former secretarsecretar y of defense chuck hagel will join us.supporters scott brown with us and the ceo of norwegian cruz lines, frank del rio is with us. stay with us. big lineup. the republican national convention. donald trump pulled announce his vice presidential pick as house speaker newt gingrich are on the short list as new swing state polls just came out. live in cleveland where we will have the republican convention kicking off this weekend. good morning to you. >> good morning, maria. the latest numbers show the fbi decision not to indict hillary clinton for allegedly mishandling her e-mail may not have done much good for her with voters because the very reliable quinnipiac poll shows are losing support in swing states. trump is now up by three points. 42-39, a state where clinton was up eight at the of last. in ohio, clinton and trump type 41 to 41. in pennsylvania, trump is at 43-41. its debris trail by one must not give pollsters say the thing having hillary the most is her honesty and trustworthiness and trump is looking to keep hi

lewis: since i have worked for secretary hagel and secretary carter, every transfer has met the statutory requirement. it is my understanding that the administration prior to my coming transferred pursuant to the process that envoy wolosky indicated, and there was no transfers i am aware of that did not meet the statutory requirement. rep. royce: i don't think you can just wish away intelligence reports that raise raise gravens, reports -- raise concerns. if you are now saying that the intelligence reports are, i assume, the implication is, i have to say,n from what we can tell, the president has made a political decision to close guantanamo no matter what the cost to national security, basically. based upon our experience, based upon our discussions, which go on for some considerable time now, in terms of the warnings about the five individuals who were transferred to uruguay and the subsequent conduct and notified that one of them has been released. that can be the only reason why these intelligence assessment are being pushed aside. in my judgment. appears that the assurances that you

secretary carter approved 45 detain years and secretary hagel approved 44 detainees committee and appreciate the attention you have given. as i stated i would like to reiterate one continuing point regarding the detention facility. the president and the national security committee have determined closing the detention facility is a security imperative. that is a strong term. the president in his leadership of the national security team believe continued operation of the tension to -- detention facility weakens international security. closing guantÁnamo's about protecting, not weakening. the importance of closing the detention facility is echoed by former president george w. bush and a long list of former secretaries of state, secretary of defense, staff chairman and other former military leaders. as representative engel noted there was a letter by former flag officers including former commandant of the marine corps. transfers from gitmo are in the national security interest of the united states and are conducted in a safe and responsible manner. on march 23, 2016, i testified before this com

secretary hagel approved the transfer of 44 detainees. secretary panetta, seven.ates, 65. during this administration 159 detain yesterdays have been transferred. we understand the importance of this issue to you and this committee, and we appreciate the attention you have given to it. as i stated in march at the outset, i'd like to reiterate one continuing fundmental point regarding this detention facility. the president and his national security committee have determined that closing this detention facility is a national security imperative. imperative is a strong term. the president and his leadership of the national security team believe that the continued operation of the detention facility weakens our national security. closing guantanamo is about protecting the country north weakening it. as you know the importance of closing this detention facility is echoed by former president george w. bush and a long list of former secretaries of state, secretaries of defense, joint staff chairmen and other former military leaders can, as representative engle noted, a le

secretary hagel approved the transfer of 44 detainees. secretary panetta, 7, and secretary gates, 65, during this administration, 159 detainees have been transferred. mr. chairman, we understand the importance of this issue to you and this committee and we appreciate the attention you have given to it. as i stated in march at the outset, i would like to reiterate one continuing fundamental point regarding this detention facility. the prelz and his national security committee have determined that closing this detention facility is a national security imperative. imperative is a strong term. the president and his leadership of the national security team believe that the continued operation of the detention facility weakens the national security. closing guantanamo is about protecting the country, not weakening it. as you know, the importance in closing this detention facility is echoed by former president george w. bush and a long list of former secretaries of state, secretaries of defense, joint staff chair men and other former military le

secretary carter has approved the transfer of 45 detainee those have already been approved secretary hagel approved 44 in secretary panetta had seven during this administration and we appreciate the attention we have given. as i stated in march like to reiterate one fundamental point the president in the national security committee have determined is a national security imperative that is a strong term and believe the facility it is closing about protecting the country not weakening it. as you know, the importance with the long list of former secretaries of state, defense and other military and leaders as the representative noted a letter was provided for flag officers and a commandants of the report there in the national security interest and are conducted in a safe and responsible manner. i testified before this committee and was asked whether did the department of defense had never knowingly transferred adt to a country that did not exhibit the ability to substantially mitigate the risk i stated they had not conducted such a of a transfer and i stand by my response we have addressed you

the defendant attack argued against the worst vision by plato and both involve by hagel and marx is inimical to the very ideal of human freedom. human beings are not merit enough of historical forces beyond their control. historicism is the enemy of liberty. that is just as true today. today a related but different a star system fallacy is afoot. the idea that capital h. history has some account religion and rendered it obsolete. this is reflected in common sayings we've all heard such as religious people stand on the wrong side of history of that society cannot turn back the clock or the gene tempo back in a bottle or mechanical back to the 1950s, and so when. all of these phrases should be recognized what they are which is retail historicism. they are used as ideological weapons to shut down debate. to say that religious believers have been overruled by history is to say that their opinions have no merit. we need to be aware of the threat that today's historicism poses to freedom itself. just as popper was that anyone who puts religious liberty in quotation marks, as many people now do, or

actually, she was in concert with bob gates at the defense department, leon panetta at the cia, and chuck hagel. i think there's a case to be made she is more hawkish, but she tries to hide that. when we get into the more general election and there's a debate against donald trump, certainly that's going to have to be fleshed out. >> all right. last night on "hannity," newt was on the phone right away after the speech. he explained and i guess clarified, illuminated some of the comments, saying, wait, wait, wait, i'm not going to praise her as it relates to foreign policy. >> i'm sorry, when bill first finished, there were a lot of pundits even on this network saying he did a great job. i wholeheartedly disagree. i'd agree more with newt. bill says you drop her into any hot spot, any trouble zone, and she'll make it better. i'll say it again, benghazi, she didn't make it better, she made it worse, especially for four families. the iran deal is still brewing. >> they haven't violated one aspect of the deal. >> they have violated -- >> listen, lee. you know what's different here? >> you're 100% wr

secretary carter approved 45 detain years and secretary hagel approved 44 detainees

remember, you had hagel, panetta, and gates, three secretaries of defense, resign over the fact thathey had a different perspective. this was one, that they wanted to fight harder. today we find out that not only is president obama doing this, i think troubling partnership with putin in russia to fight isis, you saw assad, the president there saying they -- they're not serious about it. i think pressure is mounting for president obama to do more. find out also the 82rd airborne will deploy, there will be boots on the ground in december of this year, different than what president obama promised. that's okay. i think it will support them. yes, it's important that they're finally waking up but at our country's national security expense. so there's much to be done. there's much that should have been done. and it's really a matter of leadership and making the right decisions and about semantics where they can't say radical muslim terrorist. let's get going and get start today. >> is this bad news for isis? >> i'm trying to figure this out. we pointed out that erdogan is out of the country

. >> the campaigns is try to hagel and try to push for different people but the commission does choose. since you're relatively new in the role, you've been with the trump campaign for another a month, you were formerly working for the cruz campaign, what is is difference with this campa n campaign? >> i'm having a blast with this campaign and as we talk about broader issues, we talk about how the media is covering this campaign, i think one of the things that the media is having a tough time with is how to cover a candidate like donald trump who has tapped into this feeling, this sentiment that people really want change. that's a huge difference with hillary clinton and tim kaine is they're running for this third term and the status quo, donald trump is on theside of people who want change. >> i agree with the journalists who are trying to cover this campaign. one of the issues i'm facing is now to challenge the misstatement of trump saying the nfl sent him a letter, you're making it a big deal that he found out from a phone call, not a letter from the league. do you think that the jo

the new secretary of defense, chuck hagel, attended meeting after meeting, hoping one would emerge. >> in those meetings, there were too many people there. i'd go into these meetings and every chair was filled in the situation room. you'd have 30 people in there sometimes. what were they doing in there? and everybody had a chance to talk. we rarely got to a conclusion or a decision, and too many people talking, and i think that always leads to an ineffective process. >> narrator: the president himself resisted authorizing military intervention. >> the notion that the way to solve every one of these problems is to deploy our military, that hasn't been true in the past and it won't be true now. >> narrator: the threat of isis seemed distant. >> president obama doesn't see this emerging group as an existential threat. he doesn't even see it as equivalent to al-qaeda in any real way. "don't inflate these guys into something that they're not. don't make them eight-foot giants." >> narrator: we asked the white house for an interview; they declined. back in raqqa, baghdadi was pursuing a new

you very much, you are on donald trump's short list for vice president your thoughts on what chuck hagellitary from other rolls. >> we always has to maintain civilian controls in military i have enormous respect for secretary hagel i agree with him i think he is right but i would tell you that for people who serve whether in military or in some other aspect of government, you know the question that i have asked others who i have had the same conversation with when do you stop being an american when do you stop serving your country i feel very passionate about our country, going forward. and that is the decision that i have made, to continue to serve in some capacity even if it is on the outside because i feel like we are going the wrong direction. >> general i want to ask you, i want to talk more about vice presidential role what you bring to the table obviously but i was reading an article yesterday, about what you said to the daily caller he spent 33 years intelligence field, president obama s put you in job twice, he appointed you twice as assistant director national intelligence as d

that hagel's world historical individual who included lincoln, it doesn't work for history. history is much more multifaceted and complicated but i do think we lose something first as a nation by not celebrating people who were great. i think they would -- it's a good idea to celebrate people who really achieved something. and while not all the presidents have and not all the presidents will, that people like lincoln and all their complexity, washington, the two roosevelts have done something and we should pay some attention to it. how does this work? i'm going the wrong way here. it was short. [ laughter ] i did my best. all right. the other thing as part of the interpretive theory as i'm getting older where i actually -- historians are always changing things because they need to come up with new ideas because they need to write new books so they can keep their jobs and the frontier thesis is largely discredited but as again i've gotten older and thought about it again and not a yes or no way that you can bring in the fact that america crossing the prairies, crossing to the

including as we'll get to with lincoln that they determine the outcome of world historic events that hagel's world individual who included lincoln, doesn't really work for history. history is much more multifaceted and complicated, but i do think we lose something, first instance in asia by not celebrating people who were great. i think they would -- it is a good idea to celebrate people who really achieved something. and while not all the presidents have and not all the presidents will, that people like lincoln and all their complexity, washington, two roosevelts, have done so. i think we should pay some attention to it. how does this work? i went the wrong way here. it was short. i did my best. the other thing as part of the interpretive theory, historians are always changing things, they need to come up with new ideas because they need to write new books so they can keep their jobs, and the frederick jackson turner frontier thesis is largely discredited, but as i've gotten older, and thought about it again, and not in a yes or no way, that you can bring in the fact that america crossing t

uruguayan authorities and regularly review intelligence and regularly look at this, did secretary hagel, a very forceful, careful, deliberate person, finds the congressional notification saying he felt that uruguay could substantially mitigate any threat by the detainees. i'm happen to discuss this in closed session. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> we'll make arrange. s to do that. but at the same time the end of the day, uruguayans gave him the travel cards. gave him the travel card to travel. end of the day, he walked right out of there. three times. this time, nobody can locate him to get him back into custody. and he is an al qaeda linked terrorist. 'll go -- from florida. >> thank you so much for calling this hearing and continuing to demand transparency and accountable from the administration regarding its plan for naval station guantanamo bay and the detention center. as you point out, mr. chairman, the administration has not been forthcoming with the american people about the release of dangerous terrorists at various nations. the reality is that the situation is far different th

signed by dozens of foreign policy leaders, including former secretaries madeleine albright, and chuck hagel, which correctly states, and i quote, religious bans and tests are un-american and have no place in our refugee and immigration policies. mr. chairman, i have a long list of statements i would like to submit for the record from the ranking member, senator leahy, from the muslim public affairs council, amnesty international, the labor alliance, recent "new york times" article by aziz ansa ansari. a "washington post" article by general petraeus. i assume those would be admitted without objection. >> without objection. >> as to the empty seats before us and your opening comments, it was my understanding this meeting was scheduled with a bear minimum of notice and no consultation from the inviting witnesses. it is my expectation they're busy keeping our country safe and as you surely appreciate from your work at the justice department, asking witnesses here to speak about the ongoing investigation into the orlando incident would not have produced any productive testimony. and i will note

they are -- include former secretaries of defense chuck hagel and bill cohen and leon panetta, former secretaries of state, madeleine albright, national security advisor bra desigbrazinski and former senats olympia snowe, the chair of the 9/11 commission and the chief of staff gordon r. sullivan. these and others agree climate change is a threat to national security and have called for u.s. leadership in the global effort to tackle the urgent and complex problems of climate change. but yet even these lives and selfless americans are being dismissed if you will by the organized effort to undercut scientific evidence. now, we took steps and have taken steps. just last december in paris we took a step forward with an international agreement. more than 150 countries pledged to develop plans to tackle climate change domestically, including countries once reluctant to act like china and india. american leadership has been key to getting these countries on board and agreeing to do their fair share. these countries are also acting because it's in their self-interest to do so for their own hea

secretary carter has approved the transfer of 45 detainee those have already been approved secretary hagel approved 44 in secretary panetta had seven during this administration and we appreciate the attention we have given. as i stated in march like to reiterate one fundamental point the president in the national security committee have determined is a national security imperative that is a strong term and believe the facility it is closing about protecting the country not weakening it. as you know, the importance with the long list of former secretaries of state, defense and other military and leaders as the representative noted a letter was provided for flag officers and a commandants of the report there in the national security interest and are conducted in a safe and responsible manner. i testified before this committee and was asked whether did the department of defense had never knowingly transferred adt to a country that did not exhibit the ability to substantially mitigate the risk i stated they had not conducted such a of a transfer and i stand by my response we have addressed you