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now as the impeachment battle deepens both sides harken back to the july morning. >> it's a witch hunt. based on a single phone call. of congratulations to the president of ukraine. which they fraudulently mischaracterized to sound absolutely horrible. >> it's clear the investigation is far deeper tan that single phone call. for hill who resigned her post this summer that call still stand out. i sat in an awful lot of calls and haven't seen anything like this. i was there for two and a half years. so i was just shocked. >> in the coming days you will hear criticism about the whistleblower. with the president and republicans railing against the hearings saying trump should be allowed to confront the accuser. important to point out this moved far beyond the whistleblower. it's a series of officials from inside the trump team and government who are amplifying the original complaint. from that july phone call. >> thank you so much for that. with the clock ticking to the opening of public hearings house entenl chair schiff says members have to evaluate whether the facts show evidence of bri

there was no tom harken fighting for those people back then.peal a month later. and the appeal was held in the great hall of ellis island. but there was very little hope. because the rules were clear. but hope actually walked into that great hallway. by the grace of god. in the form of a judge who also had but one arm. and that one armed judge looked at the one armed boy and said i'm going to let you in. but i want you to make something of your life. and he did. that boy was my grandfather. and he did, and he spent 50 years working in a factory doing what immigrants and workers have always done. they did back then and they're doing today. they built this country. just like my other grandfather did who built ships in the docks of jersey city, new jersey, until he fell off one of them and broke his back. or just like my dad did. who was a 60-year member of the brotherhood of electrical workers, which is a terrific union, by the way. that union took really care of us growing up. he worked with his hands every day. and he told me a very valuable po

. >> the longest and largest piece in fremont harkens to long ago. it's based on a 1907 photo of a train that used to run through nearby niles canyon. a rustic time before the suburbs sprouted. some families here still have links to that area. >> has fremont changed? >> it has. it's too fast and too busy. >> takes you a half hour to get across town now. >> arnold, his wife kathie, their home grown and married, 69 years. >> they said it wouldn't last. >> they still live in the house they built in 1958 with a mortgage of $65 a month in what was once a walnut grove on walnut avenue. how times have changed. >> i think the best days we had was like in the 50s. >> times when they raised their kids. >> no. >> now those kids have taken over and continued the trucking company their family built from scratch with sweat and toil in 1946. they're like a new set of treads on experienced wheels. >> does fremont fit with san francisco? >> no. >> it's a big city but it's also a small town. >> and freemont is a changing town. just sample the local restaurants. >> ind

but this harkens back to parkland where the shooter did escape the campus and leave and was caught later by patrol officers, i think it was coral springs pd, but they caught him walking down the street. he had gone to a mcdonald's. this guy maybe didn't get that far. deputies were in hotter pursuit of him and he might have, you know, dropped the backpack trying to escape and got in there. it's interesting that he's dressed all in black. look, some people dress all in black. there's nothing wrong with that. but when you get into a shooter, sometimes it can be an indicator of preparation. when you have the backpack, you're all in black. certainly you have guns. so you've thought about it, you've prepared for it. then the time of day of the attack right when school begins is another indicator that he came prepared. so this is a guy preparing, probably a student or a former student at the school. not for shower, though. we don't know for sure. the deputies and detectives will have find that out. if he's underage, you know, where did he acquire the guns. it's been my personal experience and i

him thank you the balance to the chairman i want to follow up on this cruise line question and also harken back to something you were asked by a minority counsel earlier arrest a couple questions do you think you could have done more to push back against the smear campaign. and. i'm not suggesting this is what the cause was getting at but sometimes victims are asked or are you responsible for your own victimization what would you say to people who say isn't it kind of your fault i'm basser you didn't fight your own smear harder. well i think that. you know i've been a foreign service officer for a long time and just like the military we have our own culture we have our own kind of chain of command so to speak and i did everything that i could to. you know to to address these issues and ask the state department to do what i felt was the right thing which was support me when when it was important to do so because it was also about supporting the policy. i think it was for others to stand up for me quite agree represent of stuff i like. thank you since the chairman has gaveled out all of my c

bmw faces is more than mercedes and the top story does go into a great motto detail as to why it harkensouple of magazines reviews these were a performance oriented customers who had zero to 60 and that's something elon musk to his credit has made a big focus of how he hypes his cars. he has talked a lot about performance and made electric cars sexy, which is something other car companies haven't been able to do. taylor: talk to me about the other reasons and owner would switch. it is because the brand is cool or is it environmental reasons? if you are making the switch, why are you doing so? shelly: it's inter--- craig: there are a lot of things in this latest version of tom's survey that are interesting takeaways. i think the idea that significant portion, i think it was 55%, of people who answer the survey said that elon musk himself factored into the decision on whether or not to buy a tesla and by the model three. that is pretty high and there are some great quotes in the story about the idea that one of the participants in the survey fordo idea who the head of is, the only reason h

helping him were among others top harken, michael harrington, toy moffitt, george miller in the house and kennedy and george mcgovern in the senate. these were all democrats. which cut off aid to any government that grossly violated human rights unless the president determined that such aid would directly benefit the needy. the following year, teddy kennedy directly targeted chile, marking the first time the congress ended military aid to another government because of human rights. one chilean magazine called kennedy the most dangerous foreign adversary of the pinochet regime. letelier worked in this environment at the institute for policy studies, one of the most influential human rights organizations in the country. he met with top state department officials. he taught at american university. he lunched with senators. angela davis once came to his house. joan baez was a friend. most important, letelier became a unifying for chilean exiles numbering in the hundreds of thousands worldwide. he also convinced holland's dock workers federation to boycott the handling of chilean goods and

it harkens back to 1971 and 1972 as well. dr.king about the foothills of the cold war in a zero-sum modern relationship. richard haas, next. ♪ francine:francine: can last couple of seconds we had breaking news from dow jones reporting china has invited u.s. trade negotiators for more talks. jones, china'sw move sent an invitation to lighthizer and mr. mnuchin. i'm delighted to be joined by one of the experts when it comes haasade relations, richard , council of foreign relations president. ambassador, thanks for joining us. that possible breaking news that china has invited u.s. trade negotiators to talk. will they achieve anything? richard: it's a question of when or if they get this modest deal. they will probably get it. it won't make much of a difference. the bulk of the trading relationship, not to mention the bulk of the overall relationship , will not be determined by minimal trade deal. francine: will it help u.s. farmers and is not why president trump once the deal for the phase one to mark a little relief -- phase one?

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graywith what you are saying harkening back to when immigrants landed on ellis island it should be an burned privilege rather than anything else but i'm curious you talk about the criminals and the bad guys. you have any statistics or numbers about how crime rates change as these illegal immigrants cross the border? >> all you've got to do is look at the facts speak for themselves. look at the monstrosities in the horrific acts occurring in mexico and it's happening in against our borders. you look at that in the new book and see that there is no actual way to determine how many illegals are coming into the country and we are not apprehending. we have the numbers up what we apprehend that we don't have the numbers of who gets away. one thing i did agree with senator sanders on is he said immigration is not a threat to our nation. it isn't that what he needs to understand his illegal immigration is and i don't understand why these individuals are having such a hard time with english-language. there's a big difference between illegal and legal immigration and that's coming from an immig

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he said there was a long history of writers writing anonymously in american politics harkening back tonding fathers and the decision, the debate to ratify the constitution. essentially the message there being that they wanted people to focus on the message and not the messenger. and during this hour-long question and answer session, the message was very clear. this was a white house in chaos and this author is not done exposing it. there is more to come. those words from the person identifying themselves as anonymous, who wrote the new white house insider book titled "a warning." the book publisher confirming the author answered questions last night on reddit defending their decision to remain anonymous and suggesting that president trump will know his or her identity by the 2020 election. i will not keep my identity shrouded in secrecy forever, anonymous writes. i'm not worried to use my own name. donald trump has not heard the last of me. anonymous claims to be a senior official in the trump administration. and last september, a person identified as the same official captivated the n

another hard chart to read, but i'm harkening the concept here. our h.r. department has developed h.r. dash boards, which are -- which this particular one shows racial demographics of our labor market in purple, with the racial demographics of our staff shown in green. we have this is the department-wide graphic. but we can also do this by division. and so you know, if there is an opening in capital, you know, we can show folks, here's what you have right now and this is where you may -- you'll want to consider increasing your diversity. we also have this for age, gender, and geographic distribution. so this new tool really allows us to quickly and easily see where we are with regard to the market. we've done lots of other great things internally. dice which is our own internal staff. it's pay time, but people who volunteer to participate and they produced eight equity workshops last year. which were attended by more than 200 unique staff members. and it was a great success. we were going to start up the next one in fy20 in november. we're going to start i

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and i think it's very solid advice coming from a very personal point of view that, you know, and it harkensk to a different time where a president -- i mean, trump defeated bill clinton's wife and he just gave him good advice because it's good for the country. we don't see a lot of that anymore. >> it was also in the context of what happened. president clinton was saying you can get something done on guns which the white house isn't even going to try anymore after he said he was going to work with congress on the background checks and the like. >> there's plenty of opportunity. they could have passed a universal background check in a nanosecond. >> because republicans follow what he says he wants to do. he's the person that could actually do it. >> absolutely. the absurdity of this whole thing, i was in the pennsylvania legislature and we passed universal background checks then for private sales of pistols. it was not -- and pennsylvania is a pro-firearm state. we did it. they could simply adopt the pennsylvania law. and it was passed by republican legislature with tom bridge as governor. i

delayed the opening ceremony of the world trade organization meeting, and a stunning protest that harkenback to the great civil rights marches of the 1960's." december 3 i wrote -- going "it did not matter to these diehard kids the city had been turned into an armed camp and was firmly under the control of an army of cops, state troopers, national guard. they had been studying -- stunningly successful in giving a black i into an obscure organization and had alerted millions of americans to the enormous power the wto wields in the world and turn it into a household name. as i said, most people did not even know about the wto before these protests occurred. you cameana shiva, from india to be part of the protest, but you did not really know the level of protest.t. you had already been laying a foundation with the i have g, the international forum on globalization, giving speeches about this. and for people to understand the wto, the idea that a transnational organization could be used to overturn the laws of democratically legislature -- democratically elected legislatures, say some city c

and it does harken to a quote from a former republican president that i imagine you're fond of.sevelt said once -- and i'm going to read the quote. to announce there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but a morally treasonable to the american public. that's quite a quote. >> yeah. and it seems applicable to the times in which we live. but look, it's frustrating. facts don't matter to a certain amount of our society. no amount of data and evidence seems to reach some folks where they are so dug in and eager to believe the talking points that they're being provided by their leaders. and their leaders aren't necessarily members of congress. their leaders are largely men with microphones. >> that's a really good point. >> and that also shows once again another victory for vladimir putin just to sow chaos, right? and distrust within the democracy here in the united states. it's just stunning what we continue to see on a daily basis. and the fact you say point blank everybody knows better.

he ruled on a few objections, senator tom harken objected when someone called the senators jurors andgreed they sit on court they're not just jurors, refused to accept limitations on questions by house managers. beyond that he always consulted the senate parliamentaryian. he didn't want to be the guy making substantive rulings and roberts is lyingly to want to make his role as ministerial as possible. >> chief justice john roberts said there are no obama judges there are not trump judges. but he can't be immune from the way this thing is shaping up as a partisan exercise. do you think he relishes this opportunity? do you think he loeths the thought? what do you think is running through his mind as he looks forward? >> i'm sure he dontrellish it. he's so committed to nonpartisanship. but he will take seriously the fact that this is one of only three requirements in the constitution for impeachment. the other being a two-thirds conviction and the fact that everyone is under oath. i think he will want to conduct himself in a way that is as dignified and neutral as possible. he'll want ev

money as we all know dictates lots and lots of stuff, and what it harkens in my mind, but before i go off on a tangent here, there are countries in europe that are more challenged than others financially here and certainly greece as we know has been very, very difficult times. i use greece an example all the time. i tell people we've got to america that because you can take a look, if you go back years, look at egypt, rome, greece. these were fantastic cultures and all three of them now have a tin cup. cannot happen in america? don't tell me it can't happen here. it's happened before and it can happen again. greece is one of those challenges and money is something that people are tempted, greatly tempted when you hold out cash. and what went through my mind when i read that story was also, gosh, you think it's that in europe, you ought to go to africa. i'll tell you, their handful of little bit of money goes a long way for them in africa. >> quick follow-up before to affect over to mike. when we ask a european nation that all repurchased a lot of huawei equipment and were saying we mo

the william rehnquist court re-embraced the idea that, and this harkens back, it has echoes of chieftice hughes reacting to the new deal legislation. there certain prerogative the federal government and local branches have, but it is for the court to say when they go too far, whether infringing in a branch of the federal government or the states and individual rights. we saw during chief justice rehnquist's tenure is a refocusing of a court attention on the relationship between the federal government and the states. host: that being said, will he not know is been over to decisions that really work the balance of powers, that is of course the impeachment trial of present clinton in 1999, and then bush v. gore in 2000. elizabeth: one of the significant duties of a chief justice, he was a big gilbert and sullivan fan. when asked what he did or how he perceived his role presiding at the senate trial, he said you know i did nothing in particular and i did it very well. so i think he did not relish the role. to the point we have been talking about all morning the , issue of where the court

and i harken back to how many tree basins are there in northeast? 46? yeah. >> [off mic] >> yeah. i would be focusing my time on the 3,000 instead of taking down more trees. this is what i have a hard time understanding, especially with it's not a criticism the track record that you have about getting your job done. and i know that there are hurdles and things that you can't overcome funding, et cetera. i'm trying hard not to be critical of your department. i'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. but is there a way to postpone this project to its fullest extent in consideration of filling in tree basins with more greenery that will mitigate the environmental impact or be proactive against mitigating the environmental impact of tearing down all these trees? that's a question. >> i hear you on the question. and really for us and carla emphasized it but we should reemphasize it in 50 years of neglect or zero commitment to maintain the urban forest, public works maintained one-third of the street trees and five years ago we were relinquishing the trees we did maintain and the

in choosing this name for the occasion james harkens not only to national days of mourning held after assassinations of president john f. kennedy and the reverend martin luther king, he also reached back to apus's eulogy on king philip and like apus, when james's moment came heroes up before protesters from across indian country, media and onlookers and deliver the inflammatory speech that massachusetts had tried to suppress. he began with the.that assertion that he had the right to the dignity of humanity despite society's efforts to diminish him and his people. i speak to you as a man, he stressed, a wampanoag man, a proud man, not of my ancestry, my accomplishments won by strict parental direction, despite his family and community suffering poverty and discrimination, two social and economic diseases. he acknowledged to his white listeners that thanksgiving is a time of celebration for you, celebrating the beginnings of the white men in america. for james and the wampanoags, the day had doleful implications. it is with a heavy heart, he explains, that i look back on what happened t

and it seemed her testimony today in indicting the conspiracy theories was harkening break to what she was hearing in communications from the president, where it says "she's going to go through some things" but marie yovanovitch. those were conspiracy theories about yovanovitch being on the wrong side. she was on the right sigde on corruption if you are against it. if you are following u.s. stated policy and the policy of the new president, zelensky, you're against corruption, as was yovanovitch. there is so much evidence that the white house has put into the public record. >> right. >> the white house, by putting giuliani in charge of what became the regular channel of u.s./ukrainian regulations, was basically co-signing onto rudy -- what was your word, ambassador -- cockamamie theories. it was a window this morning into what the professionals had to deal with, a president whose mind had been poisoned on ukraine and his right hand guy was more of a court jester of conspiracy theories than a serious policy or legal person in rudy giuliani. >> that's exactly right. as you mentioned, i h

and here, we can see a parade of people harkening back to a very old american tradition of bipartisany expertise. and perhaps there are people on the far margins who didn't buy it. but i think they certainly presented a compelling portrait of people who are not there out of partisanship or ideology. but they're there for their expertise and facts. >> i think one of the important points hill made is people get to see her not only as a professional, an expert, but also as a human, as an american. when she talked -- when she admonished the lawmakers about partisanship and how that is not just making it difficult to get things done in washington but it's eroding american faith in democracy. it really let you know that there was there out of a sense of duty and certainly not out of a sense of helping one side or the other. >> you know, tim, i thought a subplot in the last two weeks was sort of the intersection of donald trump's attack on immigrants, legal and illegal. i mean, the smears against colonel vindman. you know, basically accusing him of espionage on fox news. the smears against h

quigley's line of questioning and harken back to something you were asked earlierment you were asked do you think you could have done more to push back against this smear campaign? and i'm not suggesting this is what the counsel was getting at but sometimes victims are asked aren't you responsible for your own victimization. what would you say to people who say isn't it kind of your fault, ambassador, that you didn't fight your own smear harder? >> well, i think that -- you know, i've been a foreign service officer for a long time. just like the military, we have our own culture, we have our own kind of chain of command so to speak, and i did everything that i could to -- to address these issues and ask the state department to do what i felt was the right thing which was support me when it was important to do so because it was also about supporting the policy. i -- i think it was for others to stand up for me. >> i quite agree. representative? >> thank you. since the chairman has gavelled out all of my colleagues with their unanimous consent, i am going to read for the record many of

i want to harken back for a moment historically to the comprehensive budget agreements that we concluded in the 1990's. the bipartisan agreement of 1990 , the democratic heavy lifting of 1993, at a still important bipartisan agreement in 1997. on the face of it, those budget deals had a good impact. the economy was healthy. we balanced the budget for four year period and paid off $500 billion of the national debt. i wonder if you wish to comment on that, the impact of those budget agreements on our physical health, on our capacity to compensate for a downturn when it came, on our economy generally. you about the ask consequences of not having comprehensive agreements for 20 plus years. we have had massive tax cuts, most recently in 2017 with a net cost of $1.9 trillion to the treasury over 10 years. if you could comment in particular on that question of the kind of slack we have to deal with the downturn. this came during a period of economic recovery. it gave what some people have called a sugar high. where has it left us when a real downturn comes? chair powell: i will briefly comment

the william rehnquist court re-embraced the idea that, and this harkens back, it has echoes of chieftice hughes reacting to the new deal legislation. there are certain prerogatives the federal government and political branches have, but it is for the court to say when they go too far, whether infringing in a branch of the federal government or the states and individual rights. what we saw during chief justice rehnquist's tenure is a refocusing of a court attention on the relationship between the federal government and the states. host: that being said, will he not always you for two decisions that really were the balance of powers? that is of course the impeachment trial of president clinton in 1999, and then bush v. gore in 2000. elizabeth: he said about presiding over the impeachment trial, which was one of the significant duties of a chief justice he was a big gilbert and , sullivan fan. when asked what he did or how he perceived his role presiding at the senate trial, he said you know i did nothing in particular and i did it very well. so i think he did not relish the role. to th

what a loaded question, it harkens back to images of reporters in handcuffs. let me be clear, i'm not in favor of imposing criminal liability for defamation. i'm going to write that down. >> (laughs) >> that's off the record. should the press be restrained also raises another important question, restrained by whom? so i don't really love the way that question is framed but let me answer it this way. >> we wanted a big turnout in our defense. (laughs) >> i do believe press accountability is incredibly important. a free responsible press is vital to our democratic republic. it's vital to informed electorate. a responsible press is one that is self-restrained. rational actors behave in a way to avoid negative consequences, both social and economic. the press has run amok due in no small part to the fact that there are zero consequences for misconduct. trust and confidence in the press is at an all-time low. the specter of real civil liability with real economic damages, if those lawyers like lee and my friend kate in the confines of their attorney-client privileg

. >> it harkens back to the conversation ambassador volker testified about when he urged ukraine not to investigate or prosecute poroshenko and the reply from mr. yermak, oh, like you want us to do with the bidens and clintons. they're sophisticated enough actors to recognize when we're saying do as we say, not as we do, are they not? >> yes, sir. >> you also in your testimony and i was struck by this today, when even after the aid is lifted, ukraine still felt pressured to make these statements and you and ambassador taylor were worried they were going to do it on cnn. and you said that ambassador taylor, addressed the importance of staying out of u.s. politics and hoped no interview was planned mr. yermak did not answer but shrugged in resignation as if to indicate they had no choice. in short, everyone thought there was going to be an interview and that the ukrainians believed they had to do it. you're acknowledging, i think, mr. holmes, are you not, that ukraine very much felt pressured to undertake these investigations that the president or rudy giuliani and ambassador sondland

in the turks will profess interest in counterterrorism that their concern is far less and so this harkens back to the issue of prisons and who takes them over and you think they would not be interested in holding the european foreign fighters. so the emphasis we have had on our partners for a long time will be challenged. >> thank you. you touched on turkey a little bit they announced yesterday with a foreign fighters over the next 24 hours you touched on the european partners and the lack of willingness to take people back. >> i don't know the answer to the question but what we have seen from our european partners is some concern they stopped stripping citizens are how this kabuki dance will shake out. >> concentrating in the middle east and right now in the hemisphere to have massive riots with the connection and the iranian affairs do you see a connection there or we just wait and see what happens. >> i don't have anything to say i do more regional bureaus. >> here in the back. >> are you seeing any evidence of outright russian support with these roshan leave e-mail motivated violent e

money as we all know dictates lots and lots of stuff and what it harkened in my mind, but before i go off on a tan vent here, there are countries in europe that are more challenged than others financially and certainly greece as we know has been through some very, very difficult times. i use greece as an example all the time when i tell people that we've got to hold america tight because you can take -- look at -- if you go back years, i mean, you look at egypt, you look at rome, greece, i mean, these were fantastic cultures and all three of them now have a tin cup. so can that happen in america? don't tell me it can't happen here. it's happened before and it can happen again. greece certainly is one of those challenges and money is something that is a -- people are tempted, greatly tempted when you hold out cash and what went through my mind when i read that story was also, gosh, you think it's bad in europe, you ought to go to africa. their handful of a little bit of money goes a long way for them in africa. >> when we ask a european nation in a has already purchased a lot of huawei

it harkens back to the cohen hearing where he said this president isn't someone who gives direct orders in that way. he makes these oblique suggestions and expects things to get done. we have heard that from cohen. so it's not surprising to hear it applied in this same way. i think the other takeaway from my conversations with democratic members is, based on the sondland hearing, is they're not going to take the bait on trying to draw this out and call in some of these bigger-name witnesses. i was very curious to see if all the references to pompeo, if gordon sondland's allusions to giving john bolton rudy giuliani's phone number would be enough that some of these democrats might say it's worth it to draw things out even a little bit longer if necessary to get those folks in. and all of the democrats i talked to either deferred to adam schiff's judgment on this or said, you know what, we've got enough. we have what we need. the case is being made just fine without getting into this protracted legal back and forth in the court system or trying to fight things out further to get those fol

however what devon nunez was trying to do by implying that the witness was trying to take the 5th is to harken back to trials or inquiries into mafia figures into figures with connections to organized crime because taking the 5th is what a kind of gangster would do would hold up in front of that kind of set of committee so again i think there is a desire to create the appearance of wrongdoing or a vision even when it's not appropriate to the situation thank you very much indeed to geoffrey kemp a service and i'm sure we'll talk to you again as in hearings continue not sit about to hardy's or castro for the moment tell us a little bit about what's happening now and the people paints a picture of what's happening on capitol hill not. sure so right now we're still waiting for the 2nd round of hearings to begin and meanwhile i think people are still digesting what we heard from this morning arguably the star witness of the 2 this morning was alexander then when he is the ukrainian expert on the national security council and he had quite an interesting background to highlight he started his testimo

it harkens back to the conversation and bester volcker testified about when he urged crane not to investigate or prosecute poor shank oh and the reply from mr mock was oh you mean like you want us to do with the bidens on the clintons they're sophisticated enough actors to recognize when we're saying do as we say not as we do are they not yes are you also in your testimony and i was struck by this new today. when even after the aid is lifted ukraine still felt pressure to make these statements and the u.n. ambassador taylor were worried that they were going to do it on c.n.n. and you said. that a master tailor again stress the importance of staying on the u.s. politics and said he hoped no interviews the interview was planned mr earmark did not answer but shrugged in resignation as if to indicate that they had no choice in short everyone thought there was going to be an interview and that the craniums believed they had to do. fear and knowledge ing i think mr holmes or not that ukraine if very much felt pressured to undertake these investigations that the president to reduce any and and and o

so this is why i harken back to the issue of prisons and who's going to take them over and how concerned the turks are going to be. i think that they would not be interested in holding a ton of european foreign fighters. they would want to get them back to european countries, how exactly is that going to work, if it's going to work? so the sort of focus and emphasis we've had on our sdf partners for a very long time is going to -- that's going to be challenged with the turkish incursion. >> more in the back. >> hi, thank you. you kind of touched on turkey a little bit. i wanted to push on that. they announced yesterday that they'll begin to send home foreign fighters in the next 24 hours possibly. what does that mean? you touched a bit on the european partners and their lack of willingness to take people back. will the u.s. step in? is there a plan? what are we doing? >> i don't know the answer to the question. what we have seen is from our european partners some concern here. they've started stripping citizenship so they don't have to take them back. how this is going to shake out, i do

harken back to what i said about the evolving nature of the threat. it's all about individual and networks. and as we've seen with homegrown violent extremist they can be extraordinarily difficult to uncover these individuals. the haystack is continuing to grow and the needles are increasingly subtle. we are seeing this problem across the western world for partners may be dealing with thousands or tens of thousands of radicalized individuals and subjects of interest. that brings me to theme seven, kind of a rhetorical question. i'll take you on a bit of the side road. what does america want us to do in the realm of discovery in uncovering individuals? terrorism like all transnational threats poses unique challenges because it blurs concepts like foreign and domestic. as such our efforts to ensure public safety can quickly bump up against issues of privacy. part of the government response after 9/11 is to provide nctc with very broad authority to receive terrorism information. in my opinion that was an extremely good move with that came extensive overs