harry reid is good at it.y if you want to fund this, then cut this pork. then they can say he stood up for the bridge to nowhere rather than this paying for the bill. >> jeanne, the american people are sick of the political gamesmanship, as tim puts it. do both sides have something to gain or lose? >> i think your point is well taken in that the public is tired of this. and congress knows these measures are important. they are important to the recovery. both sides agree that they do have stimlative effect. so eventually, they probably will come to some other way of paying for this. how they come up with this is unclear right now. but they can propose some across the board cuts that are fuzzy, but still count, and get these things passed. so then when we go into the following year, in all likelihood, we will see the measures, the payroll tax reduction and unemployment benefits extended. but there will be the posturing on the hill because they want both to pass them. and to have the political points to take into

as long as harry reid is faced with mitch mcconnell in the filibuster he can't move bills. who has had his foot on the neck of his country's economy and the polls now show that americans understand that republicans are willing to sacrifice the health of our economy to have political advantage. >> i wish we had more time. congressman jim mcdermott in seattle. congressman robert dole here in our studio. thank you great to see you. >>> talking a lot about 2012. today see lection day trending on twitter. today's tweet of date comes from you. writing, don't forget to go out and vote. occupy that voting booth. another tweet. we know what you have to do. go forth and do it. kent state writes, go tout your local precinct and vote affecting your education, safety and your pocketbook. [ male announcer ] want to achieve more with your money? pnc virtual wallet gathers your spending and saving in one place. credit and debit purchases, checks, bills, and other financial information. it lets you see the details as well as the big financial picture. so you can do more with your money. see

and harry reid is right that the legislature is not going to raise taxes. we are going to get $1.20 trillion in spending restraints either as a committee or through the sequester so taxpayers will win. >> to follow-up on that, there's the argument that the only way to achieve real savings for this grand bargain but there would be multi-trillion dollars in savings would be through a combination of getting new revenue, which in a substantial amount would only come through a tax increase, and cuts, and that that grand bargain will rally -- really help our economy by protecting our credit rating and steering our economy back on track and giving the financial world some confidence that we can straighten out our budget. how do you answer that? >> that is the sales pitch of the modern democratic party. that is what they set in 1982 and 1990. the only would it help the economy is big deficit reduction. when democrats do this, one of the things to watch is we use to talk about spending as the problem because spending is the problem. spending has jumped from 20% of g

. >> want to know how out of touch harry reid.child ad for convicted child molesters and sex offenders. what else do you need to ne about harry reid. >> connection. harry reid tabled all amendments including one banning viagra for sex offenders. >> you were actually going to produce an ad with it to try to explain where did they get that viagra stat, not just asking it written down where you or i tells them he got it from s bill da, da, da. >> we're trying to take the complexities understood by people who watch your program but not understood by most and digest it down for folks who don't pay attention to the legislative process. and that large harry reid head and that scary sound in the background. in the end our young woman actually has a headache in all that noise they have been offering her in that ad. >> you have two goals. one is you're hoping to get the ad makers to get geuilted into being more honest. >> yes. >> and you are taking us on demon sheet. we thought it was humorous but it were concerned that while we may have un

[laughter] harry reid levitt. the place was deserted when i left. gwen: so much for deadlines. >> tomorrow's first meeting is a conference call so. these deadlines aren't even -- the sense of urgency we saw about the debt limit is utterly absent. gwen: what is this across the board cut? >> it's a year away. they have a year to figure this out and that's why nothing is happening. this -- after we dealt with the threat of a government shutdown in april and rushed to get an agreement on the budget and after we dealt with the threat of the first default on our debt in august, they set up a supercommittee but they specifically said we're not going to have a cataclysmic backstop. we want to give you time to work this out. and they put the punishment for failure in january 2013. so yes, we have draconian cuts coming. >> but there were other things that the committee was supposed to deal with that's not related to the deficit. the payroll tax, some unemployment benefits. in fact, the payroll tax expansion and extension is really important to the white house

john boehner did not get involved, harry reid did not get involved. i suspect knowing how washington works they were involved in advising and consenting and doing play-by-play leaded night but they did not publicly get involved in these conversations. the white house stayed away for the leaders knowing how important this issue is to stay away from this work. was that a good thing, was that a smart choice? >> that is being little unfair. i had seen reports that they sat down and try to make this work. the president wants jobs. congress has done nothing about jobs. the republicans have no jobs planned. he is being the president and went to asia and spent 10 days with people who can help us create jobs by buying our stuff, that is the sensible thing to do. i reject that criticism. i do think the president is doing what he is supposed to do and john boehner and harry reid did what they could do. the problem is john boehner who i think has potential as a good speaker cannot control his caucus. he is afraid of the members of the tea party and that is the pr

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harry reid really put a firm point on this. as you know, grover norquist who is the anti-tax cheerleader who gets so many members to sign a pledge not to raise taxes and harry reid said the republicans should impeach him to reduce influence. the leader eric kantor was asked and he said it's not about him, but the pledge that republican members have made to their own constituents. with all of that stew, what it comes down to is can they get it done? many predictions they won't and many are trying to say they will get it done. they will put off the pumpkin pie and the turk to get something done. >> eight days and counting. thank you. >> you bet. >> stay with us. surprise, surprise. the cain train makes a stop in the day's top line. >> that's a different line. i got to go back. [ male announcer ] just how many appliances are on our wish lists? 'cause this season, the timing couldn't be better. right now, we can get those black friday prices without fighting through all those black friday crowds, which means we can do more this yea

. >> why didn't harry reid look two steps down the road instead of one? >> that's a very good question and i don't have the answer. >> this is checkers and it should be chess. thank you. i think at some point, the president becomes lord of the flies here, not president of the united states. because these people don't look like worth leading right now. thank you, howard fineman and chris cillizza. we'll have the president's statement on the super committee coming up at 5:45. >>> coming up, think mitt romney is a flip-flopper? well, he is, of course. wait until you catch this one. newt gingrich is explaining why he changed his positions on just about everything from health care to global warming to t.a.r.p. and big shocker, every one of this has changes are to the currently popular conservative primary voter and caucus voter opinion. big surprise, newt. you're catching on. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. ess pro. premier of the packed bag. you know organization is key... and so is having a trusted assistant. and you...rent from national. because

>> kimberly: harry reid agrees with bob. american people are tired of the elected leaders listen to extreme voices in the party instead of voices of reason. disappointed that the republicans never found the courage to ignore the tea party extremists and millionaire lobbyists like norquist and -- >> bob: exactly. >> dana: this is my point. the democrats poll tested this line to death. toomey, kyl and portman put on the table is defiance of grover norquist. >> bob: defied it, true. >> dana: what is harry reid saying? it doesn't make sense. >> bob: can i get the poll to show what the american people think of this? do we have that? i want to show how american people think of millionaires. >> dana: oh, please. >> bob: you is it around here as if you are somehow -- >> bob: wait, pay attention. if you have something to pontificate here when two-third of the american people want a position. >> eric: what number do you think the millionaires and billionaires should be taxed at? >> bob: 60%. >> eric: if you raise tax rate of millionai

>> are you saying harry reid will allow a republican bill to come to the floor for a vote? >> should the republicans fight tore this and demand it happen? >> yes. >> do you thing we can get, if they fight for it, accountability, responsibility, and honesty in budgeting? >> no. not with obama. >> is it worth the effort? >> question. >> i think the people have spoken. >>neil: loudly. one could argue, well, these folks are more the exception than the rule. how do you counter that? >>guest: well, you counter that by saying if you have no faith in your government, to tell you the truth, you are losing faith in democracy itself. and number two, the public has the right to know the truth and washington has the responsibility to tell them the truth. and it should be a partisan issue. the fact is, senator sessions, the ranking member on the budget committee, this should not just be his legislation but the democrats should jump on board but as you her the comments there, voters have for faith in harry reid's actually following through on this, so, here is the message from the america

harry reid is spot on. washington democrats are finally speaking out against the republican mission to make president obama a one-termer. it shouldn't have taken this long, though. tea party senator jim demint, he laid out the playbook about 2 1/2 years ago. >> if we are able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> mitch mcconnell made this incredible statement one year ago tomorrow. >> our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny president obama a second term. >> so the president, as we all know, has never really played the victim. he's been on the offensive fighting for middle-class americans. he knows republicans are only hurting the american people. >> and when 72% of the american people support the ideas in this bill, 72% of americans agree with this, republicans, democrats, and independents, there's no excuse for 100% of washington republicans to say no. >> it's pretty basic stuff, isn't it? and it is crystal clear republicans hate president obama

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now house republicans are asking, will president obama pick up the phone and call senator harry reid up for an up or down vote in the senate. megyn: we are hoping to have newt gingrich here shortly. plus ambassador john bolton in three minutes on the growing talk of armed conflict between is rate and iran. remember this several-proclaimed superhero. he came on as our guest in "kelly's court." right after an arrest led to his unmasking. could a brand-new development have phoenix jones playing real life crime fighter more often? perhaps even full time? [ rge ] psst. constated? phillips' caplet use gnesium, an ingredient that works more naturally wityour colon than stimulant xatives, for fective reli of constipation without cramps. thanks. [ professor ] good morning students. today, we're gonna... megyn: a sunday school teacher taking the stand in the sentencing phase of a man in a deadly home invasion in connecticut. that defendant is facing the death penalty for killing a mother and her two daughters in 2007. mortgage rates dropping again. airlines expect full flights this thanksgivin

now, the democrats -- ok, if harry bird, harry bird, how about harry reid, if harry reid, harry reid were harry bird, we'd be somewhere. big bird. if harry reid got together with the democrats in the senate and passed a bill that did all the things that people like to imagine the modern democratic party is capable of, the fant sifts believe that the modern democratic party is capable of, then we'd have something to look at. bring me a bill, bring me a bill. pass something that -- [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> we're heading over to the house for a series of three votes. and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the question is will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill as amended. >> mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman rise? >> i ask for a roll call vote. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman ask for the yeas and nays. >> the yeas -- yes. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas an nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will r

what is harry reid and the democrats afraid of? >> all those things are nice, they're important, but if we want to grow the economy right now then we have to think bigger. >> more troublesome for the president may be tuesday coming in a new book by former president bill clinton, who writes "mr. obama and other democrats failed to craft an effective message in 2010," according to "the washington post." clinton entered his re-election year in a much better place than this president. in october of his third year in office, the unemployment rate for clinton was just 5.5%. for george w. bush it was slightly higher, 6%. the closest comparison might be ronald reagan, who at this point had unemployment of 8.88%. with unemployment now at 9%, this president is heading into 2012 in very dangerous shape. >> when i came into office, the u.s. economy had contracted by 9%. a little over a year later, the economy was growing by 4%. it's been growing ever since. now is that good enough? absolutely not. >> now, despite high unemployment ronald reaga

speaker boehner and, also, senator majority leader harry reid spent 40 minutes together talking aboutompetent. they have a lot invested in this. it was congress' idea about how to figure out how to deal with the massive debt problem at this point before the cameras today. speaker boehner was bipartisan in his tone. take a listen. >> i believe all the members of the joint select committee on deficit reduction, so-called super committee, both democrats and republicans have done good work and worked very hard but there isn't an agreement. and i'm convinced that if there is an agreement it can, in fact, pass. >>reporter: the tone from leadership this afternoon, republicans in the senate sounded like failure is not an option and senator harry reid the democratic leader sounded very pessimistic. >>shepard: there were file works on the hill over the white house promise that all u.s. combat troops in iraq will be home for the holidays. the defense secretary panetta said he has faith in iraq's new government. did you hear that? the defense secretary panetta has "faith in iraq's new government.

what you are seeing on the senate floor, harry reid doing this for political purposes.y chose republicans extending the tax cut. it will appear democratic ads in 2012. what you are going to see is a compromise with a lot of folks where they feel on the issue sometime around december 23rd or before christmas. that's how they like to do these things. >> thank you very much for the latest. also the president is certainly taking his message on the issue out to the folks in pennsylvania. thank you, luke. the effort to remove wisconsin's governor hit a milestone. will the republican who angered so many in his own state when he came up with the anti-union bill be forced out of office. the state's party just how many have they been able to obtain in 12 days. the answer after the break. it's that time of the year to snap up the box sets you like to give out to friends and family. coming up, why elvis costello is pleading with fans not to buy his limited edition set. he said the price is too much. >>> clid cloudy for american airlines. the amr corporation has plummeted and a stag

harry reid, for example, all the bills passed, and one which is cut cap and balance, can't even get a out and says this is an obstructnist congress. >> you have hit it right on right there. we need presidential leadership. it's very frustrating with harry reid in charge of the senate, we are ready, you mentioned the freshman conservative senators, we need presidential leadership to cut spending in washington, to get our economy moving by actually getting the government out of the way of our private sector job creators, and finally making sure that our country is protected from terrorists. i serve on the armed services committee and i trust mit romney if he is our president to make sure america is safe. >> let me ask you the same question i asked the governor. it seems george will, rush limbaugh, he seems to be having some trouble with conservatives. why? why do you think that is? and what do you want to say to them? >> well, what i would say to them is this, that governor romney has the experience that we need. he's been a successful business person, he's been an effective governor, h

. >> that's why we are here today, again, trying to tell harry reid, please, join us and bring these measures to the floor for an up or down vote. if they don't pass, fine. what is harry reid and the democrats afraid of in the senate as far as our jobs agenda are concerned? >> now, the bottom line on all of this is that the president's jobs bill still seems to be going nowhere fast right now. we have got 9% unemployment as you mentioned. that's is very dangerous for a president. the closest peril would be to ronald reagan at 8.8% unemployment. 40 million jobs in 1984 and got reelected. 2012 not expected to create a lot of jobs at all, shep. >> shepard: big breaking news on the global front right now, ed, of course, is the greek prime minister, socialist prime minister of greek who along with his party survived a confidence vote. what are we to make of that big picture. >> the big picture, white house, others around the world are going to see that as an important first step but just a first step. let's not forget that the greek prime minister a few days ago through this whole debt dea

mitch mcconnell harry reid were in a back and forth over the bill accusing each other of playing politics. >> they deliberately designed this bill to fail. so the truth is democrats are more interested in building a campaign message than in rebuilding roads and bridges. >> their goal is to do everything they can to drag down this economy. to do anything they can to focus attention negatively on the president of the united states in hopes he can get my jobs perhaps. i would say, we can stay here all day. i will get the last word. >> he can always have the last word, but i would say with all due respect to my friend, he just made another campaign speech. >> this is the second piece of the jobs plan. the senate has blocked the previous bill that failed. it would have provided $35 billion to states for teachers and first responders. it's clear none of the pieces is going to make it through the senate. >>> with 19 days until the deficit deadline, the super committee appears to be at a standstill. sources say no additional meetings for the panel are currently scheduled. each party sent pieces o

senate majority leader harry reid says he doesn't see any sign of compromise yet but aides also say there's not a stalemate. both sides, democrats, republicans on this committee, working very hard to try to find a solution. the committee is seeking $1.2 trillion to cut from the budget. and the arguments haven't really changed much from last spring. democrats to want see more revenue coming in. republicans fear that could mean tax hikes. they actually want to drop tax rates and cut medicare and medicaid, cut those rates down. corporate tax rates down to 25% as the top rate. now, the committee itself hasn't met in about two weeks but lots of meetings going on behind closed doors, including with house speaker john boehner who sat down with democrats and republicans yesterday. he says if they come up with a deal, he'll push it through. lynn? >> tracie potts for us in washington, thank you. >>> well, elsewhere, wall street protesters in new york have been allowed back into lower manhattan zuccotti park, a day after they were cleared out in a late-night raid by city police. this time, however, oc

. >>> last night on the ed show, steve israel was asked if he agrees with harry reid's accusations that republicans are trying to drag down the economy just to cripple president obama's reelection campaign. >> they have laid off teachers. they have laid off cops. they have laid off firefighters. every republican voted to lay off construction workers. all in the pursuit of laying off a president. it is a reckless political agenda. they are sabotaging the economy. what should make us angry is they are sabotaging the economy to protect their friends. their special interest buddies. they are willing to kick the middle class in the stomach to give a leg up to oil executive companies. so sabotaging the economy is one thing, but sabotaging to enrich special interest friends is even worse. if they really cared about the middle class, they would have given us one vote on our measure to deny those that $40 billion in tax subsidies to the richest oil companies on earth. they wouldn't have tried to end medicare for senior citizens. they don't care. >> lean forward at 8:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. >>>

>> that would be the grover norquist to convince the republicans to sgn a no new taxes' pledge harry reidke he's a little depressed t there. >> the only ray of light, as ruth marcus pointed out in "the washington post," is that a few of these republicans are backing off the grover norquist pledge. you of the super committee guys are now edging away, and there is never going to be a deal unless repubcans give up that pledge. >> what if they do not reach an agreement by wednesday? >> could be really bad. we could getucked into the war tax of the european debt crisis our bond ratings would be downgraded again. we see no particularar way out. the republicans and the folks at ththe defense department will be yeing ababout their pets. -- cuts. there would be a tax increase come the binning of 2013. the bush tax cutwould go into place -- i mean, would go away, and we would be paying the same taxes. washington used to be a place where deadlines actually concentrated the minds. i'm beginning to thinkhey just don't. >> the federal government will be in business at least until december 16 because th