haley barbour says, "big time." so, what's the problem? these are hot. we're shipping 'em everywhere. but we can't predict our shipping costs. dallas. detroit. different rates. well with us, it's the same flat rate. same flat rate. boston. boise? same flat rate. alabama. alaska? with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service. if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. dude's good. dude's real good. dudes. priority mail flat rate boxes only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. >> i want to know. are you going to tell me, an individual, that i have to buy health care, or else you're going to find me? -- fine me? neil: the guy taking the heat is a democratic senator ben cardin. in maryland residents is with us. -- a maryland resident is with us. robert, what did you get? >> essentially, center garden -- senator cardin said that if i got into accident and ended up in the emergency room, other taxpayers would pay for my irresponsibility. naturally, i did not get a chance to disagree. i have taken responsibility on

joining me now republican governor from mississippi haley barbour. governor barbour, good to see you. >> thank you, carlos. good to be with you and vernon. >> we were just talking. vernon was saying you're as well situated as anyone can be for 2012. >> haley, i'm glad to see you. i last saw you during katrina and you made a hell of a speech. >> vernon, thank you very much, old friend. look, any republican thinking about anything past 2010 doesn't have his eye on the ball. we have two big races in virginia and new jersey. there's 37 governor races in the entire house of the state of virginia. so, thanks for the idea. my focus in politics is focused on 2010. >> governor barbour i know you were chairman of rnc and partnered to lead the republican revolution. is there any part of you that says republicans are too combative right now in their opposition to president obama and that could ultimately backfire as we saw in '95 and '96 with the government shutdown? >> well, i think what republicans need to do is be for what they think is the right policy. ther

[applause] at this time i would like to ask your host governor, haley barbour to come forward and introduce our next speaker. >> i'm glad to introduce one of my citizens. nucor steel, god bless them as a great facility in suburban jackson mrs. bee and another facility in our state. >> and tamika is the ceo of newt core which was mentioned earlier, is the largest manufacturer of steel in the united states as well as the largest recycler in north america. he has got a little different view on energy policy. he is one of the country's biggest energy consumers in the private sector. deanne. [applause] >> good morning. everybody going to stick around for not only mind but ira's? we are going to be here as long as we have an audience or as least as long as the cameras are rolling. two things i would like to start off with. number one, karen, thank you for setting a realistic tone. appreciate it. is a manufacturer in this country in 2000, hard-working men and women. katie, what can i say? number one message that i heard and that we have been preaching since the 90's and before, since the '70s is w

so just to reconfirm, governor haley barbour will be a witness at 12:45, and jeff merkley will chair that. and then we'll come back at 2:00 p.m. for the rest of the panel. we stand adjourned. thank you, again. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> the senate environment and public works committee taking a break in this hearing on a clean energy economy. members breaking to attend a swearing in ceremony in the senate chamber this afternoon. democrat al franken today being sworn in as the newest member of the senate from minnesota. we expect the committee to reconvene. we'll have live coverage with senator merkley and senator inhofe only talking to mississippi governor haley barbour. that's expected to start at 12:45 eastern. live coverage here on c-span. the second panel is set to begin at 2:00. we will have to record that. we'll show it to you later as the u.s. house is set to meet at 2:00 p.m. eastern. of course, live coverage of the house, as always, live on c-span. while we wait for this hearing to resum

joining me is the governor of mississippi, haley barbour.elcome become. >> hey, sean, thanks for having me back. sean: i'm not even allowed 0 to speculate at all, ohio, new hampshire, there was no other reason to be there except -- are you running? >> well, look, john sununu, used to be the governor, said i want to come to new hampshire and talk about party building who's not running for president. i said, john, i'm the answer to your prayers. i went up to new hampshire and talked about party building. i did the same thing in iowa. i'm focused on electing republican governors this year. we got new jersey and virginia, two critical races and next year, 37 governor' races. that's what i got my mind on, 2009 and 2010. sean: you're right, it is too early but no doubt you will contemplate it at some point. key polling, what does this mean to you, in the swing state of ohio, quinnipiac poll has barack obama down 13 points from just in may and his disapproval is up 13 points. then we have this gallup poll that shows 40% of the country is conservati

. >> mississippi republican haley barbour, who is hosting this year's national governor's association meeting, says the stimulus package is twice as big as it needs to be, which is why he initially opposed the program, but now he says he intends to work with it. the university of southern mississippi economics professor william gunther says the governors have little choice. >> if there is an alternative to keeping us from going into the great, great depression, somebody should come up with it. until then, trying to stimulate the economy the way the government is doing it is the only answer. >> the american people are smarter than politicians give them credit for. they can judge whether this stimulus package has been successful or not, and particularly whether the cost has been worth the reward. >> with only 10 perg 10% of stimulus dollars in the pipeline, some complain that it is moving too slowly. many states have used the money to shore up healthcare and deficits rather than spending it on road construction and other shovel-ready projects. >> they've got to make decisions because ma

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>> governor haley barbour was proud to host this conference.m standing on now during katrina, during the storm surge it was under 20 feet of water. look at this new convention center behind me. this is where the governors met. it's like day and night. they still have a long way to go but they have come such a long way, shep. shepard: they have, indeed. proud of them too. thank you. something else that could raise the cost of health care. cent narins. people who live past 100. diet, medicine fewer people smoking a lot of people living longer these days. growing rank also no doubt strain the weakened and medicare and security programs. the census bureau reports number of people jumped from few thousand in 1950 to more than 350,000 today. nearly 6 million by the year 2050. by the way, the oldest man in the world right now lives in montana. he is 112-year-old walter bruining. he learned to read by light of a kerosene lantern he tells us and cast his first presidential ballot for a man named woodrow wilson. wow, to business news now and a major fina

governor haley barbour will be a witness at 12:45 and jeff merkley will chair that. and then we'll come back at 2:00 pm for the rest of the panel. we stand adjourned. thank you again. >> we take you live now to the u.s. capitol as the senate resumes work on homeland security department spending for the next fiscal year. live coverage on c-span2. the presiding officer: please join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the presiding officer: the clerk will read a communication to the senate. the clerk: washington, d.c, july 8, 2009, to the senate: under the provisions of rule 1, paragraph 3, of the standing rules of the senate, i hereby appoint the honorable tom udall, a senator from the state of new mexico, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: robert c. byrd, presidet pro tempore. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: following leader remarks ther

extended invitations to republican party chairman michael steele, as well as to republican governors haley barbour of mississippi, tim pawlenty and puerto rico. stooe steele and all three republican governors declined. and did so through the committee. in other words, they did not individually turn down the invites. the republican party turned down all of them. and in addition to the snub, la raza spokesman said the plum line -- the latino community is open to hearing from both sides, which is why both were invited. the republican party not being here may demonstrate a lack of commitment to our community. in an era of richard nixon, the republican party chose the southern strategy, led as much as msnbc's patrick j. bruuchana as anyone else. the idea was to maximize the standing by stoking the idea that white people needed to stand together against minorities to exploit fear of and resentment of minorities among white people in order to maximize the republican party's share of the white vote and to assume, along the way, that the republican party would never really compete for nonwhite votes. now a

you have haley barbour down there in mississippi. he has done a fine job. maybe looking at it.ple around the country that we know that maybe nationally aren't looking at but that have some possibility that they might step into this race. we're a long way away. i think we'll have plenty of leaders out there from which to choose. >> bay, i want to bring in angela who has a question. >> bay, good to hear you're looking at new stars to come into the conversation. but what are the party's plan to unify itself around one message and to be able to speak effectively against a incredibly strong president? >> your question is a good one, how do we unify. the key issue today without question and one i believe is in our favor is the economy. the kind of outrageous, uncontrollable and unsustainable is the word that congressional budget office is using. spending by this administration. we will come back around the issue of smaller government and i believe that's what is going to inspire many, many people to get into the race and thousands and thousands of americans to start looking again at

you have haley barbour from mississippi, tim pawlenty from minnesota. think you will see as people are more familiar with them and their executive experience and stand on taxes that they are going to come up. so i think it is interesting, this is a rich field and i think that contrary to what i heard earlier i don't think people had a negative feeling about mitt romney after the election. there was some question about his being a mormon and all that. but i think mitt romney has come out with a better reputation, people have a better feeling about him now than they might have had during the 2008 campaign. martha: i'm sure people would be glad to think it is a rich field. some think it not. >> i think that juan is exactly right. i think that there is going to be a lot of fluidity and he makes a good point. viewers should watch the field. it is very flexible. but romney has reversed the image he had about a year ago. martha: it is a land far, far away but everybody has to think about what is coming down the pipeline. it may be tough to be far out front at

and so -- >> haley barbour. >> yeah. >> it's our way of saying, y'all come back, now, hear?pi gulf coast. now, get out of here. >> i could listen to him talk all day. that's the best voice i've ever heard. >> he's great. thanks. >>> last night in los angeles, it was all about the espys. the celebration of the best, the brightest. the most inspirational moments in sports, all to benefit the v. foundation, for jimmy v. twb, taryn winter brill, was at the center of it all. >> reporter: olymp gold medalist, michael fell pts and nastia liukin, were voted best ath r athletes. and the lakers, best team. at last night's espys. you can see the award show sunday on espn. only on "good morning america," can you see the pros, offering one-on-one advice, on the red carpet. can you show me how to put these on? michael phelps helped me with my goggles. i had some malfunctions in the past. have you ever done an interview on a red carpet with a reporter wearing goggles? >> no. it's a first. >> reporter: the pittsburgh steelers won best game at the espys. and ben roethlisberger re-enacted tha

so just to reconfirm, governor haley barbour will be a witness at 12:45, and jeff merkley will chairt. and then we'll come back at 2:00 p.m. for the rest of the panel. we stand adjourned. thank you, again. [captioning performed by [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> you are watching c-span, public affairs programming courtesy of america's cable companies. next, a hearing on detainee military trials. topics on washington journal include federal stimulus spending and consumer protection legislation and sonia sotomayor. " washington journal begins every weekday at 7:00 eastern. the ninth day of the senate health committee's work continues with a closed door session beginning at 10:00 eastern. the live coverage will begin when the committee opens their meeting to the cameras. >> justice department officials said only voluntary statements from the detainees can be used in military trials. the testimony came during the senate armed services committee hearing. this panel is about two hours. >> good morning. the

so just to reconfirm, governor haley barbour will be a witness at 12:45, and jeff merkley will chair that. and then we'll come back at 2:00 p.m. for the rest of the panel. we stand adjourned. thank you, again. >> the committee will open. and we'll dive right into business. we're resuming testimony and we are fortunate to have the governor of the state of mississippi with us, the honorable haley barbour, we'll be taking his testimony. and then i believe there's a few questions that the senators may have. so welcome. it's good to have you join us today. [inaudible] >> this is my -- and our younger son, reed, lives up here. thank you for the courtesy, senator merkley. thank you for inviting me to testify before you on the critical issues of energy policy and america's future. america's future is so tied to our energy policy that this hearing can be held before the senate armed services, foreign relations, finance, energy or budget committee and be equally important and relevant to their work. energy policies significantly impacts the aspect of american foreign and domestic policy. energ

haley barbour says resign. still he has to run to iowa.ng by quitting. remember her own remarks about quitting? all of a sunday she decides that she is not having fun anymore maybe kirsten is right. she is just going to walk out and leave the people of alaska to cope with all of the economic problems they are having and every other problem. look, maybe it will work for her. maybe she will raise lots of money. maybe she will get a talk show job but she right now is a quitter and fair game for david letterman and others who want to make fun of her. brian: maybe my political career will die so if it dies that dies. >> that's part of her schtick. she is not the politics of the way that we normally do it. she is different. i think that this really resonates with the people who like her. i think they see her as somebody who is fighting the good fight against the liberal media she is standing up. she is going to stand by her principles. brian: something tells me you are not buying it. [ laughter ] brian: when we come back, i can sense. the punch

council member myself, it is good to be back here from the last time i was here with the governor haley barbourment of homeland security, seeing somewhat of a large government department so we are undergoing efficiency review looking for ways to make sure that we spend every penny that we get wisely. i thought that we will bring our dues here today the. the topics we are discussing are with us and our the challenge of a 21st century network. it is important that the council be apprised of what the department of common security is doing to meet those challenges. president obama has been very forceful about seeing the threat of terrorism and all of its complexity and bringing all of our resources not just the federal government to bear against violent extremism. today, i will speak about the urgent need to refocus our counter terror approached and to make a shared endeavor. to make it more layered, network, and resilienct. to make sure that as a country, as a nation, we are at the point where we are in a constant and not a state of fear. the challenge is not is using federal power to protect the

alisyn: here is what governor haley barbour said from mississippi. alisyn: what's interesting, of course, is that the white house was hoping to lobby the state leaders and governors because they wanted the governors to apply pressure to congress to get the bill going and to push it through. but that's not happening because the governors are giving pushback to the administration saying we simply can't afford this right now. steve: there is a bit of a band-aid on it right now. if it were passed immediately, the stimulus money would help for about a year and a half. but then it would run out. and perhaps the feds would help them out for maybe four or five years. but then the federal government would not be helping the states as much as the states really need. so the governors are saying, hey, look, we all are together on this. we would like to fix the healthcare system, something isn't working right. but you cannot put this huge burden on the states. we don't have the dough, mr. president. alisyn: the national governor's association projects that states

haley barbour in mississippi has focused on the challenge of the b.c. in their state. fundamentally, how we are going to succeed in reducing the cost of care is improving the health of the american people. that is why if we shift from eight sick-care system to a health care system and focus on peak -- keeping people out of the hospital and doctor's office instead of -- a except for checkups, that is where we will make a difference. host: democrat caller. caller: i want to ask the governor, why is it that -- host: are you there? caller: white is it that we as taxpayers are always paying for these senators and governors and representatives -- we are paying for your health insurance and it seems that the republicans are still against the poor. why is this? remember jeremiah and his quote to is the lights when they were distant -- disobedient and uncaring. host: de have any thoughts? guest: interestingly i have been trying in vermont to get our state employees union to pay more for health insurance so that the taxpayers don't have to pay as much, but i have not had any luc

for this annual meeting of the association, our good friend and host governor healy barbour -- haley barbour jim, thank you very much. i take no offense at that smart alec remark by you or governor mansion wearing his ear phones. we in mississippi and i literally speak for all mississippians, welcome the national governors association back. the last time we held this conference was in 1935, and we've just had the opening news conference over in the sister city to biloxi of gulfport which is immediately to the west. and from the room in which we held the opening news conference you could see the mark hamm building which is it was held in 1935. it got about three stories of waterloo it when hurricane katrina hit here almost four years ago. several of you have mentioned to me that you had visited mississippi since the storm, and we are very proud of the progress that continues to be made. but we are not through. there is more to be done, but the strong, resilient, self-reliant people of south mississippi are up to the task. the coast is coming back bigger and better than ever and we are glad to

[applause] at this time i would like to ask your host governor, haley barbour to come forward and introduce our next speaker. >> i'm glad to introduce one of my citizens. nucor steel, god bless them as a great facility in suburban jackson mrs. bee and another facility in our state. >> and tamika is the ceo of newt core which was mentioned earlier, is the largest manufacturer of steel in the united states as well as the largest recycler in north america. he has got a little different view on energy policy. he is one of the country's biggest energy consumers in the private sector. deanne. [applause] >> good morning. everybody going to stick around for not only mind but ira's? we are going to be here as long as we have an audience or as least as long as the cameras are rolling. two things i would like to start off with. number one, karen, thank you for setting a realistic tone. appreciate it. is a manufacturer in this country in 2000, hard-working men and women. katie, what can i say? number one message that i heard and that we have been preaching since the 90's and before, since the '70s is w

the first panel of this hearing on clean energy economy with testimony from mississippi governor haley barbour. this hearing held by the senate environment committee. panel two set to begin at -- after a short lunch break, that'll be at about 2:00 eastern. we're planning to record that for later airing on the c-span network but you will be able to watch it live at c-span.org. the reason we can't bring that to you live is the u.s. house is gaveling in at 2:00 for legislative work. they're working on a number of suspension bills, votes a little lit la -- later on this afternoon. you can see the house live here on c-span, that's at 2:00 p.m. eastern. you can watch that panel at 2:00 on our website. again, that's c-span.org. one of those testifying in the second panel is john federman, he was a guest on this morning's "washington journal," talking about clean energy and reducing global warming. >> our guest now, the mayor of braddock, pennsylvania, john federman, he's a democrat, he'll be testified in front of the senate today. the topic is clean energy and the economy. mr. mayor, what will your m

haley, great job as usual. governor barbour has shown great leadership in leading the state that. years ago, looking back at the response led by governor barbara to make sure that mississippi came through very difficult challenging time. congratulations on that effort, and thank you so much for being our gracious host this week. thanks to march as well for her hard work and hospitality. this is the 101st annual meeting of the national governors' association. it was formed at the suggestion of the roosevelt who is a former chief executive of the state of new york. he thought it was a good idea for governors to come together every now and in and talk about issues of importance to the states. we have been doing it for more than a century. twice now in mississippi, and we hope that these meetings will continue to be a forum for bipartisan discussions, solutions, and confronting the challenges that america is facing. we have a lot of hard work ahead of us over the next couple of days. our committees have full agendas. we have several plenary sessions that we will be talking about with

haley, great job as usual. governor barbour has shown great leadership in leading the state that.years ago, looking back at the response led by governor barbara to make sure that mississippi came through very difficult challenging time. congratulations on that effort, and thank you so much for being our gracious host this week. thanks to march as well for her hard work and hospitality. this is the 101st annual meeting of the national governors' association. it was formed at the suggestion of the roosevelt who is a former chief executive of the state of new york. he thought it was a good idea for governors to come together every now and in and talk about issues of importance to the states. we have been doing it for more than a century. twice now in mississippi, and we hope that these meetings will continue to be a forum for bipartisan discussions, solutions, and confronting the challenges that america is facing. we have a lot of hard work ahead of us over the next couple of days. our committees have full agendas. we have several plenary sessions that we will be talking about with s