your book and harry truman in 1950.video clip] harry: i'm going to tell you how we're not fighting communist. we're not forming our fine f.b.i. into a gestapo secret police. that's what some people would like to do. we're not going to try to control what our people say and read and think. [end of video clip] brian: that was 1950. executive order 9835 from march 1, 1947, harry truman as president and issues the executive order whereas it's a vital importance that persons employed in the federal service to be complete and unwavering loyalty to the united states and jump to part 1. one, there should be a loyalty investigation of every person entering the civilian department and agency of the executive branch of the federal government. it goes on and on. but what was this about, put this in context. david: it wasn't just the federal government, there were loyalties going down through the state governments, that the boards of education, teachers in states were ordered to sign loyalty oaths and many were refused and were fire

and harry truman and the democrats were caught in a place basically had been ways g with it in variousver since, which is the conundrum, how do you uphold the civil liberties, which are at the heart of the american not be y, and yet accused of being soft on whatever. communism, or the enemies within and without, and so on. period,know, during that i hadn't seen that statement before, thanks for showing it, went e that and he also the other way. they were trying to find their way through this difficult period. brian lamb: i want to ask you, further on in this executive of his his is one points, what would happen with this today? each department and agency shall appoint one or more loyalty boards. not less than f three representatives of the department of agency concerned, hearing urpose of loyalty cases arising within such department or agency david maraniss: that's chilling, isn't it? specially when you think about how that could be -- how not misused during that period, and there is -- there of that, that aren't even in the book, like the avender scare, where they went after gay and l

, since 1952, when harry truman says it is time now that the war is over , you guys start doing more for your defense. but the way you get them to do more in the defense is to be part of the solution, not to only point to them and say they are the problem. so that's one thing. this idea of american leadership is really fundamental in how do you have coalitions behave in a much more effective way. and that gets to the issue of democracy, as i think nick points out. if the united states embraces those who are questioning democracy, then more and more country say coming in know what? maybe it is ok for me to move in that direction. it sort of starts to eats away at the structure of the institution. how do you lead in nato? you can only do it by example. that is not the european union. nobody can be thrown out of nato . the treaty does not allow for it . it is an alliance based on consensus decision-making and the only way to change consensus decision-making is for consensus to agree that you can change decision-making. to if you are trying ostracize the country, let's say for the sake o

here is harry truman in 1950. >> i will tell you how we are not going to fight communism.rare not going to transfer transform our fine fbi into a gestapo secret police as some people would like to do. [applause] we are not going to try to control what our people read, say, and think. brian lamb: that was 1950. you sent me to this. the executive order 9835. david: ok. brian lamb: from march 21, 1947. truman is president and he issues this executive order. where as, it is of vital importance that persons employed in the federal service be of complete and unswerving loyalty to the united states, and i'll jump down to part one. one, there shall be a loyalty investigation of every person entering the city civilian employment of any department or agency of the executive branch of the federal government. it goes on and on. but what was this about, put this in context. david: it was not just the federal government there were , loyalty oaths going all the way down through the state governments, the board of education, teachers in states were ordered to sign loyalty oaths, many of t

a lot of legacies as well, and i think that speaks volumes about who harry truman was. i want to begin by thanking some folks tonight -- the truman library institute who sponsored so much of what we do. they are in nonprofit partner comee are indebted to them for bringing the statue of alice dunnigan to the truman library and for helping us to bring this program tonight. we are gathered to celebrate the life of a pioneering reporter, who was the first african-american female journalist with white house press corp. credentials. significant, and it happened during the truman administration. to introduce her story, i have three panelists, three different speakers who will share a particular perspective on miss nnigan. first we have dr. nancy dawson, she will provide us with the historical context of alice's landmark achievements. she worked for more than 20 years in higher education as both a professor and director of an african-american that his program. her career includes full-time inulty positions universities. she is a published writer. she edited the frederick dougla

magically, roosevelt chose harry truman. know his hand was on that, because he made the selection. i don't know why he saw possibility in truman. he certainly knew of his own frailty, and he didn't expect to live through his third term, certainly didn't expect to survive his fourth, and thought he would resign if the war ended. he wanted to see allied victory through. it's a remarkable thing that he found this amazing man who seemed greater than the sum of his parts. brian: we have about eight minutes left. a couple questions in the back. yes, sir? >> i wonder if you could comment on the suggestion that those who exercise power [inaudible] insofar as that masking, subterfuge impacts ratings. thinking particularly of dwight eisenhower. now apparently we see he was much smarter than a lot of people thought he was. those who operate in a fog, but nonetheless know where they are going. amity: it sounds a little sinister, the way you put it. but a good leader may want to retreat so others may play their roles. that happens freque

harry truman one ones -- was one of his closest friends in the senate. truman came to the senate in 1924 and becomes a member of wheeler's committee. wheeler befriends him, gives him opportunities to chair hearings and be involved in major legislation. and they become fast friends for the rest of their lives. i mentioned he was a close friend of hugh elong. long was often a guest in wheeler's home for dinner. in his relationship with the follette. -- la they became close associates. in 1934, wheeler was engaged in his own reelection campaign in montana. foreaves the campaign trail several days to travel to wisconsin to campaign for a republican, a young bob will lafollette, unheard of at the time. basis on a first name with a candidate for the united states. he said he voted for thomas for president in 1940 rather than vote for a third term for roosevelt. the journalist who won a pulitzer prize for his famous senateabout the covered the senate as a reporter in the early 1940's and he knew wheeler quite well and said he was the most likable man he encounte

in fact, the congress actually subpoenaed harry truman to appear after he left office and he refused and the courts backed him up. this is consistent over many, many decades of juris prudence. the whole thing is a political exercise and jerry nadler is not going to take this to court, he knows if he did, he would be completely humiliated. he wants the grievance, not the substance. >> harris: interesting, i took notes that, harry s. trum an, an interesting example you gave me. i thought this was intriguing question from chris kun khun, let's watch it together. >> if the president believes he was cleared by the mueller probe, then he should act like it and be willing to have mueller, mcgahn and others come testify in front of the house judiciary committee. >> harris: i'm hearing arguments the two have nothing to do with each other, can you explain to me? >> the word is do-over. the democrats have never accepted the election of 2016, they put all of their hopes that robert mueller would find some collusion between the campaign and the russians. they found absolutely none after 22 months

harry truman never forgotten who he was, never forgot he had never gone to college.hen he became president, they advised him things he should do to see more sophisticated. he didn't do any of that. one of my favorite scenes in the truman story -- he was about to appoint general marshall as secretary of state, george marshall. assistance,is young clark clifford, who was very assistants, clifford, who was very bright and very important in truman's presidency, said to him, privately, they were in a meeting at the oval office, said, mr. president, i think you should think twice about that. and truman said, why is that? because if you appoint george marshall as secretary of state, in two or three months, he will start seeing that he will make a better president than you are. make an set, he would better president than i am, but i am the president, and i need the best help i can get your that is a guy who knows who he what his deficiencies are. knows his performance, his past. brian: which one of the books that you wrote sold the most? david: i think, i am not sure, i thin

a short remembrance of harry truman.video clip] david: when eisenhower took the oath and truman walked off the platform, he was right back down on ground, level again, as citizen treatment. -- citizen truman. he had no pension, no allowance for office space, no secret service guards. his only income was his army pension, which was i think $119 a month. brian: since you have said that, i always thought that no other president went home. david: truman once said, i will never forget who i was, where i came from, and where i would go back to. that speaks volumes about who he was. i think we have to understand where people came from. understand the look and smell and feel of the terrain, because it is part of them, part of you, part of me, much more than we realize. harry truman never forgotten who he was, never forgot he had never gone to college. when he became president, they advised him things he should do to see more sophisticated. he didn't do any of that. one of my favorite scenes in the truman story -- he was about to

think about david and harry truman and impact truman biography had on public perception of harry trumanokay so now we're going to go to 2017 survey which had is organizeing principle for our book of collected interviews. what we did rather than arrange aing them chronologically we put them in order excuse me of how they -- fared in our survey so top five as we mention sorry first modern president see how they did. ronald reagan is only one many 2017 that made it into top 10 next up -- george w. bush, 20th spot it will be interesting when we do the next survey at ends of the trump presidency whether or not george h.w. bush moves up at all he's passed away we have three days of celebration in this country of his president city and reminding rs of the thing that he accomplished with an impact and historians are people too and it will be interesting to see if that affects his ratings. bill clinton we just talked about inhi 15th place. george w. bush 33rd. although first time we have him after he left office he was one point lower and president up one soso he's pretty close to the bottom ten

the national day of prayer was created in 1952 by congress, signed into law by president harry trumane then has signed the proclamation >> under my administration we are getting to a level where we will be breaking records with respect to the judiciary, which mean as lot to the people in this room because you treated very poorly [ applause ] over time you will see what happens. by the way you are seeing it more and more. you are seeing people prouder and prouder. it is happening >> president trump called for an end to violence and terrorism against people of all faiths. >>> well, for the first time in almost 20 years there will be a new by shop leading the catholic church in san jose. pope francis accepted the resignation of 73-year-old patrick mcgraw retiring and who will be replaced by a new bishop. he has been a defender of immigrant rights but angered many parishioners when he learned the diocese bought him a $2.3 million home for his retirement. the house has since been sold and he plans to live in a church rectory. >>> we have an update this morning on a story we told you about

think about david mccullough and harry truman and the impact that had on public perception of harry truman. okay, so now we're going to go to the 2017 survey which is the organizing principle for our book of collective interviews. what we did, we put them in order -- excuse me -- of how they fared in our survey. so let's look at the top five. as we mentioned in the -- sorry. one first. the modern presidents. let's see how they did. ronald reagan is the only one in 2017 that made it into the top ten. next up, george w. bush, 20th spot. it will be interesting when we do the next survey at the tend of the trump presidency whether or not george h.w. bush moves up at all. he's passed away. we had three days of celebration in this country of his presidency and reminders of the things that he accomplished. that has an impact because historians are people too, and it'll be interesting to see if it affects his ratings. billys clinton, we just talked about, in 15th place. george w. bush, 33rd. the first time we had that him, which was right after he left office, he was one point lower. we added anot

well, wasn't it harry truman who had in his office the motto "the buck stops here"?always stops in downing street, it must do. someone has to answer these climate change protesters' questions. "where is the government?" a question for all of us. who will lead? there has to be an opportunity for the people of this country to decide who they want to be in their government, how they want the government to run, what the long—term strategy is of that government. i think we need a general election. our politics problems won't disappear with a new tory leader. i'm not sure her departure changes the fundamentals of brexit. brexit is an utter mess, and it looks to me like the only way to resolve that mess is to put the issue back to the people. you cannot see power, you cannot touch power, but in this street you feel it profoundly when it has fallen away. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, westminster. laura kuenssberg there. there's been no shortage of speculation over recent months about the next likely tenant of number 10. mrs may's announcement today encouraged a much more open

well, wasn't it harry truman who had in his office the motto "the buck stops here"? buck always stops in downing street, it must do. someone has to answer these climate change protesters' questions. where is the government? a question for all of us. who will lead? there has to be another opportunity for the people of this country to decide who they want to be in their government, how they want the government to run, what the long—term strategy is of that government. i think we need a general election. our politics problems won't disappear with a new tory leader. i'm not sure her departure changes the fundamentals of brexit. brexit is an utter mess and it looks to me like the only way to resolve that mess is to put the issue back to the people. you cannot see power, you cannot touch power, but in this street, you feel it profoundly when it has fallen away. and laura's with me. having heard the prime minister here earlier, what did that statement really tell us about the kind of premiership that she has experienced? it is evidence of what her allies has had for a long

also, harry truman's claim that this would be a school of republican values and democracy in the united states. similarly, i wrote about anti-subversive laws in the united states or japan. the policymakers and bureaucrats that were working with the occupation authorities to draft these were looking at the anti-subversive laws like the mccarran act that would be -- that was being written in the united states. they were also looking at once written in australia. i want to take more fully about the concept of the national security state were -- or anti-communism that is crossing boundaries in this time period. to go back to the historical context, i don't know if i am contextualizing it where if i am much as iing get so deepen ouro understanding of this moment in the u.s.-japanese relationship. and push back on the idea that democracy did not matter in this relationship. this book traces and follow it all the way up to the 1960's and it looks at issues like the transition from world war ii cold war. he looks at the creation of the npr. he looks at the peace treaty. it also looks at how jap

wasn't it harry truman who had in his office the motto "the buck stops here"?k always stops in downing street, it must do. someone has to answer these protesters' question — where is the government? who will lead? there has to be another opportunity for the people of this country to decide who they want to be in their government, how they want the government to be run, what the long—term strategy of that government is. i think we need a general election. our politics' problems will not disappearjust with a new tory leader. i'm not sure that her departure changes the fundamentals of brexit, which is an utter mess, and it looks to me that the only way to resolve it is to put the issue back to the people. you cannot see power, you cannot touch power, but in this street you feel it profoundly, when it has fallen away. there has been speculation for months about who could replace theresa may as the conservative leader, ever since she confirmed she would stand down in an effort to get mps to accept her brexit deal. let's have a look at some of the main contenders. so

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harry truman fired the attorney general who fired the special prosecutor in the early 1950s but the investigation went on. the investigation like the proverbial show will go on. they didn't need to do what it did in 1978. to restore the authority within the constitutional structure of article ii now under the regulations of which bob mueller was appointed the attorney general makes the appointment and in this instance the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein made this appointment as the acting attorney general when jeff sessions recused himself. the other thing that i would say that is so huge right now at this very moment is the reporting requirement. i was obligated under the statute to send my findings to the congress of the united states. in effect i was an arm or a tool of the congress of the united states no longer. the regulations which have been in effect for 20 years and which bob mueller was reported and appointed in under which he has operated completely scaled back their reporting obligation and i have been saying in public arenas look at the law. the attorney general of the united

harry truman was faced with a real emergency there.and he could no longer supply the troops in the field with adequate ammunition and military equipment. and so what he did was assert the right of the commander in chief to disobey the explicit commands of congress. and the supreme court in a decision reaffirmed as recently as 2015 by the roberts court held no, the commander in chief cannot disobey the explicit laws of congress. so this is a crisis of the -- >> let me jump in here. i understand, you've established that it's a crisis of the american system. and i'm short on time here. i just want to ask you -- >> sure. >> so the law -- it appears that you're saying, obviously, that the law is on nadler's side and on nancy pelosi's side. and the -- >> correct. >> the conventional wisdom is that the president and his people know it, they're just doing this to buy time at the end of the day they're going to lose on the issue. >> look, this is going to move very quickly. it's going to be expedited. indeed by a tragic irony, it may well be th

. >> to be honest i would rather watch the american experience of harry truman. >> that says a lot. > a cry for help. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> it is 19 wins in a row for the reigning "jeopardy!" champ james holzhauer. >> i thank you for making an even bet. it helps my math. you now have $96,726 earned today and a new total of $1,426,330. >> he looks happy. >> the smile says, i crushed you. >> holzhauer is now tied for the third longest winning streak in show history. last night's final jeopardy clue was about a former capital halfway between paris and berlin. the answer was bonn. holzhauer was the only one with the correct answer. but one of the other contestants did something clever and said the answer is -- congratulations james >> well done. what he's done is impressive as half the feats in sports. this is bigger than what the bulls did with jordan. he's a mental athlete >> he is, for sure. >> the stakes raised considerably for attorney general william barr's senate testimony this morning. now that we know robert mueller objected to barr's spin on his findings, we'l

in 1952, president harry truman and the congress formally established this national day of prayer, and set aside each year for the american people to turn to god in prayer and meditation. ever since then, every president has issued a proclamation in honor of this great tradition and president donald trump continues that tradition today. [applause] as president trump said just two years ago in this rose garden, in his words, we are a nation of faith, and i can assure you at a time when religious belief is often marginalized and often ridiculed, in this white house, under this president, we believe in prayer. [applause] in fact, the president has made a practice of opening every cabinet meeting in prayer. in fact, he is at this moment in time one of only four presidents in american history who've issued multiple proclamations, calling the american people to prayer in a single year. we believe we always do well, to go to the lord in prayer. but it seems especially important these days. no one should ever fear for their safety in a house of worship in america or anywhere n the world. and y

well my grand pop used to say quote harry truman he would say harry give him hell.said no i'm not going to give him hell. give him the truth and let him think it's hell. >> martha: joe biden on the ground today in new hampshire continuing to dominate the 2020 field as politico puts it when biden announced everything changed and we have definitely seen that in the numbers so far. very early going here. as a result his opponents are reintroducing, resetting, some talking tougher on or pivoting on some of the issues. some aligning themselves with the likes of aoc. they are all hoping to get her endorsement. they have been! bling for it and others coming out and admitting they are not actually resonating with the voters and they want to change that. >> buttigieg which emphasizes the green new deal. >> nut context of saying let's get rid of all the bureaucracies. >> not the insurance companies? >> no. >> not going to give thoughts and prayers which to me is just [bleep]. >> martha: here now howie kurtz fox news media analyst. katie pavlich fox news contributor. richard g

. >> those words from harry truman. several veterans attended the nd ceremony a their names were read. a wreath laying ceremony was held to remember all the fallen. >>> it's tho fallen men and women who were honored in downtown d.c. today. an estimated quarter of a million people packed the streets. a lot of people ined early and so, too, did our mark segraves. he has more on the history of today's remembrance and the celebrities who turned out. >> reporter: a day to honor those men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country. memorial day started bace in 1800s just after the civil war. once known as decotion day. the annual parade here along constitution avenue has been a tradition inhe nation's capital for 15 years. cherry cheney got here early. >> we're a ilitarymily and i want to honor our military and ople that thers and p have done what they've done for our country. >> also on hand for today's parade, college football legend lou holtz who served in the aer army. holtz is honoring the sacrifices made

a tall cohosted by the harry truman presidential every a museum and the truman library institute on alice allison dunnigan - the first african american female white house correspondent, and senate and house of representatives press galleries member. panelists, including ms. dunnigan's granddaughter, discussed her life and legacy as journalist.ng >> greetings, ladies and gentlemen. i am the museum director. i appreciate you being here and to enjoy this program and celebrate this important legacy with us. we are in the legacy business. harry truman'ste legacy, we end up celebrating a lot of other legacies as well. i want to begin by thanking some folks. the truman library institute, of course. they are a nonprofit partner and we are indebted to them for all these great things we are able to do, for bringing this statute -- the statue of alice dunnigan truman library. we are here to celebrate the first african-american female journalist with white house press credentials. that was very significant during the truman administration. a nice like to introduce panel. we have three different speak

north korea's actions mattered back then just like they matter to every president going back to harry truman. they were after all what millions fought against and 33,000 americans died for. the president standing in the house chamber last year, it sure sounded like he understood that. now he seems to believe that he and kim are both just a pair of real estate tycoons or something and the north is just another business opportunity. >> it's located between russia and china on one side and south korea on the other, and it's all waterfront property. it's a great location as we used to say in the real estate business, and i think he sees that. >> yeah. he thinks kim jong-un views the future as just great, you know, lots to sell of waterfront property. so maybe it's the business the president sees like that, or perhaps it's just love. >> i was really being tough, and so was he. and we were going back and forth, and then we fell in love, okay? no, really. he wrote me beautiful letters, and they're great letters. we fell in love. >> i'm not even going to address that. look, i'm glad he has love in h

it was begun in 1950 by president harry truman who wanted communities to be more educated about the militaryrump tweeting out this picture saying today and every day, we must acknowledge and celebrate everyone who wears our nation's uniforms. new video now showing an electronic billboard in times square going up in flames. you can see it here. it happened earlier this afternoon. the new york city fire department containing that fire in less than an hour. the flames did not spread to any nearby buildings and nobody was hurt. and all electric aircraft could soon have you feeling like george jetson. take a look at this flying car. german startup announced thursday that its first test of the all-electric aircraft the five-seater has 36 electric powered engines we're told it can reach speeds of 180 miles an hour and the company hopes to have it flying in cities worldwide within the next decade and that's how fox reports on this saturday, may 18. i'm jon scott. thanks very much for joining us i'll be back here tomorrow night and we'll see you then. [national anthem] ♪ ♪ >>> sunday, may 19th. >> jo

>> what i make of it is harry truman's own line if you want a friend in washington, get a dog.y is the sound of the bus rolling over his long friendship with robert mueller. it's sad because that was one thing that created a lot of confidence in bill barr, in his nomination. not that there would be faverism, but there was this decades long personal relationship, so he would be less likely to pursue the president's vendettas, but he was dismissive. at least as it comes to his characterization of the report. the report is clear. bill barr seemed to be carrying the president's water. >> it's not just the after the fact stuff he's getting snitty about. it was also on substance. the fact he clearly was not happy mueller didn't reach a conclusion on obstruction and said he was surprised and also said he didn't reach a conclusion, saying it was the very purpose, the function he was carrying out. i wonder if it gets to as simple as that, barr doesn't think mueller did his job. >> i doubt that very much. there does seem to me, and if you hear from the president's attorneys, dismissivene

i guess i would take harry truman, he did such a great job if i'm going to lead this earth, good to haveed in making that transition. >> jay inslee sat in that chair and said washington state has the best pot, do you agree or disagree? >> no, i think we have more experience, so if you're actually looking at quality and not quantity, i think we eclipse their efforts. >> you like squash. what has squash the game taught you about how to excel in politics? >> it's relentless, and it's filled with strategy. >> favorite band? you know, right now it's the -- i think the lumineers, although nathaniel and the night sweats, two amazing colorado bands, and old crow madison show. don't get me started. we don't have enough time. >> we have time! curt vaughnigan, take a look, i'm going to play for you, your father has joked about this, your father is a friend and joking about who your real dad is. take a look. >> john, as you know, the man you've always believed to have been your father also named john hickenlooper was my brother in fraternity at cornell university in ithaca, new york. that quip was n

most recently we sent a harry s truman group north of the arctic circle to just do operations up there. this is one of the pictures from one of our escorts. while much has changed since 1991, it is still cold as north of the arctic circle in november. >> [ laughter ] as we were preparing yourself they had to open up books. we opened up all the old manuals and said whatever you do, don't forget the baseball bats right? there's nothing like a baseball bat to break off all of the ice and clear the superstructure. you can see people clearing the ice up here. when i gave a version of this talk every surface warfare officer in the room was like, you've got to be kidding me. that looks extremely cold. so anyway, it has been good to exercise the idea of dynamic force employment. we took a question today during the panel about the abraham lincoln st. group. so what's going on with that? what's going on with their strike group is exactly what you would want to happen for your naval forces. on a scheduled deployment, doing great operations with some of our high-end allies and partners there, and

i'll tell you what, this most recently we sent the harry s. truman strike group up north of the arctic circle. this is one of the pictures from one of our escorts. and as you can see here, while much has changed since 1991, it is still cold as held north of the arctic circle in november. so as we were preparing ourselves to get ready to go up there we had to open up books, it had been awhile. we opened up the old manuals and said listen, whatever you do don't forget the baseball bats, right? there is nothing like a baseball bat to smash the ice, clear the super structure. when i gave this talk, a version of it at the naval academy, every officer in the room was like you have to be kidding me, that looks extremely cold. so anyway, it has been good to exercise this idea of dynamic force employment. we took a question today during the panel about the abraham lincoln strike group. what is going on with that. what is going on with the abraham lincoln strike group is what you would want to happen for your navel forces. on a scheduled deployment, with our h

i must say, this is the opposite of harry truman's "the buck stocks here -- "the buck stops here."ulders. alix: they want him out as chairman. i don't know, whose fault is it? if it is not you, who is it? david: when you are in charge of an organization, either rightly or wrongly, you are responsible. it is your responsibility. that's what i believe. alix: he can say he's going to cut all they want, but there has to be something delivered that actually deals with growth. david: as i said, the beginning of his statement was all "we are german. germany needs us." it wasn't about great investment. alix: germany needs us. it is not all our fault. those are really great points. economists say a full-blown trade war may become the base case scenario, leading investors two -- leading investors to weigh what that could mean. >> there is a more pessimistic outlook on the tree discussions. the markets haven't sold off. >> my view is if you sell a rally, you take a view on whether this thing is going to happen or not. this is binary. >> on the equity side, another 5% to 10% would be easy if a

and in the capitol, there's a room on the first floor where harry truman and his posse were playing cards and drinking bourbon when the secret service came over to inform him that president roosevelt had died. i don't drink and i don't smoke. i'm a vegetarian. but as mayor of kansas city, we have a sunshine law so members of the city council had to be careful about going out to lunch together. because if four members of the council went out to lunch, they're in violation of the sunshine law. i'm not saying i oppose having sunshine. i am saying that it is a much more complicated issue than just making a declaration. i'm willing to do almost anything to change the trajectory of this national hostility. so i mean, how do you handle the fact that in spite of some times when we had hardly any transparency we got some of the biggest things in our history done? >> so three related thoughts and i'll be very brief. one is that, you know, that was a very different era. you know lyndon johnson also used to hand out bags of money on the floor. there are things that were like done at that time which a