bhakti hansoti. jonathan: you want to start their? is way more important than where we are right now. jonathan: dr., forgive us. docotor, forgive us. dr. bhakti hansoti of johns hopkins. >> i was a -- girl before to beckham was famous. jonathan: there we go. tom: that is news you need to know. lisa: can we move to covid? [laughter] tom: dr. bhakti hansoti, we have a lot of questions. i don't buy first wave, second wave, third wave. if it is not a third wave, what is it question mark just an entire pandemic? dr. hansoti: let's just call it what it is, it is an ongoing pandemic have failed to overcome. tom: if we see louisiana and florida spiking, indonesia with grim data as well, can you support the giving of money to make the unvaccinated vaccinated? is that money well spent? dr. hansoti: i think so. we are now a global community. people travel, delta spread worldwide extremely rapidly. unless we improve vaccination rates, we will not decrease the number of circulars and virus -- of circulating virus. we have to vaccinate globally if