they don't have ton confronted with the 15i78 sort of challenges. >>> in the time left, lightning round. iran has violated a ban on ballistic missile testing at least twice. the administration on december 30th said we're going to send you, congress, a list of sanctions to punish them. there's a ban on ballistic missile testing. hours later saided at moral said no, we're not going to send you a list. >> we we sent them a list of characters who are -- mind if i answer the question? we will issue those sanctioning propose time,

and finally, to senator chuck hagel, who was secretary from 2013 to less than a year ago. i and the american people cannot thank all of you enough for your service to our country. and i am honored to be here with you today. secretary brown, you were secretary when we established diplomatic relations with china and i was a young lawyer, at the chinese are fond of saying small potato in the state department. tell us about the relationship with china in those early days when you were secretary and dealings you had with the chinese. >> the situation then between the u.s. and china were very different from what they are now or were for the tenures of the others as secretary of defense who will be speaking here today. the chinese were then very much worried about soviet possible attack on china. and looked to the u.s. as an offset, essentially, and as a way of ensuring chinese security. moreover, they were very far from their present military capabilities. and that's quite different from the situation not only today but during the tenure of the others here. bill perry was in a s

. >> former secretary of defense chuck hagel claims he was fired for moving too slow in approving detainee transfers and now according to "reuters" ash carter was scolded by the commander-in-chief in september for the same reason. the white house will neither confirm nor deny the report except to say we are all committed to the same goal. safely and responsibly closing the detention facility. according to the director of national intelligence, about 30% of the prisoners already released are either confirmed or suspected of returning to the fight. ed? >> kristen fisher in washington, thank you. >>> up next, we go in-depth to answer a key question. is donald trump electable in a general election? >> first here's what some affiliates are covering tonight. fox 2 in st. louis, with the lifting of the county-wide state of emergency as floodwaters begin to recede and two interstates have reopened. >>> the merrimack river is expected to fall below flood stage levels tomorrow. and fox 4 in anchorage where a spokesman for the family of the man who died when his plane struck two build this is week sa

. >> secretary panetta and secretary hagel once they resign from those positions confirmed that theya lot of difficulty and reluctance to sign off on these transfers because the secretary of defense has to certify that they are no longer a security risk. >> you appreciate the irony that we tightening gun control in our country if i have. >> it just seems more than a bit ironic that in the same week where we're going to see executive action on gun control this administration is going to push out another 17 detainees and once we know the identities and they are public, there is going to be real controversy over their al qaeda links. it just seems to be a real significant disconnect. >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> let's bring in southob carolina congressman trey gowdy. good evening, sir. >> good evening. happy new year. >> happy new year to you. and 17 gitmo detainees are going to be released. do you have any information about them? has congress been briefed who they are and where they are going and what the deal is? >> >> no ma'am, the answer would be no to all of thos

former defense secretaries from gates to panetta to hagel have outlined how this -- afghanistan was always about the good war that was politically good for them as opposed to truly being dedicated to winning it. and as a result you have war fighters flapping out on the edge, putting their lives on the line, and put in precarious situation likes this for a mission they don't even know if their commander in chief even believes in. >> say a prayer. i've got to go, guys. my apologies. thank you. >>> breaking tonight with general david petraeus about to testify to the benghazi select committee, three of the heroes who defended the compound there in 2012 are raising new questions about hillary clinton's role in all of this. brit hume is here next on that. >>> plus, we'll show you what brought president obama to tears today during an announcement on gun control. >>> and then marc thiessen weighs in on the difference between the president on this issue and on the issue of terror. >>> plus, a wildly popular new netflix show tells the story of how a man and his nephew may have been wrongfully convic

when chuck hagel was just sworn in after a rough confirmation process, he had to go over to the pentagon and look at $36 billion cut in seven months and no discretion. so how do you reconcile what your requirements are with what you resources are going to be? very hard. so what comes first? training. development, research. but the training is most critical because we had to stand down a number of a wind. they couldn't fly. pilots were not allowed to fly this aircraft because the budget wasn't there to permitted. so what happens under the circumstances if the president says i need you to go fight a war in iraq, afghanistan or yemen, or where ever it might be? these pilots are not ready to go. not ready for duty. people to see the sorts of things but they are happening. was a slight we breathe the last two years with the agree to bump up the budget for two years. 2016 is coming, and under 2016 you go back into the sequester. that's not just defense department. it's nasa, its nih. think about it. we've had an ebola scare the with all kinds of issues come in with food safety, air safety. do

the new secretary of defense doesn't have a problem with it. >> gates, panetta, hagel. this secretary of defense is gritting his teeth all the way. this is what the white house does. they force politically national security leaders and his hands are tied. he's doing the white house's bidding. >> he doesn't have to do it. they can't replace him without -- >> that's true. >>> suing to stop the biological father from forcing her to abort a baby because he only wants two. can he do that legally? we're going to debate it next. ♪ ♪ ♪ there's a lot of places you never want to see "$7.95." [ beep ] ♪ but you'll be glad to see it here. fidelity -- where smarter investors will always be. iand quit a lot,t but ended up nowhere. now i use this. the nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release technology, helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq. it's winter. eat winter snacks. freshman. campbell's. made for real, real life. [bassist] two late nights in blew an amp.but good nights. sure,music's why we do this,bu

then defense secretary chuck hagel and says i don't think you are moving fast enough. second term commander used to having his orders executed, not -- questioned. i was giving floor speeches calling for the closing of one time before you were even in the senate, mr. president, the former republican senator from nebraska shot back, according to two people familiar with details of the interaction. then he really pushed it, maybe you need a new defense secretary. obama who had already been growing dissatisfied with hagel said dennis, get together with chuck and fix this. an independent. getting thoughts on president obama's last state of the union address. thank you. i thought it was a good speech. it was concise and to the point. it pretty much covered a lot of areas without losing us. , we have thety attention span of a gnat. it was concise and to the point. i like it. he covered some good points. he touted his strong points. it was brought out earlier that at his inauguration, the gop was having meetings planning on fighting his legislation and his .fforts every step o

. >> i want to talk to you about red lines, because former defense secretary chuck hagel said in a recent interview that president obama's decision to stand down on planned missile strikes against damascus after assad had used chemical weapons hurt the president's credibility. should the president have stuck to his red line once he drew it? >> look, i think that the president's decision to go after the chemical weapons once there was a potential opportunity to build on when the russians opened that door, resulted in a very positive outcome. we were able to get the chemical weapons out. secretary of state that we were deeply worried about assad's forces using chemical weapons because it would have had not only a horrific affect on people in syria, but it could very well have affected the surrounding states, jordan, israel, lebanon, turkey. so getting those chemical weapons out was a big -- >> but should he have stuck to his line? did it hurt u.s. credibility? >> i think as commander and chief, you've got to constantly be evaluating the decisions you have to make. i know a little bit about