holiday made a good point they've worked well, with the station and it's been a plus for harvey stricker bluegrass but for events on a shoe string this is a problem. we've been in discussions with united players also the number of police are arbitrary and inxhicht we want to put-down some lodge behind those procedures. i know that smaller events are forced to leave the city it's not tied into 10 b but 9 book fair that was held inside the fair building for at least 10 years has had to move to oakland because the recreation and parks are issuing recks. and i urge you to consider 10 b in terms of making that a reasonable and logistical application >> (calling names) and after that we're happy to take other members. >> i'm president of the harvey milk club. hard french is a promotion group that we produce in terms of attendees and budget relatively small community orientated events. every year we provide a signature event we're aiming to keep our prices low so people who don't have a lot of funds can get in and hopefully to grow ourselves to create bigger events. our first pride party we som